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On 5/9/2019 at 5:00 AM, Bull City said:

It would be an improvement, but to the level of "not such a bad looking boat," I don't know. Now if you were to tear off the superstructure, leaving the raised foredeck, remove the monkey bars, and start over, it could end up OK. Maybe something like this:

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Yeah, the boat looks like shit.  But they're smiling, which is the reason to sail......

Writing from a country that owns a number of second hand submarines, it seems to me that giving such a craft to a drug cartel would be a great way to immediately bankrupt their operation.

No trailer, no problem.  Just drill through the bilge keels and slide the axle right in. A couple of fittings from Harbor Freight and your off to the scrap yard!

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On 5/8/2019 at 10:35 AM, SecondWindNC said:
On 5/7/2019 at 8:41 PM, Importunate Tom said:

I Admire generous headroom and railings that would actually catch a tall person instead of just ensuring headfirst immersion.

Unless you're amidships.

I admire the spacious roosting area for feathered friends.

And the careful use of a large expanse of white space to ensure the overall design isn't too "busy."

OK, I also admire the "OH SHIT" handles along the top of the white space.

I thought by the first few responses that I accidentally put this in mocking ads or something. Of course it's ugly, people, or I would not have brought it here to Admire.

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On 5/8/2019 at 3:00 PM, Bull City said:

It would be an improvement, but to the level of "not such a bad looking boat," I don't know. Now if you were to tear off the superstructure, leaving the raised foredeck, remove the monkey bars, and start over, it could end up OK. 

 

I think this is the offending member 

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6 hours ago, Importunate Tom said:

I thought by the first few responses that I accidentally put this in mocking ads or something. Of course it's ugly, people, or I would not have brought it here to Admire.

Sometimes I loose track of what thread I'm in. Is there a name for that?

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On 5/8/2019 at 12:00 PM, Bull City said:

It would be an improvement, but to the level of "not such a bad looking boat," I don't know.

I dealt with a high performance tuner once who had an expression - "Now it's up to lousy".

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2 hours ago, Importunate Tom said:

We've discussed most of Bolger's work in this thread but was this one covered?

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I'm not 100% sure it's ugly. It is odd. I Admire that.

I don't think "Samuel Clyde" does it justice. It should be called something like "Gwyneth Paltrow" or "Bulemic Tadpole".

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The superstructure has such brutalist vibes that it could easily be used as a third-world military patrol boat.

Perhaps those odd side-decks where the ice chest is sitting are reserved for weapons mounts?

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Either my eye, or the boat's scale, seemed off.  It looked like a 35 footer to me in the first pic.  Then I saw the humans in the other and they looked yuge.  Nearly comically, toy boatish.  So maybe its ~27'.   I think the small sliding pilot house door threw me off.  Now focused on the cooler and blue deck chair in the first pic and I've recalibrated my eyes.   

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2 hours ago, toddster said:

The superstructure has such brutalist vibes that it could easily be used as a third-world military patrol boat.

Perhaps those odd side-decks where the ice chest is sitting are reserved for weapons mounts?

I had that thought myself. Not as fast as a patrol boat would be, though.

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3 hours ago, SemiSalt said:
5 hours ago, toddster said:

The superstructure has such brutalist vibes that it could easily be used as a third-world military patrol boat.

Perhaps those odd side-decks where the ice chest is sitting are reserved for weapons mounts?

I had that thought myself. Not as fast as a patrol boat would be, though.

Hey, with the right weapons, it doesn't need to be all that fast.

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IIRC this particular Bolger design was conceived to make use of a power plant the client/builder/owner already had, a big stern drive. He wanted a relatively fast cruiser that would also be relatively economical....... IMHO all three goals would be better served with a different power plant, but hey there's human nature for you.

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7 hours ago, Steam Flyer said:

IIRC this particular Bolger design was conceived to make use of a power plant the client/builder/owner already had, a big stern drive. He wanted a relatively fast cruiser that would also be relatively economical....... IMHO all three goals would be better served with a different power plant, but hey there's human nature for you.

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Bill Garden fulfilled that same design brief way better IMO with Tlingit.

In that case the owner had an Easthope, not a stern drive so it was super economical as well.

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14 hours ago, Steam Flyer said:

Hey, with the right weapons, it doesn't need to be all that fast.

;)

 

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Did someone mention the right weapons

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37 minutes ago, Israel Hands said:

That looks like the ghost of Sam Kinison !

who he?

Norfolk Gun punts are mid 19th century design, they later developed into,,

 

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4 hours ago, SloopJonB said:

Possibly the most inexplicably famous "comedian" in history.

