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My guide to Ocean Cruising routes gives the recommended departure times of October to November.

 

I wonder if he is aiming for that window this year?

 

Maybe he can get whatshername, the California girl who did just that in the Southern Ocean and had to be rescued?

 

Edit - Abby Sunderland; he should hire her on as Captain, give her the Harley..

good god please no, that clan has faded into obscurity and need to be left there.

 

Surprised they did not move it to the more protected region at China Cove.

 

tic toc, tick tock...

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I can assure you, nothing was added to The Rod's replies.   Perhaps sharing my reverence for The Rod, as well as my deep appreciation for the journalistic accomplishments of my Sailing Anarchy predece

And wtf happened to lil'murray.......?

Guy did not grow a vagin! Mr. Hot is full of merde! The only place Mr. Hot has seen a double hurricane is in La Nouvelle Orléans. 

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Welp, got to give the guy credit. It may not have been such an excellent idea from the get-go, but just look how far he got!

 

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Got to give her some props, man. It's not the diet plan most of us would choose, but she hasn't actually exploded yet, so I guess it's technically a total success.

 

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"Don't feed the bears", huh? Fuck you people and your fascist rules! I do what I want.

 

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Now imagine when he actually hoists sail and tries sailing.

 

Winter IS Coming, and HR is no Tywin Lannister.

 

That wins the Dennis Miller award for obscure references.

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Welp, got to give the guy credit. It may not have been such an excellent idea from the get-go, but just look how far he got!

 

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Got to give her some props, man. It's not the diet plan most of us would choose, but she hasn't actually exploded yet, so I guess it's technically a total success.

 

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"Don't feed the bears", huh? Fuck you people and your fascist rules! I do what I want.

 

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+1 and ofcourse he doesn't need a helmet.

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Uh oh. What kinds of ships go by, and how fast?

Shipping Channel to Stockton, big ships, 15 mph I believe is the speed limit for the unescorted ships. Even at that speed they can throw a good wake into the anchorage at China Camp.

That answers my question. Wakes will be big enough to toss his tiny ship.

 

Lag bolt stress test time.

 

I repeat: uh oh.

It's not the ships, it's the Vallejo ferry that is the problem. It's a heavy, steel catamaran with twin turbines and it buzzes along at a very rapid clip, kicking off a signifiant wake. And it goes by him a couple times a day...

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HE'S MOVED AGAIN!

I woke up this morning, and there was FH, right outside my window. He wasn't there at dusk last night, so I assume he moved it around from China Camp at first light today. A quickie map and 2 pix follow. As far as I can see everything looks pretty much the same, though after saturday's adventures he seems to have given up on the docking in the tunnel idea and is just tying FH Jr. alongside.

 

But here's the best news: In this position, I think I'll be able to get much closer for scope observations and pix. I'm guessing he's about a mile south of the marina, and that will put him much closer to the footpath over by the new Target or possibly the Rod & Gun club (which is by the bridge just out of frame to the right in the wide shot.) I'll try to get over there this afternoon and see what I can see.

New FH position Aug 5

FH Aug 5 AM wide

FH Aug 5 AM CU

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Could be he wanted to be close to the new Target and Rod-n-Gun for provisioning, pretty high end though. No Wal-Mart or Dollar General around those parts?

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Did the move get him away from big wakes?

Yup. He's much farther from the shipping channel. It's an area with a lot of shelter from waves but quite exposed to typical afternoon winds. In fact it used to be a popular spot with wind surfers for that reason. (Though now that kites are more popular than the old sailboards, those guys seemed to have moved over to the cove by Peacock gap - - north of FH's original position on my map.)

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At what point do you think it is gonna get through his skull that this is just a folly and he aint gonna get anywhere?? You would think that the fact that there are NO OTHER BOATS anchored anywhere near his location would be a clew.

 

Also, has he made any improvements since he left the dock?? I want details on the fitout damn it... Otherwise we are just looking at pictures of a guy floating around on a barge.....

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BTW spoffo Thanks for the updates... above meant in jest and by no means should be taken seriously by anyone taking their personal time to provide us with the details of a guy floating around on a barge.... Hotrod needs to chime in and give us the dirt......

