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Best outcome for all involved would be for him to keep making these short excursions downwind. down-range into the Delta regions, never to return upwind. Perhaps they can find a nice warm slough and settle in until the rescue/evac is needed. Too bad about all the litter when the inevitable break-up occurs, but in the grand scheme mostly harmless.

 

Even better than that-boat just settled into the mud up in the delta and presto-home. Break-up need not be inevitable. There are buildings in San Francisco to this day that were originally ships from elsewhere that came during the gold rush and were puled up into the mud and a door cut in the side when the whole crew ran off to be gold miners. No reason the FH couldn't stay forever and enjoy the same fate.

 

http://www.oldshipsaloon.com/

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I can assure you, nothing was added to The Rod's replies.   Perhaps sharing my reverence for The Rod, as well as my deep appreciation for the journalistic accomplishments of my Sailing Anarchy predece

And wtf happened to lil'murray.......?

Guy did not grow a vagin! Mr. Hot is full of merde! The only place Mr. Hot has seen a double hurricane is in La Nouvelle Orléans. 

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Can you guys help out this guy from the north-east that is geographically challenged?

 

I (well, Google) found China Camp State Park and San Pablo Bay. What is the 'delta'? Where would FH likely anchor? What direction and strength are the prevailing winds? What is the local area like for anchoring?

 

Thanks.

 

PS: Go the Hot Rod! And thanks to everyone for keeping us all up to date. This thread is great.

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China Camp shows some smarts - a good place to be for the prevailing winds. Keep an eye on any weird low pressure system which could put him on the beach. Time to make a trip up the delta.

For how long? according to http://yachtpals.com/cruising/china-camp:

 

 

There is a sandbar about 40 ft of the head of the pier, overnighters should always be anchored outside of there. check where the fisherman's mooring buoy is (a beer keg) and stay waaay outside of that, all the way parallell to the beach. consult the chart to see where the current is moderate and you won't get your keel wrapped. in winter: go somewhere else, any storm will whip up san pablo bay and make anchoring miserable if not impossible.

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What next, a spycam counting his turds?

Best idea yet, because at this point his sanitation practices remain as the only important issue. He is truly living his dream, his triumph, which is shitting wherever he chooses. For some people, that's freedom.

 

Yes, it is now more certain that he will end up in the Sacramento - San Juaquin River Delta, the source of California's "fresh" water. So he really will be putting "his money" where others' mouths are.

 

Go the Rod! ??

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Can you guys help out this guy from the north-east that is geographically challenged?

 

I (well, Google) found China Camp State Park and San Pablo Bay. What is the 'delta'? Where would FH likely anchor? What direction and strength are the prevailing winds? What is the local area like for anchoring?

 

Thanks.

 

PS: Go the Hot Rod! And thanks to everyone for keeping us all up to date. This thread is great.

 

zoom out till you see "Stockton" on the right side of your screen. everything in between is the delta. wind generally blows from SF Bay up the delta in summer. use the Google again and search "delta ditch run"

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and just like that we're back to a crappy motorcycle thread

f'ing nitwits with an attention span shorter than their pecker
Go Hovian and relax, this could be a 1000 day epic!!

 

All the elements are here.

 

 

 

 

 

Even Wofsey,

 

this is your golden moment.

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Status report Monday 2 PM: Wind (cold!) is up a bit from yesterday and shifted slightly to the west. The shift exposes FH to more wind, but actually calmer water due to the short fetch from upwind land. I experimented with taking some pix using a digiscoping adaptor on my good spotting scope. This gives me the equivalent of a 1200mm lens, which results in a full frame picture but VERY soft, so I'll probably go back to my 300mm "real" lens, where I can crop for sharp but grainy closeups.

 

Nothing much to report: They've managed to get the sail cover back on the mizzen and appear to have pulled their dinghy up onto the cabin roof. It was probably getting beat up floating between the hulls with the motorboat right on top of it. Watching it ride at anchor through the scope (which is extremely sharp in eyeball mode) it appears that they have two lines, one from each bow running to a single anchor. As FH swings slowly through a fairly small arc, first one, then the other line takes all the load. There's a third, much lighter line running down toward the anchor, but with no load on it. (some kind of trip line?)

 

HR spent a lot of time while I was watching fussing around down at deck level with what looked like an anchor line - - -chafing? Hardware working loose? your guess is as good as mine. Later he was joined by a second shorter person (Mrs. Rod?) fussing with something up above head height on the forestay (see pic) Toward the end it looked like maybe he was unwinding a tape wrap that was working loose, but who knows?

 

I'm now outa here until Saturday afternoon. I just hope there's something to report on when I get back. Here are the best of today's pix. The first is there mainly because it shows the motorcycle. From the angle it looks like it isn't tied down at all. Just parked on the kick-stand (in case he want's to make a quick getaway?)

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Is it just me, or from some angles does the design inspiration of the FH look like a civil war ironclad??

 

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Just sayin'

 

Ya gotta read the entire thread! I mentioned that a few weeks ago - it's exactly what the FH looks like. His gun slit ports only added to the effect. :)

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Status report Monday 2 PM: Wind (cold!) is up a bit from yesterday and shifted slightly to the west. The shift exposes FH to more wind, but actually calmer water due to the short fetch from upwind land. I experimented with taking some pix using a digiscoping adaptor on my good spotting scope. This gives me the equivalent of a 1200mm lens, which results in a full frame picture but VERY soft, so I'll probably go back to my 300mm "real" lens, where I can crop for sharp but grainy closeups.

 

Nothing much to report: They've managed to get the sail cover back on the mizzen and appear to have pulled their dinghy up onto the cabin roof. It was probably getting beat up floating between the hulls with the motorboat right on top of it. Watching it ride at anchor through the scope (which is extremely sharp in eyeball mode) it appears that they have two lines, one from each bow running to a single anchor. As FH swings slowly through a fairly small arc, first one, then the other line takes all the load. There's a third, much lighter line running down toward the anchor, but with no load on it. (some kind of trip line?)

 

HR spent a lot of time while I was watching fussing around down at deck level with what looked like an anchor line - - -chafing? Hardware working loose? your guess is as good as mine. Later he was joined by a second shorter person (Mrs. Rod?) fussing with something up above head height on the forestay (see pic) Toward the end it looked like maybe he was unwinding a tape wrap that was working loose, but who knows?

 

I'm now outa here until Saturday afternoon. I just hope there's something to report on when I get back. Here are the best of today's pix. The first is there mainly because it shows the motorcycle. From the angle it looks like it isn't tied down at all. Just parked on the kick-stand (in case he want's to make a quick getaway?)

gallery_100588_742_252871.jpg

 

Is it just me, or from some angles does the design inspiration of the FH look like a civil war ironclad??