Does that include Carrot Top?

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Yep - CT was just kinda stupid and unfunny.

Kinnison was repulsively unfunny, offensively and disgustingly (and not in a good way) unfunny.

He was like listening to railroad cars screeching around a tight curve.

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19 hours ago, SloopJonB said:

Yep - CT was just kinda stupid and unfunny.

Kinnison was repulsively unfunny, offensively and disgustingly (and not in a good way) unfunny.

He was like listening to railroad cars screeching around a tight curve.

Matter of taste, I guess. I thought Sam Kinnison was very funny, although he didn't seem to come up with much new material.

Americans can be so-o vulgar

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Comedy is all a matter of taste. 

I never thought that Andy Kaufman was very funny.  Maybe his Latka Gravas character on Taxi was a little bit funny.  But that kind of provocateur schtick, where people can't tell he's joking them, is usually just painful and unfunny to me.  Sacha Baron Cohen can be funny in some things, but then he takes it way too far with the same Kaufman-like routine.

Redd Foxx was funny.  Rodney Dangerfield was funny.  To me, anyway.

How about this guy?  

 

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4 hours ago, Israel Hands said:

Comedy is all a matter of taste. 

I never thought that Andy Kaufman was very funny.  Maybe his Latka Gravas character on Taxi was a little bit funny.  But that kind of provocateur schtick, where people can't tell he's joking them, is usually just painful and unfunny to me.  Sacha Baron Cohen can be funny in some things, but then he takes it way too far with the same Kaufman-like routine.

Redd Foxx was funny.  Rodney Dangerfield was funny.  To me, anyway.

How about this guy?  

 

He's no Carrot Top.

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Kinnison used to be a preacher, believe it or not.  Mostly I remember him screaming and swearing. In that order. 

Dangerfield was funny.  He had that way of self mocking that really hit the mark.  He also looked a lot like my grandfather, who was not a comedian, which made it even funnier - for me anyways.

”Hey, you scratched my anchor!”

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Dangerfield was one of the best ever. "When I was born the doctor slapped my mother".

Carlin was the best. "what does Rich Chocolatey Goodness mean? No fuckin' chocolate". His death was a good career move though - towards the end he was just angry, bitter and not really funny anymore.

Ron White is a great one. "You can't fix stupid".

Russel Peters was hilarious but his shtick got tired. "Somebody gonna getta hurt real bad".

Danny Bhoy is really good - his bit about the Scottish diet was priceless.

Lots of others.

Currently I think Chris Rock is the best standup in the business.

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Jon, I agree with all of your assessments (especially about poor George Carlin), except for Chris Rock.  I love Chris Rock, but for my money, the best stand up working now is John Mulaney.

But best comedian/worst boater award?  Louis C.K. 

https://www.boatus.com/magazine/2017/april/louis-ck-goes-aground.asp

I also remember an interview he did where he was waxing about his boating skills, and he referred to his "water anchor".  Huh?

This award was given of course before his awful behavior was uncovered and he was actually eligible for a "best" anything award.

 

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I still remember the first time I watched Williams do stand-up.

The jokes & observations & commentary came pouring out so fast I couldn't even keep up with him. His delivery was so explosively fast It always surprised me that he never had a heart attack or a stroke on stage.

I think my favourite of all his work was with Walter Matthau and Jerry Reed in The Survivors.

"You better watch this guy - he's slicker'n whale shit on an ice floe".

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I've never seen him get political but in my experience most comedians are kind of left.

Right wingers are rarely funny - the evidence is all over this place.

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1 hour ago, SloopJonB said:

I've never seen him get political but in my experience most comedians are kind of left.

Right wingers are rarely funny - the evidence is all over this place.

I dunno; SNL doesn't need to write scripts any more.....

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Spotted in China, nearby Shanghai. Its (sorry, I can't refer to it as "she") steering wheel is literally a bicycle wheel and this craft was actually making headway under the sail. It has Party's Hammer&Sickle on the mast top. I would say it can be one of the best stage requisites for "Water World II". 

Please don't show it to the guy from the "Home built steel boat" thread...

 

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8 hours ago, zarin_nsk said:

Spotted in China, nearby Shanghai. Its (sorry, I can't refer to it as "she") steering wheel is literally a bicycle wheel and this craft was actually making headway under the sail. It has Party's Hammer&Sickle on the mast top. I would say it can be one of the best stage requisites for "Water World II". 

Please don't show it to the guy from the "Home built steel boat" thread...

 

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The crewman looks like he is dressed for the boat to jump up on foils.   The captain has this look on his face like:"I could sell ice to this eskimo..."

