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  1. It a LONG day or day and night to get arond the island.  My crew last time was SO drunk from the night before, so I was all by myself.    Disgusting.  yes reef a new-to-you fast and fairly light boat.   And no short races firt?  Bad idea.


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  2. You might want to get an actual Hobie cat sailor to look at what you are doing.  Its amazing what experience does for these simple problems. BTW: if you seal the rivets all over this mast with silicone glue or 4200 sealant, the boat will not turtle when you capsize.  Having your mast fill with water means it cannot be righted by 2 people as usual.  Also insspect the connectors- Stainless steel pins and good ringy-dingies.  The rudders will probably not lock down properly, due to their rudder cams being worn or broken: obtain new rudder cam pins that screw together, so as to replace them easily.  I invented and sold these pins, later stolen by Murrays for the last 40 years.


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  3. As WayneMarlow states, all A-class cats weigh 75 kilos, and are actually pretty damn tough. See that <- thumbnail of my 1971 woodie A-cat flying with surface-piercing hydrofoils on it.   I have sailed it without foils in the 40 mile Palatka-Jacksonville Mug Race in the St. Johns River with a smallish chute many times.... because the wind quits,  then comes back on your stern after 4 hours---- I've finished 4th once, 6th a bunch of times vs all kinds of other bigger cats up to 30 ft.  Every time I have to lift an A-cat, my back says- "Thank you very much!"    And you run away from the nasty big HEAVY fiberglass cats to weather anyway.   8^)   25 pound CF mast---did that go "DING" for you yet?   

  4. With your C-boards, SamC99us is being straight with you needing a deck sweeper, but you are some work away from being at the front of the fleet.  Race to learn right now what is wrong/needs adjustment etc.  There are a lot of ETCs.  Mast Over-rotation isn't really needed anymore.  

  5. I loved the 3-fleet 16 competition racing (A,B,C) back in the day.  Led to big biceps! This was way before modern, dramatically thickness-reduced mainsheet tapered lines, which really help mainsheet work in other hi-speed classes (A-class/ foilers).   


  6. OK-- just put the correct hydrofoils on it.  Done.  The Hobie monocat was just WAY too heavy, fiberglass.   IF CARBON HAD BEEN AVAILABLE? .......The new UFO would be longer.  Ask Steve. who designed the new UFO.  It would probably fly as well as my Cal Fuller wooden A-cat flying on SP foils in 2001.  See my thumbnail????



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  7. The Mug Race is tomorrow- the 38 mile drag race from (almost) Palatka to Jacksonville, and Bill will be there in spirit.  How many times did I bust my butt to get far enough ahead of the RC30 to stay there to JAX with my chute up....uuuhh.  Never happened.   Bill & Eric would appear in little blotches, White & Green triangles against the sky, tacking the big cat thru the fleet of baby cats, then ease on by to disappear to weather, many times.   Chris Cordes stayed ahead of them all the way few years ago on his tiny little stock A-cat in a drifter for the Mug!  It was a LONG quiet afternoon watching them drift to weather!   Then Bill decided to run a "clinic" for the 3 RC cats only, the next day out of the Rudder Club, and , happily, I was selected to sail with him.  SO it's a clinic....which about 5 minutes later it turned into a drag race trying to run over the other 2 boats.  It was Great fun!  I asked Bill if his main needed a touch more downhaul to weather, then he grabbed the mainsheet, put some heft into it....POW the main split.  A fun day.   Fair winds Bill--- that would be 18 knots of wind on a beam reach forever..... 

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  8. The I14 looks way too heavy and clumsy.  What a horrible bitch of a time righting the damn thing!  A  Hobie 14 does not stay stuck on its side like this thing.  How much does it weigh?  Now- if the whole thing was carbon it might be worthwhile fooling with.  Its like the girl single-handing/righting that Weta way offshore in New Zealand- having to flood and sink the outrigger to right the boat! Sheesh.  Even bungeeing a 12 foot carbon monkey pole under the cat to rig out then right it works great in 2 minutes with 125 pound skipper----better than any of these horrid schemes you folks are using.  A-class cats are righted and back in the race in a minute....well maybe 2 minutes.  I am thinking of the Mug Race- singlehanding my woodie A-cat (see thumbnail) , crashed 4 times (once was the damn helicopter) while jibing with the chute up and still finished 6th.   


  9. On 3/9/2019 at 12:13 PM, bacq2bacq said:

    Some more sweet (+sour?) history, thanks dacarls.  Never underestimate the self-interested efforts of an entrenched status quorum to screw things up for everyone else.  Feel free to generalize on that thought...

