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6 hours ago, Kris Cringle said:

Putting away a Rhodes Astro. You can tell by the sailing garb this is Maine. 

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Jean jacket, fleece and plaid?  Could be saskatchewan!

 

 

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On 6/16/2019 at 8:56 AM, RedRyder said:

I know it's not a sailboat, but I think it's very cool nonetheless.

Saw Aphrodite at the fuel dock when we were delivering Gemini from winter storage to Pilot's Point in Westbrook CT for the summer. Wow. This would be a fine way to commute to and from work as per her original design brief - sitting in the front cockpit sipping coffee and reading your newspaper while traveling in style! I further admire the (probably recent addition) tender which appears custom-made exactly for that location.

 

Aphrodite has some history. Here are just a few articles:

https://www.theday.com/article/20170722/NWS01/170729789

http://brooklinboatyard.com/aphrodite/

https://stephenswaring.com/yachts/aphrodite/

https://usharbors.com/2012/07/aboard-the-classic-1937-commuter-yacht-aphrodite/

 

I present: Aphrodite (apologies for the iPhone photos; didn't have a "real" camera with me that day)

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I just give a big sigh every time I see her in Watch Hill...

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1 minute ago, CyberBOB said:

Almost enough to make a guy turn to the dark side.  Almost.

Yeah, nope. Between the polishing of the metal, the cleaning of the glass, the varnishing of the wood, and the filling of the tanks, it's completely out of my league.

I won't even pay a guy to mow my lawn...This would not only require 10-100X my net worth and income but a complete personality transplant.

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Yeah, Aphrodite and Thunderbird and the like are commuter boats and picnic launches for the ultra rich. And the years have not made any thing cheaper. Especially fuel for the pair of vintage Allison V-12’s.

 

I’m just glad that their are people that keep classics going, not just these but unreachable classic sailboats such as the J-Class yachts as well.

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26 minutes ago, CyberBOB said:

I’m just glad that their are people that keep classics going, not just these but unreachable classic sailboats such as the J-Class yachts as well.

I'm right there with you.

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45 minutes ago, IStream said:

Yeah, nope. Between the polishing of the metal, the cleaning of the glass, the varnishing of the wood, and the filling of the tanks, it's completely out of my league.

I won't even pay a guy to mow my lawn...This would not only require 10-100X my net worth and income but a complete personality transplant.

Thunderbird required owning a casino IIRC.

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I chanced across the Pegiva brand while working for a boating rag about a decade ago. There are similar designs, however this seemed particularly well made. I've always owned sailboats, but this kinda grabbed me. Has a double berth up front.

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On 6/17/2019 at 3:03 AM, rendon said:

The Aphrodite boat looks awesome!

Since Aphrodite is an ancient Greek goddess associated with love, beauty, pleasure, passion and procreation, I was going to say voluptuous.

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A torpedo stern launch. O.M.P was built in 1984 in the Moosebec region of Maine on the lines of workboats built at the turn of 1900. Fast boats then, they were favored by rum runners as well. 

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On 6/6/2019 at 8:08 AM, Cwinsor said:

somehow reminds me of this:

 

:Woman sleeping in bed on her side with her head on pillow

 

On my iPhone that looks like a Wyeth.  (?)

Gunters- best of all worlds- shape control baby!  Now if I could just figure out how to put one on Amati....with 22 degree swept spreaders.  Really short lower mast?  Lots of light air sail, and automatic gust response while reefed....

(Off in the distance, I hear the soft sound of heads exploding? ;))

(Or is it an echo?)

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On 6/8/2019 at 6:57 AM, Kris Cringle said:

A good old Hinckley. Nearly always the oldest - yet newest looking, fiberglass boat in the harbor. 

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Kind of newfangled looking with the name/hail treatment. Hinckley stopped using real gold leaf on the powerboats.

I kept my transom traditional looking.

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Best Frankenboat there ever was and will be.

Spaekhugger hull. Beautiful top added. Rudder hung.

Allegedly Peter Bruun's own boat. Wouldn't surprise me.

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2 hours ago, Matagi said:

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Best Frankenboat there ever was and will be.

Spaekhugger hull. Beautiful top added. Rudder hung.

