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I've been working on the S Boat painting from the photo I posted a few days ago, and I thought y'all might like to see how it's coming along. It's 12" X 24". I liked the composition of the photo,

Rather ordinary 4ksb compared to most in this thread, but I still Admire what is easily the luckiest boat on the harbor here. (for those who may not recognize her in the rare "mast vertical

My old Schooner "Europe". The first yacht registered under the brand new European Union flag. Baptised  by Princess Grace Kelly of Monaco. We acquired the boat after she went around the world. Thank y

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1 minute ago, Ishmael said:

How about this one? I know nothing about it except it passed by me one day while I was sitting at anchor.

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Nice looking cat-yawl (?). Paint scheme could be improved upon.

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4 minutes ago, Ishmael said:

How about this one? I know nothing about it except it passed by me one day while I was sitting at anchor.

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that is cool. those (i assume there is another one on the other side) strakes are odd.  They look wide enough to act as a step!

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8 minutes ago, Steam Flyer said:

Hmm... looks Bolgeresque, and I mean that as a compliment. Perhaps it had leeboards some time past?

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As soon as I saw the offset mizzen, I wondered if it was Bolger. Interesting idea on leeboards.

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9 hours ago, Ishmael said:

How about this one? I know nothing about it except it passed by me one day while I was sitting at anchor.

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I like it! It's tough to design a high-volume boat that looks clean. It looks relatively aerodynamic too. Too bad about the dinghy. Kinda ruins the picture.

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That is a nice looking boat, wonder about the rub strake and the dip in the shear line.  Would certainly look a bit better if the shear carried to the Stern and the strake was full length higher up. Curious as to the design reasons.  A friend is working on a cat ketch next door I need to go see.  Seems like they check alot of boxes.

 

Is Rawhiti ownded by John B who always gives me shit for not heading west?  Kauri wood boats are pretty awesome.

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1 minute ago, SASSAFRASS said:

That is a nice looking boat, wonder about the rub strake and the dip in the shear line.  Would certainly look a bit better if the shear carried to the Stern and the strake was full length higher up. Curious as to the design reasons.  A friend is working on a cat ketch next door I need to go see.  Seems like they check alot of boxes.

 

 Is Rawhiti ownded by John B who always gives me shit for not heading west?  Kauri wood boats are pretty awesome.

No, he owns a Davidson 45’ ketch called Riada..

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3 minutes ago, SASSAFRASS said:

knew it was a R name... Big overhang classic hull right?

No he has two boats, the Davidson is a pretty conventional design.

then in his shed he has a beautiful original kauri Bailey gaffer, that’s the one with the overhangs.

trying to remember the name at the moment.

he posts here occasionally as JBE

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1 hour ago, MauiPunter said:

She is a beauty.  Small enough to be manageable on the maintenance front.

 

True. On the other hand, it depends on the standard you want to maintain.

Here is the Flax 27. Clue is in the name. From Greenboats, Bremen.

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9 hours ago, SASSAFRASS said:

That is a nice looking boat, wonder about the rub strake and the dip in the shear line.  Would certainly look a bit better if the shear carried to the Stern and the strake was full length higher up. Curious as to the design reasons.  A friend is working on a cat ketch next door I need to go see.  Seems like they check alot of boxes.

 

Is Rawhiti ownded by John B who always gives me shit for not heading west?  Kauri wood boats are pretty awesome.

The rub strake would come in handy when tying to pilings.   I happen to like the broken sheer, it suits this boat and makes her unique.  

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2 hours ago, eliboat said:

The rub strake would come in handy when tying to pilings.   I happen to like the broken sheer, it suits this boat and makes her unique.  

Without that sheerline the boat would look ridiculously tall & fat

I thought it looked like a Roberts 36 that had been built & customized by a skilled & artistic person.

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4 hours ago, SloopJonB said:

Without that sheerline the boat would look ridiculously tall & fat

I thought it looked like a Roberts 36 that had been built & customized by a skilled & artistic person.

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There was no way around this. I always liked this concept very much, btw.

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On 11/15/2019 at 12:12 PM, chester said:

that is cool. those (i assume there is another one on the other side) strakes are odd.  They look wide enough to act as a step!

Some aspects are very Bolger-esque, others not so much. The strakes along the side look like leeboard guards, which would be very Bolger. So are the flush deck, the unstayed mizzen mast, the long boomkin, and the sprit boom. The bow and the deck house do not look Bolger to me. 

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4 hours ago, SemiSalt said:

Some aspects are very Bolger-esque, others not so much. The strakes along the side look like leeboard guards, which would be very Bolger. So are the flush deck, the unstayed mizzen mast, the long boomkin, and the sprit boom. The bow and the deck house do not look Bolger to me. 