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HE'S ON THE MOVE AGAIN! 12:30 and He appears to be towing back toward the marina. (Looks like he was waiting for the tide to brave the mud flats.) I'm going down there to watch the fun. Stay tuned

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Excellent reporting, keep it up! Maybe he's trying to save the motorcycle!

 

My chart shows he was anchored in 3-4 feet of water. And that it's a high tide right now, after a low low this morning:

 

(Point Richmond):

08/05 Mon 06:04 AM -0.16 L

08/05 Mon 12:58 PM 5.03 H

08/05 Mon 05:55 PM 2.6 L

08/05 Mon 11:42 PM 6.19 H

 

I wonder what depth sounding gear he has?

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See how great this is that HR is doing well! Floating on the lines as well.

 

I think its super to be able to watch a longer drawn out story, than to have had the FH break up immediately on launch.

 

Its like a novel, vs a comic strip. (insert joke here)

 

Thanks Spoffo!

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HE'S ON THE MOVE AGAIN! 12:30 and He appears to be towing back toward the marina. (Looks like he was waiting for the tide to brave the mud flats.) I'm going down there to watch the fun. Stay tuned

So did he fix the rudders? or is he using the 2/4 as a tiller still??

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Rod's Tow to Nowhere - (Geez. I've gotta get some work done some time, but . . . . ) So, HR and his crew had themselves a little adventure today, and I was able to watch. I also took some pix which I'll eventually post, but for now just the rough map below. Besides, I'm not sure he's actually anchored in his new position yet. I'll check in a couple of hours.

 

It started around 12:30 (high tide) when he appeared to be towing toward the marina. It's hard to figure what his goal was, because there's no room for him in there right now. His old spot at the end of the "A" dock is now occupied by a nice-looking (and presumably rent-paying) catamaran. In any case, he never got there. FH appeared to run aground just to the east of the first pair of markers for the channel into the marina. (This is one of the most popular spots to ground a boat in the whole damn bay.) So HR drops his to line and runs FH Jr. back to the big boat and ties alongside. He and Mrs. Rod fuss around with the starboard rudder, which appears to be what hit the mud. Eventually it swings up (they appear to be hinged pop-up rudders, sorta like a sunfish) and he FH starts to drift. For about 15 minutes they drifted to the northeast, sort of parallel to the seawall of the marina, while the two of them walked fore and aft, checking the tow hookup, possibly considering dropping the anchor, messing with something back by the rudder and the Bayliner all the while skirting the edge of what is a very shallow mudbank.

 

After a while, Rod apparently realized that he was headed toward trouble, jumped back in the Bayliner and picked up the tow again. However, for the next 15 minute or so, he would just pull the boat a little upwind and then idle the motorboat while he let it continue to drift to the east. At one point I thought he was maybe trying to drift back to his original spot behind East Marin Island. While this was going on, he appeared to make several calls on a cellphone.

 

Eventually, he powered-up and started to tow with a purpose. For about half a mile, he appeared to be headed back toward where he was anchored this morning, but then he swung around and headed toward the mouth of San Rafael Creek. Eventually he reached a point where I could only follow his mastheads over the roofs of houses over that way, but it look like FH stopped and swung around into the wind about where I've marked it on the map. If so, he's just about blocking the mouth of the canal, which goes into the Yacht Club and a couple of marinas downtown. If so, someone in authority is going to have a very pointed conversation with him real soon. There's a hill in the neighborhood next door where I think I can get a good overhead view of just where he is. I'll check it out on toward low tide.

 

Meanwhile, here's the map;

 

Tow To nowehere Aug 5

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Thanks again Spoffo!

 

Trying to get in the marina when there's no space suggests he may be realising he's up shit creek and the paddle's drifting away. I wonder if it was an effort to get the bike off?

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I wonder if it was an effort to get the bike off?

Could be. when I put the scope on there this morning, HR spent quite some time fussing with something on the bike.

