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  1. I agree, There sure are some haters here ready to stomp on anything. When I was a young kid, I saw a small ad in the back of Yacht, Racing & Cruising magazine in late 1976 and mailed in one of those cards to send me more info on the boat. The pamphlet showed up and had some photo's ( I think it was their very fist brochure), the water was flat, no wind and another photo promoting the interior full of cushions, a v-berth and a sink so you can go cruise with it; it looked way too plush for around the buoys or take it very seriously. It was called a J-24, yeah that one didn't work out ei
  2. Very sorry to hear this. I've known Bill since we were very young (approx 1980), growing up sailing first with his brother Tom who would look after Pendragon (3/4t) who was also an excellent sailor and then later on with Bill. He loved being outdoors and committed a significant large part of his life being on the water and helping others sail better. One thing about Bill, he loved sailing but he also really loved biking, on his days off you were guaranteed to see him on his bike. My condolences to Sue and to his extended family. RIP Bill, Sail on!
  3. It's called being out of phase. Quite surprised they stayed that way for so long and how many times as it was pretty obvious even on the first leg and they had several chances to correct it, LR would go to the correct favored side after the rounding but then not protect it and the frackers used it to there advantage, stayed in phase and it really showed as they approached the rounding. They also, I think they messed up on the start not closing the door more on the frackers when they could of.
  4. underperformer, Heading down out of the power band is simple 101 level stuff, it was more than just that.
  5. I seriously doubt the leeward runner was at max out, if you go look at the 10 to 12 second mark and look at the mainsails lower leech fluttering with the leeward running back pressed hard against the leech just above it. Either someone blew the mainsail way below the normal out or the runner was never released and not max out. Seeing that much flutter on the lower main leech generally means excessive loads on the sail. I believe this is what caused the next steps to happen. It's like what they say in aviation, a typical accident is usually caused by several incidents in a chain of events.
  6. Agree, I may not like how well the crew did on this last series of racing but you're talking about a guy/crewman who was on the boat during the crash, then immediately had to do the salvage and is now responsible for creating and coordinating an almost insurmountable come back while at the same time coordinate a world record rebuild project on a cutting edge America's Cup boat under the clock and pundits expect him to stop and give them some detailed lip service? Give the guy some space and let him do his job, we'll eventually find out what the deal is.
  7. ^ And I thought just having the caps on while posting was bad enough.
  8. With the leeward runner on, all bets are off and that will greatly effect everything that has to do with keeping direction & control. That load applied in those conditions will override all the other controls, looking at the video wont show you that load being applied. Imagine you're the Jolly Green Giant and you pressed your finger down on the leech/roach on the main while a boat is accelerating , what will the boat do? (we've all been there) Then add foils to the scenario, we then have a boat wanting to do a lift off while attempting a wind check. This was a classic and typical Oh F
  9. Actually, no way. When the leeward running back was still on tight, essentially the equivalent of having the main in tight going upwind with roach working, what does a boat want to do when it gets overpowered by a puff and main on hard? it really wants to round up hard, a boat going hard right, the skipper makes the classic correction with the rudder going hard left (not much else he can do, he didn't expect the runner to be on) which causes cavitation and a foiling rudder will lose control, down force and lift up further exasperating the situation. Thats why you see the boat yaw to the
  10. To be honest, it's not that simple and I would love to hear what G's were pulled when they impacted. That was a pretty dynamic impact the would be very difficult calculate and prepare for, that can only really be seen from the video from the helicopter, the yaw (side ways) while in the air and then when coming down the bow whipped down even harder, increasing the G forces. These boats can't be built for every scenario otherwise you'll have a total dog. You build it light, make it fast, respect it and then keep your fingers crossed and don't screw the pooch.
  11. First of all, It was terrible to see the accident and damage; I hope they can get it fixed very soon, back up and running well. If what you said is true, then that's not keeping a cool winning head, not sticking to all the the training they've done and racing procedures. The dialogue I was hearing was fairly vague and happening too late, and not giving enough time for crew or boat handling to keep up, the tactics showed this (not just that last rounding but also at the starts). They need to see much farther forward and have much earlier dialogue between themselves, help paint a clearer p
  12. Yup, Sure sounds like he did. We can rip on Barker all day long but he's only part of the cog (a broken one) and only part of the problem, posts about recent olympians having tons or dialogue, never giving up, being present, always observing and staying cool is very true and this is definitely not being observed on USA. Can't completely blame Barker for what's going on the boat. That's leadership and the higher up's who decided who was going to do what on the boat, who gets to be on the boat, crew layout and job roles and they are the ones to blame and maybe too late to change. The
  13. I wanna say modified Cal 20 with new keel?
  14. Whoops, my bad and you could be right. That delivery was a long time ago but it was Pyw. I do remember this one had the metal honeycomb boom siding.
  15. True that! Cant think of a worse delivery/pounding except maybe going north, off the coast of Oregon heading to Seattle; same shit, potential for a lot more nasty and a lot colder. There's never enough food. Always better to have a surfboard and hug the coast with a lot of time available to eat lobster and surf. But we've digressed from the OP
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