Bolger it is. I clipped the photo and sent it to Susanne asking if it was from the PB&F drawing board. Here is her reply (in part):

"This is Design # 464 “Willow”, measuring 30’ x 8’6” x 2’0” x 9000 lbs x 414 sq.ft plus 189 reaching spinnaker.
She was drawn with substantial leeboards to allow adequate upwind-performance beyond what her straight shallow keel would offer.
Why folks would leave these off is likely due to relative ignorance as to their function and use under sail – and their ‘alien’ appearance,"

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9 hours ago, Anomaly2 said:

Bolger it is. I clipped the photo and sent it to Susanne asking if it was from the PB&F drawing board. Here is her reply (in part):

"This is Design # 464 “Willow”, measuring 30’ x 8’6” x 2’0” x 9000 lbs x 414 sq.ft plus 189 reaching spinnaker.
She was drawn with substantial leeboards to allow adequate upwind-performance beyond what her straight shallow keel would offer.
Why folks would leave these off is likely due to relative ignorance as to their function and use under sail – and their ‘alien’ appearance,"

I’m not surprised at all.  Thanks for this.  I went down a pleasant Bolger rabbit hole this morning while enjoying my coffee.  Bolger never got boring.  

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I consider it to be one of the more attractive Bolger boats...even with leeboards.  It is not a design that has seen much publicizing.  Over the years I've seen a couple pictures and not much else.  I did pass her this spring in south Puget sound and was pleased to see her in use at least, if not under sail. 

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30 minutes ago, Veeger said:

I consider it to be one of the more attractive Bolger boats...even with leeboards.  It is not a design that has seen much publicizing.  Over the years I've seen a couple pictures and not much else.  I did pass her this spring in south Puget sound and was pleased to see her in use at least, if not under sail. 

Bolger did a lot of real beauties. I love his designs although I have only owned a couple of his small boats. I went on a web pilgrimage this morning to collect & amass convincing photos of Bolger boats, but decided that brevity is virtue so here's one of my favorites, Chebacco

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Decades ago I built a copy of his "Shoebox" dinghy, without the breakdown into two pieces and with a couple of other things I added. The key to the design was the dimensions and the sliding seat so the rower could sit either in the middle or one end. Worked beautifully. I sent him pictures of my boat with an explanation and he wrote back a very nice letter saying that he made notes of my improvements (the way the oarlocks were mounted) and to please remind people that he designed more than just boxes.

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25 minutes ago, Steam Flyer said:

Bolger did a lot of real beauties. I love his designs although I have only owned a couple of his small boats. I went on a web pilgrimage this morning to collect & amass convincing photos of Bolger boats, but decided that brevity is virtue so here's one of my favorites, Chebacco

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Decades ago I built a copy of his "Shoebox" dinghy, without the breakdown into two pieces and with a couple of other things I added. The key to the design was the dimensions and the sliding seat so the rower could sit either in the middle or one end. Worked beautifully. I sent him pictures of my boat with an explanation and he wrote back a very nice letter saying that he made notes of my improvements (the way the oarlocks were mounted) and to please remind people that he designed more than just boxes.

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Always makes me smile when I see the Chebacco.  I grew up about a half mile from Chebacco lake and I occasionally sailed there. Phil was also just down the road in Gloucester and was a prominent presence around town.   I remember when I was little, my piano teacher built some small Bolger design, and my dad would rib him about building such an ugly thing.  Despite my dad’s  opinion then, I always was attracted to the various Bolger boats that were tied to the docks around Cape Ann.  They were different, and always painted in bright colors.   Later on when I started building boats just after college, I built a few Gloucester Gulls for clients. That’s a sweet boat.  

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5 minutes ago, eliboat said:

 Later on when I started building boats just after college, I built a few Gloucester Gulls for clients. That’s a sweet boat.  

Did someone say Gloucester Gull? Saw this one the other day at the shipyard. It’s for sale. A sheerline that’ll make you smile:

 

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1 minute ago, eliboat said:

Always makes me smile when I see the Chebacco.  I grew up about a half mile from Chebacco lake and I occasionally sailed there. Phil was also just down the road in Gloucester and was a prominent presence around town.   I remember when I was little, my piano teacher built some small Bolger design, and my dad would rib him about building such an ugly thing.  Despite my dad’s  opinion then, I always was attracted to the various Bolger boats that were tied to the docks around Cape Ann.  They were different, and always painted in bright colors.   Later on when I started building boats just after college, I built a few Gloucester Gulls for clients. That’s a sweet boat.  

