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On 11/21/2020 at 10:34 PM, py26129 said:
On 11/21/2020 at 12:48 PM, Autonomous said:

85% pretty. The house needs to be moved aft and/or lengthened a bit. Put the mast right behind the cabin.

Thank you, but ill take it just as it is. Cheers 

It's kind of a blend of New England and PacNW styles. The little mast is a steadying sail, not to drive the boat. Used to be standard on lobster boats, often mounted to one corner of the transom.

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Writing from a country that owns a number of second hand submarines, it seems to me that giving such a craft to a drug cartel would be a great way to immediately bankrupt their operation.

Yeah, the boat looks like shit.  But they're smiling, which is the reason to sail......

No trailer, no problem.  Just drill through the bilge keels and slide the axle right in. A couple of fittings from Harbor Freight and your off to the scrap yard!

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On 11/21/2020 at 12:40 PM, SloopJonB said:

That is nice, although that steadying sail is a bit odd.

I am aware that Bolger was completely capable of designing beautiful boats - it's just that from what I've seen they comprise a very small part of his "oeuvre" - the totally function  focused eccentricities comprise the bulk of what I have seen.

In number of designs, the box boats are a minority. In number of boats built, quite possibly a majority. A few of the boxy boats are quite elegant when nicely built.

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2 hours ago, Israel Hands said:

I'm sure this boat has been featured before, but it is new to me.

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That's awful.  But I admire the forward seating area, with the cocktail table at throat height to the luxurious seating.  And that hooka on the back rail is certainly... unique.

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8 hours ago, Israel Hands said:

I'm sure this boat has been featured before, but it is new to me.

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For some reason, it brings this to mind (Notre-Dame du Haut for any barbarians out there :P):

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9 hours ago, Israel Hands said:

I'm sure this boat has been featured before, but it is new to me.

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This reminds me, I was in the mood for spice last night and I piled red pepper flakes on my chile.

What I am getting at is the ring of fire that was my anus this morning. 

 

Thing is my anus is fine now but that boat (?) is still hideous.

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10 hours ago, Israel Hands said:

I'm sure this boat has been featured before, but it is new to me.

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Those are very optimistic waterlines. I'm guessing at least up to the door/freeing port/bit that fell off.

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8 hours ago, Ishmael said:
18 hours ago, Israel Hands said:

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Those are very optimistic waterlines. I'm guessing at least up to the door/freeing port/bit that fell off.

 

Waterlines? You mean the streaks down the side from the rain?

 

2 minutes ago, Israel Hands said:

I can't decide whether those forwardmost things are tusks or claws

Classic, love it!!

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10 hours ago, Bull City said:

For some reason, it brings this to mind (Notre-Dame du Haut for any barbarians out there :P):

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The materials and color choices are similar,  but there is a wee difference in workmanship. 

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18 hours ago, chester said:

why is there what appears to be a large bull elk (a real one) at about 3 mins?  an elk?

We have in the studio today, an elk.

I'm sorry, Anne Elk.

 

I appreciate that the wide beam that makes it stable on water forces it to slow down in the tight corners because it can't lean over.

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7 minutes ago, Pertsa said:

I think this fits here. It is ugly, yet it is interesting. Look at that spar!

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You are supposed to include a link to the ad so we can go mine it for further shits and giggles.

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36 minutes ago, Pertsa said:

I think this fits here. It is ugly, yet it is interesting. Look at that spar!

 

https://www.nettivene.com/en/moottorivene/muu-merkki/750014

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Isn't that the Dag Nabbit Tabernacle Special.

They were going to broadcast Boxing Day advertisements to Estonia

The dual propulsion system was to fool the spy submarines..

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1 hour ago, Corryvreckan said:

Impressive.  According to the ad, it has a sauna, a fence, and even a compass!

Sauna is essential, it is Finland after all. 

27 minutes ago, TwoLegged said:

May god have mercy on anyone who has to turn that rudder.  It's a barn door hinged on the short side.

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It also looks quite thin. I wonder how much it deflects when at full angle of attack.