    Haha!  EXACTLY!  LMAO.


    Here are thumbnail pix of Cheetalope (Catnip wooden A-cat), Jackalope (Hobie 16) and Kangalope (Hobie18) flying on Lake Santa Fe, Florida.  They never pitchpoled & never capsized.  If you flew out of the water, the boat would come down, reattach, rise up and away you go again.  Not really fast going hard upwind on foils but still above a beam reach,  beam reach all day long, and downwind was fast and fun.  






  10. On 2/11/2019 at 11:27 AM, bacq2bacq said:

    @blunted, having first got into SA to track you and Fredo dueling with SHC and Cogito in Toronto what now seems like eons ago, I just gotta say: it is this kind of post that keeps me coming back.  Been there, done that, and here's the story.   (But Brexit?  On SA?  WTF indeed)

    "Looking for some interesting reading?": I have to recommend Dave Keiper's "Hydrofoil Voyager: WILLIWAW" if you can find a copy. 

    Keiper was first guy to really cruise foils.  Blunted, Killing still has my copy.  I hope.  Link to vid:


    Like MONITOR before him, Keiper used ladders, but then they didn't have the carbon we have today.  Gotta love the videos of Keiper sizzling across SF Bay... in the 70s... no flaps or moving parts for stability and dynamic AoA, just ladders.  At least ladders have decent inherent negative-feedback with less risk of total cavitation like that of angled surface-piercing foils, like, say Hydroptere.

    cheers, ben

    PS: I guess I am showing my age a bit, but FWIW Tom Speer did some thinking about foiling and cruising not being mutually exclusive: http://www.basiliscus.com/CSYSpaper.pdf 
    One can find a lot worse people to read than Tom Speer on aero/hydrodynamics. 

    PPS: I have to get down south where the water isn't all frozen pretty damn soon or I'll go nuts.  Or get a DN.  Must... stop... wasting time on SA...

    This is a note about my participation with Dave Keiper in his last foiling experience on this planet.  Keiper brought a Hobie18 to my home in Florida 20 years ago with this aluminum foil set.  A long story: I fixed these foils by filing the hell out of them,  because the sharp leading edges on his 008 struts split the water at speed, and his ClarkY lifters were incredibly draggy.  My conclusion was this foil set was too small for the Hobie 18: it would lift onto foils then crash, in a 7 second cycle.  Dave shipped cut foil sections of the same material but 10% larger, then, sadly departed the next day for a higher purpose.  So I put them all together after filing the crap out of them (as before), and they worked pretty well on the Hobie18.  The smaller set went onto my Hobie16, where it wasn't too bad, at least Sam Bradfield thought it worked pretty well at a big Hobie Regatta.  Then I dramatically reduced the boat weight by utilizing my wooden A-class cat, as shown above, adapting the original small foil set.  It worked well enough for me to take it to an A-cat winter regatta at RIck White's place in S. Florida at Key Largo, 2001.  After the races were over, I attached this foil set and went foiling around a small part of the bay within sight of Rick's dock and the other racers, all proud owners of new fiberglass A-cats.  Then apparently a critical meeting was called on-shore, and instantly, hydrofoiling for A-class was declared illegal.   AND unwanted in the USA.  This is before carbon fiber, a creative sailer might note.  

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  11. On 2/4/2019 at 10:21 PM, Suilven said:

    SailMoore1, thanks.  A used Laser might be the ticket.

    I acquired 4 Lasers 2 years ago (to add hydrofoils also teach sailing to newbies & kid relatives). 2 were free, $23, and $60 for the worst one from a yacht club. After learning Laser epoxy repair :D, I found that stock class-legal rigging is really crap. Changed to old Hobie blocks & light modern lines, bought cheap class-illegal sails with actual shape to foil with.  But the kids learned just fine.  Wet suit is absolutely required for cold water.  

  12. On 1/17/2019 at 10:03 PM, Dave Clark said:

    My dad stuffed one of these in the container coming back from the 1996 Little America's cup in Macrae and then instantly upgraded it with a big A-sail and cut down IC mainsail and trap. Total blast for me to screw around is as a kid. I'm pumped to see that the configuration has come to the same point in the class. It's a sweet half pint skiff for half pint sailors. From a composites perspective they're also childs play to build. It's a pity we were too conservative to adopt them on something similar in the states back when they going through their first round of growth in Australia.


    Damnable Opti people.  Mean trick on the kids. Stock Laser people too.  This IS the 21st Century for all of us.  

