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  1. The Keel is back on!  Entire write up on the progress here in my blog - https://ballardsailor.wordpress.com/2020/08/19/the-keels-on/

    Basically has new bolts welded on, large washers on the bolts this time as didn't have any prior and the new lifting eye is getting built.  

    While waiting I shaped and varnished new floorboards and acquired a used outboard with controls that needed a little tinkering and asked the yard to take care of some soft core in the deck at the bow - leaking pushpit bolts is the suspect. 

    a bunch of pictures and descriptions on at the blog article - https://ballardsailor.wordpress.com/2020/08/19/the-keels-on/

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  2. On 7/31/2020 at 6:40 PM, See Level said:

    Keel bolts were probably attached to a steel plate mold top for support and accurate spacing.

    Whether there's a welded grid or just spaced nuts on all thread...

    How are they doing the new ones, horizontal holes for nut access?

    The corrosion was inside the sump area where the steel lifting eye attachment was so they are cutting off the bolts where the metal is good and welding on new allthread.

  3. On 7/29/2020 at 10:11 PM, AnotherSailor said:

    Is that an imbedded nut? What did you replace?

    That is what they found, this is a picture before replacement.  I had them replace the keel bolts with new.  Does seem like an odd installation, but who knows what else is in there.

  4. 1 hour ago, AnotherSailor said:

    Seems like you made the right decision to replace those! Did you cut the ones in the back or were there only 8? 

    If you don't mind, I would be interested to hear (and see) how you replace them. 

    That weathered keel is certainly a piece of art!

    Only those 8.   It's too narrow any further back to set a bolt in the lead.  Interestingly the seam wasn't cracked in the least.  It was holding on great.

    The plan is to cut the bolts down to good metal and weld on new allthread.  We've done this on other big boats before that had corrosion only at sump level but good bolts underneath.  

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  5. On 7/13/2020 at 6:17 PM, msvphoto said:


    Here is a pic of her sister, Wildflower (#3) on O Dock in Santa Cruz. We have owned her since 1996. #1 is still here in Santa Cruz also.

    #1 and #3 were next to each other on U Dock in Santa Cruz harbor when we bought her and the dock sign was changed to "Un Dock." 

    Looking forwards to watching your progress. I like the longer cockpit on #2 a lot. 

    Happy to hear you're saving her. 


    I'm sure we will want to get the boat down to Cali sometime for some fun.  Maybe a ditch run or ???

    I notice you still use the forward lowers, does it really need them?

  6. On 7/14/2020 at 3:21 PM, Pro looper said:

    Hey Ballard, Mario from Santa Cruz you know the one:P stoked for you guys I know you will do a good job with your  new ride

    after what you did with UFF DA  I sailed plenty of miles on Special Ed back in the day W/the boys fun ride for sure. 


    ps. bummed that the PCC's didn't happen so you guys could make your annual migration to the place that both boats 

    were built


    Hey Mario!  Hope all is well with you.  Still wondering what we were thinking but she should be a fun boat and seems to deserve being reborn.  She's at the boat spa (CSR) now to get the keel pulled, bolts fixed and bottom done.  One of the yard owners there has fallen for her I'm told.  

  7. 2 hours ago, JimBowie said:

    I dont care what Scooter calls a "SCOTW" I call your wife Sailing Chick of the Life.  What a jewel she is.  Keeper.

    I lucked out on the bar stool shuffle for sure.

  8. 1 hour ago, See Level said:

    Congratulations, great light air boat 

    You should have some good competition if Bart ever gets my old one done.

    What's Bart (Hood River Bart?) working on now?

  9. Seems like this deserves a post here since it's where the story started...

    Re-posting this story (6 Feet More) from my blog - you can find a ton more pictures there of both the boat and the trip.

    May 21st, 2020 I get this message on Sailing Anarchy:

    Hi! I know you've brought several Moore24s back to the west coast.  Do you think there would be interest in getting this boat back closer to home?