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36 minutes ago, TwoLegged said:

May god have mercy on anyone who has to turn that rudder.  It's a barn door hinged on the short side.

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It also looks quite thin. I wonder how much it deflects when at full angle of attack.

That may not arise, due to the extreme effort required to turn it to that angle of attack.  Unless someone has installed a massive hydraulic steering system.

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That looks like Brent Swain's fundamental idea but carried out by an intelligent person with a bit of money.

If I was ever possessed to cruise in extreme high latitudes I'd want something like that.

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3 hours ago, Matagi said:

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Looks like something Terry Pratchett invented. I'm sure you can survive a nuke blast in it.

23,000 lbs (reported) @ 31' LOD. Bruce Roberts design modified by the builder. Completed 2009, asking $270,000. :blink:

https://www.denisonyachtsales.com/yachts-for-sale/31-Custom-Pilothouse-Cutter-2009-Port-Townsend-Washington/7230319

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31 minutes ago, SloopJonB said:

Whoops - never mind - that's a Roberts Spray.

What a waste of a huge amount of time, apparently skilled workmanship and materials.

I just found https://www.bruceroberts.com/Spray-read-the-truth.htm ... where Roberts asserts that Slocum "invested two years of his life in the total rebuilding of her. As it turned out, he could not have made a better choice".

AIUI, the prevailing view is the opposite: that Slocum could hardly have made a worse choice of boat.

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14 minutes ago, TwoLegged said:

I just found https://www.bruceroberts.com/Spray-read-the-truth.htm ... where Roberts asserts that Slocum "invested two years of his life in the total rebuilding of her. As it turned out, he could not have made a better choice".

AIUI, the prevailing view is the opposite: that Slocum could hardly have made a worse choice of boat.

Even though it was his only choice at the time, he did very well with it. A master seaman in all ways. Unlike Bruce Roberts, to drag this back to the thread.

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7 minutes ago, Ishmael said:

Even though it was his only choice at the time, he did very well with it. A master seaman in all ways. Unlike Bruce Roberts, to drag this back to the thread.

Sure, Slocum's skill enabled him to survive some long passages in spite of his boat.  Until that wasn't enough.

To be fair to Bruce Roberts, his designs are a wee bit better than those of Brent Swain. #FaintPraise

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5 minutes ago, TwoLegged said:

Sure, Slocum's skill enabled him to survive some long passages in spite of his boat.  Until that wasn't enough.

To be fair to Bruce Roberts, his designs are a wee bit better than those of Brent Swain. #FaintPraise

And he was smart enough to hire Bob Perry to do the drudge work.

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1 minute ago, Fleetwood said:

Can anyone explain the (intended) purpose of the two props?

I'm guessing it's a get-home prop. You see a lot of those off to one side on the "Expedition Motoryacht" crowd.

Or, he trolls for salmon.

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1 hour ago, Ishmael said:
1 hour ago, TwoLegged said:

Sure, Slocum's skill enabled him to survive some long passages in spite of his boat.  Until that wasn't enough.

To be fair to Bruce Roberts, his designs are a wee bit better than those of Brent Swain. #FaintPraise

And he was smart enough to hire Bob Perry to do the drudge work.

That was Jay Benford, not Bruce Roberts.

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2 hours ago, TwoLegged said:

Sure, Slocum's skill enabled him to survive some long passages in spite of his boat.  Until that wasn't enough.

To be fair to Bruce Roberts, his designs are a wee bit better than those of Brent Swain. #FaintPraise

Slocum sailed his oyster dredger because he was broke and got it for free. If he had not been a consummate seaman he likely wouldn't have succeeded.

Hell, his wife was a better seaman that most of us can even aspire to being.

Some of Roberts older designs weren't bad but those Spray "replicas" are proof that even a haystack will sail downwind.

There was a big one being finished up on the hard in my marina some years ago. It was beautifully built and finished completely bright but it looked like nothing so much as a San Francisco hay scow.

Only without the oddball charm.

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1 minute ago, SloopJonB said:

Slocum sailed his oyster dredger because he was broke and got it for free. If he had not been a consummate seaman he likely wouldn't have succeeded.

