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  1. The change in elapsed times were about equal so Comanche was very slow between the original and the changed finishing line. With double the rating it got a huge benefit for taking that last leg out.
  2. Even Sunrise finished on 26th thus a day before the course was shortened. Surely a competitor needs to know where the finishing line is before he crosses it. And seems very odd to shorten the course after boats have finished. Although RRS doesn't really say you shouldn't. Of course it is necessary to allow safe course also for the smaller boats finishing later. No easy solution. Will Sunrise get redress?
  3. YB still shows Sunrise ahead. Sunrise elapsed 3d 1 h 53m 19s and Comanche 1d 16h 18 m 25 s. 18 min win to Sunrise in corrected. So both have about 1.5 h faster time in the current results. Was finishing line in a different position? How does YB get the elapsed times?
  4. Now results show Sunrise as second to Comanche OA. And Sunrise has made two requests for redress (rules 32 and 28) and a protest against Comanche (28). What is going on? Was time added to Sunrise's elapsed time or how were the corrected times changed in favor of Comanche? Was the course shortened (redress for rule 32)?
  5. Well I disagree with almost all of that. Yes it might have been according to the plan TR made. They didn't need to win the start, they were happy to tack and use their speed. Maybe they thought right side was favored. TR was about 10 m behind at the start with minimal gap to windward. It would have been easy for LR to smoke them off. TR didn't have the option to continue on starboard, if they wanted to be in front at the first cross. I think LR was very happy with their start. They probably started to worry when TR tacked right away when they still had good speed. Note how LR was fas
  6. Would you say that, if TR had been behind at the first cross? Two separate things winning the start and getting an advantage from a split after the start. The latter being mostly boat speed. LR started where they wanted in the situation. In the leebow of TR and not letting TR to start with a gap to leeward.
  7. No. Jimmy said RC end is favored. Thus they wanted to start near the right end of the line. They didn't say nor do anyting that implied they had any plans on making the extra tack TR did. You loose 50 m or so in a tack. You don't want to start on a windward side of the other boat unless there is a clear gap and it's still risky since you need to let the other boat tack at the boundary. Previous day LR was just barely able to leebow TR at the boundary tack. This is especially true for LR, since TR needs to sail lower and then has better VMG. LR started in a good position regarding wer
  8. Yes that was a good move and over all TR sailed a better match race than in their previous race wins. Probably they didn't need to and they just wanted to show they can do it as well.
  9. It's almost impossible to stop the other boat from tacking at the start. LR was leading accross the line and had a good leebow situation. They could have tacked, at least when TR tacked. LR didn't win the start by a big marging. That would have been e.g shutting TR from getting to the line. But they still won it. Then TR was faster or got better wind from right. TR had the luxury not needing to win the start. They just needed a free line and the boat does the rest. It was a smart move for them, but most likely TR would have won the first cross with a bigger margin, if the plac
  10. What a spoiler! I have been watching the races on YT when I wake up. Thus srarting from about three hours after real time. This time it was still live showing the celebration before I saw the race. Well not much to see in the race, which was over soon after the start although LR won the start. Nice to see TR in a more covering mode. Congratulations to NZ!
  11. They really couldn't once they decided to protect the left side. Not that much lead, TR on starboard and they were too far away. Covering at that point would have meant two tacks in row and big loss. Most likely they couldn't have leebowed TR on layline. So another tack in order to cover would have been a very likely pass given for TR. They thought left was favored and stick to that. Sure they know the local geography well enough. TR went the left side on the first beat and got really close to LR and they rounded the same time.
  12. No. If LR had wanted the right side at the top of the beat they could have taken it. All they needed to do was not to tack before the layline. Then TR would have to take the left side or follow LR with an extra tack and bad air at the layline. It was totally in LR's control which side LR took and which side they like to force TR to take. They just thought left side was better. It doesn't really matter what TR thought, since they were not in a position to make their own choice.
  13. Sure they could and without any hesitation. LR gave them no other options.
  14. I'd say TR has a 3-5% speed edge now. Lile sailing X-332 against X-362.
  15. Well then they were really lucky that LR allowed them to take their preferred side. It would have been easy for LR not to allow that. LR really gave them no options there but tack or loose a lot.
  16. They can't close both options from TR with the same move. They can force TR to tack or let them cross behind. For the latter they can tack and take a loose cover or continue to right. Loose cover tack was marginal. TR might have been fast enough to pass. Now they chose to protect the left side. TR had no options going left unless they wanted to sit in bad air all the way to the mark and then be forced to take the same mark or do an extra tack. That would have caused TR to be maybe 15 s behind at the mark.
  17. Only when LR was free to choose the side they wanted and TR tried its luck on the other side. LR choose the better side correctly except once.
  18. They have clearly changed the boat to be faster upwind (or LR have downwind). Last days the bigger difference has been upwind and that has allowed TR to bounce back when LR hit them and pass when they get a slightest chance. It's not several knots, but probably 200 m on a beat, which turns to 1 km when TR wins the start. Look how fast TR came back, when LR forced them to a bad leeward rounding and got a 200 m lead. And look how fast they spread the distance when they managed to pass. Also the start was even and TR manage to get 20 m lead before the boundary. That was almost enou
  19. Bruni said something like it feels like trying to drown a fish by pushing it under water.
  20. That's what I asked few hours ago. The best move would have been to tack into a position where TR could not tack. But did they have enough lead for that? Bruni commented on that and said they almost lost the lead when they did that earlier. It's not easy against a faster boat. I think it was a clear risk to take left side due to loosing starboard advantage on the next cross. But TR was so close that they needed to get the better side. Even side would not be enough to keep TR behind, especially on starboard. LR really needs to find a way to force TR close to boundary making a lot of t
  21. They didn't have room to jibe while keeping clear on port. That's what would have happened the day before, if Pete hadn't made the jibe where they dropped off the foils. Today Pete was more patient and just stayed in bad air and waited for a change, which he got. Could LR made the last tack on the lead a bit higher, so that TR can't tack? So not giving bad air, but just preventing them from getting leverage. Then they would have leebowed them at the boundary. Or was their lead too marginal for that? When they tacked in front, they gave TR starboard edge and two rather long tacks to get c
  22. It's a beauty and still has better high mode and maneuverability than TR. It was lovely how they smoked TR off on the first port tack. And TR couldn't smoke them off later in a similar situation on STB. But clearly lacks VMG. Also seems to be more in trouble at the very light end.
  23. LR should have won more races during the first three days. They really missed it there. They weren't showing the starting skills they show now and showed against INEOS. Then they had easier job keeping TR behind once in the lead.
  24. Unfortunately I don't see it coming. 2013 there was a very clear speed edge for Oracle. Suddenly they had far superior flight control. Now TR has the speed edge. LR is sailing better than TR, but TR is fast enough to catch up after a mistake by them or a good move by LR. And once they get a bit of lead LR has no chance to get close. Now we saw a even start. LR had a better position, but TR almost had enough speed edge to take the lead. Boats other way around TR would have rolled LR. You can say LR made a mistake. But TR was so close with their speed that at every cross
  25. Looking at the Virtual Eye it seems there was about 7 knots when LR dropped. It took almost 9 knots for TR to get up. LR reached twice about 16 knots before TR rounded the windward mark. When they got up it was just a bit over 7 knots and they got up at about 17 knots. So they were really close while still leading. It would have been an interesting race, had LR got up before TR caught them.
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