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I've been working on the S Boat painting from the photo I posted a few days ago, and I thought y'all might like to see how it's coming along. It's 12" X 24". I liked the composition of the photo,

Adagio just started the Port Huron to Mackinaw race In her 52'nd year of racing. First large wood-epoxy boat boat built without fasteners. She rates faster than the Santa Cruz 70's.

Does it come with a codpiece?  And I can easily singlehand or cruise with the wife and no crew. I say that a lot when I see an exotic, beautiful car, or a mansion that is just too f'n big

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Thanks Bob. The offset companionway has saved my scalp from serious boom damage on many a morning's rise and shine.

 

Regarding Ruth, she was one of 3 built by eye back in 1934-5 to the lines of what is locally known as a Hampton boat. A very specialized fishing type. She's the oldest continuously operational tourboat running in New England. Never missed a season in 79 years.

 

Anybody like dinghy/tenders?

 

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1963 International 500 Yawl...

 

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I didn't expect to see so many wooden boat fanciers around here.

 

Everybody fancies wooden boats - it's just the owning of them that creates disharmony.

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Thanks Bob. The offset companionway has saved my scalp from serious boom damage on many a morning's rise and shine.

 

Regarding Ruth, she was one of 3 built by eye back in 1934-5 to the lines of what is locally known as a Hampton boat. A very specialized fishing type. She's the oldest continuously operational tourboat running in New England. Never missed a season in 79 years.

 

Anybody like dinghy/tenders?

 

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Yup! :)

 

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The Shelter Island Runabout has been one of my favorites of late. Beautiful, simple lines.

 

 

 

Must have come from a different Shelter Island than ours.

 

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Ouch. "You broke my Travelift™!"

 

Edit: Not on the same level as driving it off the dock like they did in Canoe Cove.

 

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I saw this boat while waiting to take on fuel in Southwest Harbor last summer and circled around for a better look.

 

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Ohhhh, that explains it.

 

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True, unless he wins he lot of races. I suspect a guy that would paint a boat like this has either a lot of confidence or a great sense of humor, or both.

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Perhaps it was simply a solution to a disagreement with his wife about what colour to paint it.

 

I prefer the red myself.

 

Back in 1968 I knew a guy who painted a '55 Chevy drag car like that, only black & white - called it Race Riot. It was very timely at the time

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Please elaborate how this paint job contributes to a reduction in safety or that the owner isn't concerned about safety.

 

You call for rescue, saying "we're in the green & red boat." Coasties see a red -or- green boat, and leave. Alternatively, while you're trying to describe how one side of the boat is one color, the other side of the boat is another, meanwhile steadily rising water shorts out the power.

 

I'm with Bob, I feel sorry for the boat. It's a classic and does not deserve this. Veeger is almost certainly right though, the owner is not going to give rats hindpart what any of us think about it.

 

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Please elaborate how this paint job contributes to a reduction in safety or that the owner isn't concerned about safety.

 

You call for rescue, saying "we're in the green & red boat." Coasties see a red -or- green boat, and leave. Alternatively, while you're trying to describe how one side of the boat is one color, the other side of the boat is another, meanwhile steadily rising water shorts out the power.

 

I'm with Bob, I feel sorry for the boat. It's a classic and does not deserve this. Veeger is almost certainly right though, the owner is not going to give rats hindpart what any of us think about it.

 

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Thanks. I accept the premise of your argument. :)

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Speaking of narrow boats, take a look at these "canoes" which they use on the Napo River in Ecuador. The first is a tender 18 m LOA and about 2.5 m beam. It has twin 90 HP outboards and did ~20 knots according to my GPS watch.

 

Some of these canoes can be 40 m long! We saw a fuel supply version in steel.

 

I presume they use narrow boats because there are wicked currents on the Napo. Also, the navigable channels are constantly changing.

 

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I always thought that for a racing boat a la Vendee etc. The scheme to have different sponsors and their logos divided in port and starboard could double the money or at least get more sponsorship funds.

From a prospective sponsor's point of view, that would halve any potential sponsorship contribution, surely - since there's no guarantee which side of the boat is facing media cameras at any one time. Better to be a principal sponsor who fronts most of the money and enjoys the predominant advertising space including sails, at all times, IMO.

 

Edit: Not to mention 'naming rights'.

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You might be right. But Sailing is not per say, a spectator sport, nothing to be comparable to Nascar. Maybe the split in two major sponsors, one per side can only bring half of the money but might make easier to raise the funds. I do not know. Nobody has done it.

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I saw this boat while waiting to take on fuel in Southwest Harbor last summer and circled around for a better look.

 

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Ohhhh, that explains it.

 

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To me it looks like a solution for someone who's had more than his share of port/starboard situations

 

You see green, you can go, you see red, you give way!

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Here's a yacht that YMT will recognize. (she's been renamed) Moored in Lovett Bay.