Ah, the "ticket into Heaven."

I suspect that Phil would disapprove of my personal history, since I never bought a design from him... I did however buy all his books (new)

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On 11/15/2019 at 4:53 PM, Russell Brown said:

Where are the cool boats to admire?

Saw this today whilst out for a walk.

Looks abit sorry for itself in the back of the yard in Buckler's Hard: Silver apple of the Moon / Ron Holland 70's boat = super fkn cool 

Honest to god i just stared at it for ages and took lots of pics - an absolute work of art, beautiful shapes everywhere you looked and built of wood according to t'internet. The rudder blade had to be 7ft tall.

Definitely a cool boat.........................

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4 hours ago, rogerball0 said:

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Why did those things cost a quarter mil when I was 30 and now when I'm past being able to take them on they're virtually free ? :(

I thought the Boomers were "born at the right time"? Someone even wrote a book titled that.

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4 hours ago, rogerball0 said:

Saw this today whilst out for a walk.

Looks abit sorry for itself in the back of the yard in Buckler's Hard: Silver apple of the Moon / Ron Holland 70's boat = super fkn cool 

Honest to god i just stared at it for ages and took lots of pics - an absolute work of art, beautiful shapes everywhere you looked and built of wood according to t'internet. The rudder blade had to be 7ft tall.

Definitely a cool boat.........................

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That’s made of wood?!  Cold-moulded?  Incredible.

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11 hours ago, eliboat said:

Always makes me smile when I see the Chebacco.  I grew up about a half mile from Chebacco lake and I occasionally sailed there. Phil was also just down the road in Gloucester and was a prominent presence around town.   I remember when I was little, my piano teacher built some small Bolger design, and my dad would rib him about building such an ugly thing.  Despite my dad’s  opinion then, I always was attracted to the various Bolger boats that were tied to the docks around Cape Ann.  They were different, and always painted in bright colors.   Later on when I started building boats just after college, I built a few Gloucester Gulls for clients. That’s a sweet boat.  

The Chebacco is indeed another one of his good looking ones.  I'm a fan of Bolger in many ways.  I have all his books and even built the little 6'6" punt Tortise as my first and only boat building project.  Phil was always trying to sort out economy of build while maximizing performance  and simplicity.  Not just beauty or just performance but a blend that he deemed 'efficient'.  It's alway fun to be a curious and fearless problem solver who is willing to go outside the accepted design norms.

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13 hours ago, SloopJonB said:
17 hours ago, rogerball0 said:

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Why did those things cost a quarter mil when I was 30 and now when I'm past being able to take them on they're virtually free ? :(

I thought the Boomers were "born at the right time"? Someone even wrote a book titled that.

Well, everything happens for a reason and you can look at it two ways: it's either to keep you motivated by what great things remain to be accomplished, or it's to torment you with things you won't be able to.

Maybe both.

I believe that Silver Apple deserves better than to be propped up on a set of logs, though. And the next-door boat owner would probably appreciate something better, too

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On 11/15/2019 at 9:57 PM, Steam Flyer said:

Hmm... looks Bolgeresque, and I mean that as a compliment. Perhaps it had leeboards some time past?

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I'm with you - I'm pretty sure those 'rub rails' are the lower bearing point for some leeboards. If you zoom in on the photo, you can just make it where the swivel for them attaches to the top sides, and also what looks life it might have been a fairlead for the tackle to raise them.

Certainly looks Bolger. Raised topsides, bowsprit for anchor, rig etc are all very much his style. If it's not one of his, it's very much influenced by his designs. 

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Gorgeous - that elliptical rudder is an update for sure. Looks like a keel trim tab has been disabled as well.

My guess is a late RORC boat originally but maybe an early IOR.

Love the colour.

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5 hours ago, Jackett said:

I'm with you - I'm pretty sure those 'rub rails' are the lower bearing point for some leeboards. If you zoom in on the photo, you can just make it where the swivel for them attaches to the top sides, and also what looks life it might have been a fairlead for the tackle to raise them.

Certainly looks Bolger. Raised topsides, bowsprit for anchor, rig etc are all very much his style. If it's not one of his, it's very much influenced by his designs. 

which raises the questions: why would you take them off, surely they would be integral to sailing characteristics of the boat and how does it sail now?  perhaps they don't actually sail but just use it a s a power boat?

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1 hour ago, MauiPunter said:

Just saw this on Facebook.  Stunning.  Cant wait to see it completed.   Its being built at the Andaman Yard in Asia.