 

PICT4597_st3.jpg

 

Just sayin'

Ya gotta read the entire thread! I mentioned that a few weeks ago - it's exactly what the FH looks like. His gun slit ports only added to the effect. :)

The similarities don't end there as most of the ironclads are scattered about on the ocean floors...

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The most comprehensive thread about FH on the Wooden Boat Forum is

 

http://forum.woodenboat.com/showthread.php?136729-Could-this-be-Raw-Faith-II

 

Only 750 odd posts, and a fair bit of the good stuff borrowed from SA. Some of them know their stuff, and can use words like scantlings without sounding affected.

 

On the other hand next to no discussions of tits, or the lack thereof, who makes the crappiest motorcycles, or rantings of paranoid trolls. They don't seem to have any good agents on the ground covering FH.

 

The original Raw Faith was another case of ego, blind faith and hard word triumphing over common sense, building a large boat, and eventually sinking. For those that don't know the story look it up.

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I'm thinking the Coasties and other authorities are keenly aware of HR and the FH.

He got told that he had to leave the marina.

My guess is that he was told that he couldn't stay in the Marin Is preserve any longer.

He'll be ok for a week or so at China Camp, then he'll be told to move along again.

Hopefully, the people watching will sort of encourage him upriver, away from the big bad ocean.

I don't know San Pablo Bay all that well except that it is big and shallow... and probably his next destination.

I'm sure he'll soon start crying about how 'they' are out to get him.

 

 

And a little more on the Delta; Back in the day (like before trains), the rivers flowed well enough for shipping to go quite far inland; Sacramento was the farthest navigable point, so it became a shipping terminus for the central valley, a huge farming region. Nowadays, water conservation = "don't you dare let that water make it to the ocean", dams have been built, and there's not much shipping that far. As you go upriver, it gets shallower and more rural (cue the banjo music). It's shallow and marshy for much of it, with lots of places for somebody like the HR to hide. The Delta Ditch race is largely about who runs aground the least. Look also at the 'Delta Doo Dah', which is a cruising rally.

 

The typical summer pattern is that the central valley heats up, the air rises and fresh air is sucked in from the bay. So the prevaliling wind is westerly, which is also upstream. They put lots of windmills at places like Altamont pass to take advantage of that. There's not much river current (especially in summer), but tidal currents are still strong pretty far inland; look at Carquinez strait - to get to past Benecia, the FH will have to make a series of well timed 6 hour hops. Winter will be a different sort of test with storms coming from random directions, and occasional flooding when the rainstorms hit the valley.

 

Edit: I won't be at my boat for a couple of weeks, but I will try to find the FH as long as there's enough water for my 5' keel. Or maybe launch the dink from a nearby shore.

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All this local knowledge and not a single local BOAT with a camera?

 

This is sailing anarchy - most of the "experts" in this thread are in their mother's basement eating doritos and spend equal time here and at some donkey porn site... boats aren't actually involved in their lifestyle.

 

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All this local knowledge and not a single local BOAT with a camera?

 

 

 

This is sailing anarchy - most of the "experts" in this thread are in their mother's basement eating doritos and spend equal time here and at some donkey porn site... boats aren't actually involved in their lifestyle.

 

Romain

Yeah, my thoughts exactly... I've been a go the Rod, and have had some bird shit spewed in my direction from the armchair sailors. So far, they are the ones sinking... Call the Coasties, there are some sinking sockpuppets and dumbasses here that need to be rescued.

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FYI - noticed absence of lights last night on my way home. Sure enough, the FH was nowhere to be seen this morning.

 

 

Impound Field ??

 

Potato Patch ??

 

Running from USCG :o:o:o:o:lol:

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Donkey porn? Come on, links please.

 

Altamont Pass? Who hasn't run aground there -elevation 741 feet. Try Rio Vista if you want to sail next to wind farms.

 

There are deep water shipping channels all the way to Sacramento, and to Stockton, look up "Port of West Sacramento" or "Port of Stockton"

 

It's possible for a smaller boat to hide in the Delta, but the 65 foot FH is going to get stuck in a noticeable spot. If the authorities don't get HR, then cue the banjo music.

 

Delta has had lots of wrecks out there, including big ones. And HR certainly isn't the first person to have a boat bigger than his wallet, and out looking for a free anchorage.

 

It's a lot easier to follow HR by car than boat. From the Richmond-San Rafael Bridge, you could see FH at his last 3 homes (build site, dock, Marin Island anchorage). In San Pablo Bay, he will be offshore along Interstste 80 to Vallejo. Carquinez Strait is very narrow and there are numerous vantage points all the way through to Suisun Bay.

 

Well gotta go, Mom is calling me for my Mac n' Cheese

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All this local knowledge and not a single local BOAT with a camera?

 

 

 

This is sailing anarchy - most of the "experts" in this thread are in their mother's basement eating doritos and spend equal time here and at some donkey porn site... boats aren't actually involved in their lifestyle.

 

Romain

Yeah, my thoughts exactly... I've been a go the Rod, and have had some bird shit spewed in my direction from the armchair sailors. So far, they are the ones sinking... Call the Coasties, there are some sinking sockpuppets and dumbasses here that need to be rescued.

actually I think you are both wrong on this one. I have met a fair share of anarchists up here in VT and I know what they sail. I have yet to meet a person here who doesn't sail, a lot. Watertribers, dinghy people, O.D., big boats, ice boats, RC boats, etc. Most who I have met are passionate sailors. Tom Ray is one, he was at the EC taking pictures at god awful times of the day, not the type of thing you do if you just sit at home. Even being based in VT I have met a surprising amount of posters here. Now, those pics please? Well, once the shit hits the fan anyway.

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you know what would be amusing ...

 

If one of us was unnaturally wealthy and needed a creative way to waste some money, it would be fun to buy Hot Rod's plywood boat, get a friend in a regular boat to follow, and then just sail the great fat fucker to Hawaii! See how far you can make it ... it it starts to fall apart, jump on your friend's boat and try to steer clear of the debris field.

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you know what would be amusing ...

 

If one of us was unnaturally wealthy and needed a creative way to waste some money, it would be fun to buy Hot Rod's plywood boat, get a friend in a regular boat to follow, and then just sail the great fat fucker to Hawaii! See how far you can make it ... it it starts to fall apart, jump on your friend's boat and try to steer clear of the debris field.

 

ya

 

should be able to do that during a lunch break ;)

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All this local knowledge and not a single local BOAT with a camera?