- Stumbling

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I admire the rudder blade position to cure that pesky outboard problem.

I see bull rails are admirable in China as well. Long live the bull rail...oh, wait wrong thread...

Nice to see designer Mike Waller has an influence on the nuilder with that stern detail.

http://www.wallerdesign.com.au/ts540.html

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7 hours ago, Steam Flyer said:

Brent couldn't design a hull that nice on his best day ever.

OTOH I wonder why..... seriously, why???..... they have the companionway padlocked

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Human traffickers often use locks to keep their cargo under control.

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21 hours ago, Norse Horse said:

I see bull rails are admirable in China as well. Long live the bull rail...oh, wait wrong thread...

And in China apparently you can take them with you. All hail and praise!

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19 hours ago, Autonomous said:
On 6/9/2019 at 8:48 AM, Steam Flyer said:

OTOH I wonder why..... seriously, why???..... they have the companionway padlocked

 

Human traffickers often use locks to keep their cargo under control. 

Well aren't you just a little ray of sunshine. I would never have thought of that.

I'm sure you're right in general but hope you're wrong this specific time..... not out of any personal malice, please understand. I'm just trying so-o hard to be an optimist and the world keeps making it difficult......

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Feelin' Opti?

I admire Zarin's find as well because not only will a 7.62x39 will just dust apart on contact with the hull, the flat top main looks suspiciously like one of my leaf blower attachments, the destroyer bowis in vogue and it has none of those sissy cleats; he when straight to Samson posts with offset horns. Are they called Sam Soon posts in China?  :lol::wacko:

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4 hours ago, woahboy said:

And in China apparently you can take them with you. All hail and praise!

Easy mistake to make, but those are scuppers. Normally the scupper : topside ratio isnt as extreme, but this is clearly a performance vessel and the designer wanted to allow the water to exit the deck with minimum interference. Obviously.

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42 minutes ago, Israel Hands said:

Also admirable is the capacity to carry an entire spare mast aboard

Could be delivering a bullrail as well. All Hail!!

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Have to watch those cleatist, scupper, bulwark, handrail crowd trying to convert the righteous bullrailians, samsons and bollardites

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59 minutes ago, SloopJonB said:

No-one has commented on the extreme quality of the splicing on the stays & shrouds.

It is of a caliber I have never seen.

The whole rig is a spectacular "wow........"    Mast, standing rigging, running rigging, and finally, sail.   Its as if he ran all over the neighborhood and asked, "are you using that? Good, I'll take it!"

The whole boat is one a caliber as if the boats "creator" found a sailing magazine that had been mysteriously dropped and repeatedly stepped on before the creator picked it up and said to himself "I could build one better than this!"

There are hints on the hull that have some transcendental relationship to existing sailboat designs from MORC, IOR and something closer to a modern boat.    My experience on the transom is a little before time of Mike Waller:

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It finally struck me, its a Chinese mini tonner!   I wonder what it would rate?

- Stumbling

PS, needs to clean the "outboard" propeller.   That cannot be helping it reach its potential....

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On 6/9/2019 at 5:35 PM, zarin_nsk said:

Spotted in China, nearby Shanghai. Its (sorry, I can't refer to it as "she") steering wheel is literally a bicycle wheel and this craft was actually making headway under the sail. It has Party's Hammer&Sickle on the mast top. I would say it can be one of the best stage requisites for "Water World II". 

Please don't show it to the guy from the "Home built steel boat" thread...

 

 

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That rudder shaft and steering set up look a little suspect.

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The thing I don't understand is why he have built such a boat being just a fisherman - 99% of the boats (I allow 1% for this craft now) at the lake are regular ferro-cement with a long-tail outboard or without it.

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I wonder if it has something below in at least in a shape of sailboat keel - that can say much about if the guy just plagiarized  shapes of sailboats he saw before on the lake or there was at least a bit of study on the subject. 

I was so fascinated with this post-apocalyptic look when we catch up with this thing I didn't ask much questions. The guy shouted out, grinning, that he built this with a budget of 10K yuans (about 1400 USD). 

 

1 hour ago, stumblingthunder said:

I wonder what it would rate?

I was waiting for this question :)

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On 6/9/2019 at 3:35 PM, zarin_nsk said:

Spotted in China, nearby Shanghai. Its (sorry, I can't refer to it as "she") steering wheel is literally a bicycle wheel and this craft was actually making headway under the sail. It has Party's Hammer&Sickle on the mast top. I would say it can be one of the best stage requisites for "Water World II". 

Please don't show it to the guy from the "Home built steel boat" thread...