 

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I'll second the not quite my style but impressive none the less. Not much use for a big flat block sanding pad here. The guy in the green shirt seems to be having a spiritual moment. "laying hands" on the hull.

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12 minutes ago, Monkey Butler said:

I'll second the not quite my style but impressive none the less. Not much use for a big flat block sanding pad here. The guy in the green shirt seems to be having a spiritual moment. "laying hands" on the hull.

He's just making an impression while the cement is still wet. Ferrocement has come a long way.

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20 hours ago, MauiPunter said:

Just saw this on Facebook.  Stunning.  Cant wait to see it completed.   Its being built at the Andaman Yard in Asia.

 

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Rocking that Rivendell aesthetic. Elrond decided to not wait for Cirdan & is gonna skip to Valinor in a custom wakeboat, with the speakers blasting death metal. 

The miracle of compound interest: dude's 6000 years old, so if he invested ten gold pieces in Melkor & Spawn (GmbH) during the First Age and cashed out before the fall of Barad-Dur ('ware, irrational exuberance!), plus income from Air BnBing Rivendell to those annoying little Slobbits .... He can afford the very best.

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17 hours ago, Diarmuid said:

Rocking that Rivendell aesthetic. Elrond decided to not wait for Cirdan & is gonna skip to Valinor in a custom wakeboat, with the speakers blasting death metal. 

The miracle of compound interest: dude's 6000 years old, so if he invested ten gold pieces in Melkor & Spawn (GmbH) during the First Age and cashed out before the fall of Barad-Dur ('ware, irrational exuberance!), plus income from Air BnBing Rivendell to those annoying little Slobbits .... He can afford the very best.

Have to dodge the Southern Orcs on their pontoon boats, drinking sparking mead and daring each other to new lows in risky behavior!

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- Stumbling

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On 11/17/2019 at 3:16 AM, Anomaly2 said:

Bolger it is. I clipped the photo and sent it to Susanne asking if it was from the PB&F drawing board. Here is her reply (in part):

"This is Design # 464 “Willow”, measuring 30’ x 8’6” x 2’0” x 9000 lbs x 414 sq.ft plus 189 reaching spinnaker.
She was drawn with substantial leeboards to allow adequate upwind-performance beyond what her straight shallow keel would offer.
Why folks would leave these off is likely due to relative ignorance as to their function and use under sail – and their ‘alien’ appearance,"

Thanks for confirming this. It was a blind test, I agreed with @Russell Brown on the coolness of the boat not knowing it was a Bolger design.

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22 minutes ago, Kris Cringle said:

Anyone know what design this is? Mono or cat? 

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That is the most hideous Shannon mega barge.  They pulled into Belfast late in the summer and blighted the harbor.  Its a monohull..barge waste of everything.

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While anchored at Ile Saint-Honorat, Michael Schmidt’s Y7 slipped in opposite us.

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https://www.yyachts.de/en/y7

Not a fan of the interior, however twin engines pushing flow over the rudders qualifies as a nifty idea IMO. One guesses it would make docking easier too…I've never driven a 2x motor mono with a keel?  As Med’ sleds go I think she’s a looker.

Though needs a larger swim platform/transom… all the rage for charter guests now.

No beach club?

Jeez… one needs decent space to park the SEABOB

As you were....

 

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4 hours ago, eliboat said:

That is the most hideous Shannon mega barge.  They pulled into Belfast late in the summer and blighted the harbor.  Its a monohull..barge waste of everything.

Wow, it is a Shannon! Have I been living under a rock? They built a 38 and a 53, and I'm guessing this one is the 53'. 

Here's the 53 HPS, sailing

 

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I've seen that "thing" live, I think it was started for Bob Bitchin', late of Latts and Atts magazine, and reflected his highly refined aesthetic sensibilities.

It is a pretty much total rejection of the late Jim McCurdy's theory that, unless it was joyful to SAIL, a sailboat had no reason to exist.

Walter Schultz (Shannon) labored under the delusion that he was a yacht designer. At one time he had David Walters as a partner. Walters went on to design and build the Cambria's, which were and are lovely boats. 

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18 hours ago, Kris Cringle said:

Wow, it is a Shannon! Have I been living under a rock? They built a 38 and a 53, and I'm guessing this one is the 53'. 

Here's the 53 HPS, sailing

 

They could at least make the effort of getting on board somebody who can trim a sail!

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On 12/4/2019 at 5:16 AM, eliboat said:

That is the most hideous Shannon mega barge.  They pulled into Belfast late in the summer and blighted the harbor.  Its a monohull..barge waste of everything.

Looks like they started designing a mobo and decided "fuck it, let's put some masts on it".

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