Allegedly Peter Bruun's own boat. Wouldn't surprise me.

On the opposite side of my pier, there's a Spækhugger quite similar to that. I'll try to grab a picture of it later today.

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Looks kind of bulbous to me.

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9 hours ago, Matagi said:

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Best Frankenboat there ever was and will be.

Spaekhugger hull. Beautiful top added. Rudder hung.

Allegedly Peter Bruun's own boat. Wouldn't surprise me.

Not my cup of tea but certainly a coolboat.

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"Wooden" boats are tricky. With fresh paint and varnish, they often are the newest looking boats in the harbor. The HAWK looked like a new build at the docks, but also looks dated somehow. 

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Sure enough, HAWK isn't new at all. She has local roots. Conveived by Henry Sheel of Rockport Maine in the late 60's, HAWK was drawn by Bill Tripp to compete in the "One Ton" international series of the day.

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She had her heyday in the One Ton then was modified to compete in the new IOR rule, which she did all over the world with crew lists that reads like yacht racing history. 

35 trophies and countless awards later, she ended up back in Maine, tired no doubt.

 

An optimistic owner planned to restore her but that was not to be. So she was offered up for free to anyone who could prove a serious intent to restore the boat. 

 

Obviously that person was found and HAWK was just recently restored at the Brooklin Boatyard on the Eggemoggin Reach. 

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She'll probably race in a more leisurely manner today in the popular classic boat races around the area.

 

The owner better be a top sailor, she's likely to have a challenging rating. 

 

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Taking off the rails changes the look completely, a. Eautiful blat.

Makes me wonder how the older S&S one ton designs would look with the same treatment...

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On 6/28/2019 at 8:36 AM, SloopJonB said:

Looks kind of bulbous to me.

True, but the bulbs do balance near perfectly. I like it. That spoon bow actually works aesthetically by balancing the other spoons. Really nice and bold design.

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20 hours ago, Kris Cringle said:

Obviously that person was found and HAWK was just recently restored at the Brooklin Boatyard on the Eggemoggin Reach. 

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She'll probably race in a more leisurely manner today in the popular classic boat races around the area.

I would hope that she would be more leisurely. And a boat like this deserves an appropriate crew

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On 6/28/2019 at 10:49 AM, Misbehavin' said:

On the opposite side of my pier, there's a Spækhugger quite similar to that. I'll try to grab a picture of it later today.

Oh well, "later today". I went out on a weekend cruise and forgot about it, but here it is. 

I'm not sure if it's with a spade rudder or skeg hung rudder, definitely not a hung rudder like on the earlier posted picture. I'll have to ask the owner, when I see him again. The first production Spækhuggers had a spade rudder, but that quite early got changed to a skeg hung rudder because of design/construction issues. About 300 were built.

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On 7/3/2019 at 3:08 PM, Misbehavin' said:

Oh well, "later today". I went out on a weekend cruise and forgot about it, but here it is. 

I'm not sure if it's with a spade rudder or skeg hung rudder, definitely not a hung rudder like on the earlier posted picture. I'll have to ask the owner, when I see him again. The first production Spækhuggers had a spade rudder, but that quite early got changed to a skeg hung rudder because of design/construction issues. About 300 were built.

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She reminds me a bit of the Marsvin.

 

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On 7/5/2019 at 7:53 PM, captain_crunch said:

She reminds me a bit of the Marsvin.

 

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There's a reason for that. Marsvin, Spækhugger, Grinde and Kaskelot were all designed by Peter Bruun. When my parents met, my dad owned a Marsvin, like the one above, so there's quite a big chance that I was conceived on it.
From left to right, year of design, size and a translation of their names.

Marsvin, 1977, 6.8 meters (harbour porpoise)

Spækhugger, 1969, 7.4 meters (killer whale)

Grinde, 1974, 8.2 meters (pilot whale)

Kaskelot, 1972, 10.3 meters (sperm whale)

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Grew up on the Great Lakes in the Detroit area. This was always one of my favorite boats. Dick Carter design NA 40. I am sure @Cal20sailor is familiar with these. Hull #4, built 1978. She is currently getting ready to race in the Chi/Mac. Then down to Port Huron for the BYC Mac. Went to school with the owner. Oh, he has got 12 trophies in the Chi/Mac on FT.