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If he wants a real boat, he can get it for free. The Schooner Aldbaran, 70 footer, is up for grabs. This is the boat tht hit the rocks and sank at the Richmond Harbor entrance on July 4, 2013. It was refloated on July 23 and towed a short ditance to the lee side of Brooks Island, near El Cerrito, Ca. It is too much work for the elderly owner. Here is a message from the owner, who also said he plans to move to Florida:

 

To all of our Go Fund Me and Facebook friends: Our Schooner Aldebaran is sitting in a mud pocket in back of Brooks Island, held by two buoyed anchors, fore and aft, and we are prepaed to sign the pink over to anyone who will take responsibility for her restoration. She is floating.

 

The boat can be pumped out in two hours using two of the three pumps and maintained afloat with just one pump and can be towed at that point. We will not officially abandon Aldebaran until pressed by the Coast Guard. Thus we hope to give time for a potential new owner to step forward.

 

You donors and others who have followed us on these sites have our great appreciation. We have put up a good fight and your donations have helped a lot. But we cannot go any further with her repair.

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Could be he wanted to be close to the new Target and Rod-n-Gun for provisioning, pretty high end though. No Wal-Mart or Dollar General around those parts?

 

Dude...this is Marin County we're talking about! Target (pronounced Tar-che) is SERIOUSLY low end!!!!

 

And MANY MANY thanks for the updates!!!!

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Damn

 

More that a month in the water, and his entire travels add up to about what would be a nice day sail in a decent sized dinghy (without the bike or the grill).

 

At this rate he might make it as far South as Redwood City by next June, if the weather and his luck both hold.

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I checked around 5:00, very close to low tide, and FH was floating very comfortably a little south and east from where I put him on the picture above. It's certainly the best anchorage he's had in terms of being sheltered from both wind and waves. While I was watching, HR came out and checked the depth with his boathook. He clearly had at least 3+ feet to the waterline. He's just outside the main channel into the San Rafael Canal, so maybe he can stay there for a while (though I still wonder about his holding tank situation.) I'll try to get some pictures in his new home tomorrow.

 

Meanwhile, the pix below are from the "Tow to Nowhere" this noon. The most interesting aspect is that he was finally close enough to shore (sometimes too close!) that I could get some good detail on FH and how it's holding up. I photoshopped one to really punch up the detail on the back porch, so you can see the bike, the BBQ and the makeshift tiller on the port rudder. (Hint: if you open the picture in my album, you can then right-click on it and select "large" to see the full resolution version.)

 

You can also see why the rigging on the mizzen has seemed confusing: a) the "mattress" that appeared to be supporting the boom is actually his dinghy and is not holding up anything. There IS a mizzen sheet rigged, but it's pretty light and is led to a little swiveling jam cleat on the aft end of the porch roof c) for some reason, he's secured the boom and sail with a massive amount of heavy line tied to one of the chain plates on the starboard side. When he's at a distance, this is the only line you can see on this sail. Moreover, he's tied it up in such a way that it sorta looks like one of those monster 4 or 5 part main sheet arrangements you see on big racing boats. It isn't. B) Enjoy the pix.

 

Maybe aground working On rudder Aug 5

Drifting thru slot Aug 5 noon

Close To shore detail

Off To Her next home

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Is it possible the FH had some issues in the waves and desperately needed a safe harbour or shallow water to reduce the risk of sinking, hence the midnight manoeuvres?

 

Thanks for the updates Spoffo, great work!

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Reads like an epic damage control effort is gearing up. It has to be getting stressful, and these location changes are chewing up gas, time and energy. He needs to be fitting out, but instead, the rig seems to be merrily tearing itself apart. Sleeping and eating are basics that cannot be ignored for long lest a big mistake occur. Even without such prosaic problems, a good storm could lay waste to this dream in a matter of frightening minutes.


Poor guy. How can this end well for HR? I guess he could be on his Bayliner (ugliest boat ever?) with his family watching his motorcycle beat the FH to the bottom, and not in the bilges trying to restart the pumps salvaged from the Bounty.

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Spoffo,

 

I don't know if you noticed, but in your first picture above, you actually managed to get the Golden Gate, Bay, and San Rafael bridges in one shot. Well done.

