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  1. I would pay a premium to go at night with a controlled crowd size...pretty much the same all over Paris...the crowds don't seem to bother my wife...I simply can not relax and enjoy any of it and get pissed off by the days end
  2. Yes impossible savor ...find a moment when you can stand back and take in the art and some fool walks up right in front of your face....it is too much for me....South America is on my bucket list before it too is crushed by tourism
  3. I crossed the Pacific 2 or 3 times in the 50's on the President Lines, "Cleveland" & "Wilson" as well as on the Matson Lines from Honolulu to SF ....Ocean Liner's that carried passengers in style
  4. Sadly this applies all over the world...whether big cities or small towns....don't get me started on what cruise ships have done ...
  5. I read in today's paper that Macron said it would be a quick rebuild ,5 year target, with modern material and techniques in the roof construction.I'd guess much of the new roof would be built off site and either trucked or helo'd ...I had also heard yesterday that much of the masonary has been in a bad state even before the fire so at least now the whole structure will get the proper attention. Also that the country of France had only been paying a pittance annually toward the maintenance of Notre Dame as it was a Catholic church property something like 2 million a year,I could be mistaken
  6. I don't think the wood beams were visible to the public...they were between the vaulted ceiling and the metal roof...laminated oak beams would do in my book...nobody cared 2 days ago
  7. Actually the country of France paid very little of the annual costs to maintain Notre Dame...they pushed virtually all of the maintenance costs onto the Catholic church and international donations ...
  8. IMO...there is no need to rebuild exactly as it was built originally (single tree as a roofing beam ) as long as it looks the same in great detail....the roofing structure that burned is seldom seen ,it was above the vaulted ceilings which is what the visitors see from the cathedral floor...those wood timbers were between the vaulted ceiling and the metal roof. The new metal roof will not have the patina of the lost roof....fortunately most of the interior areas typically seen by tourists was not destroyed as most of the fire was above the vaulted ceiling ....
  9. How the vaulted ceiling protected the interior from the blazing roof which was 100 % destroyed .... Point Break...interested to hear your thoughts on the Frenchie fire helmet design....I kind of like the thought behind it, seems more helmet design with a little ducktail for neck protection..can't tell if the airmask seals against the helmet or face ......another thought and that was that this fire could have been the last day,week,month of a career firefighter and the first day,week,month of a young firefighter....what a way to start or go out...
  10. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6926807/Devastating-aftermath-Notre-Dame-inferno-leaves-world-mourning.html very interesting collection of photos...one thing I did not realize was that the roof and supporting wooded timber that was %100 lost and seen in the fire yesterday were above the vaulted stone ceiling which prevented the worst of the fire from entering the interior volume of the cathedral. The large candles near the altar did not even melt of bend from the burning debris that crashed onto the floor...
  11. The "renovation" possible cause .....is the one too early to draw conclusion that stuck, but is as baseless as any other and the cause ...unless an eye witness comes forward actually in the location and seeing a fire start we will never know with certainty. The fire erupted sometime after 6 local time which is probably 1-2 hours after workers called it a day....I'd like to find out if any workers or staff were in those extreme upper levels and when they last came down that day...that would only be a handful of names
  12. In a way there were/are sky boxes....on both sides of the cathedral floor are small individual chapels ....the replica rebuild can be accomplished much faster with modern techniques..much of the ceiling/roof is symmetrical and repeating. These wooden roof beams can be built/carved with CNC 5 axis routers and craned into place once brought on site, same with many other architectural elements, ridiculous notion that it needs to be rebuilt with 600 years old techniques using with modern artisans.
  13. I hope so but just because they are still standing does not mean they are structurally sound, the walls are basically stacked stone supported on the outside with the flying buttresses and supported on the inside by the now missing vaulted cathedral ceilings...the two bell towers seem to have had the least damage
  14. We saw a wonderful performance there...
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