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  1. If the NYYC had the ability to build a team themselves, they would have done it at some point in the last 30 years. They've been slapping their burgee on a team somebody else put together since 87. They have been making fools of themselves since their "challenge" and any hope that there is a grand strategy at play is a fool's hope.
  2. Seemed like lots of boats with rudder issues this weekend. The black flag definitely seemed like a bit of a cumulative award. Maybe another boat doing the same thing just gets a penalty, but Phil has been doing that stuff all season and the penalties don't seem to be deterring him so the umpires saw an egregious example and decided to send a stronger message.
  3. Certainly Ernesto was the most to blame for the situation. Never meant to imply otherwise.
  4. Valencia was the best cup of the multi challenger era, barring perhaps 87. It was a massive success in virtually every category, had weeks of great racing, an extremely exciting match, and great TV viewership (and the license fees that come along with that). It was always going to be a money loser for Valencia unless they got multiple normal cup cycles out of it. You also have to figure in some portion of the revenue they generated from the F1 races they had as the experience and facilities they got from hosting the cup enabled them to win that bid as well. AC32 was a huge success b
  5. Didn't Kornreich essentially tell them to shut up and race and only come back afterwards if necessary?
  6. The AC50, the boat they had just won the cup in, was not a high performance foiling boat that they had lots of expertise in? The point is that TNZ created an event that the New Zealand economy wouldn't support even WITHOUT Covid. This scenario was always going to be the outcome if they didn't do something to bend the cost curve down and now they are acting like the victim when they are actually the architects of their own dilemma.
  7. Pretty good commentary. I think his point was less a critique of the boat itself, but pointing out that TNZ created the money dilemma they insist is forcing them to move the event. I think it's a fair point. TNZ has made no serious attempt to limit costs and now are crying poor. Maybe it was unavoidable, particularly with COVID, that NZ would be incapable of supporting a viable defense, but they don't appear to have made any attempt to use their power as trustee to make it the kind of event that the NZ economy could support in any circumstance.
  8. Hosting sporting events really never makes economic sense at the prices the organizers manage to get from cities, but a few places always believe in the dream. You also have to consider the case where a government knows the event is a bad bargain economically but just wants it for the prestige. Happens all the time in the gulf, China, Russia, etc.
  9. Agreed, but I think we have to have a realistic conversation about how we ended up with the AC75. It was not because anybody started with a blank piece of paper and thought it would be a great idea to have a sled with giant fucking foiling keels on moving arms. That's a Doug Lord fantasy. TNZ came off of AC36 with a huge lead on everyone else in foils and foil control systems, but they owed Bertelli and he was adamant about having a mono. So what's the compromise? Something that looks sort of like a monohull if you squint a bit, but spends all its time flying on widely set foils like a mu
  10. Isn't Core Builders still in Anacortes and doing most of the SailGP work?
  11. It strikes me as odd and potentially disingenuous that TNZ does not seem to have considered significant structural changes to the event that would make a defense on the kind of budget they can raise in New Zealand feasible. That's where it really becomes clear that the preservation of TNZ in it's current form is the real imperative driving Grant's decision-making, NOT the need to get offshore money in order to mount a reasonable defense.
  12. Well that's a sheep of a different color, now innit? Messing around with the boss's wife is one thing. Being the boss and messing around with one of your employee's girlfriends is a bit of a different proposition.
  13. And Grant is as big a cunt as any of those guys. How many of them had an affair with an employee's partner?
  14. Most of my exposure to Kiwi sailing fans has been on this forum, so I'm fully prepared to admit that it's a skewed sample. If you seriously dispute that there's a myopic tendency on the part of Kiwis to view TNZ as the "good guys" and a morally superior brand of sailing team to their competitors then we probably won't ever see eye to eye on this.
  15. Obviously it's an unknowable debate. I just tend to think that they've been operating with a similar level of self-interest dictating their actions pretty much all along and it so happened that their self-interest aligned with other priorities in a way that enabled them and their fans to believe in a fantasy version of events where they were the true and noble heroes. They were the only ones to not sign on to the grand bargain in Bermuda because it went against the traditions of the cup and evil Larry, rather than the fact that they were being bankrolled by Bertelli who hated the A
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