    It's the prototype of what would become the Wilderness 30.  Bought it from one of the guys who built it in Santa Cruz (Actually lived on it in the upper harbor!)  Story goes like this:

    He and several guys working for Moore wanted a larger Moore 24, took the lines of the 24 and blew it up to 30 ft.  Ron Moore said " Don't call it a Moore30 'cuz I'm gonna build a Moore 30."  George Olson helped them with the appendages but said Don't call it an Olson 30 'cuz I'm gonna build a Olson 30."    So they called it an UN-30 (after the Un-Cola ads for 7-Up), built three of them and later sold the mold to Wilderness, who modified it, put on a doghouse and gussied the interior.  Anyway, she's followed me from Alameda to San Diego to Jacksonville to Lake Superior.  Probably looking for a new home relatively cheaply (need to speak with partner.)  Think there might be any interest? Dave

    (all the photos I was sent sent can be found at my blog - 6 feet Moore)

    Dave and I went back and forth through emails and phone calls a bit before I decided to get ahold of Ron Moore and learn the real scoop from the Godfather.  As always Ron was happy to talk boats and even happier with the trip down memory lane this boat question caused.

    Turns out there was a guy named Bruce Clayton that was working with Ron and Jon back in the 70’s who took a gazillion measurements of the Moore 24 mold (they had no drawings remember) and took it to a marine architect to have it scaled up to 30’.  They smoothed out the sheer where the freeboard had been raised on the Moore and built three boats.  Pyrza that we have here is #2 and the first owner wanted a queen sized bed under the cockpit with some headroom for romping around and such so it has a shallow open cockpit.

    The Godfather had nothing but good things to say about how the boat sailed – reminded me there was going to be mushy core in the deck after 42 years and then said “You two are family now.”  He was so happy we were working together to get an old Santa Cruz boat back to the West Coast and fixed up. How do I not go get the boat now?

    A month goes by, Covid19 cabin fever sets in and my wife has a bad day at work.  I make her a couple cocktails and low and behold she looks at me and says “Let’s go get that boat!  Where is it?”  Afton, Minnesota, sitting on a farm.  Isn’t that where every old trailer-able boat is sitting in Minnesota?

    Turns out the boat is now owned by Dave’s friend Nate who had brought it north after it sat under a bridge in Florida too long.  Nate used her on Lake Superior but as life changed he spent more time on his Ultimate 20 as it’s easier to ramp launch and get out sailing in all the different places there.  Makes sense.  So the UN sat on the farm for 2’ish years after a deck refit was begun before we were called in.

    1676 miles east of Seattle – we hit the road June 22.  80 miles per hour 2.5 days east, 14 to 15 mpg and gas pushing $2 per gallon.  We stopped for the night at Elks lodges after long days of driving and slept in our van (2004 Chevy 3500 4x4 Roadtrek conversion van), both were closed as we arrived so late but it’s nice to have a quiet place to call home and not deal with the noise of a rest area (Members only, ask me about membership).


    Anyway, we arrive at the boat and there’s no doubt she’s a big Moore 24 hull shape with a doghouse that reminds me of a Henderson 30 bubble.  She’s rough and definitely in need of some love all around.  We meet Nate, look her over inside and out and I look at my wife and say, it’s gonna need about $20k to get going again, you in?  To my surprise she smiled and said yes!


    4 hours of packing the boat, stripping the mast, tying her down, etc, while getting stung by ground hornets and sweating our asses off in the heat and humidity of the Midwest that us left coasters aren’t used to, we hit the road for a 4 hour drive back to the Elks lodge we left that morning.  One change though after the hot sweaty day – we got a cheap hotel room so we could shower before visiting the lodge for dinner while it was open.  Alexandria #1685 you were super hospitable to us tired travelers, thank you.

    1676 miles, 8.5 mpg, 3 days later and two more Elks Lodge’s (Coure D’Alene you were amazing) we made it back to Shilshole Marina.


