Rasputin22 3,497 Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 Basically, Credit Agricole had a perfect start going. Hard on the wind charging the pin. Naga tried to barge in. When it became apparent that Naga wasn't going to make it in front of Credit, rather than stick it up into the wind as he should have, he tried to bear away and pass in front of Credit. He didn't even make it to Credit's leeward ama. Credit's windward bow pierced Naga just behind the cockpit. Naga then spun back and his starboard ama stern punctured Credit's starboard hull down near the waterline. The two boats were stuck together like that for several minutes. I don't remember how they got them apart. We were just to windward of the two boats and closest of anybody. We were de-powering to let Credit go by so we could fall in immediately behind them. Credit had to retire from the regatta. Naga nailed a piece of plywood over the hole in his vaka and went on to win the regatta. (IIRC) At the time, I respected Jack Petit tremendously. But, in this incident, he erred catastrophically. What was disappointing for me was, that evening at the bar, when discussing the collision, Jack blamed the Credit mainsheet trimmer for not cracking the sheet quick enough so Credit could bear away to avoid the collision. The fact that Jack couldn't admit that he fucked up big time lowered my esteem for him greatly. I got over it. So, Rasputin, is that similar to the accounts of that fiasco that you heard? That is pretty much how I heard it. Somehow his nailing the ply over the hole and then winning the fairly substantial prize money just added to the 'underdog' status that Jack was gaining. He became quite revered by the French Multi crowd but his ability to speak French and his tenacity went a long way in that respect. He sure know how to squeeze the most out of that Newick and himself. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tanton Y_M 280 Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 The more I look at that YMT house the more I like it. I think that the house fits the masculine aspect of a Metal boat. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sailbydate 3,609 Posted December 29, 2014 Author Share Posted December 29, 2014 The more I look at that YMT house the more I like it. I think that the house fits the masculine aspect of a Metal boat. Nah. It's not growing on me at all. But I love her hull lines. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
QBF 530 Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 The more I look at that YMT house the more I like it. I think that the house fits the masculine aspect of a Metal boat. I really like your design, Yves. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TwoLegged 2,238 Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 The more I look at that YMT house the more I like it. I think that the house fits the masculine aspect of a Metal boat. I really like your design, Yves. The more I look at that whole boat, the more I like it. A very rugged and practical deckhouse on an easily-driven hull. Antique-looking spars carrying a very modern rig. Very practical fast-drain bulwarks. Yves-Marie, it would be wonderful if you could post a few more photos or even write a blog article about it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
blackjenner 11 Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 The more I look at that YMT house the more I like it. I think that the house fits the masculine aspect of a Metal boat. I like that, more and more. It says, "I go places." Quote Link to post Share on other sites
QBF 530 Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 The more I look at that YMT house the more I like it. I think that the house fits the masculine aspect of a Metal boat. I really like your design, Yves. The more I look at that whole boat, the more I like it. A very rugged and practical deckhouse on an easily-driven hull. Antique-looking spars carrying a very modern rig. Very practical fast-drain bulwarks. Yves-Marie, it would be wonderful if you could post a few more photos or even write a blog article about it. I agree! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
QBF 530 Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 The more I look at that YMT house the more I like it. I think that the house fits the masculine aspect of a Metal boat. I like that, more and more. It says, "I go places." And do it in style, and get you there safely. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
olaf hart 780 Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 The more I look at that YMT house the more I like it. I think that the house fits the masculine aspect of a Metal boat. I think it says HTFU, works for me Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bob Perry 1,333 Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 HTFU? Great name for the boat. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Steam Flyer 8,413 Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 The video of the MacGregor 26 in extreme conditions (50+ knots 18 foot seas) post #3732 - I don't believe it. It's been posted and debunked before. Personally, the wind & conditions look more like 20~25kt winds than like ~50. So, I'm not here to defend MacGregor but I saw that video. That boat was doing fine. The conditions were pretty lose to what was stated, though some may have a different opinion, for whatever reason. Debunked by who and how, specifically. How was Roger lying? Saying it's 50 knots of wind... I mean, really?? Watch it for a little, describe in your own words the surface of the water, and then see where on the Beaufort scale that description fits. I dont want to bias anybody by telling what I see FB- Doug Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sailbydate 3,609 Posted December 30, 2014 Author Share Posted December 30, 2014 This is reported as 45. It looks like an average 30 mph day on SF bay, maybe gusting to 45, but it looks pretty steady. Interestingly the boat seems to be going to windward ok. Not pointing like a tourist, but maybe 50 degrees? Even if it were all true, what's that crap heap doing here? It's a bloody ugly plastic bath tub. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
olaf hart 780 Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 HTFU? Great name for the boat. Sounds like a project Bob Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Priscilla 2,803 Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 Bruce Clark 52. Built 1974. She's a beauty but she would be prettier without so much junk in the trunk IMO. Actually too much junk all over the deck in the other photos, she is 52' long FFS, I imagine the owners needed a big boat just to tote all that stuff.Do some offshore and "junk in your trunk" is pretty well part of life.What you sea is what you get and require. Tender life raft solar fuel etc. Life at sea is not a aesthetic pursuit. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bob Perry 1,333 Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 That's called "crap on the back" around here Prickly. Very nice looking boat, crap not with standing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pro from dover 0 Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 Who is that bass player? And why does he need 6 strings? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bob Perry 1,333 Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 Pro: Wow! Can't even tell you how much I enjoyed that. Got to blow my nose. Many thanks. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pro from dover 0 Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 another take; these two drummers are brothers, Brian and Brady Blade Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pro from dover 0 Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 A stunning piece of music Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bob Perry 1,333 Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 Pro: I have Emmy Lou's SPY BOYS cd and I have always loved that bass players style but I did not recognize him at first on your vid clip. My wife walked in, heard the tune and said, "We have that." I played the entire SPY BOYS cd. I have not been a huge Lanois fan. I think of him as the C&W equivalent of Phil Spector, i.e. it's all about the production. Probably not fair but I bought the Bob Dylan double album TIME OUT OF MIND ( I think it's actually a triple album on vinyl) and I could never make it through even one side. I like to keep the production element sort of invisible. I prefer LET IT BE NAKED to the Spector produced version of those Beatle tunes. But seeing your vids I will have to give Lanois a second chance. If he's good enough for Emmy Lou he has to be good enough for me. Is that Lanois playing bass on the second video? Great tune. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pro from dover 0 Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 The first video the bass player and the drummer are Spy Boy alumni. I saw Emmy Lou about 10 years ago and I know that drummer Brady Blade was there, but can't recall who else was. Production value, while I don't think is a make or break issue, can push a very good album to an excellent level ie: Emmy Lou's "Wrecking Ball" Mr Lanios producing. " Time Out Of Mind" is a double album, try giving it another spin. "Naked" by FAR better than the original, with Mr McCartney and Mr Starr producing. I have the vinyl. The second video is Mr Lanois on guitar 15 years on from the first video, with Brian Blade on drums. Mr Blade is one of the top drummers today, spending a lot of time in the jazz world, but can rock with the best of them too. I recently got a drum kit after a 40 year lay off, and have a loooooong way to catch up! Real long. Cheers Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pro from dover 0 Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 Being a musician and a bit of an audiophile you might find this interesting Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pertinacious Tom 1,925 Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 Beautiful boat ( Maluka ) I think you'd want to own a boatyard to restore it / get it up to CAT1 ... oh wait he does! From the NY Times: "Langman purchased the vessel in 2005 for a mere 20,000 Australian dollars, or $21,000, and spent a further 250,000 dollars on restoring the yacht, which had fallen into disrepair. He estimates that the restoration, which was done as part of Noakes Youth, a program the family runs teaching sailing skills to area youths, took more than 15,000 man-hours." http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/26/sports/26iht-srshboat26.html It's a beautiful boat. I wonder if the "dime on the dollar" rule applies in this case? Did he really make it worth $46,000 by spending a quarter million? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bob Perry 1,333 Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 Pro: I'm not geeky at all when it comes to my guitars and amps. I have a pedal a friend gave me, DigiTech. I have it sitting in front of my amp. I have never used it. I'm totally geeky when it comes to my hi-fi. All top end NAIM and LINN in the living room and NAIM and Audionote in the office. Happy that vinyl is finally catching on with the kids. I'm committed to vinyl. I use a Scala MC cartridge. I like it where Lanois says , "Let's see what speakers I have in there." Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tanton Y_M 280 Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 TwoLegged. I am writing something about the boat on my blog. Under "Puzzle". It will take a while to compose the entire piece but if you check regularly you will see progress. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
IStream 3,416 Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 Pro: I'm not geeky at all when it comes to my guitars and amps. I have a pedal a friend gave me, DigiTech. I have it sitting in front of my amp. I have never used it. I'm totally geeky when it comes to my hi-fi. All top end NAIM and LINN in the living room and NAIM and Audionote in the office. Happy that vinyl is finally catching on with the kids. I'm committed to vinyl. I use a Scala MC cartridge. I like it where Lanois says , "Let's see what speakers I have in there." Funny, I was just admiring your work over at Kim's place and now I find out you're a Naim guy too. After years of trying out gear, I stopped cold when I tried those little black boxes with the big grey knobs. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
QBF 530 Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 TwoLegged. I am writing something about the boat on my blog. Under "Puzzle". It will take a while to compose the entire piece but if you check regularly you will see progress. Thank you, Yves. I look forward to additional posts on your nice design. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TwoLegged 2,238 Posted January 2, 2015 Share Posted January 2, 2015 TwoLegged. I am writing something about the boat on my blog. Under "Puzzle". It will take a while to compose the entire piece but if you check regularly you will see progress. Thank you, Yves-Marie. I found the blog entry at http://www.tantonyachtdesign.blogspot.co.uk/2014/10/puzzle.html I like what I see so far, and look forward to more whenever you have find time to write it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Priscilla 2,803 Posted January 3, 2015 Share Posted January 3, 2015 Young-Nick Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pertinacious Tom 1,925 Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 SW Florida will be a good place to admire some coolboats this coming weekend. From the Facebook page of the West Coast Trailer Sailer Squadron's founder and chief boat herder: Wow! 16 boats (so far) heading for Panther Key in the 10,000 Islands this weekend for the WCTSS cruise:1. ******* - SunCat 17- Nomad2. ******* - DS2 - The Red Witch -3. ******* - DS24. ******* - MoonShadow - SP215. ******* - SeaPearl 216. ******* - SeaPearl 217. ******* - MacGregor 26X8. ******* - Egret9. ******* - MacGregor 26M10 ******* - SunCat 17 (probable)11. ******* - SunCat 17 (Probable) About Time12. ******* - SunCat 17 -Gatito13. ******* - Suncat 1714. ******* - Krueger SeaWind15. ******* - Egret16. ******* - SCAMP Sun Cats are coolboats to admire. So are Egrets and Sea Pearls. I love the SCAMP. Heck, even DS2's and Krueger SeaWind's are coolboats to admire. A couple others snuck in there somehow. I admire anyone who is out enjoying his boat. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
unShirley 256 Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 Taken from a different thread, but, IMO a very cool boat Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fastyacht 2,601 Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Abaco boats: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TwoLegged 2,238 Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Taken from a different thread, but, IMO a very cool boat I love the theory of biplane cats. Surprised there aren't more of them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pertinacious Tom 1,925 Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Abaco boats: Love that second reef point about halfway up the sail. If that ever gets used, they're probably wishing they could reef down that mast a bit! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Steam Flyer 8,413 Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 Abaco boats: Indeed cool... the sloops aren't really FAST by modern standards but they are very powerful. FB- Doug Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Norse Horse 611 Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 Rigged for cruising. Vintage racer has some history. http://sandiego.craigslist.org/nsd/boa/4817732153.html Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ishmael 10,594 Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 Rigged for cruising. Vintage racer has some history. http://sandiego.craigslist.org/nsd/boa/4817732153.html It looks like the interior is built for Hobbits. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Steam Flyer 8,413 Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 Rigged for cruising. Vintage racer has some history. http://sandiego.craigslist.org/nsd/boa/4817732153.html It looks like the interior is built for Hobbits. Is that a prayer rug or a tatami mat? FB- Doug Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bob Perry 1,333 Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 I like the array of drivers in the bhd. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ishmael 10,594 Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 I like the array of drivers in the bhd. The big one to port must be the sub/woofer. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bob Perry 1,333 Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 Yeah, I wonder what the boxes are like behind the drivers or if there are any boxes. Driver efficiency is all about the enclosure. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ishmael 10,594 Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 Yeah, I wonder what the boxes are like behind the drivers or if there are any boxes. Driver efficiency is all about the enclosure. I suspect there are no boxes. However, maybe that hobbit door is a very sneaky tuned port. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bob Perry 1,333 Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 Now you're going all geeky on me Ish. Do you really think the builder was that smart? Could be. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SloopJonB 12,582 Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 Rigged for cruising. Vintage racer has some history. http://sandiego.craigslist.org/nsd/boa/4817732153.html It looks like the interior is built for Hobbits. Ish, isn't that the POS that sat around 1/2 finished on the Island for years? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ishmael 10,594 Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 Rigged for cruising. Vintage racer has some history. http://sandiego.craigslist.org/nsd/boa/4817732153.html It looks like the interior is built for Hobbits. Ish, isn't that the POS that sat around 1/2 finished on the Island for years? Fuck, I don't know, I never leave my basement. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kimbottles 827 Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 Rigged for cruising. Vintage racer has some history. http://sandiego.craigslist.org/nsd/boa/4817732153.html It looks like the interior is built for Hobbits. Ish, isn't that the POS that sat around 1/2 finished on the Island for years? Wasn't that "Gretal" ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Marinatrix447 212 Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 (If you only have eyes for wood, and stuff styled 1930s… please look away/block now) This week I’m mainly liking Finot-Conq's new 53 footer… Gotta just luv those damn kool Frenchie’s that sure know how to create magic outta carbon… http://www.finot-conq.com/en/content/fc3-53-feet Since Ourson Rapide… 50-100' fast cruisers seem to be their specialist custom thing, for owners looking for a boat a tad less mainstream for their blue-water needs (Would be nice to see pics of the real thing come 2016) The 61 is ahead in the build time line. For me it’s soon time to hoist the ‘Blue Peter’ for the off to Puerto Rico. Did the test sail out into the badass Caribb sea on the 5th, and despite a leaking escape hatch damaged during the break in during August, most onboard is now finally tickety-boo…. So toodle-pip folks… Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fastyacht 2,601 Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 Well at least it ain't got no terpeedo bulb to catch weeds Quote Link to post Share on other sites
monsoon 328 Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 (If you only have eyes for wood, and stuff styled 1930s… please look away/block now) This week I’m mainly liking Finot-Conq's new 53 footer… Gotta just luv those damn kool Frenchie’s that sure know how to create magic outta carbon… http://www.finot-conq.com/en/content/fc3-53-feet Since Ourson Rapide… 50-100' fast cruisers seem to be their specialist custom thing, for owners looking for a boat a tad less mainstream for their blue-water needs (Would be nice to see pics of the real thing come 2016) The 61 is ahead in the build time line. For me it’s soon time to hoist the ‘Blue Peter’ for the off to Puerto Rico. Did the test sail out into the badass Caribb sea on the 5th, and despite a leaking escape hatch damaged during the break in during August, most onboard is now finally tickety-boo…. So toodle-pip folks… Sweet... kinda Pogo XL Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Trickypig 132 Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 Well at least it ain't got no terpeedo bulb to catch weeds Offset companionway though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fastyacht 2,601 Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 Well at least it ain't got no terpeedo bulb to catch weeds Offset companionway though. Well that does it then. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ZeroTheHero 61 Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 Rigged for cruising. Vintage racer has some history. http://sandiego.craigslist.org/nsd/boa/4817732153.html It looks like the interior is built for Hobbits. Is that a prayer rug or a tatami mat? FB- Doug how do boats like that come to be? Trust fund kid with some plywood skills? What a whack job that thing is. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
