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Former MDR Vandal 1

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  1. Escapade. Better record than Little Ti, over a longer period of time and a more diverse race schedule.
  2. Escapade - rarely mentioned, but one of the greatest boats ever built.
  3. Probably referring to the Jerome Milgram designed Ondine.
  4. Kick'em Jenny advisory now listed as Orange. 5 KM exclusion zone in effect.
  5. Is it really a comp if you are comparing a Holby-built boat to a Carrol Marine-built boat? As an owner of a Carrol Marine boat I can tell you 1. They are not as bad as everyone says they are, but; 2. I would much prefer to own a Holby-built boat. No matter how well maintained and well equipped this boat is, you can’t get past certain salient facts: The boat has an aluminum rig with inline spreaders, overlapping jibs and symmetrical spinnakers. I think that limits the upper end of what the boat will garner on the open market. As an aside, one of the best names I ever saw for
  6. I wonder if this was taken on G IV. I got to race on her once when she was Matoaka. Huge overlapping jibs. Worn out a lot of grinders. Luckily I was trimming.
  7. " ... the crew of the Maxi Edmond de Rothschild crossed the equator this Friday 15 January at 14h48'32'' UTC, after 5 days 13 hours 14 minutes and 46 seconds at sea. Though this first passage time is a far cry from the outright record for this section, which has been held since 2019 by Spindrift Racing in a time of 4 days 19 hours 57 minutes ..." IDEC's time was 5 days 18 hours 59 minutes. L. Peyron's time in 2011 was 5 days 14 hours 55 minutes. As I have said in previous posts, using IDEC, which was several hundred miles BEHIND the record pace at Cape of Good Hope, as a metric for
  8. Here is a link to a NYC Area Crew List http://www.nycsailing.com/ This one doesn’t look like it has been very active. WindCheck, which is like Latitude 38 back East, used to have a section a section called “Crew Connection.” I can’t find it on their website. I have some vague recollection that they discontinued it for some reason. Maybe someone familiar with the facts behind that can fill it in for us … I got a few crew off of it and also a ride once. When the Beneteau 36.7 Class on Long Island Sound was active, they made an effort to place people on boats. Can’t find th
  9. Correct. Boat had been used in many prominent ads for Concordia, often times the full back cover of various sailing magazines. It was a picture of the boat going downwind, bow pointed right at the camera, with the bow person (an attractive young woman) at the bow pulpit, back to the camera, lazy guy in hand, ready for a jibe. She was the boat captain. Died on a delivery due to carbon monoxide poisoning. Early to Mid 90's.
  10. Is this thread complete without mentioning Not By Bread Alone?
  11. New Zealand Endeavour did not have a triactic (a stay between the top of the Main and the top of the Mizzen). It did have a "mizzen forestay," which ran from the top of the mizzen (which was basically a Volvo 60 mast) down to about 5 feet astern of the traveler; we actually flew the mizzen stay sail #3 and #4 off of that. The other mizzen stay sails (#1 #2 and #2VL) were on furlers and tacked to weather most of the time, as were the reaching and running mizzen spinnakers which we referred to (perhaps incorrectly) as mizzen gennakers. Rex Banks -- Top Ten Coolest Guys Ever.