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Spoffo,

 

I don't know if you noticed, but in your first picture above, you actually managed to get the Golden Gate, Bay, and San Rafael bridges in one shot. Well done.

GGB? -not

 

Maybe he's talking about the top pic, where the trawler is in the background. Far in the background on the right side of the pic is a tall tower, which I guess could be part of the GG bridge. But I'm a Florida boy, been there only twice and don't remember where everything is.

 

Thanks again, Spoffo.

 

And can someone please get Spoffo a boat?

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Is it possible the FH had some issues in the waves and desperately needed a safe harbour or shallow water to reduce the risk of sinking, hence the midnight manoeuvres?

 

He didn't seem to be having problems the evening of the 4th (near China Camp). My pics are from a point-and-shoot camera during a circle around FH and FH Jr. Two people were working on the bow and a couple of people in the interior seemed to be in good spirits: smiled, waved back, etc.

 

We weren't really paying attention to the depth but one of us (after the fact) recalled it being around 35 ft.

 

http://photos.pierb.com/Sailing/Misc/Flyin-Hawaiian-4-Aug-2013/

(someone feel free to repost here- I don't have the bandwidth to do that right now. Plus, the ones there are the full res copies probably too big for the forum)

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The jib is being stowed in its "working" location... There was a connecting shackle/turnbuckle at that location in one of the earlier pictures posted that prevents the hanks from sliding any lower on the forestay. This probably means the jib sheets will be led to blocks at cabin rooftop level. I wouldn't like to have to drop & secure it in a blow... working on tiptoe on the bow of this thing in any kind of seaway doesn't appeal to me!

 

Glad to hear he was happy the niught of the 4th... To me, it appears the slack in the rigging seems much improved in recent photos. Only a couple of drooping lines, & looks like they are running rigging whereas the standing stuff seems tight. Doing better than I expected, as usual.

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Spoffo,

 

I don't know if you noticed, but in your first picture above, you actually managed to get the Golden Gate, Bay, and San Rafael bridges in one shot. Well done.

 

Cover of Cruising World baby!

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Is it possible the FH had some issues in the waves and desperately needed a safe harbour or shallow water to reduce the risk of sinking, hence the midnight manoeuvres?

 

He didn't seem to be having problems the evening of the 4th (near China Camp). My pics are from a point-and-shoot camera during a circle around FH and FH Jr. Two people were working on the bow and a couple of people in the interior seemed to be in good spirits: smiled, waved back, etc.

 

We weren't really paying attention to the depth but one of us (after the fact) recalled it being around 35 ft.

 

http://photos.pierb.com/Sailing/Misc/Flyin-Hawaiian-4-Aug-2013/

(someone feel free to repost here- I don't have the bandwidth to do that right now. Plus, the ones there are the full res copies probably too big for the forum)

 

Ear Ya Go - desent Pic of someone trying to get the door open :o:lol::lol::lol::lol:

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Is it parallax error, or in the shot of the boat's stern, does it appear that the hulls are spreading apart at the bottom, and that there's a curvature of the aft deck?

 

 

Looked a bit that way to me too.

 

... To me, it appears the slack in the rigging seems much improved in recent photos. Only a couple of drooping lines, & looks like they are running rigging whereas the standing stuff seems tight. Doing better than I expected, as usual.

 

Hmmm... shroud vs lag bolt. Which will win? Or will a chainplate be a spoiler?

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Is it possible the FH had some issues in the waves and desperately needed a safe harbour or shallow water to reduce the risk of sinking, hence the midnight manoeuvres?

 

He didn't seem to be having problems the evening of the 4th (near China Camp). My pics are from a point-and-shoot camera during a circle around FH and FH Jr. Two people were working on the bow and a couple of people in the interior seemed to be in good spirits: smiled, waved back, etc.

 

We weren't really paying attention to the depth but one of us (after the fact) recalled it being around 35 ft.