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It's not what you think it is. Rather the granddaugther

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It's called an MF-boat.

It's 6m80 long, so somewhat shorter as the Nordic Folkboat, it's also only around half the displacement.

Looking at the sheet angle, this should go to wind like little else.

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On 7/8/2019 at 7:01 PM, woahboy said:

Grew up on the Great Lakes in the Detroit area. This was always one of my favorite boats. Dick Carter design NA 40. I am sure @Cal20sailor is familiar with these. Hull #4, built 1978. She is currently getting ready to race in the Chi/Mac. Then down to Port Huron for the BYC Mac. Went to school with the owner. Oh, he has got 12 trophies in the Chi/Mac on FT.

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2nd in their division. It was definitely a drifter this year.

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Not sure what this is, looks like a aluminum hull, really like the lines, lots of subtle work in keeping clean and simple.  Maybe 65'.

 

Cant get pic to load will try later 

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12 minutes ago, SASSAFRASS said:

Not sure what this is, looks like a aluminum hull, really like the lines, lots of subtle work in keeping clean and simple.  Maybe 65'.

 

Cant get pic to load will try later 

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That looks nice and proper.  Has that Hinkley feel to it.

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Nice hull but I'd like it a lot better with a much shorter cabin top - like ending behind the mast.

A boat that size should still have headroom forward under a flush deck.

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Was thinking a flush foredeck would be nice especially to store the rib on chicks, but it looks like that is all master SR also there is a check stay that would make the tender stowage not work.  The lines as is are almost perfect. It doesn't move alot so I'm thinking shoal keel, tons of surge here and we are moving around alot more with 8' under us. The wind gen mounts need some work they were shaking a fair bit when they braked might be a harmonic thing.  Looks like a couple could sail it pretty easy.

 

Nice boat.

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1 hour ago, SASSAFRASS said:

Was thinking a flush foredeck would be nice especially to store the rib on chicks, but it looks like that is all master SR also there is a check stay that would make the tender stowage not work.  The lines as is are almost perfect. It doesn't move alot so I'm thinking shoal keel, tons of surge here and we are moving around alot more with 8' under us. The wind gen mounts need some work they were shaking a fair bit when they braked might be a harmonic thing.  Looks like a couple could sail it pretty easy.

 

Nice boat.

Nope, I reckon the coachroof forward of the mast is perfect for the chicks. There’s even a nice bit of wire for them to hold on to.

The RIB is perfectly happy contending with the kicker.  

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On 7/17/2019 at 12:29 PM, SASSAFRASS said:

 

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Wow, I love that. Long and lean. The hull looks like Tripp, but the cabin top doesn't. Almost looks like something Van de Stadt could have designed in the 60's. Transom's going the wrong way, and she appears to be a little less full all around, but she reminds me of a Southern Ocean Gallant. 

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On 7/9/2019 at 4:35 AM, Matagi said:

It's not what you think it is. Rather the granddaugther

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It's called an MF-boat.

It's 6m80 long, so somewhat shorter as the Nordic Folkboat, it's also only around half the displacement.

Looking at the sheet angle, this should go to wind like little else.

As in Mother F**ker?

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On 7/17/2019 at 1:29 PM, SASSAFRASS said:

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The cabin profile bothers me; it's too long visually. I think it needs a doghouse, like the ones Phillip Rhodes did so well:

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2 hours ago, Bull City said:

As in Mother F**ker?

Theoretically yes.

Gives an interesting look into the inner workings of your mind, though...

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^^ Now we're getting into "Celebrity Boats to admire."

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5 hours ago, Matagi said:

Theoretically yes.

Gives an interesting look into the inner workings of your mind, though...

 The M-F, an interesting evolution on an older design. I like it.

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Here's something off the C&C drawing board but built in Germany, 1971. If given the chance to throw all rationality out the window, I'd do it in a heartbeat. It was originally a race boat and was converted to a 'fast cruiser' in the 80s.image.thumb.jpeg.22f481d0b69e8747e34c95c7172cdfa7.jpeg

https://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1971/c-c-50-3548861/?refSource=browse listing

 

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Wow, that is a cool boat.  C&C were such good designers.   My only real gripe with that boat is the tiny cockpit, which I suppose is sort of made up for with the cockpit aft of the mast.   Very cool. 