 

 

 

This is sailing anarchy - most of the "experts" in this thread are in their mother's basement eating doritos and spend equal time here and at some donkey porn site... boats aren't actually involved in their lifestyle.

 

Romain

Yeah, my thoughts exactly... I've been a go the Rod, and have had some bird shit spewed in my direction from the armchair sailors. So far, they are the ones sinking... Call the Coasties, there are some sinking sockpuppets and dumbasses here that need to be rescued.

actually I think you are both wrong on this one. I have met a fair share of anarchists up here in VT and I know what they sail. I have yet to meet a person here who doesn't sail, a lot. Watertribers, dinghy people, O.D., big boats, ice boats, RC boats, etc. Most who I have met are passionate sailors. Tom Ray is one, he was at the EC taking pictures at god awful times of the day, not the type of thing you do if you just sit at home. Even being based in VT I have met a surprising amount of posters here. Now, those pics please? Well, once the shit hits the fan anyway.

 

I get up early anyway. The time didn't bother me, but the temperature sure as heck did! ;)

 

Oronoco, you may be able to see the boat from a road, but I wanna see the developing cracks in the boat. That's going to require another boat.

 

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This is sailing anarchy - most of the "experts" in this thread are in their mother's basement eating doritos and spend equal time here and at some donkey porn site... boats aren't actually involved in their lifestyle.

 

Romain

Yeah, my thoughts exactly... I've been a go the Rod, and have had some bird shit spewed in my direction from the armchair sailors. So far, they are the ones sinking... Call the Coasties, there are some sinking sockpuppets and dumbasses here that need to be rescued.

 

More likely that the people cheering HotRod blindly are the ones with less acquaintance with basic nautical facts. I have met several SA'ers in person (as well as a previous wilder USENET forum) and pretty much all of them have poured more seawater out of their shoes than you wanna-bees will ever sail over.

 

And some of us find deadbeats repugnant. And some of us dislike the idea of dumping trash in the water, even if it includes a donorcycle.

 

But hey... if HotRod's performance gives you a big wank while fantasizing about running out on your own bills, have at it.

 

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Is it just me, or from some angles does the design inspiration of the FH look like a civil war ironclad??

 

 

 

Just sayin'

 

Ya gotta read the entire thread! I mentioned that a few weeks ago - it's exactly what the FH looks like. His gun slit ports only added to the effect. :)

 

Sorry I missed that Sloop, my schedule only allows me time to skim this.. This thread needs a weekly digest/summary.

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Is it just me, or from some angles does the design inspiration of the FH look like a civil war ironclad??

 

 

 

Just sayin'

 

Ya gotta read the entire thread! I mentioned that a few weeks ago - it's exactly what the FH looks like. His gun slit ports only added to the effect. :)

 

Sorry I missed that Sloop, my schedule only allows me time to skim this.. This thread needs a weekly digest/summary.

 

Get back into your mothers basement and spend an appropriate amount of time here. :P

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Looks like it's possible for someone with no sailing background to build a boat correctly.

 

http://www.popsci.com/diy/article/2013-07/semitrailer-size-boat-thats-completely-pirate-proof

 

The difference is that boat is named "Faith", not "Blind Faith".

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Looks like it's possible for someone with no sailing background to build a boat correctly.

 

http://www.popsci.com/diy/article/2013-07/semitrailer-size-boat-thats-completely-pirate-proof

You can see signs he's not sailed offshore, if at all. There are no fiddles or handholds in the interior pic looking aft.

Turn that photo to 20 degrees of tilt and imagine yourself trying to walk through that area when the seas are running.

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This is sailing anarchy - most of the "experts" in this thread are in their mother's basement eating doritos and spend equal time here and at some donkey porn site... boats aren't actually involved in their lifestyle.

 

Romain

Yeah, my thoughts exactly... I've been a go the Rod, and have had some bird shit spewed in my direction from the armchair sailors. So far, they are the ones sinking... Call the Coasties, there are some sinking sockpuppets and dumbasses here that need to be rescued.

More likely that the people cheering HotRod blindly are the ones with less acquaintance with basic nautical facts. I have met several SA'ers in person (as well as a previous wilder USENET forum) and pretty much all of them have poured more seawater out of their shoes than you wanna-bees will ever sail over.

 

And some of us find deadbeats repugnant. And some of us dislike the idea of dumping trash in the water, even if it includes a donorcycle.

 

But hey... if HotRod's performance gives you a big wank while fantasizing about running out on your own bills, have at it.

 

FB- Doug

Sailing for 30 years, cruising for six. Ever anchor in 140' of wawa? Used an Aries windvane? Surfed 18' waves with a drogue astern to slow you down? STFU asswipe...

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... ...

 

This is sailing anarchy - most of the "experts" in this thread are in their mother's basement eating doritos and spend equal time here and at some donkey porn site... boats aren't actually involved in their lifestyle.

 

Romain

Yeah, my thoughts exactly... I've been a go the Rod, and have had some bird shit spewed in my direction from the armchair sailors. So far, they are the ones sinking... Call the Coasties, there are some sinking sockpuppets and dumbasses here that need to be rescued.

More likely that the people cheering HotRod blindly are the ones with less acquaintance with basic nautical facts. I have met several SA'ers in person (as well as a previous wilder USENET forum) and pretty much all of them have poured more seawater out of their shoes than you wanna-bees will ever sail over.

 

And some of us find deadbeats repugnant. And some of us dislike the idea of dumping trash in the water, even if it includes a donorcycle.

 

But hey... if HotRod's performance gives you a big wank while fantasizing about running out on your own bills, have at it.

 

FB- Doug

Sailing for 30 years, cruising for six. Ever anchor in 140' of wawa? Used an Aries windvane? Surfed 18' waves with a drogue astern to slow you down? STFU asswipe...

Can't we all just get along...

 

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Sailing for 30 years, cruising for six. Ever anchor in 140' of wawa? Used an Aries windvane? Surfed 18' waves with a drogue astern to slow you down? STFU asswipe...

 

Oh, you bad

 

I've been sailing all my life, over 50 years now. Have you crossed any oceans? Done it as watch captain on a 100 yr old schooner? Conned a destroyer to a successful MOB pick up? How many hurricanes have you anchored in, successfully? :Let's see... oh yeah racing, how many different one-designs have you picked up at least some silver? Raced in regattas of over 100? ... yeah and boatbuilding, how many have you done from scratch? How many 30+' rebuilt structurally?