  12. Yeah, I saw they had to gybe, but I didn't correctly calculate how unfavored the unfavorable gybe would be. I thought they would be able to gradually slide north to IDEC's track. Not head off at 50 degrees (not sure if it is mag or true). Excellent point. I did realize that. What I didn't anticipate was the gybe was such a bad heading and that they had to stay on it for so long. I think I was lured in by IDEC's track and assumed (incorrectly) that the lion's share of the miles would be straight down the track. As we can see, they sailed as straight as possible on the rhumb
  13. Airwick and Laurent – thanks for the translations. I am famously without any French. I, too, wonder what Coville means … Let’s assume, Coville’s statement means that he feels the low pressure position is not ideal and the sea state is not conducive to foiling for their leg to Leeuwin. If you do a back of the envelope calculation, we know IDEC will average 35 knots / 840 nm over the 4 ½ days to Cape Leeuwin. So if Sodebo averages 740 nm a day over this leg, which seems reasonable since their lowest figure has been about 770 nm over a 24 hour period since they entered the
  14. Interesting. Where did you get that information? It is true that the Cape of Good Hope to Cape Leeuwin IDEC time is close to unassailable. You’d need flat water, perfect weather and a foiler to get ahead of the 4 ½ day reference time. That’s about a 35 knot average and about an average of 840 nm a day. I assume the brain trust on Sodebo feels the Leeuwin to Cape Horn reference time is “softer.” Maybe they are banking on foiling from Cape Horn to the Equator, a reference record that IDEC doesn’t own. IDEC pouring it on, taken about 50 miles back. Lead now 644 nm. Below is a
  15. Wow. That was amazing watching Sodebo drop into that low and take off. I think the highest 24 hour average I saw 880 + nm and they were close to 700 nm ahead of IDEC at one point … They were going right down the rhumb line for the majority of the day. They remain about 175 miles further south than IDEC’s track where you get big gains by being a few more degrees south. They clearly have the speed to put up the numbers required. Now the question becomes if the boat is reliable, the weather cooperates and ice is not an issue (Peyron had to jog north in 2011 due to ice). I don’t think
  16. Sodebo will basically have to show another gear that they have not yet had a chance to demonstrate. I thought that a much more modern crewed foiler would be comfortably ahead of the fastest reference times at this point so that they would only have to match the IDEC Southern Ocean numbers. Right now Sodebo are showing 850 nm over the last 24 hours with a 562 nm lead. They will certainly have to reel off several 890 + nm days to keep themselves in contention by Cape Horn. I was surprised they legged out on Gitana 17 during those first few days … And as I mentioned I was completely
  17. It will be interesting to see where Sodebo is at the Cape of Good Hope reference point. Their relatively small 200 nm lead over IDEC allowed them to get on the “Southern Ocean Low Pressure Highway” a day prior to when IDEC did in 2016. Sodebo are piling on some miles right now (as I write they are 525 nm ahead) … but Day 11 is when IDEC came alive are started putting up the unreal numbers highlighted below. The crewed record to Cape of Good Hope is was not set by IDEC but by Loick Peyron in 2011 at 11 d 21 h 48. The best time is Garbart’s (due to his amazing run in the South Atlantic)
  18. You are quite the student of the game and an astute observer … I only wish I had created a chart that accurately displayed each leg’s best speed in comparison the others to illustrate points such as those … say in post Number 205 …
  19. This is why the North and South Atlantic going down and the South and North Atlantic going up matter so much ... from Cape of Good Hope to Cape Horn there are potentially no real gains to be had until these boats are reliably fully foiling in fresh conditions for their entire run in the South. Just coming close to matching Francis' Southern Ocean run would be a most impressive feat. Think 85 home runs in a season, or 145 goals in the NHL, or running for 2,700 yards in the NFL. That is what Francis did down there on an old boat with 5 other guys ...
  20. We all miss Fralo’s terrific site which succinctly summarized Jules Verne attempts as well as related information such as Fosset’s and Garbart’s circumnavigations. Below are the relevant times with the fastest intermediate reference times highlighted. The chart below identifies fastest leg. If you string all of the fastest legs together, you are looking at theoretical 38 day circumnavigation. Of course, it doesn’t work that way …
  21. True. A small nugget of humor among the tens of thousands of mindless, angry and superfluous posts.
  22. I have seen boats ads that advertise F/C 44’s as a “sistership” to Shamrock. I also remember Drake commenting his boat was a sistership to the Rock. Conversely, I have seen Shamrock called a “52 footer” in an old Latitude 38. And I realize you are extremely familiar with what we are discussing. Next time I see Billy P., I’ll ask him. He used to borrow it to go to the Island. Greg, Herbie and Bobby had to get it ready for him. Man, did they complain about that …
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