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3 hours ago, fufkin said:

Here's something off the C&C drawing board but built in Germany, 1971. If given the chance to throw all rationality out the window, I'd do it in a heartbeat. It was originally a race boat and was converted to a 'fast cruiser' in the 80s.image.thumb.jpeg.22f481d0b69e8747e34c95c7172cdfa7.jpeg

https://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1971/c-c-50-3548861/?refSource=browse listing

 

Want.

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8 hours ago, fufkin said:

Here's something off the C&C drawing board but built in Germany, 1971. If given the chance to throw all rationality out the window, I'd do it in a heartbeat. It was originally a race boat and was converted to a 'fast cruiser' in the 80s.image.thumb.jpeg.22f481d0b69e8747e34c95c7172cdfa7.jpeg

https://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1971/c-c-50-3548861/?refSource=browse listing

 

I Admire whatever that fixture is on the right side of the pic. Also the honesty of emphasizing that there's no toilet paper roller.

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Yes I meant to add...AN ACTUAL BIDET!!!!!   After adding one to my house a couple of years ago, taking a crap anywhere but in my own throne is painful.  That is now the only drawback to cruising is that I obviously don’t have one as this boat does...  new world yet project?

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5 hours ago, Repastinate Tom said:

I Admire whatever that fixture is on the right side of the pic. Also the honesty of emphasizing that there's no toilet paper roller.

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Who needs toilet paper if you have a bidet?

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Apologies for straying from the plumbing fixtures, but the boat's cockpit seems very small. Any thoughts?

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2 hours ago, alphafb552 said:

Hmmm, would you use seawater for the bidet? :blink:

Only if you wanted that fishy taste...................

FB- Doug

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1 hour ago, Bull City said:

Apologies for straying from the plumbing fixtures, but the boat's cockpit seems very small. Any thoughts?

IMO, It is not meant to be used as a daysailor. If you use it as a cruiser, out of a crew of 6 there will be maximum 3 or 4 people (and typically 2) in the cockpit at sea as there are always people sleeping, cooking or navigating. At anchor, I imagine that they use the middle cockpit to stay outside.

At sea I think that it is probably hard to reef with just one person on deck as ideally you need one person per cockpit. Also communication between the 2 cockpits might be tricky when it's windy. When it is time for the second reef, the trek from the rear cockpit to the middle one isn't ideal.

18t displacement (about 36 000 lbs), that's a big boat, ideally you want at least 4 people with sailing knowledge onboard (2 watches of 2). I love wooden boats but even if I had the money, I wouldn't want it as a family cruiser.

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3 hours ago, Steam Flyer said:

Only if you wanted that fishy taste...................

FB- Doug

:wacko:

Taste ???????

Ewwwwwww!

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2B2930E2-3149-4A59-979F-72BD68CC22C1.thumb.jpeg.6321964be89282668b13e73ea0702add.jpegI went back to the middle of this thread.  

Remember, when we old folks were all teens?  We purchased playboy and told everyone we read the ariticles?  Well I have to admit, I am reviewing this thread, and ALL I AM LOOKING AT Is The Pictures! 

This little boat was built during World War II and was purchased by my father and brought down to Louisiana to sail on the bayous.  What I remember is that it leaked like a sieve.  Still could sail.  

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8 hours ago, Panoramix said:
10 hours ago, Bull City said:

Apologies for straying from the plumbing fixtures, but the boat's cockpit seems very small. Any thoughts?

IMO, It is not meant to be used as a daysailor. If you use it as a cruiser, out of a crew of 6 there will be maximum 3 or 4 people (and typically 2) in the cockpit at sea as there are always people sleeping, cooking or navigating. At anchor, I imagine that they use the middle cockpit to stay outside.

At sea I think that it is probably hard to reef with just one person on deck as ideally you need one person per cockpit. Also communication between the 2 cockpits might be tricky when it's windy. When it is time for the second reef, the trek from the rear cockpit to the middle one isn't ideal.

18t displacement (about 36 000 lbs), that's a big boat, ideally you want at least 4 people with sailing knowledge onboard (2 watches of 2). I love wooden boats but even if I had the money, I wouldn't want it as a family cruiser.