 

I can't type fast enough, and it begins to look like braggin... so never mind

 

STFU is really not what you meant to say

 

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Looks like it's possible for someone with no sailing background to build a boat correctly.

 

http://www.popsci.com/diy/article/2013-07/semitrailer-size-boat-thats-completely-pirate-proof

 

The difference is that boat is named "Faith", not "Blind Faith".

 

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Faith’s water-treatment system converts seven to nine gallons of seawater into tap water every hour, using carbon filters and a bacteria-killing ultraviolet light to get the job done.

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Somehow I don't think carbon filters and UV are going to "get the job job done" when he moves the vessel from Indiana to the sea. Overall though he's done far far better than HotRod

 

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It would be a shame if they put a propulsion plant in it if the intend is to just be a hotel.

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Sailing for 30 years, cruising for six. Ever anchor in 140' of wawa? Used an Aries windvane? Surfed 18' waves with a drogue astern to slow you down? STFU asswipe...

Oh, you bad

 

I've been sailing all my life, over 50 years now. Have you crossed any oceans? Done it as watch captain on a 100 yr old schooner? Conned a destroyer to a successful MOB pick up? How many hurricanes have you anchored in, successfully? :Let's see... oh yeah racing, how many different one-designs have you picked up at least some silver? Raced in regattas of over 100? ... yeah and boatbuilding, how many have you done from scratch? How many 30+' rebuilt structurally?

 

I can't type fast enough, and it begins to look like braggin... so never mind

 

STFU is really not what you meant to say

 

FB- Doug

I was simply answering to your silly idea that HR supporters are a bunch of folks who don't know nuthin... I'm paraphrasing of course... And uh sir, shit, with your resume you'll be DTS in a month...

 

Oh, and yes, and yes, no, but I did deliver an Oyster'62.... Take an aspirin, some of us have done some stuff...

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I am not pulling for the Rod because we all know how this is going to end. He'll be broke, facing a clean up fine, risking others skin to save his ass (if he ever gets going), lost his bike, possibly his mom, and all for what? If he's living the dream I am dreaming the wrong things. Boat, yes. Island life, yes. P.O.S. boat, no. No idea what I am doing, no. I could go on here. When it breaks up it will be amusing and sad all at once. I'll laugh and point but feel bad too.

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Is it just me, or from some angles does the design inspiration of the FH look like a civil war ironclad??

 

 

 

Just sayin'

Ya gotta read the entire thread! I mentioned that a few weeks ago - it's exactly what the FH looks like. His gun slit ports only added to the effect. :)

 

 

Sorry I missed that Sloop, my schedule only allows me time to skim this.. This thread needs a weekly digest/summary.

 

 

Get back into your mothers basement and spend an appropriate amount of time here. :P

 

 

Farken funny!
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Looks like it's possible for someone with no sailing background to build a boat correctly.

 

http://www.popsci.com/diy/article/2013-07/semitrailer-size-boat-thats-completely-pirate-proof

 

The difference is that boat is named "Faith", not "Blind Faith".

 

quote-

Water

Faith’s water-treatment system converts seven to nine gallons of seawater into tap water every hour, using carbon filters and a bacteria-killing ultraviolet light to get the job done.

-unquote

 

Somehow I don't think carbon filters and UV are going to "get the job job done" when he moves the vessel from Indiana to the sea. Overall though he's done far far better than HotRod

 

FB- Doug

 

 

He'll have beautifully clean saltwater to boil pasta. Does that count?

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I am not pulling for the Rod because we all know how this is going to end. He'll be broke, facing a clean up fine, risking others skin to save his ass (if he ever gets going), lost his bike, possibly his mom, and all for what? If he's living the dream I am dreaming the wrong things. Boat, yes. Island life, yes. P.O.S. boat, no. No idea what I am doing, no. I could go on here. When it breaks up it will be amusing and sad all at once. I'll laugh and point but feel bad too.

And so far, all the dire predictions have died and are awaiting burial. But if I told you all that I was gonna leave Kobenhavn for North Amerika in an open boat with only a rock for a plotter, you pussies would all be calling the Coasties on my ass too. I believe they made it... Yet if some dumbass decides to do the ARC in a Hunter or BendyToy, nobody gets their panties in a bunch even though Ralph Nader already declared said vessel unsafe at any speed. It's a big ocean with tons of wrecks... How about those pros who keep sinking? WWW.gcaptain.com

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And so far, all the dire predictions have died and are awaiting burial.

Apart from the worst of the lot-soaking up enough water it sinks isnt' exactly going to be quick, breaking up under strain could be, but it hasn't exactly been stressed yet.

 

'Up the delta, in the mud' is the most positive possible outcome. Every other is going to involve loss of live or possesions and a big bill.

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I wonder?

Would it be possible for the Flying Hawaiian to go faster than the wind, If going directly down wind?

Let's face it, What Hot Rod has done so far has been so far from expectations is it an imposable expectation?

I think we have all underestimated the strength of a glass over ply build, and those annoying 4 by 2 beams were just a form for the "real" structure.

 

:lol:

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I am not pulling for the Rod because we all know how this is going to end. He'll be broke, facing a clean up fine, risking others skin to save his ass (if he ever gets going), lost his bike, possibly his mom, and all for what? If he's living the dream I am dreaming the wrong things. Boat, yes. Island life, yes. P.O.S. boat, no. No idea what I am doing, no. I could go on here. When it breaks up it will be amusing and sad all at once. I'll laugh and point but feel bad too.

And so far, all the dire predictions have died and are awaiting burial. But if I told you all that I was gonna leave Kobenhavn for North Amerika in an open boat with only a rock for a plotter, you pussies would all be calling the Coasties on my ass too. I believe they made it... Yet if some dumbass decides to do the ARC in a Hunter or BendyToy, nobody gets their panties in a bunch even though Ralph Nader already declared said vessel unsafe at any speed. It's a big ocean with tons of wrecks... How about those pros who keep sinking? WWW.gcaptain.com

I find it ironic that redviking, one of the most vocal critics of the voyage of the Cheese Scow has now become an ardent supporter of the FH debacle. At least Stowe built a seaworthy vessel that made a circumnavigation (sailing, drifting, whatever, he still did it) as well as a journey to South America and back. Stowe made several repairs to his vessel while on his epic journey and still managed to make it back. I doubt the FH will ever leave SF Bay and if it does, it won't get far into the Pacific until the inevitable tragedy strikes. So whats up with that shit Red???? Just because HR isn't shamelessly begging for fundage doesn't make FH anything more than a poorly conceived, poorly built piece o' shit. It has yet to sail under its own power and I doubt it ever will. The best thing that could happen is that it will sink into the mud in the delta somewhere and this little misadventure disguised as a dream will be mercifully over without loss of human life.