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  13. On 5/4/2018 at 4:35 PM, Champlain Sailor said:

    I like the bungees and spring clamp ideas.  Super simple, and simple is good.  They just need to hold the blade for a few minutes, with minimal load.   I'll try them this weekend.  In time, I'm sure Dave will have a more elegant solution.   I have a question into Fulcrum and have not heard back yet on the proper use of the main foil hold down pin and retention bracket.  I was surprised to see that the upper plates of the pin bracket are slotted on one end, so they can swing out when not under load.  I thought that once the strut was lowered, the pin would slide through one bracket, through the hold in the strut, then through the bracket on the other side.  I could only get the pin through the bracket, the strut, and just start on the 2nd bracket.  It was not a particularly secure hold down.  I've seen some internet traffic recommending that the hold in the strut be enlarged.  I'd rather not drill it out unless I have to (can't undrill it).   Since I'm not sure why the top part of the brackets are 'gated', I suspect there is more to this assembly than I am seeing.  Any experienced UFO pilots have some advice?



    Can you sharpen your pin? Smaller diameter- get it in, then push it in to the correct diameter.. 

  14. Yes this was Ben Hall's wing, 2012. I thought it looked heavy, and rather thick-looking. Racing showed no advantage- it was draggy thus mid fleet. Nowadays we see the accomplished foilers blast off from the weather mark, but this wingmast did not show sudden coherent, manageable power on some leg or direction. It was 10% chord maybe 12%, but we are used to seeing half an airfoil when looking up at A-cat rigs. Randy Smyth was not much impressed.

    And I watched Randy trying to adjust his sloop rigged A-cat there at Islamorada too. Randy's mast was maybe too bendy fore and aft, so the little standoff sprit on the mast's leading edge (to hold his jib out in front of the mast) did not work properly, and the slot would close off. Again there was no particular advantage, expected while watching RS race-- no blinding speed on some leg. It just didn't happen, not unexpected since the straight-board and straight rudder experts were there in force and tuned to their max potential.

  15. Interesting. So the Flying Phantom (FP) is the one that recently broke a hull in Texas. Is this correct?

    Is this the same one that went over backwards last spring off the beach in the Atlantic 300 race and broke its mast in an onshore wind? While in 3rd place if I recall.


    It is tough to have to come into the surfline with a FP, turn into the wind, then have your crew hold the boat until beach wheels can get to you. If it is too deep, the crew is floating in waves, and you are in big trouble. If it is too shallow, the uptip foils might hit bottom and be damaged. I think these non-retractable rigs need a good anchor set 50 meters yards offshore with a bouyed line to avoid such wrecks.


    Signed, an old surfer who has never turned over a cat in the surf. Yet.

  16. I am very likely clouded, but seems to me last year or year before, in a Chi/Mackinaw or CA race, a boat with "wings" capsized and a crewman perished, so the design was banned...not being catty here, it stuck in my mind that the group which banned that design more or less had their collective head in a very dark place.

    This was a light 3500 pound Kiwi35 with fiberglass aft-hiking wings in upper Lake Michigan in a big 100 mph thunderstorm near midnight: Nearby Chi/ Mac racers had wind indicators blown off or pegged. All sails were furled except a storm jib. I suspect it was skidding on its side when the downwind hiking wing dug in and stopped the boat. Kinetic energy threw it over, while spilling out the hunkered-down crew, 2 of whom were under the rapidly descending hiking wing and wearing lifejackets like everybody else. A strong sea anchor might well have prevented this skidding then capsize, nothing else comes to mind. Having a storm jib up and trying to sail in this wind= not possible. I was about 80 miles away and it was really nasty that night.


    How big would you think the waves were in the middle of Lake Michigan with 60 miles of fetch, or 200+ miles if it was from the South? There are literally hundreds of big wooden boats, iron and steel too, lying on the bottom of Lake Michigan. Guess why. The KIwi 35 is probably properly described as a 'bay boat', meaning Tampa Bay, Florida. Guess why.


    I'm posting this beauty here and on the Mocking CL threads as it is a champ in both areas - love the Home Depot interior rebuild. Talk about lipstick on a pig.


    If I was his Grandma I'd disown him.



    Ugly as sin for a boat, but with all this timy house nonsense going on now days maybe it is not such a bad thing. One thing though, Where are the bunks?? Is that a quarterbirth on the starboard side?? Port top looks like an opening, but is there enough over there??



    "Wood stove" nails it for me! $%^&*&^%$

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