 

http://photos.pierb.com/Sailing/Misc/Flyin-Hawaiian-4-Aug-2013/

(someone feel free to repost here- I don't have the bandwidth to do that right now. Plus, the ones there are the full res copies probably too big for the forum)

 

 

Thanks for the pics and update. This pic reminds me very much of an old salt at a marine store who, upon learning what I was doing with a little powerboat, got this very concerned look on his face and said, "I wouldn't do that."

 

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If was the warden of San Quentin, I'd be thinking HR was going to try to spring somebody. Maybe Charlynn Mansion?

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Is it possible the FH had some issues in the waves and desperately needed a safe harbour or shallow water to reduce the risk of sinking, hence the midnight manoeuvres?

 

He didn't seem to be having problems the evening of the 4th (near China Camp). My pics are from a point-and-shoot camera during a circle around FH and FH Jr. Two people were working on the bow and a couple of people in the interior seemed to be in good spirits: smiled, waved back, etc.

 

We weren't really paying attention to the depth but one of us (after the fact) recalled it being around 35 ft.

 

http://photos.pierb.com/Sailing/Misc/Flyin-Hawaiian-4-Aug-2013/

(someone feel free to repost here- I don't have the bandwidth to do that right now. Plus, the ones there are the full res copies probably too big for the forum)

 

Ear Ya Go - desent Pic of someone trying to get the door open :o:lol::lol::lol::lol:

HIhaters.jpg

 

That's the best pic so far - perfectly captures the hillbilly trailer park aspect of that thing. D'ya think he could get some dead appliances or the hulk of a rusty car on there somewhere - it would make it perfect.

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Wonder how they jibe the asym around the wind generator?

 

It's a Wind Generator ya just throw it in Reverse

 

And it Generates Wind = Keeps the Asym Full All Day

 

 

 

Speaking of the motorcycle it will be Good Great to have if he puts Ice Studs on the tires

 

I mean If he takes it out to Sea "It Will be HELL"

 

and If he makes it Anywhere "HELL Will Have Frozen Over" = Roll off MC and ride around Hell ;)

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Are there any interior shots of this boat posted anywhere?

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Several pics now look like the FH's hulls are bowing outwards.Adding the apparent difficulty opening the door suggests that we can discount parallax error.

 

 

Has anyone noticed there doesn't seem to be any rigging from the spreaders to the deck on the main mast? Not that it matters though, it doesn't look like it's going to survive long enough to hoist the sails fully.

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Damn, hats off to hotrod. It may not cross oceans, but he's living the life. All he needs to do now is remove all of that mast crap, buy the DDWFTTW machine(is that thing still for sale?), hook that big monster generator to a couple underwater props and he's good to go.

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Wonder who is coming out to clean the bottom?

:D

 

Has this guy ever sailed a boat in his life?

 

All the junk out on the "Lido Deck" I find bizarre at best.

 

And, yes, it seems there are no shrouds coming down from the spreaders.

But then there's no real running rigging or winches either.

 

Hopefully when this ends nobody gets hurt.

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Spoffo,

 

I don't know if you noticed, but in your first picture above, you actually managed to get the Golden Gate, Bay, and San Rafael bridges in one shot. Well done.

Would that I could. You can't see the Golden Gate from here. It's behind the Tiburon peninsula and Angel Island. What you're seeing are a) The Richmond - San Rafael bridge closest in and then and c) the two parts of the Bay Bridge - The SF to Treasure Is part (that looks a little like the GG) and the Treasure Is. to Oakland part which is less interesting.

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Finally, some shots allowing a more in depth analysis of his rig. At first I was certain that the wide beam on which the main is stepped would be the first rig failure. Now I predict the main mast will bend and break at the juncture of the lower shrouds and the upper shrouds that actually touch the spreaders (I'm at a loss for proper nomenclature) the first time he presses hard on a reach.

 

Anyone know if the mizzen is stepped on the cabin roof or deck stepped?

 

So many inexplicable lines!

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"The first time he presses hard on a reach" seems as far away as "when he's ready to step out on the Moon's surface." :wacko: I just can't imagine he will ever get close to actually moving that thing under sail.

 

By the way, please note that there are virtually NO life-lines or grab rails anywhere on FH. Their first encounter with waves of any consequence will be something they'll never forget.

