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  1. When I bought my boat it was out of the water, rig out and a $400 truck ride each way to get launched. I opted not to launch the boat but was fortunate that a previous buyer had gone through that trouble and I had the report from the mechanic who did the sea trial. It took some of the risk out, but not all. We did run the engine with a hose on land but without any load, it really doesn't tell you much. Ultimately it worked out, but I do have some issues with the engine under WOT (black soot in the exhaust). My mechanic here believes the injectors should be serviced and I will likely have
  2. Thanks for your recommendations, I really appreciate the advice on the J/40. For what I have described from the beginning it is really the perfect choice. It is way more boat than the J/32 I looked at, and faster. 

    I don't see any weaknesses in this one below other than the cabin sole needs refinishing. Repowered, owned by a yacht broker, recent sails, nice upgrades, great galley, used only four months of the year and stored covered... the interior is brighter and tougher teak instead of soft, dark mahogany. Do the decks craze on these like many other J Boats? I can't figure this out, which ones are prone to that problem. 

    The J/35 is appealing but I understand the limitations of weak ground tackle, big headsail, smaller volume interior... however still SO much boat for the money and I love the speed as I used to race cars and motorcycles. 

    If you see anything problematic with the J/40 I would like to hear about it. It is a long trip just to see it. 

    Regards-

    Mike

    https://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1990/j-boats-j-40-3818150/

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    2. T sailor

      T sailor

      Hi Mike,

      I was looking at boats last year and the years prior in a similar price bracket so I had considered some of the options you are considering.  I really liked the J/40 as well.  At the time I was looking, most of them were around $100K which I felt was overpriced.  I ended up buying a J/120 instead (my requirements included offshore racing - Newport-Bermuda, etc... and the 120 is alittle better suited to that).  The one I bought was pretty cheap and in need of some investment, but it was a way to get into that boat and upgrade over time as funds became available.  

      As far as crazing goes, my understanding is that it is related to a bad supply of gelcoat affecting boats from several manufacturers in the time frame around 1995-2001.  I personally have only seen it in J boats but have heard from a broker that it goes beyond J's.  My boat has a little crazing but not too bad.  I looked at a J/42 that was pretty bad.  

      Not sure how tall you are, but headroom in the V berth can be alittle low in the J/40 (actually any of the jboats for that matter).  My 120 is actually a little worse on headroom, but I am only 5'-9" so not really an issue for me.  one of the crew is 6'-2" and it is a bit of a problem for him.  

      You seem to have a pretty good eye for detecting potential problems with any boat so I think you are good at determining if a boat is worthy of consideration.  The J/40 is probably one of the better boats J/boats ever made.  I think an 88 or 89 build with a repower would be a good buy.  That boat in Maine looked fantastic.  They are relatively simple, but well laid out boats.  A good moisture survey of the hull and deck is a must.  I have seen some 40's that had significant moisture issues in the hull caused by poorly sealed thru hulls.  

      I would also give the blue J/37 in MD a look.  I have raced against that boat and it seems well taken care of.  The photos of the listing look like it could use some cosmetic work on the interior but overall i think it is a pretty good value.  

      J/35's are tempting at their price point, but I think the cockpit would drive me nuts.  it also has no coamings around the cockpit so I think you will have a wet ass in any kind of seaway.  I think the Thomas 35 is a better boat for the same money and addresses some of the shortfalls of the J.

      Good luck! 

    3. Caliente

      Caliente

      Well, a miracle has happened. The potential buyer for the J/40 had offered over asking price, saw the boat and backed out of the deal. There is a recent survey and the broker says there are no issues maybe a touch of moisture in some areas like they all have. After calling two more people that gave low 70 offers, the broker called me instead of going down the list and implied it would require a full price offer to get the boat, which I agreed to. It does seem to be a fantastic boat maybe needing some fresh cosmetics which I actually enjoy doing if there is not a ridiculous amount of body work. 

      Your observations about the J/35 are spot on. It is more of a purist's boat and everyone will have a wet ass, but I hang out with thirty youngish volleyball beach types so it wouldn't be hard to find people. Lake Erie is always going to have chop and wind. OTOH they are SO cheap! The one in Buffalo has two offers on it but the owner is seeking higher and rejected my 32.5. 

      On paper at least, the J/40 looks like the perfect boat for me and I'm glad you mentioned it, I had thought they were out of my price range and I was shocked to see the one for sale at $79k. NOT looking forward to the trip from Maine to Cleveland during my busiest time of year ha. 