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Earlier in the thread, someone pulled the USCG documentation record of the FH. It put HRs address in Chico, CA I think.

 

As others suggested, I predict he will tow and dock the FH somewhere upriver closer-ish to Sacramento to finish out the interior and where he is closer to his own "resources", whatever they may be.

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I am not pulling for the Rod because we all know how this is going to end. He'll be broke, facing a clean up fine, risking others skin to save his ass (if he ever gets going), lost his bike, possibly his mom, and all for what? If he's living the dream I am dreaming the wrong things. Boat, yes. Island life, yes. P.O.S. boat, no. No idea what I am doing, no. I could go on here. When it breaks up it will be amusing and sad all at once. I'll laugh and point but feel bad too.

And so far, all the dire predictions have died and are awaiting burial. But if I told you all that I was gonna leave Kobenhavn for North Amerika in an open boat with only a rock for a plotter, you pussies would all be calling the Coasties on my ass too. I believe they made it... Yet if some dumbass decides to do the ARC in a Hunter or BendyToy, nobody gets their panties in a bunch even though Ralph Nader already declared said vessel unsafe at any speed. It's a big ocean with tons of wrecks... How about those pros who keep sinking? WWW.gcaptain.com
I find it ironic that redviking, one of the most vocal critics of the voyage of the Cheese Scow has now become an ardent supporter of the FH debacle. At least Stowe built a seaworthy vessel that made a circumnavigation (sailing, drifting, whatever, he still did it) as well as a journey to South America and back. Stowe made several repairs to his vessel while on his epic journey and still managed to make it back. I doubt the FH will ever leave SF Bay and if it does, it won't get far into the Pacific until the inevitable tragedy strikes. So whats up with that shit Red???? Just because HR isn't shamelessly begging for fundage doesn't make FH anything more than a poorly conceived, poorly built piece o' shit. It has yet to sail under its own power and I doubt it ever will. The best thing that could happen is that it will sink into the mud in the delta somewhere and this little misadventure disguised as a dream will be mercifully over without loss of human life.

Hmmm... Yeah, add some sprouts, a soy, some grifting and a void Ho video and I would sing a different tune for sure... But in this case, its all speculation... HR may be crazy, but he has a ways to go before being Stowe crazy.... And now you think Anne was well built? How times have changed.

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Earlier in the thread, someone pulled the USCG documentation record of the FH. It put HRs address in Chico, CA I think.

 

As others suggested, I predict he will tow and dock the FH somewhere upriver closer-ish to Sacramento to finish out the interior and where he is closer to his own "resources", whatever they may be.

 

Here are some suggestions for HR

 

Rio Vista. This place has a ramp and some old docks. Appears abandoned. Perfect for his budget.

 

http://goo.gl/maps/WFw5G

 

Isleton has a ramp, though not a lot of space.

 

http://goo.gl/maps/EeF81

 

Truth is there are lots of places he could go upriver and not get noticed/bothered (for a while).

 

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Earlier in the thread, someone pulled the USCG documentation record of the FH. It put HRs address in Chico, CA I think.

 

As others suggested, I predict he will tow and dock the FH somewhere upriver closer-ish to Sacramento to finish out the interior and where he is closer to his own "resources", whatever they may be.

You could be on to something there. It's getting close to 'resource' harvesting season in Chico.

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I am not pulling for the Rod because we all know how this is going to end. He'll be broke, facing a clean up fine, risking others skin to save his ass (if he ever gets going), lost his bike, possibly his mom, and all for what? If he's living the dream I am dreaming the wrong things. Boat, yes. Island life, yes. P.O.S. boat, no. No idea what I am doing, no. I could go on here. When it breaks up it will be amusing and sad all at once. I'll laugh and point but feel bad too.

And so far, all the dire predictions have died and are awaiting burial. But if I told you all that I was gonna leave Kobenhavn for North Amerika in an open boat with only a rock for a plotter, you pussies would all be calling the Coasties on my ass too. I believe they made it... Yet if some dumbass decides to do the ARC in a Hunter or BendyToy, nobody gets their panties in a bunch even though Ralph Nader already declared said vessel unsafe at any speed. It's a big ocean with tons of wrecks... How about those pros who keep sinking? WWW.gcaptain.com

So far, the Rod hasn't actually done anything resembling sailing. The barge comment was spot on. Red, you don't find it sad? The guy has put everything he has into this. That isn't noble, it foolish. If he had done the same thing but for different reasons, or with just a fraction of his net worth there might be more give. He also has no experience at all, none. Your comment about the open boat, if it's just you going, fine, good sailing. Oh and perhaps leave the VHF and Sat phone with us. The irony is that you are preaching to someone who recently embarked on what many would call a foolish endeavor in an open boat. The difference here is I had done the home work, the prep. Capsize drills, recovery, navigation, self rescue. We tested our boat and made sure it was safe. We prepared our food, water, clothing, etc, meticulously. By all reports the FH is not prepped, and HR is not prepared. The boat is made of the wrong materials with the wrong wiring and not one shred of common sense. His families lives will likely be on the line because of his shortcuts, again foolish, not noble.

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I am not pulling for the Rod because we all know how this is going to end. He'll be broke, facing a clean up fine, risking others skin to save his ass (if he ever gets going), lost his bike, possibly his mom, and all for what? If he's living the dream I am dreaming the wrong things. Boat, yes. Island life, yes. P.O.S. boat, no. No idea what I am doing, no. I could go on here. When it breaks up it will be amusing and sad all at once. I'll laugh and point but feel bad too.

And so far, all the dire predictions have died and are awaiting burial. But if I told you all that I was gonna leave Kobenhavn for North Amerika in an open boat with only a rock for a plotter, you pussies would all be calling the Coasties on my ass too. I believe they made it... Yet if some dumbass decides to do the ARC in a Hunter or BendyToy, nobody gets their panties in a bunch even though Ralph Nader already declared said vessel unsafe at any speed. It's a big ocean with tons of wrecks... How about those pros who keep sinking? WWW.gcaptain.com
I find it ironic that redviking, one of the most vocal critics of the voyage of the Cheese Scow has now become an ardent supporter of the FH debacle. At least Stowe built a seaworthy vessel that made a circumnavigation (sailing, drifting, whatever, he still did it) as well as a journey to South America and back. Stowe made several repairs to his vessel while on his epic journey and still managed to make it back. I doubt the FH will ever leave SF Bay and if it does, it won't get far into the Pacific until the inevitable tragedy strikes. So whats up with that shit Red???? Just because HR isn't shamelessly begging for fundage doesn't make FH anything more than a poorly conceived, poorly built piece o' shit. It has yet to sail under its own power and I doubt it ever will. The best thing that could happen is that it will sink into the mud in the delta somewhere and this little misadventure disguised as a dream will be mercifully over without loss of human life.