 

The mizzen is stepped similarly to the mainmast: on a aluminum (or steel?) beam that spans the cabin roof supported only at the ends.

 

Also, if you haven't already, note the position of the two wheels. If he ever gets the steering gear working, he's going to have a wee bit of a visibility problem conning FH. Not only is about 80% of his forward visibility blocked, but I suspect he won't be able to see much of his sails from there either.

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Finally, some shots allowing a more in depth analysis of his rig.

 

That was one of the things I was focusing on when taking the pics.

 

A few notes:

Tender is on a block and tackle that appeared to be suspended from the top of the mizzen. Seems like an awkward way to do it.

 

The slanted spar seems to be supported fromt the aft by shrouds going to points port and starboard almost to the aft end of the toerail, adjustable only with turnbuckles. From the forward end, it seems to be supported by a an adjustable line running to a block most of the way up the mainmast and then down. This combination confuses me. Terminating at the base of the main mast like that, it looks more like cargo handling equipment than something you'd fly a sail on.

 

The wire supporting the front of the mizzen has something white on it- perhaps a very long length of whatever he's covering the bases of the shrouds with?

 

In short: very unconventional.

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Is it parallax error, or in the shot of the boat's stern, does it appear that the hulls are spreading apart at the bottom, and that there's a curvature of the aft deck?

 

No error. The back deck is sagging . . . . . . . so is the roof above it.

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Several pics now look like the FH's hulls are bowing outwards.Adding the apparent difficulty opening the door suggests that we can discount parallax error.

 

No, not possible... Look at the pics between the hulls... HR cleverly tied them together with cables... No doubt a trick he learned from his study of thousands of other cats...

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Actually, I just took a better look at the pic all zoomed up. That might be the best pic yet.

 

Take a look at the port rudder. There is a, well, rudder post I guess, sticking up from the rudder. Previously I thought it was a tiller that just hinged up. But a close look at the way it is connected to the rudder shows it seems to be a rudder post and there is no tiller attached. The connection to the rudder is not going to take much stress. I would think at the first start of weather or lee helm, it would twist right off. I guess HR is lucky he will never experience weather or lee helm, since that would require sails.

 

Next thing I see is the welcome mat on the, um, stairs to the back porch? Nice touch, very homey.

 

Then a quick look at the rig, without scrolling all over, shows he does have shrouds coming from just below the spreaders to the outer edge of the roof (er, top deck?). The angle is plenty wide, so I think the attachment point is likely to fail before the mast bends. Not that I know the scantleings of whatever he used for masts, or the type of cable he used for shrouds, or how the shrouds are attached to the roof/deck... Okay, I admit, its a blind guess, but I can join the fun too...

 

Then it occurred to me, is there a hatch somewhere? If they can't open the back door, and this thing goes down, can they get out? What if the gas can on the back porch ignites? I guess that is unlikely since gas is pretty stable, but still, there is a reason most people prefer diesel at sea... Neither drowning or burning is a pleasant way to go. Have you local guys got some sticks and marshmallows ready for toasting?

 

UPDATE... Is that a gas grill? Does he have propane on board?

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I "think" that there is a "door" on the starboard side cabin - or at least, it looks like some sort of full height hatch. It doesn't make sense, but that's nothing new here, right?

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The Co hired for the lifelines has been waiting at the Boat ramp after a Pre-Fitting-Out

 

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I "think" that there is a "door" on the starboard side cabin - or at least, it looks like some sort of full height hatch. It doesn't make sense, but that's nothing new here, right?

 

Yup. If you look back a few dozen pages, there are shots of the doors. One per side - full height sliding things, covers a set of stairs (how else would you reach the roof?) and a passageway in. No idea how you reach the roof if there is a sea running, though.

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I did a quick search for those pics of the inside of the hulls. I couldn't find them. Was that lilmurray? Anybody have those handy?

Those pics of the inside of the hulls might have been before lilmurray came on the scene but I suspect HR has him locked down in one of those hulls right now! Hopefully he has a video device to document his ordeal...

 

Outstanding work Spoffo but be careful or you might be spending some quality time with lilmuray! :lol:

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