 

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A true testament to the welders art right there. I guess someone has to ask - so what'sit rate?

 

 

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30 minutes ago, slap said:

Yeah, the boat looks like shit.  But they're smiling, which is the reason to sail......

The helmsman is smiling, and appreciating his lot in life. He's thin from a life of work, wears workshoes and his knees are dirty. But he's sailing!

The kid is either a paying passenger, or his soft, lazy son. I'm guessing passenger, since he's wearing the life vest. He is looking up from his phone with that oblivious expression that is universal to smartphone addicts.

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10 hours ago, the saint said:

That rudder shaft and steering set up look a little suspect.

Why are you picking on them when there is such a smorgasbord of "suspect" on that thing? :D

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10 hours ago, zarin_nsk said:

I was so fascinated with this post-apocalyptic look when we catch up with this thing I didn't ask much questions. The guy shouted out, grinning, that he built this with a budget of 10K yuans (about 1400 USD).

BS would be so proud of them.

Envious even.

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15 hours ago, Norse Horse said:

Have to watch those cleatist, scupper, bulwark, handrail crowd trying to convert the righteous bullrailians, samsons and bollardites

All Hail the mighty Bullrail. Preach it Brother Norse.

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I like the plumb stem - very contemporary,  but I am bothered by the fender hanging over the starboard side while underway - not seaman-like. I would love to hear the outboard running.

It evokes the 1995 post-apocalyptic film "Water World" starring Kevin Costner:

 

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On 6/11/2019 at 2:24 AM, SPORTSCAR said:

A true testament to the welders art right there. I guess someone has to ask - so what'sit rate?

 

 

The hull and deck look reasonable or even pretty good assuming next to no resources. The rig however is sorely underpowered. Makes sense that the difficult tech is up there and really tough to build to modern standards. They might think about finding a pine tree and some tarps and go ancient tech for the rig, and power up!

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On 5/3/2019 at 5:05 AM, steele said:

It is too far aft to use as part of a dodger and mainsheet anchor point like the ones on Beneteaus.

looks like the mainsheet track is mounted on the leading edge of the arch ?

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I disagree about the ugly bit - it looks like a knockoff of a Columbia 50.

That boat has been for sale for at least a decade. I see it's ferro - that tidbit has not been publicized in the past. Looks like an exceptional example of that thankfully lost art.

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On 6/11/2019 at 9:21 PM, Bull City said:

I like the plumb stem - very contemporary,  but I am bothered by the fender hanging over the starboard side while underway - not seaman-like. I would love to hear the outboard running.

It evokes the 1995 post-apocalyptic film "Water World" starring Kevin Costner:

 

Waterworld is a guilty pleasure of mine.

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4 hours ago, SloopJonB said:

I disagree about the ugly bit - it looks like a knockoff of a Columbia 50.

That boat has been for sale for at least a decade. I see it's ferro - that tidbit has not been publicized in the past. Looks like an exceptional example of that thankfully lost art.

I agree on both points. Nice lines, the cabin doesn't fit 100% stylewise to the rest though.

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On 6/11/2019 at 1:11 AM, zarin_nsk said:

I was so fascinated with this post-apocalyptic look when we catch up with this thing I didn't ask much questions. The guy shouted out, grinning, that he built this with a budget of 10K yuans (about 1400 USD). 

That's a pretty small budget for the size of his grin. That's Admirable and it's definitely Ugly. But not tooooo ugly like that sharpie in Mocking Ads. Winner! (For this thread, anway.)

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19 hours ago, Norse Horse said:

I admire this creation and the name. Scroll down a bit till you see her article "My Friend Steve"

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A home built rendition of a Macgregor 26!   

Barstool high tillers, lashed on rudders, a-frame mast,  damn solid dodger/bimini and standing room accommodations.   Hull has a hint of classic Aquasport to her lines.

I am .... stunned into an uncomfortable lack of words.    I congratulate the creator on that accomplishment!

- Stumbling

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He built it as an homage to climate change?

Mebby I'll build one as a token of time or season change.

He says it'll be able to beach on the ice. Well, as long as the ice is down wind that feature may come in handy.

He should have named it Top Hamper.

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4 hours ago, Autonomous said:

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He says it'll be able to beach on the ice. Well, as long as the ice is down wind that feature may come in handy.

He should have named it Top Hamper.

Maybe Laundry Hamper? Or Self-Hamper? Maybe shorten it to just plain Hampered?

I admire the redundancy of having two masts and two tillers. Personally I'd rather have just one, that actually worked, but two gives what might poetically be called a fearful symmetry

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