Hmmm... Yeah, add some sprouts, a soy, some grifting and a void Ho video and I would sing a different tune for sure... But in this case, its all speculation... HR may be crazy, but he has a ways to go before being Stowe crazy.... And now you think Anne was well built? How times have changed.

No Red, HR is definitely crazy. The schooner "Anne" may never win a beauty contest however it survived a trip around the world (not to mention a collision with a much larger vessel), the Southern Ocean, rounding Cape Horn, a round trip from the East coast of the US to South America and back and it can side slip in a sacred fashion with a hold full of Parmigiano Reggiano, firewood, other foodstuffs and probably Jimmy Hoffa's body, while carrying a full complement of nutritious bean sprouts. Please tell me how you define "well built". The FH will never do any of those things, no matter what HR thinks it will do and no matter how many boats he looked at before designing and building the Shitrock Barge. That isn't speculation, that is fact.

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The idea that HR is admirable because he has managed to sort of complete his folly and that it has floated longer than anyone thought it would is just touchy-feely nonsense.

 

I said a while back that if it was a cabin in the woods, maybe (although even that concept smacks of Ted Kazinsky) but being a "boat" makes it an entirely different and far less acceptable proposition.

 

The guy is a nut job and others are going to get the bill to pick up after him.

 

Getting to his age and still having ZERO judgement is not admirable.

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Actually I am with RedV on my opinion of Reid Stowe as well. He got very lucky. He came at his little adventure with more going for it than HR but only just. Reid's little adventure had plenty of opportunity to go badly. People who go out totally unprepared and have to be rescued are not admirable. They are prizes that Darwin didn't get to collect! Reid got away with it, HR, I think will be less fortunate.

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And so far, all the dire predictions have died and are awaiting burial.

 

Well, yes and no. I have not made a big list of each and every dire prediction, but what this guy has done is to have built a giant raft. So far, he has been blessed by good weather. I can't say what the fall will bring where he is, but coming into the fall here in the northeast, there are going to be some good storms. If he was here he might have another month to get that thing going or pull it out.

 

If a good storm comes, its going to drag its anchor. If he brings it to a marina and ties up, and it breaks apart, its going to damage other boats. My bet is he knows all this and is just trying to figure out what to do. He has to know the clock is ticking.

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So far the water phase of Flyin' Hawaiian's adventure is evolving in a predictable manner.

As the dream gets strong-armed into submission by the slow-dawning reality, Hot Rod is retreating into the relative safety of shallow water and the comfort of invisibility. It's going to be a mud-flat condo in some delta backwater.

 

All that talk about living the high-life in the South Pacific was just a cover -- a way to shut people up and get them to leave him alone.

 

Master this, master that...

Hardly! We've all seen the evidence.

Master B.S. artist.

That's it.

 

From my cynical imagination, it's more likely to explode in a meth-cooking accident than it is to fall apart from ocean stresses.

 

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I find it ironic that some of the same people who were saying we are all armchair sailors are posting here on Saturday, during sailing season. :huh: I have an excuse, I work most weekends! :(

 

I can post from my boat...

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And so far, all the dire predictions have died and are awaiting burial. But if I told you all that I was gonna leave Kobenhavn for North Amerika in an open boat with only a rock for a plotter, you pussies would all be calling the Coasties on my ass too. I believe they made it... Yet if some dumbass decides to do the ARC in a Hunter or BendyToy, nobody gets their panties in a bunch even though Ralph Nader already declared said vessel unsafe at any speed. It's a big ocean with tons of wrecks... How about those pros who keep sinking? ...

 

Yep, including mine... however that doesn't make the basis for prediction is totally wrong. Rust never sleeps, and neither does creeping sogginess. Cheap-ass plywood undersized and under braced does not suddenly become stronger by have a coat of epoxy & out-body tape on the seams (or maybe it was drywall tape). The question remains not -if- but when.

 

All that aside, my objection to HotRod and his attempted adventure is not calling himself a boatbuilder but that somebody else is getting stuck with the bills, and somebody else is going to have to clean it up when it falls apart (which it will even if it had remained parked on dry land); I hope that somebody doesn't have to put themselves at risk rescuing HR and his presumed kinfolk.

 

I would give HR all credit for having initiative, imagination, and the willingness to keep fixing problems as the keep coming up.'The fact that he's pursuing a dream is good. But the fact he's chasing a dream on somebody else's dime makes it far less than admirable IMHO.

 

And I want to get one of those rock plotters. You have to hang it from string though, right?

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I am not pulling for the Rod because we all know how this is going to end. He'll be broke, facing a clean up fine, risking others skin to save his ass (if he ever gets going), lost his bike, possibly his mom, and all for what? If he's living the dream I am dreaming the wrong things. Boat, yes. Island life, yes. P.O.S. boat, no. No idea what I am doing, no. I could go on here. When it breaks up it will be amusing and sad all at once. I'll laugh and point but feel bad too.

And so far, all the dire predictions have died and are awaiting burial. But if I told you all that I was gonna leave Kobenhavn for North Amerika in an open boat with only a rock for a plotter, you pussies would all be calling the Coasties on my ass too. I believe they made it... Yet if some dumbass decides to do the ARC in a Hunter or BendyToy, nobody gets their panties in a bunch even though Ralph Nader already declared said vessel unsafe at any speed. It's a big ocean with tons of wrecks... How about those pros who keep sinking? WWW.gcaptain.com
I find it ironic that redviking, one of the most vocal critics of the voyage of the Cheese Scow has now become an ardent supporter of the FH debacle. At least Stowe built a seaworthy vessel that made a circumnavigation (sailing, drifting, whatever, he still did it) as well as a journey to South America and back. Stowe made several repairs to his vessel while on his epic journey and still managed to make it back. I doubt the FH will ever leave SF Bay and if it does, it won't get far into the Pacific until the inevitable tragedy strikes. So whats up with that shit Red???? Just because HR isn't shamelessly begging for fundage doesn't make FH anything more than a poorly conceived, poorly built piece o' shit. It has yet to sail under its own power and I doubt it ever will. The best thing that could happen is that it will sink into the mud in the delta somewhere and this little misadventure disguised as a dream will be mercifully over without loss of human life.