Hell, his wife was a better seaman that most of us can even aspire to being.

Some of Roberts older designs weren't bad but those Spray "replicas" are proof that even a haystack will sail downwind.

There was a big one being finished up on the hard in my marina some years ago. It was beautifully built and finished completely bright but it looked like nothing so much as a San Francisco hay scow.

Only without the oddball charm.

Needs a cow on the foredeck for serious consideration.

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11 hours ago, Ishmael said:

Needs a cow on the foredeck for serious consideration.

I am guessing there are only a few people that get that cultural reference.  Well done.  

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22 minutes ago, Matagi said:

Saw the rendering. Came right here.

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Sunbeam's used to be quite elegant, even the small ones.

Shame. Shame. Shame. ding-a-ling. ...

I dunno. Give them credit for trying something new

I personally would not only not buy a boat like that, I wouldn't accept one as a gift, and if one were brought into the slip next to mine, I'd move.

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2 hours ago, Matagi said:

Saw the rendering. Came right here.

Sunbeam's used to be quite elegant, even the small ones.

Shame. Shame. Shame. ding-a-ling. ...

If anyone feels like risking their sanity by further exposure, the website is at https://www.sail32.com/en/

It's a tragicomic hypefest about how they are step ahead of evolution, etc. But the black everywhere and the sad-act bigtalk make it all look very Spinal Tap.

 

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27 minutes ago, TwoLegged said:

If anyone feels like risking their sanity by further exposure, the website is at https://www.sail32.com/en/

It's a tragicomic hypefest about how they are step ahead of evolution, etc. But the black everywhere and the sad-act bigtalk make it all look very Spinal Tap.

Correct.

It's not design, if you have to explain it.

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47 minutes ago, Matagi said:

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Am I the only one who sees a striking similarity to Jabba's barge here?

I think you are mistaken, Matagi.

Jabba's barge lacks the SpinalTap32's killer innovation: the magic mainsheet which passes through the bimini.  There's clearly some great techno-wizardry behind that feature. Possibly even a nano-sized turbo-encabulator to deflect the loads.

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13 hours ago, Slick470 said:

It reminded me more of this:goblin-shark-jaw.ngsversion.1445013254494.adapt_1900.1.thumb.jpg.dfdabf35557c9b43335d96a116a2148c.jpg

Fairly sure I met her in a Galway nightclub on a stag weekend waaaaaay back. Could have been her sister, though, memories are hazy. Say what you like but she had a great sense of humour.

2 hours ago, Fleetwood said:

Is it just the rendering or does it have a flat bottom?

(I don't dare check out the website to look further.....)

Again, that Galway nightclub.

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I don't hate the interior. It's been done before, can't remember which boat, but one that sold pretty well as I recall.  Moving the lounge space forward seems like it would work in most day sail, or even overnight situations. Longer than that, nope.

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On 1/2/2021 at 8:54 PM, Fleetwood said:

Can anyone explain the (intended) purpose of the two props?

 

On 1/1/2021 at 5:44 PM, TwoLegged said:

May god have mercy on anyone who has to turn that rudder.  It's a barn door hinged on the short side.

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I wish they had a pic inside, can't wrap my head around how things are connected in there. The original rudder, apature etc seems normal work/power boat but the crazy bits are something else. The get home prop must be power by a hamster wheel.

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7 minutes ago, SASSAFRASS said:

 

I wish they had a pic inside, can't wrap my head around how things are connected in there. The original rudder, apature etc seems normal work/power boat but the crazy bits are something else. The get home prop must be power by a hamster wheel.

Could it be for power generation while sailing?

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On 1/4/2021 at 10:49 AM, Matagi said:

Saw the rendering. Came right here.

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Sunbeam's used to be quite elegant, even the small ones.

Shame. Shame. Shame. ding-a-ling. ...

I am a bit confused.Which is the front end?

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34 minutes ago, Autonomous said:

I wanna see the builder's 25 stone woman go out and tie that thing to the dock in a contrary breeze.

Looks like it would capsize with anything over Force 5 on the beam. Driving in wind and cross seas would be very entertaining.

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