IStream 3,416 Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 Looks like a nitrous tank and a big aluminum bong in the background. I'm guessing there's a California King waterbed just out of view. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Norse Horse 611 Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 Rigged for cruising. Vintage racer has some history. http://sandiego.craigslist.org/nsd/boa/4817732153.html It looks like the interior is built for Hobbits. Ish, isn't that the POS that sat around 1/2 finished on the Island for years? Wasn't that "Gretal" ? The boat was up here in Vancouver as SJB noted. It has a 13 ft plus draft, so anchoring must have been limiting. Here is some more. http://tallshipdesigner.blogspot.ca/2010/09/age-of-russia.html Quote Link to post Share on other sites
warbird 938 Posted January 7, 2015 Share Posted January 7, 2015 Well at least it ain't got no terpeedo bulb to catch weeds Offset companionway though. Safe half the time Quote Link to post Share on other sites
QBF 530 Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Not a sailboat, but a nice cruiser nonetheless... For anyone interested in a powerboat, there is a new design that's recently been launched in New Zealand.This model certainly has similarities with Steve Dashew's FPB designs. However, I like the looks of the Artnautica 58 more than the Dashew design as I don't personally care for the high superstructure on Dashew's FPB.Artnautica 58 Specs:* Loa: 57' 8' (17.6m)* Beam: 13' 5" (4m)* Draft: 2.8' (0.85m)* Engine: 75hp* Fuel: 1003 gallons (3800 litres)* Water: 607 gallons (2300 litres)* Cruising speed 7-8 knots* Range: 6000 nautical miles @7 knotsIf you prefer the Dashew design, there is a used FPB 64 for sale for the tidy sum of $2,990,000 USD.http://www.berthon.co.uk/yacht-sales-brokerage/used-yachts-for-sale/pdf/216569Artnautica Yacht Design websitehttp://www.artnautica.comArtnautica Facebook pagehttps://www.facebook.com/pages/Artnautica-Yacht-Design-Ltd/300243140002724Artnautica 58 Sea Trial posthttp://www.dickeyboats.com/news-and-events/sea-trials-dickey-boats-aluminium-lrc58-napier Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fastyacht 2,601 Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Rigged for cruising. Vintage racer has some history. http://sandiego.craigslist.org/nsd/boa/4817732153.html It looks like the interior is built for Hobbits. Ish, isn't that the POS that sat around 1/2 finished on the Island for years? Wasn't that "Gretal" ? The boat was up here in Vancouver as SJB noted. It has a 13 ft plus draft, so anchoring must have been limiting. Here is some more. http://tallshipdesigner.blogspot.ca/2010/09/age-of-russia.html A mustang II and a 1980s Olds/Buick Diesel sedan in the parking area? When was that photo taken? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SloopJonB 12,582 Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Probably close to 25 years ago when they were trying to get it together for the AC Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Maxx Baqustae 323 Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 It sat in a pub in Nanaimo for years. I talked the guy at a Straits or tactics session at the club. He said he bought on his Visa card - one of those clowns. I guess they had it for show as why would anyone fix it. It was hull and a deck maybe. No rig but hung that goofy boom with a bit of a stump mast section out the back. Buying it that way would be cheap part just making it into a boat. I suppose they sold it eventually and I always wondered where end up. Now I know. I guess everybody needs a hobby but as valuable item? I don't think so. When I cared about the AC I was in Dago quite a bit and wondered at that time what would happen with it. The syndicate of sorts walked away from it back to Mother Russia with a string of debt behind them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Trickypig 132 Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 It sat in a pub in Nanaimo for years. I talked the guy at a Straits or tactics session at the club. He said he bought on his Visa card - one of those clowns. I guess they had it for show as why would anyone fix it. It was hull and a deck maybe. No rig but hung that goofy boom with a bit of a stump mast section out the back. Buying it that way would be cheap part just making it into a boat. I suppose they sold it eventually and I always wondered where end up. Now I know. I guess everybody needs a hobby but as valuable item? I don't think so. When I cared about the AC I was in Dago quite a bit and wondered at that time what would happen with it. The syndicate of sorts walked away from it back to Mother Russia with a string of debt behind them. It begs the question… Whilst Russia has had success in dinghy classes, have they ever fielded a winning ocean racing team? (let's not mention Rimas, huh) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Maxx Baqustae 323 Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Good question Tricky but didn't they do Whitbread campaign Fashi or something like that. Bit of an odd design none the less. I'll see if I can find it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Maxx Baqustae 323 Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Found it - Fazisi. https://www.facebook.com/pages/Fazisi-1989/1518515605033912 Sort of a banana looking design. Too much information? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Trickypig 132 Posted January 12, 2015 Share Posted January 12, 2015 Found it - Fazisi. https://www.facebook.com/pages/Fazisi-1989/1518515605033912 Sort of a banana looking design. Too much information? Then there was the Ukranian `Odessa' W60 in 93 and Team Russia V70 in 2008 that pulled out of the race. None have done too well, although their press releases always had that propaganda tone of writing that would make you think they had won. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Norse Horse 611 Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 It sat in a pub in Nanaimo for years. I talked the guy at a Straits or tactics session at the club. He said he bought on his Visa card - one of those clowns. I guess they had it for show as why would anyone fix it. It was hull and a deck maybe. No rig but hung that goofy boom with a bit of a stump mast section out the back. Buying it that way would be cheap part just making it into a boat. I suppose they sold it eventually and I always wondered where end up. Now I know. I guess everybody needs a hobby but as valuable item? I don't think so. When I cared about the AC I was in Dago quite a bit and wondered at that time what would happen with it. The syndicate of sorts walked away from it back to Mother Russia with a string of debt behind them. Thanks for some history. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Norse Horse 611 Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 I admire this motor vessel, an ex fisheries patrol, built in New Westminster, B.C. http://victoria.craigslist.ca/boa/4835754277.html Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sailbydate 3,609 Posted January 14, 2015 Author Share Posted January 14, 2015 I admire this motor vessel, an ex fisheries patrol, built in New Westminster, B.C. http://victoria.craigslist.ca/boa/4835754277.html A smart little cruiser. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SloopJonB 12,582 Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 I admire this motor vessel, an ex fisheries patrol, built in New Westminster, B.C. http://victoria.craigslist.ca/boa/4835754277.html All of those old wood Fisheries, Forestry and RCMP boats were good looking. Built tough too - they usually had several lives after their government days were done. Bill Garden designed a number of them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Marinatrix447 212 Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 Confucius said: “Never trust mariner with rug in boat…” And dudes… the Chinaman is fully on issue here. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Steam Flyer 8,413 Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 I admire this motor vessel, an ex fisheries patrol, built in New Westminster, B.C. http://victoria.craigslist.ca/boa/4835754277.html All of those old wood Fisheries, Forestry and RCMP boats were good looking. Built tough too - they usually had several lives after their government days were done. Bill Garden designed a number of them. Definitely a cool boat. Looks ready for business, and comfortable at the same time FB- Doug Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bob Perry 1,333 Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 I love those boats. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SpongeDeckSquareFoil 38 Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 Confucius said: “Never trust mariner with rug in boat…” That's like, your opinion, man. But that rug sure does tie that boat space together. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
blackjenner 11 Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 My rugs are warm on my feets and they reduce the wear on the cabin sole. We buy non-skid bathroom rugs. They work great. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Schnick 52 Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 It sat in a pub in Nanaimo for years. I talked the guy at a Straits or tactics session at the club. He said he bought on his Visa card - one of those clowns. I guess they had it for show as why would anyone fix it. It was hull and a deck maybe. No rig but hung that goofy boom with a bit of a stump mast section out the back. Buying it that way would be cheap part just making it into a boat. I suppose they sold it eventually and I always wondered where end up. Now I know. I guess everybody needs a hobby but as valuable item? I don't think so. When I cared about the AC I was in Dago quite a bit and wondered at that time what would happen with it. The syndicate of sorts walked away from it back to Mother Russia with a string of debt behind them. These were the same clowns in BC that had the 12m 'Geronimo' from the movie wind. They used the spares that came with that boat to get the Russian AC boat sailing, so it had (and I think still has) a 12m rig in it, and just the bare minimum number of standard winches to get two sails up. There were no grinders or anything installed when they got the AC boat. It would probably make a really cool cruising boat if you could work around the deep draft, but you'd need to cut that house off and try again. How tall is a 12m rig anyways, about 2/3 the height of an IACC boat? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