Also, the small cockpit allows more room for the bidet below.

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3 minutes ago, Repastinate Tom said:

Also, the small cockpit allows more room for the bidet below.

An excellent point. Why not put it in the cockpit? Bideting in the fresh sea air.

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2 hours ago, Bull City said:

An excellent point. Why not put it in the cockpit? Bideting in the fresh sea air.

All sailboats have a bidet aft of the cockpit.  Just hang your bits off the stern and you are good to go.

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On 7/27/2019 at 10:47 AM, Bull City said:

The cabin profile bothers me; it's too long visually. I think it needs a doghouse, like the ones Phillip Rhodes did so well:

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It would be nice with a pilot house but I'm pretty prejudice there. Our other neighbor is also French on a epoxy hull boat with a vendi glode rig. 60ish feet, he told me the name of the French NA who designed the boat but my French sucks.  Visually the boat really works for me it's proportionally upped to the existing size and maintains the classic lines. I would guess down below things are pretty nice maybe even a couple bidet's.

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13 minutes ago, SloopJonB said:

Eeewww - better not ever press the wrong button.

And don't slouch.

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I moored next to this guy in White’s Cove on Catalina last week. I’m constitutionally predisposed to hate powerboats but after motoring 13 hours overnight into 5kts of wind and the Pacific swell with 3 puking little girls and a pissed off wife I kind of got the appeal of a 30T 60’ trawler.  She’s an absolute stunner with a great pedigree.

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On 7/29/2019 at 10:44 PM, Ishmael said:

And don't slouch.

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The key is to get one with sufficient water pressure where the aim is adjustable that solves those days you might have had work a bit harder. 

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I had tied up overnight at the Rosario Resort on Orcas Island WA. When I walked down to the boat a Carter 30 had sailed in. Maybe because I cut my teeth in sailing in the 70's, I always thought the tumblehome looked kind of sexy. Here's a picture of a sistership.

 

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8 minutes ago, On The Hard said:

I always thought the tumblehome looked kind of sexy

Good news for you then, it looks like tumblehome may be making its return soon. It can already be seen in the newest breed of IMOCA 60's.

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Here's a nice Carter 33 like what I used to crew on in the 70's. More tumblehome. Pretty boat.

 

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Tumblehome can look incredibly sexy from some angles but I learned long ago that I prefer the deck space it costs.

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On 7/29/2019 at 8:22 PM, Bull City said:

My primary concern relates to the last word of this description:

"Premium Macerating Electric Toilet for Larger Vessels with a European Flare"

Does this relate to a) the styling or safety equipment of the "Larger Vessels", b) the shape of the cludgie being sold,  c) a fairly unique feature involving pyrotechnics, or d) a misspelling of the word 'flair' ?

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It's pretty clear - They'll only sell to owners of big Euro styled boats with highly flared bows.

They have to consider the image of their crappers after all.

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15 hours ago, SloopJonB said:

Tumblehome can look incredibly sexy from some angles but I learned long ago that I prefer the deck space it costs.

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You got a point there, judge...

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Of course there can be no discussion of tumblehome without a nod to the "stock" production boat that won the SORC in 1973

 

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Here's another "sexy" R37

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1 hour ago, On The Hard said:

Of course there can be no discussion of tumblehome without a nod to the "stock" production boat that won the SORC in 1973

 

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Here's another "sexy" R37

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Those boats are still beautiful.

Thanks!

FB- Doug

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Nice rudder upgrade!  And do I see a tube for a retractable sprit in that pic?  Wonder how the she goes relative to her rating change?

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On 7/31/2019 at 3:32 PM, SloopJonB said:

Tumblehome can look incredibly sexy from some angles but I learned long ago that I prefer the deck space it costs.

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I have a lot of tumblehome on Pathfinder- S&S preserved wide side decks by making the cabin narrower.... 

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On 8/1/2019 at 11:30 AM, Crash said:

Nice rudder upgrade!  And do I see a tube for a retractable sprit in that pic?  Wonder how the she goes relative to her rating change?

I missed that but it looks like you are right. I ll bet it's still a lot of fun to sail.

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New England does have eye candy in the summer time!

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