 

AFAIK there are three of those 41' BK ketches. All are cold-molded. The first was Bruce's boat Unicorn launched in 1976, built by Gil Iwamoto and finished out by Driscoll. The second is called Mentor, launched in 1981 and built by Jim McClelland in Kenora, Ontario. She's been trucked out to BC and back to Kenora a couple of times. The third one was launched in 1991, originally called Daybreak, re-named Warm Rain II by the Mate's in 2000. Her hull was built in California and then trucked north for completion by Jim McClelland after he moved shop to Duncan.

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SailbyDate- Sloop John.

You might be right. But Sailing is not per say, a spectator sport, nothing to be comparable to Nascar. Maybe the split in two major sponsors, one per side can only bring half of the money but might make easier to raise the funds. I do not know. Nobody has done it.

I don't agree, Y-M. If there were no spectators, there'd be no sponsors, surely. Is anybody watching the VOR/VG/BWR/AC/Jules Verne etc? I believe the sponsors think so.

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I always thought that for a racing boat a la Vendee etc. The scheme to have different sponsors and their logos divided in port and starboard could double the money or at least get more sponsorship funds.

B&Q/Castorama- Ellen MacArthur's record setting trimaran did just that. Both companies were part of the Kingfisher group.

 

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Hey Starkers! Good to see you back.

Thanks Bob.

 

A hijack, but take a look at this piece of navigation. The supply boat misjudged the entrance to the harbour by about 2-300 metres. There are very clear lights visible (including airport in background). Most embarassing is that the Ecuadorean navy base is directly ashore and their boats are immediately to the left of the picture. Not good. Now they have to figure how to salvage the boat. (Puerto Banquerizo Moreno, San Cristobal Island, Galapagos, last week).

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Here's a yacht that YMT will recognize. (she's been renamed) Moored in Lovett Bay.

 

AFAIK there are three of those 41' BK ketches. All are cold-molded. The first was Bruce's boat Unicorn launched in 1976, built by Gil Iwamoto and finished out by Driscoll. The second is called Mentor, launched in 1981 and built by Jim McClelland in Kenora, Ontario. She's been trucked out to BC and back to Kenora a couple of times. The third one was launched in 1991, originally called Daybreak, re-named Warm Rain II by the Mate's in 2000. Her hull was built in California and then trucked north for completion by Jim McClelland after he moved shop to Duncan.

 

Thanks Tad, a fifth one was built in Hobart by Andrew Wardrop, not sure where she is now. The pictured ketch is Unicorn, currently named Maggie Wadsley (or similar) but current owner indicated a rename back to Unicorn was pending. She's looking pretty good, some cosmetics need attention but overall in fine condition.

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Here's a yacht that YMT will recognize. (she's been renamed) Moored in Lovett Bay.

 

AFAIK there are three of those 41' BK ketches. All are cold-molded. The first was Bruce's boat Unicorn launched in 1976, built by Gil Iwamoto and finished out by Driscoll. The second is called Mentor, launched in 1981 and built by Jim McClelland in Kenora, Ontario. She's been trucked out to BC and back to Kenora a couple of times. The third one was launched in 1991, originally called Daybreak, re-named Warm Rain II by the Mate's in 2000. Her hull was built in California and then trucked north for completion by Jim McClelland after he moved shop to Duncan.

 

Thanks Tad, a fifth one was built in Hobart by Andrew Wardrop, not sure where she is now. The pictured ketch is Unicorn, currently named Maggie Wadsley (or similar) but current owner indicated a rename back to Unicorn was pending. She's looking pretty good, some cosmetics need attention but overall in fine condition.

 

 

The 46' done for Hugh Wardrop certainly draws inspiration from Unicorn, but is a completely separate and all new design. I made all the drawings for her in 1988.

 

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Here's a yacht that YMT will recognize. (she's been renamed) Moored in Lovett Bay.

 

AFAIK there are three of those 41' BK ketches. All are cold-molded. The first was Bruce's boat Unicorn launched in 1976, built by Gil Iwamoto and finished out by Driscoll. The second is called Mentor, launched in 1981 and built by Jim McClelland in Kenora, Ontario. She's been trucked out to BC and back to Kenora a couple of times. The third one was launched in 1991, originally called Daybreak, re-named Warm Rain II by the Mate's in 2000. Her hull was built in California and then trucked north for completion by Jim McClelland after he moved shop to Duncan.

 

Thanks Tad, a fifth one was built in Hobart by Andrew Wardrop, not sure where she is now. The pictured ketch is Unicorn, currently named Maggie Wadsley (or similar) but current owner indicated a rename back to Unicorn was pending. She's looking pretty good, some cosmetics need attention but overall in fine condition.

 

 

The 46' done for Hugh Wardrop certainly draws inspiration from Unicorn, but is a completely separate and all new design. I made all the drawings for her in 1988.

 

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Nice work Tad

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Here's a yacht that YMT will recognize. (she's been renamed) Moored in Lovett Bay.