      The broker is sending me the offer paperwork and I plan to go see the J/40 ASAP. I think I like it better than the Hinckley which is $40K more. 

      Thanks again for your insights! 

    4. T sailor

      T sailor

      Good Luck!  I think that is a great boat.  I'm not a huge fan of Bermuda 40's.  They are nice, but the SW 42 is ten times a better boat (at more than double the price).  I would take the J/40 over a B40 every day of the week.  

      I think that J/40 in Maine at $79K is a good buy, especially in this market.  it was only a year or two ago that they were in the $90-100K range and those typically were not repowered.  

      cheers,

      Todd

  3. JL92 is spot on. I went aboard the GS at the last real boat show and was pretty underwhelmed with it. It is a really nice looking boat, but as JL says, the ergonomics are pretty off. everything from the cockpit layout to the settees, to the nav station did not seem to work for me. The Italia 9.98 might be worth a look as well. I think better ergonomically than the GS but still not as good as the SF. The J99 also is pretty well laid out boat and works from a functionality standpoint. On paper, I have been really impressed with the JPK's. If I were buying a new boat, that would the
  4. Hey Kent, I am guessing you have a contract on the boat now. Can you share what it is? you know, enquiring minds want to know.... Also, it sounds like we may be a month behind you up in ME so please post some updates about your trip!
  5. I think with this change in focus, I would consider a J/37 over the J/35. More comfortable to cruise, bigger cockpit and just as fast. I would also look at the Thomas 35 as a good J/35 alternative and if you are ok with a slightly slower boat, the Tartan 3500 or a C&C 110 (or 36XL). For the Tartan or C&C110, I would look for one that was built in the late 90's before they switched over to using epoxy. They struggled to get a good gelcoat bond with the early epoxy boats and used tie coats that added a lot of weight. We had an epoxy 3400 in the family for a while and it was a nice b
  6. Check with Chesapeake Light craft. They may do it for you. Compukeel may sell you a template kit (not Cnc routed) but they take a week or two to get.
  7. For similar vintage and price, have you considered an Alden 44 or a Cambria 40? I consider both to be a premium boat that is well built and I think is comparable to the performance and space of the Swan. Personally I like the Alden as a good cross between the B40 and the swan. The swan and B40 are iconic boats so I get the appeal but just curious why those are the only options under consideration? If you are just limiting to the Swan vs. B40, I would probably go Swan just for the fact that it is faster and has more room. I like the look of the B40 better, but I think the Swan is mo
  8. T sailor

    Zincs

    My boat came with 2 zincs on the prop shaft. Is there a benefit to having 2 or is one sufficient. I thought I read somewhere that 2 had no benefit but can’t recall. Any thoughts?
  9. HI Ajax, I would be the 3rd. Just got time off squared away so we will be leaving from RI (we are doing A2N in June) around 7/12. Need to be back at work on 8/9. We are Galesville based normally. cheers, T
  10. If you need a rigger to help, reach out to Harney Rigging. He is responsive, reasonably priced and should be able to get you set! I know he does work on a lot of boats South of Annapolis.
  11. Congrats! Was there moisture in the bulkhead? I don’t think the core was sealed at the top of the bulkhead so leaks could let water into the core.
  12. The main bulkhead is cored. I am not sure with what, but definitely cored.
  13. The only reason Brooklin was on the list was because I had read a book about the yard and Joel White. If there isn’t much to see then we’ll skip it and do Bucks per your recommendation. I like the input as I am sure it will make for a more enjoyable trip.
  14. Thanks all for the input. I had reservations about staying in BH (looks pretty unprotected and I’m sure is super busy). We’ll plan on doing NEH and bus instead. I just need to make sure the kids can be occupied. Any other suggestions? unfortunately I fall into the category of preferring moorings over anchoring. Somewhat related, what is the anchor of choice up there? I have a fortress and an older fluke style. Considering a Mantus or Rocna.
  15. I know, Bar Harbor seems like a bad idea but I have never done Acadia and we have some friends that will be there. I figure a few days there and then mosey on. That is probably as Far East as we will go. The idea is to go from there to Brooklin, Castine and Camden and anywhere else around there that looks good. From there we would make long treks southwest as the winds allow. Unfortunately there will be a defined end date to the trip so I will have to be on somewhat of a schedule. I was planning to take around a week to get up there from NPT, then spend around 10-12 days in Midcoast, the
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