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    Nehenehe, currently in New Zealand 4/2021
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    Staying for the Southern Winter here; then getting the hell out of Dodge as soon as the world reopens to westward bound cruising

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  1. I agree, Pie plates always leak. Bowmar had some that were aluminum with a reasonable weight and cost that I've used that were decently water tight. However... the only solution we came up with is the plates we had machined. They have an O-ring seal cut into the side of the plate just above where the threads stop at the top. This seal is 100% water-proof but it cost us $400 NZD at the time to make two of them. I can not fathom why better ones like we have are not mass produced and marketed by one of what seem like 50 different pie-plate / inspection port manufacturers.
  2. We had older Marinco solar vent s in each ama. We used to close them off with a solid 'push-in' pie plate (this had a #10 pan head set screw for added security) when sailing off-shore. The leeward ama's pie plate cover blew out while underway, possibly because it was a very squally night and we were sailing thru mostly beam-on seas. It was pitch dark and we didn't notice it immediately. Allot of water can flow thru a 4" hole in your deck in those conditions. Since then we have switched to a threaded in solar vent and have had a machinist cut threads to match in new 1-1/4" thick deck plate
  3. Well... this is all very rough. I am 100% sure that when I stared... I was extracting 3 gallons every 15-20 seconds, at least when the hatch was open. That much water in your boat brings the best in you out! It was 'easy' until the water got shallower and the floating flotsam started to truly beat me up. Melanie on deck felt just fine about it, "no problem mate". I probably stopped with 10% of the water still in the ama and extracted that after we made landfall inside Hao Atoll. I think any number calculated on this basis could be as much as plus or minus 30%. The forward watertight compar
  4. There is a huge forward watertight compartment and also a small one at the aft end. The water was about 1/2 the total depth. The wife used to drive a Ford 350 with a plate that said RedNkGrl1... so she is part Calgary cowgirl.
  5. Surely you know the answer, I would be very interested to know? I've been told 200% But?? What I do know is that we had our leeward ama flood on a difficult nighttime passage. I counted the buckets at 3 gallons each coming out as my wife and I bailed while still going to windward in about 17kn AWS. A wave would wash over the ama hatch about every 1-5 minutes and wifie would slam that hatch shut (me inside with bucket) as the water passed over... wound up being about 5,000 pounds of water that we moved over about 2-1/2 hours time. I recall the ama was visually about ?? 1/3 full of water.
  6. It's always good on SA to suffer some admonishment. It's paying your dues around this environment. However, I'm not so sure about this. As the post has progressed... I've indicated that the cuddy cabin (which was only vestigial in my mind anyways) can fall to the wayside to save weight and design constraint. We are then left with a small trimaran that can be used as a day sailor by two people and is either light enough or easily demountable... so that two of us can deal with it on the rocky shore shown. I can probably make a bail of hay work for an overnighter and a two-up day sailor will
  7. It would be interesting to hear what your concerns are (eg. capsize, breaking up etc.). I think that would a bit of a thread hijack... But I'll private message you, I don't think that the general readership would care much, But sounds like a good topic for another thread if you want to start one? (Just for interest sake, have you been editing your post? Yes, I edited it within the first ten minutes to add the bit about my own personal concern about reducing weight on a tri compared to a monohull when used on long off-shore passages. I also amplified my comments with reg
  8. I have come to realize that I am not experienced enough to make general comments, I'm not a naval architect (I assume Zonker is and has far-far more experience).I have only owned two trimarans; one that did up to a 45 day trip and the one I am for the last four year trip. I wanted to know if you were on topic with your own experience and if this was relevant to Trimarans. I do know that I am seriously concerned about how much weight we have taken on and work very hard to reduce weight as we move along. I feel that it is a much more serious issue in our present trimaran than it was in my
  9. We are in New Zealand and have had stuff shipped here from the US east coast and also France. Anytime that UPS is used it takes a month and then gets stuck in customs for up to ten days. Anytime DHL is used it takes a week and spends just one day in customs. If you're in a hurry then DHL is now the only 'on time' delivery service. This was also true when we were in French Polynesia three years ago before Covid hit. For Dyneema rigging, and high tech lines... You should also just give Keith Burrage a try.... "Skateaway Designs" He is a one man shop but has alot of stock, very fair prices,
  10. Thorn, Very good advice, and you were the first to give it on the WR17! Thanks for all your input and everyone else's continuing thoughts and advice. The lousy rocky beach makes this one a very hard nut to crack and many of these designs are impressive....e.g.... still a bit stunned by the WR16 header on the dock video segment! The weight of the WR17 looks like it may be? too high after seeing four fit old farts struggling a bit on an easy rocky shore to get it above tideline. I'm sure a dolly would have helped and one of them could have possibly pulled it and easy for two. There ar
  11. I need (actually hope) to be able to sail an upwind angle of 37 AWA easily and efficiently. Most of the boats that I hope to consider are aws boats and bring the wind forward to the extent that they tend to be sailing upwind allot of the time. I don't know any of the WindRiders and will take a look, especially since Tom (who owners the Astus 16) is giving it a thumbs up... Oh just see a post from him as I am typing this....
  12. I should have asked Pantouf for the picture "when the floats are extended" and before the mast goes up. I think this one is in the folded position? In any case ... I am very curious to capture the float position extended before the rig tensions everything up, the amas lift due to rig tension and the beams flexing upward, the main hull sinks further, and the boat is fully deployed with it's mast on. Just curious about this.
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