Hmmm... Yeah, add some sprouts, a soy, some grifting and a void Ho video and I would sing a different tune for sure... But in this case, its all speculation... HR may be crazy, but he has a ways to go before being Stowe crazy.... And now you think Anne was well built? How times have changed.

 

Red, say what you will about the cheese scow, but I sailed on Anne, that may have been a slow boat, but it was a heavy, well-built boat. Sure, there were some saddled dead horses, and a little decay here and there, but that boat was rock solid.

 

I docked near Anne and saw storms that tossed every docked boat there around like styrofoam cups, except for John Krevvy's 133 foot Lightship Frying Pan and Stowe's boat. In fact, it moved so little I was thought for a while that she had her keel in the mud.

 

I sailed on Anne, pulled sheets on Anne and I would have no safety concerns in taking my wife and children on that boat. But I wouldn't put my loved ones on the Flyin' Hawaiian unless maybe it was hauled somewhere outside of Tuba City, Arizona and converted to a Snow Cone stand by the side of the road, and even then I would make sure it wasn't about to rain.

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All that aside, my objection to HotRod and his attempted adventure is not calling himself a boatbuilder but that somebody else is getting stuck with the bills, and somebody else is going to have to clean it up when it falls apart (which it will even if it had remained parked on dry land); I hope that somebody doesn't have to put themselves at risk rescuing HR and his presumed kinfolk.

 

I would give HR all credit for having initiative, imagination, and the willingness to keep fixing problems as the keep coming up.'The fact that he's pursuing a dream is good. But the fact he's chasing a dream on somebody else's dime makes it far less than admirable IMHO.

 

I appreciate your concern, but I haven't put a single dime into his Hot Rod's endeavor yet, nor do I plan to.

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All that aside, my objection to HotRod and his attempted adventure is not calling himself a boatbuilder but that somebody else is getting stuck with the bills, and somebody else is going to have to clean it up when it falls apart (which it will even if it had remained parked on dry land); I hope that somebody doesn't have to put themselves at risk rescuing HR and his presumed kinfolk.

 

I would give HR all credit for having initiative, imagination, and the willingness to keep fixing problems as the keep coming up.'The fact that he's pursuing a dream is good. But the fact he's chasing a dream on somebody else's dime makes it far less than admirable IMHO.

 

I appreciate your concern, but I haven't put a single dime into his Hot Rod's endeavor yet, nor do I plan to.

 

 

-shrug- you know what I meant

 

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I find it ironic that some of the same people who were saying we are all armchair sailors are posting here on Saturday, during sailing season. :huh: I have an excuse, I work most weekends! :(

 

I can post from my boat...

 

I just got in from a race... exciting one too, although for the wrong reasons unfortunately

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Actually I am with RedV on my opinion of Reid Stowe as well. He got very lucky. He came at his little adventure with more going for it than HR but only just. Reid's little adventure had plenty of opportunity to go badly. People who go out totally unprepared and have to be rescued are not admirable. They are prizes that Darwin didn't get to collect! Reid got away with it, HR, I think will be less fortunate.

Perhaps. Having done the long beach Hawaii run myself, I cannot recall a more boring 19 days at sea. Period. Can be so docile... HeY look, that crazy VET turned down an AMVER and mad it back sans keel. What is worse? We are all so quick to judge. I would have been pro Reid if it wasn't for the sacred side slipping crap and other nonsense. If a bundle of coke bottles can make it, so may HR. Calling for someone to rat on HR to the Coasties goes beyond my limits as a mariner. I wouldn't take a Morgan from Miami to the Bahamas, but plenty of folks have. Kill the drama... Let him do what he needs to do. Tania Aebi didn't know how to navigate, nobody called the Coasties. Reid, well Reid did the cat thing... Let HR fail or not on his own terms sans SA Patrol... Just saying...

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Where the hell is the boat?

That's the number one question. It's been two days and no pictures. Time to send Clean on an assignment. Maybe the Boatpix guy can help out. He sure likes getting way closer than he needs to be.

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This just in:

 

(HR didn't make the cut)

 

 

 

2013 Darwin Awards

2013 DARWIN AWARDS

You've been waiting for them with bated breath, so without further ado, here are the 2013 Darwin Awards:



Eighth Place

In Detroit, a 41-year-old man got stuck and drowned in two feet of water after squeezing head first through an 18-inch-wide sewer grate to retrieve his car keys.





Seventh Place

A 49-year-old San Francisco stockbroker, who "totally zoned when he ran", accidentally jogged off a 100-foot high cliff on his daily run.

Sixth Place

While at the beach, Daniel Jones, 21, dug an 8 foot hole for protection from the wind and had been sitting in a beach chair at the bottom, when it collapsed, burying him beneath 5 feet of sand. People on the beach used their hands and shovels trying to get him out but could not reach him. It took rescue workers using heavy equipment almost an hour to free him. Jones was pronounced dead at a hospital.

Fifth Place

Santiago Alvarado, 24, was killed as he fell through the ceiling of a bicycle shop he was burglarizing. Death was caused when the long flashlight he had placed in his mouth to keep his hands free rammed into the base of his skull as he hit the floor.





Fourth Place

Sylvester Briddell, Jr., 26, was killed as he won a bet with friends who said he would not put a revolver loaded with four bullets into his mouth and pull the trigger.




Third Place

After stepping around a marked police patrol car parked at the front door, a man walked into H&J Leather & Firearms intent on robbing the store. The shop was full of customers and a uniformed officer was standing at the counter. Upon seeing the officer, the would-be robber announced a hold-up and fired a few wild shots from a target pistol.

The officer and a clerk promptly returned fire, and several customers also drew their guns and fired. The robber was pronounced dead at the scene by Paramedics. Crime scene investigators located 47 expended cartridge cases in the shop. The subsequent autopsy revealed 23 gunshot wounds. Ballistics identified rounds from 7 different weapons. No one else was hurt.

HONORABLE MENTION

Paul Stiller, 47, and his wife Bonnie were bored just driving around at 2 A.M. so they lit a quarter stick of dynamite to toss out the window to see what would happen. Apparently they failed to notice that the window was closed.

RUNNER UP

Kerry Bingham had been drinking with several friends when one of them said they knew a person who had bungee-jumped from a local bridge in the middle of traffic. The conversation grew more excited, and at least 10 men trooped along the walkway of the bridge at 4:30 AM. Upon arrival at the midpoint of the bridge, they discovered that no one had brought a bungee rope. Bingham, who had continued drinking, volunteered and pointed out that a coil of lineman's cable lay nearby. They secured one end around Bingham's leg and then tied the other to the bridge. His fall lasted 40 feet before the cable tightened and tore his foot off at the ankle. He miraculously survived his fall into the icy water and was rescued by two nearby fishermen. Bingham's foot was never located.

