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  1. I have owned a Farr 30 and a Henderson 30 and my favorite boat of all time is the Farr 30.   It is a great boat. Outboard is peace of mind and a lot easier on your back moving an outboard from transom to down below. It was always a challenge doing it will heeled over. Runners are a pain on the Hendo. It gives a crew member another job, but one of the most important.  The Farr is much easier to drive then the hendo. The rudder shape is much better. You could easily man handle the rudder to get the boat to go where you wanted it too. The hendo no way and I had a M32 rudder on it. The Farr 30 you can sail short handed in light air. Have done it with 3 people and won races.

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  2. So I know that this has been brought up before and figured I could drum up a little conversation on the thread, but thoughts on going to non-overlapping headsails?

     

    It could be done and leave the runners in place and set the non-overlapper to the tracks next to the cabin house or you could also get away from the runners by getting more swept spreaders and build a new chain plate gusset in the boat to allow for more sweep and rig support. You could then feasibly get rid of the permanent backstay, go square top and mast head runners, by doing this you bring the center of effort back to where it was with the genoa and standard "big" main.

     

    You may lose a little light air performance but the boat could be a little more fun and a little cheaper without burning through Genoa's because of bad tacks and such.... just food for thought!

     

    (I bet we can get at least 4 people to say then buy a farr 30 and maybe 2 or 3 say buy a melges 32... :blink:)

     

    Hawk, Paul Amon built a few boats like this. The problem is rig would need to get taller like what Melges did with 32 for conversion from 30.

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    St. Pete Noods are Feb 12-14. Not sure of official number of boats needed for class but have seen them run classes with 5 boats in the past. The last couple of years there has been a local doing the nods in phrf. I currently am planning on racing a 7.9 at St Pete, but if there was interest I could drag the hendo their. Regarding configuration, St Pete has phrf classes. We could just race within a phrf class if we were going to have different configurations. Or, I could loan you a main, or we could help you cut your main, or you could race with a number 2 Genoa instead of a 1. The possibilities to equalize are endless. I know my crew would be happy if I took the hendo so more of them could come.

     

    When is the St Pete Noods and how many Hendo's would we need to get our own start?

    I'm not to sure on how class legal my boat would be considering we oversized our main by a bit to try and keep up with the Farr 30's a bit better. Would we use class rules or just let any Hendo in to get max participation? Just thinking out loud here, I might be able to convince my crew to go elsewhere if we know we could race some other H30's!

     

    Like I mentioned before I will start talking with my crew and see what they are willing to do... maybe we will do both, however very doubtfull. We do have a class legal main however it has seen many a better day. It would need some rework as it's our "heavy weather main" haha and ends up getting reefed and flogged alot... infact about a month ago we were doing a regatta where we didn't see below 20kts of wind an entire day! Needless to say we are now an A2 short haha!

     

    Hendo30chick would you guys be willing to drag your boat down? If that is the case and Eerie you drag your boat down that would be at least 3 hendo's and I know of another one in NC that might be willing to travel to race a group of hendo's. That could be a total of 4 with the potential of a 5 boat that is local... starting to look promising!

    Well guys after much talking with my crew St. Pete's won't work for us. Charleston is looking like it is going to support my crew's work schedule a little bit better. Hopefully we can get another hendo or two to show up.

     

    Question to other hendo owners.... Has anyone replaced the bow pulpit with something similar to a Farr 30 or Melges 32 pulpit? I feel that the standard Hendo one kinda eats up kites everytime you prefeed out the tack! It really doesn't lend itself to a great prefeed no matter how much you tape it up and try to cover all the potential snag points.

    I had no issues with pre feeding the spinnaker.

  4. Thank you for the detailed replies, have sailed on one a few time and I can see it being a rocket in heavy air.

     

    The boat shines in the light stuff. With overlapping headsail and large SA to displacement. The medium air can be challenging, but once you reach planning wind speed you can do quite well, Like any sportboat medium air displacement mode is its weak spot.

  5. Do any other Hendo owners still have the check stays on their boats? Did they help much or just create more of a hassel?