12 metre 657 Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 She was briefly mentioned some 3500 posts ago, but I will go with Fiery Cross - a Jim Young design recognized as the first canter which I think warrants the submission under cool boats. Built in the late 50's. Nice canoe stern. Quite similar to Herreshoff's Arion. I prefer Arions sheer and cabin, but I prefer the rounded hull sections of FC and the lack of hollow waterlines fore and aft as well as topside flare vs slight tumblehome on Arion. Plus the canting keel , which was subsequently banned. She was converted to a keeler, which I'm sure affected performance a lot since she was so narrow. Interesting to compare the deadrise and hollow waterlines on Arion vs the rounded sections of FC. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kimbottles 827 Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 FIERY CROSS is a very cool vessel. I have studied her and the design that inspired her "The Sailing Machine" from LFH's great book, "The Common Sense of Yacht Design" for many years. I have traded emails with her various owners. (As I have mentioned many times, she was my primary inspiration for the Sliver Project.) I did not want the complexity of the canting keel on what is basically a daysailor/weekender and because we have very deep water where we sail we solved the stability problem of a narrow hull with a 10 foot draft and a ballast bulb (along with some magic in the hull lines from the Maestro.) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
12 metre 657 Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 I guess they hadn't come up with the term "canting keel' at the time of the drawing, referring to it as "deep lead keel that swings sideways" Not the most practical design, but cool nonetheless. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Trickypig 132 Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 That's a really cool boat. I had no knowledge of this design… thanks 12 and Kim. Link to article about boat where it is mentioned Francis H wrote a letter to Jim Young with some comments! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PatsyQPatsy 30 Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 Confucius said: “Never trust mariner with rug in boat…” That's like, your opinion, man. But that rug sure does tie that boat space together. Walter, this isn't a guy who built the railroads here. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SpongeDeckSquareFoil 38 Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 Confucius said: “Never trust mariner with rug in boat…” That's like, your opinion, man. But that rug sure does tie that boat space together. Walter, this isn't a guy who built the railroads here. Hell, I can get you a toe by 3 o'clock this afternoon. With nail polish. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pertinacious Tom 1,925 Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 Overhangs look cool. Then again, so did tailfins on cars, but people always have to take things a bit too far. From Woodenboat's Facebook: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TwoLegged 2,238 Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 Paradox, a Nigel Irens-designed 60' cruising version of an Orma trimaran. The accommodation of a spartan 30' mono, but speed and wow factor to die for. Yours for somewhere over €1 million. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Steam Flyer 8,413 Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 Overhangs look cool. Then again, so did tailfins on cars, but people always have to take things a bit too far. From Woodenboat's Facebook: Wow. -THAT- is a really beautiful boat. That Nigel Irens tri is also very cool but this one just is a love offering to the eyes FB- Doug Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bob Perry 1,333 Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 Fife 12 meter? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SemiSalt 282 Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 It would be cool to have a reproduction of one of the early 12 Meters with a full cruising interior. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MauiPunter 1,384 Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 Im sure Bob could design you one Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Veeger 471 Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 Fife 12 meter? 10 meter per woodenboat Facebook page Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hank Chinaski 1 Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 Fife... now there's a designer of gorgeous boats. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JMOD 109 Posted January 20, 2015 Share Posted January 20, 2015 yeah the 10 is really lovely restored. I consider myself lucky that the owner i race with, has 2 fife's... a 6mr and 8mr all restored to the highest standard.
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