AND THE WINNER IS....

Zookeeper Friedrich Riesfeldt ( Paderborn , Germany ) fed his constipated elephant 22 doses of animal laxative and more than a bushel of berries, figs and prunes before the plugged-up pachyderm finally got relief. Investigators say ill-fated Friedrich, 46, was attempting to give the ailing elephant an olive oil enema when the relieved beast unloaded.

The sheer force of the elephant's unexpected defecation knocked Mr. Riesfeldt to the ground where he struck his head on a rock as the elephant continued to evacuate 200 pounds of dung on top of him. It seems to be just one of those freak accidents that proves... 'sh*t happens'




IT ALWAYS SEEMS IMPORTANT TO THANK THESE PEOPLE FOR REMOVING THEMSELVES FROM THE GENE POOL.

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All that aside, my objection to HotRod and his attempted adventure is not calling himself a boatbuilder but that somebody else is getting stuck with the bills, and somebody else is going to have to clean it up when it falls apart (which it will even if it had remained parked on dry land); I hope that somebody doesn't have to put themselves at risk rescuing HR and his presumed kinfolk.

 

I would give HR all credit for having initiative, imagination, and the willingness to keep fixing problems as the keep coming up.'The fact that he's pursuing a dream is good. But the fact he's chasing a dream on somebody else's dime makes it far less than admirable IMHO.

 

I appreciate your concern, but I haven't put a single dime into his Hot Rod's endeavor yet, nor do I plan to.

 

I'll bet some of your tax $$$ end up paying to clean up the mess it leaves behind.

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<p>NEW PIX! We're back from our mini-vacation and, as reported, FH is now anchored off China Camp.  However, it really is not in the sheltered China camp anchorage.  It's a bit farther south and much father offshore - - I'd guess almost a mile.  I've tried to mark it on a Google Earth shot below.  In this position he is much more exposed to wind and, especially, chop than he was before.  He's also much closer to the shipping channel, as you can see from the wide shot</p>

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<div>Shortly after I found them, I was lucky enough to see HR drive up in the Bayliner (<em>aka</em> FH Jr.)  He tied up to the starboard quarter and handed up a few bags of groceries.  there then follow a Keystone Cops routine where Rod and one other person attempted to lead FH jr. around and, I think, attempt to berth it in the tunnel between the hulls (where it had been in the previous anchorage.)  I watched fwhile  they pushed and tugged with two dock lines, a couple of boathooks, a deck brush and a 2x4 and the the Bayliner swung every way but into the wind and where they were trying to put it.  Several times the Bayliner started to pound - - <em><strong>hard</strong></em> - - on one of the rudders (which stick out a good 3 feet behind the hulls, and at one point Rod got one of the lines massively fouled on one of these same rudders. Several times they let the boat trail 50 yards or so downwind of FH and I thought they were going to lose it. I finally left after half an hour, and they were still wrestling.</div>

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<div>I'm not saying Rod and his crew are clowns.  The Bayliner is a large-ish, heavy boat. It obviously has terrible sailing characteristics - - appearing to fall off and pivot around the lower unit any time they gave it half a chance - - and it was bouncing around pretty good in the chop.  Rather, this whole episode just illustrates how difficult this new location is.  If disaster doesn't strike, I'm guessing they'll have to move again soon.</div>

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<div>Finally check the rigging in the last picture.  it's looking a lot worse for wear. There's something that looks sorta like a furled sail attached to the forestay, but the lines attached to it don't make any sense.  That boom  (gaff?) that angles up between the two masts seems to be out of position at the top, and there are loose lines everywhere bowing in the wind.</div>

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<div>I'll try to take another look tomorrow, but this new location involves driving about 3 miles.  In the old one, I could just walk up the street 3 houses to see FH at anchor and check if FH jr. was at the gas dock.</div>

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Great info Spof!!! The pix, however, seem to be of the traditional fog bank in a snow storm variety from what I can see.

 

 

ETA Never mind!

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Sorry. I started to type before I realized I hadn't uploaded the pix, so I posted it unfinished to save while I did that. Now the pix are there, but the editor seems to have now included all sorts of html tags??? no idea why.

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Are they wearing pfd's? Kinda looks like it

Yes, both Rod and the other (Mrs. Rod?) were wearing those big puffy legal-type PFDs. Big improvement over last week. Though at one point in the battle of the Bayliner, Rod was down on the lowest step over the rudder with his off

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Cheers Spoffo :)

 

Fuck me, that rig looks a mess.

 

Note the size of the wave that's next to the FH in the last pic. I wonder if things are starting to come adrift. He's going to be taking ship wash from the beam as well.

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Thanks Spoffo!

 

I have a tee shirt that says "Its only funny until someone gets hurt - Then its hilarious!" Looks like a small number of white caps, so about 15 knots wind and a little chop, and they are already having a battle. I think this is about to get hilarious. Glad to see they are at least smart enough to put on a PFD. We can enjoy this without blood.

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<p>NEW PIX! We're back from our mini-vacation and, as reported, FH is now anchored off China Camp.  However, it really is not in the sheltered China camp anchorage.  It's a bit farther south and much father offshore - - I'd guess almost a mile.  I've tried to mark it on a Google Earth shot below.  In this position he is much more exposed to wind and, especially, chop than he was before.  He's also much closer to the shipping channel, as you can see from the wide shot</p>

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<div>Shortly after I found them, I was lucky enough to see HR drive up in the Bayliner (<em>aka</em> FH Jr.)  He tied up to the starboard quarter and handed up a few bags of groceries.  there then follow a Keystone Cops routine where Rod and one other person attempted to lead FH jr. around and, I think, attempt to berth it in the tunnel between the hulls (where it had been in the previous anchorage.)  I watched fwhile  they pushed and tugged with two dock lines, a couple of boathooks, a deck brush and a 2x4 and the the Bayliner swung every way but into the wind and where they were trying to put it.  Several times the Bayliner started to pound - - <em><strong>hard</strong></em> - - on one of the rudders (which stick out a good 3 feet behind the hulls, and at one point Rod got one of the lines massively fouled on one of these same rudders. Several times they let the boat trail 50 yards or so downwind of FH and I thought they were going to lose it. I finally left after half an hour, and they were still wrestling.</div>

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<div>I'm not saying Rod and his crew are clowns.  The Bayliner is a large-ish, heavy boat. It obviously has terrible sailing characteristics - - appearing to fall off and pivot around t