     

    Secondly I have a couple tunning guides from Ullman dating back to 2009, I was curious if other owners are following the recommend shroud tensions, mast rake, and forestay lengtth.

     

    Lastly we are the new owners of former Gardyloo now "Short Bus"!

    We never used them on our boat. We used the Ullman tuning guide numbers from Doug Fisher. We had rod rigging so we had to tweak the numbers a little.

  6. Are there any Henderson 30's near CT? We are interested in speaking to a current owner and perhaps seeing if we can go for a sail. Anyone nearby?

    Send me a personal message and will answer all of your questions!

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    Looks to be in decent shape...anyone know the hull number or name?

    The boat was never raced. Doesn't have a trailer, just a shipping cradle. The boat doesn't look like it was used much at all, but certainly could use some refitting... I hope it generates some interest :-)
    What refitting do you think it could use? I am interested in this boat.
    All of the hardware looks original.... 19+ years old.... not sure of the bottom or what type of paint.... interior looks like a screen was added to make the port-a-poddy more private. Rudder bearings look original... deck looks original just like the rest of the boat...

     

    Boat is $10k-$20k overpriced especially without a trailer, new sails or fared bottom....

    Thanks- boat is alll original. What is the best option if the rudder bearings are shot? Otherwise gelcoat looks good and so does the deck. Bottom needs to be faired and probably redone.

     

    If bearings are shot, recommend switching to Melges 32 bearings....looking at $5k for upper and lower bearing plates, then you need to retrofit your rudder and rudder cassette (between both bearing plates)

     

    No hardware needs to be replaced? Winches aren't slipping? Clutches are fine? Running rigging? Sails? Electronics?

     

    At the end of the day this is a race boat, so you need to look at all of the above.

     

    My boat I replaced all of the winches, Melges 32 rudder bearings, Melges 32 rudder, stock rudder, stock bearings, all deck hardware replaced, clutches, running rigging, deck was resprayed, mast and boom painted, added stanchion knees (Melges 32) , new tacktic electronics along with new trailer, new sail inventory.... the boat was turn key and didn't sell in the $40s....

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    Looks to be in decent shape...anyone know the hull number or name?

    The boat was never raced. Doesn't have a trailer, just a shipping cradle. The boat doesn't look like it was used much at all, but certainly could use some refitting... I hope it generates some interest :-)

     

    What refitting do you think it could use? I am interested in this boat.

     

    All of the hardware looks original.... 19+ years old.... not sure of the bottom or what type of paint.... interior looks like a screen was added to make the port-a-poddy more private. Rudder bearings look original... deck looks original just like the rest of the boat...

     

    Boat is $10k-$20k overpriced especially without a trailer, new sails or fared bottom....

  9. I found a new sail built for a different boat, but has very similar rig dimensions...we just need to figure out if it will fit.

    I would recommend getting one designed for the boat, vs getting one designed for another boat and making it work. The Henderson is a different beast on it's own...

  10. We've had her in the water a month and have done a couple non-race demos. We are taking different people on the races though, 3 core and 3 rotating for demo spots.

    Nice Idea!!!

  11. Anybody got the sail dimensions handy for a 155 headsail? We are looking for a replacement, but can't get at our old sails right away to measure.

    Sailmaker shouldn't need them from you.... foot should be 155% the j measurement of 11.04 ft

  12. Is it just me, but isn't this demo boat doing a lot of racing vs demo sailing around the bay for potential owners? I could be wrong....

     

    I'm not saying racing the boat isn't a great way to get a buyer, just not something I thought was common.

  13. Has anyone ever thought about putting swept back spreaders and doing away with the runners on a Henderson 30. This would require going to a non-overlaping jib and maybe a bigger mainsail.

    I believe two boats were built with swept back spreaders and non overlapping jibs. You have to move the chainplates outboard. I think the boats were converted back to standard setup. I know years ago owners had thought about getting Farr 30 spreaders and moving chainplates as a package, but it never happened. The boat would be underpowered in light air in my opinion without a taller mast like Melges 32.

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