    The trip was a hot one, a long one, but a fun one. I found myself reminiscing while driving across North Dakota about how we used to crank the heater and open the windows on the old trucks when hauling horses. Sometimes even stopping to throw buckets of water in the radiator to cool things down.  92 degrees out and pulling a good 20 miles an hour in 1st gear going over the divide my wife asks why there is heat coming out the vents – I suggested she roll the windows down as the gauge moved towards 250…


    Once home we’ve cleaned her out of everything and got a good look.  Some minor tabbing issues, broken keel bolt under the hoisting eye, bottom needs to be done, bad core from the bow back about 2’ and some cracked windows.  The running rigging needs to be replaced but most of the standing rigging looks ok.  She’ll need a lot of new deck gear but fortunately for us Nate had removed most of it, filled the holes with epoxy and redone the non-skid.


    I dropped her off at CSR Marine July 9th to deal with the keel bolts and possibly a bottom job, otherwise I’ll get her over to Henderson Boatworks in August sometime.  We hope to have her out sailing come fall and slowly turn her into our performance cruiser with the Moore as our race boat.  Jennifer’s already decided she’ll be called 6 feet Moore…  More to come!

    (full gallery of photos can be found at my blog article - 6 feet Moore)


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  10. 2 hours ago, perioecus said:

    This one at least has cleats in close proximity to its bow, though I think I see a separate roller on the pulpit.

    too funny - I just gained stewardship of an old boat and one of the first things I'm going to do is get rid of the cleats!

  11. This is rich stuff.  In the past few years the tax man up in B.C. has gotten a little more stringent on "possession" and getting their tax money when possession is made in their province, understandable.  As well, the US Customs has gotten a bit more strict about proper clearance paperwork.  To work with these two things we put our deal through a customs broker who takes care of organizing all the clearance paperwork and schedule - this is generally at the buyers expense.  We put a clause in the contract that the boat will be delivered to a US port of entry.  No other specifics are necessary.  The listing broker, the seller or a hired captain can do it to avoid the possession issue.  I've gone and done it myself as the selling broker, just costs transportation and $19 at the border for me to do it for the owner.  I've also had listing brokers go above and beyond and help the buyer deliver the boat all the way to Seattle after clearing customs. All this is to avoid the B.C. sales tax on the buyer and only pay the Washington State sales tax.  really nothing more than that than I'm aware of.

    As someone mentioned here - if a buyers agent had been involved the situation would probably have been different.  Are there slimy salesmen out there?  Obviously there is and it's the same in any sales job known to man, there are bad ones.  Was there a bad broker here - I've no idea, but I'd guess that there was not.

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  12. Sail Northwest, your northwest J/Boat dealer, invites you to join us for the 2nd year of the comeback of the original J/FEST.  For 26 years, we produced some of the best racing and after race socializing available on the planet.  New this year – Corinthian Yacht Club of Seattle will be taking over management of the Regatta for 2019!


    This is a two-day regatta  and is open to all J/Boats owners and crew.    Starts will be provided for ONE DESIGN, PHRF AND CRUISING classes.  The on the water activities are hosted by Sail Northwest and Corinthian Yacht Club of Seattle.  Shoreside activities will be at the CYC Seattle Shilshole clubhouse Saturday and Sunday.

    Registration is open and are coming in quickly - 5 J/80's and 1 J/97e registered in the first week of registration.  Find out more information here - https://sailnorthwest.com/j-fest/

  13. after viewing the boat and talking with the designer my advice would be aluminum rig as carbon weighs almost the same and AG plus makes a good spar for the boat.  Single rudder with standard J/Boat keel (lower center of gravity and lighter than IRC keel).  tiller steering for feel and cockpit space.  water ballast to assist crew weight on the rail. 

    With twin rudders you'll need to sail it powered enough to get that high side rudder out of the water so why have the water ballast? If you sail it flat it'll have the drag of two rudders won't it?

  14. We've had her in the water a month and have done a couple non-race demos. We are taking different people on the races though, 3 core and 3 rotating for demo spots.

  15. A great shot of our J/88 demo boat just after the start of last weekends Three Tree Point race. She's on her way in beautiful spring conditions on a 15 mile upwind beat to the weather mark followed by a rippin' tight reach home with puffs zooming the boat up over 16 knots at times. Our J/88 finished 2nd in class and 2nd overall in a 65 boat fleet!

    She's sitting at our docks ready for a demo ride. Contact us at Sail Northwest to schedule a sail.

    See more of Jan Anderson's pictures at janpix.smugmug.com



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