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  1. Hi all; I'm replacing the dead Danforth in my J/36 with a Fortress. The boat is four and a half hours away, so measuring the anchor is a problem. Can anyone tell me what size Fortress fits into the J/35 and J/36 anchor locker? I'm looking for the biggest practical pick. Cheers
  2. Sure, and unless they are being very well sailed they can become troublesome in the very light stuff (Asso 99s can look fast in comparison, and they are an ancient design) and fall over in the strong stuff as well. But much of that applies to a 75 foot version. No big mono can hold an equivalent multi so why even bother? Monos are great but they are just not as fast so let's concentrate on what they are good at and not what they are weak at.
  3. So where are the race results showing Q23 style foilers winning races and beating foiling cats? In fact, where are the race results showing Q23 style foilers consistently winning races ahead of fast sportsboats?
  4. Okay, it's a mono - but it's a mono of a type that most sailors still can't relate to and it would be much slower than a multi. It's also a bit doubtful if a new class should be modelled off one that is effectively almost dead; surely that says something about their appeal. The Libera A class is down to about three active boats I think, and last time I saw them there was a huge disparity in their performance.
  5. Thanks Chopper. Interesting. Thanks for the info..
  6. So how do those kitefoiler speeds compare to an AC50's speeds? If the foilers are hitting 40 knots then even with the foiling cats we were back to the same situation we had with surfcats and 12 Metres in the 1960s and '70s, when a cheap "beach craft" was faster than an AC boat. Obviously the speeds are utterly different, but back in the day many people felt that it was ludicrous that the AC boat was slower and they ignored that the two boats were completely different beasts. From some angles it seems as if we are back in the same situation but now it's the cat that is the bigger and slowe
  7. Cyclors were first used in the AC by Sweden with the 12 Metre Sverige. I seem to recall that Australia III used the first gennicker. The hula was just another example of a rule dodge or (normally short-lived) design innovation, to be ranked alongside the open cockpit in 12s (the UK), the bendy fibreglass topmast in 12s (UK), the Park Avenue boom and bendy boom (UK/US), the duralimun (sp) mast (USA), the multiple rating certificate (USA), the shark skin (USA), the canard foils (USA), the bulb keel (USA), the fin keel (USA), the bustle (USA) etc etc etc. Glass fibre is just one of
  8. How often since the 1850s has the AC used something no one else thought of?
  9. Anyway, I won't read this thread any more because I want to stop the hijack that TC and other multi fans started a couple of pages back.
  10. Other mono races have existed for 170 years. That hasn't changed. Tornadoes are now slower than N20FCS, little N17s and tiny kitefoilers. Does that mean that they bore you? If Tornadoes don't bore a Tornado sailor then why should monos bore mono sailors? Yes, four out of 35 winners were the fastest of the time, You could add Reliance and a few more that were marginally quicker than other boats in normal inshore conditions. That means that about 25 out of 35 winners or more were NOT the fastest boats of the time at all or by a significant margin. That means that anyone trying to claim tha
  11. Yeah, sorry, some people who have never caught on to the bleeding obvious started complaining that foiling monos were not in the spirit of the Cup 70 posts back and it went on from there. It could be highly relevant, though, if PB and GD sat down and got someone to work out how to create a boat that followed the tradition of the AC. Arguably if they did that they wouldn't go for a radical full foiler, but something more like a fixed-keel WOXI or Comanche with DSS. So that's one guess at what a foiling mono could look like.
  12. It's relevant to AC 36 because some people keep on claiming that the AC has always been about having the fastest possible boat within the Deed. The fact that they required the Js to be tough hulls with good accommodation is just one more of many pieces of evidence that proves it's not true. If we're going to have a boat for AC 36 that follows the tradition of the Cup it would be very different from the ones in AC 33, 34 and 35.
  13. Surfsailor; With respect, in this case I'll have to disagree with you and agree with Vanderbilt, who owned and ran the boats. He said that the accommodation that had to go in after the rule change weighed seven tons, or about 5% of the displacement of Enterprise. The more substantial mast that was required by the new rules was only 1/10th as much. At that level of competition, adding 6.5% to the total displacement is enough to destroy a boat's chance. That's why Enterprise was scrapped. So let's look at the challenges in the 1900s to see what men like Vanderbilt were doing. We get Re
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