 

AFAIK there are three of those 41' BK ketches. All are cold-molded. The first was Bruce's boat Unicorn launched in 1976, built by Gil Iwamoto and finished out by Driscoll. The second is called Mentor, launched in 1981 and built by Jim McClelland in Kenora, Ontario. She's been trucked out to BC and back to Kenora a couple of times. The third one was launched in 1991, originally called Daybreak, re-named Warm Rain II by the Mate's in 2000. Her hull was built in California and then trucked north for completion by Jim McClelland after he moved shop to Duncan.

 

Thanks Tad, a fifth one was built in Hobart by Andrew Wardrop, not sure where she is now. The pictured ketch is Unicorn, currently named Maggie Wadsley (or similar) but current owner indicated a rename back to Unicorn was pending. She's looking pretty good, some cosmetics need attention but overall in fine condition.

 

 

The 46' done for Hugh Wardrop certainly draws inspiration from Unicorn, but is a completely separate and all new design. I made all the drawings for her in 1988.

 

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is that the mother of all offset companionways?

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Bruce has a great eye. NIGHT RUNNER got designed because the client came to me with UNICORN and asked me to make some changes. I knew far better than to try and improve UNICORN.

" There goes Bob Perry, the guy who fucked up the UNICORN design."

No thanks.

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Here's a yacht that YMT will recognize. (she's been renamed) Moored in Lovett Bay.

 

AFAIK there are three of those 41' BK ketches. All are cold-molded. The first was Bruce's boat Unicorn launched in 1976, built by Gil Iwamoto and finished out by Driscoll. The second is called Mentor, launched in 1981 and built by Jim McClelland in Kenora, Ontario. She's been trucked out to BC and back to Kenora a couple of times. The third one was launched in 1991, originally called Daybreak, re-named Warm Rain II by the Mate's in 2000. Her hull was built in California and then trucked north for completion by Jim McClelland after he moved shop to Duncan.

Thanks Tad, a fifth one was built in Hobart by Andrew Wardrop, not sure where she is now. The pictured ketch is Unicorn, currently named Maggie Wadsley (or similar) but current owner indicated a rename back to Unicorn was pending. She's looking pretty good, some cosmetics need attention but overall in fine condition.

The 46' done for Hugh Wardrop certainly draws inspiration from Unicorn, but is a completely separate and all new design. I made all the drawings for her in 1988.

 

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Tad, do you recall the name?

I would like to track it down, I wonder if I can find the builder?

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Here's a yacht that YMT will recognize. (she's been renamed) Moored in Lovett Bay.

AFAIK there are three of those 41' BK ketches. All are cold-molded. The first was Bruce's boat Unicorn launched in 1976, built by Gil Iwamoto and finished out by Driscoll. The second is called Mentor, launched in 1981 and built by Jim McClelland in Kenora, Ontario. She's been trucked out to BC and back to Kenora a couple of times. The third one was launched in 1991, originally called Daybreak, re-named Warm Rain II by the Mate's in 2000. Her hull was built in California and then trucked north for completion by Jim McClelland after he moved shop to Duncan.

Thanks Tad, a fifth one was built in Hobart by Andrew Wardrop, not sure where she is now. The pictured ketch is Unicorn, currently named Maggie Wadsley (or similar) but current owner indicated a rename back to Unicorn was pending. She's looking pretty good, some cosmetics need attention but overall in fine condition.

The 46' done for Hugh Wardrop certainly draws inspiration from Unicorn, but is a completely separate and all new design. I made all the drawings for her in 1988.

 

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Tad, do you recall the name?

I would like to track it down, I wonder if I can find the builder?

 

 

I would love to have a photo of the completed boat. I don't think I ever heard a name. She was built slowly, by Hugh for himself, I believe close to Hobart. I saw some photos of the hull still upside down, and I did hear she was in one of the early Hobart wooden boat shows.

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Ol Fart, she's called KITE. Built by Hugh in a sandstone building down the street from the Empire Hotel. Hugh used to have his shop there. He often has coffee at Jackman and McRoss on Hampden Road with Lee Stevens, so one of the waitresses might know his whereabouts. Also a member of the RYCT so could be traced at the front desk. Rob

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I saw this boat while waiting to take on fuel in Southwest Harbor last summer and circled around for a better look.

 

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Hey now...

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Ohhhh, that explains it.

 

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To me it looks like a solution for someone who's had more than his share of port/starboard situations

 

You see green, you can go, you see red, you give way!

 

I would think with that name, red should be on starboard and green on port :-)

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Something green too....eggshell is it?

 

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Some many moons ago, 2011 in fact I acted as a third-party intermediary PM for a new boat build at the Hanse factory in Griefswald, as (a. I speak a bit of Deutsch… and (b. my mate/contact couldn’t get time off from his demanding job in another part of Europe to supervise himself… but trusted me to be eyes/ears go-between on site. I visited the factory three times in all.

 

When we both hit the yard, together for the almost final look-see pre the drop into the Ryck - to view for real where we were at, much to the horror of the UK dealer - it caused some serious flak, including a €350 bill for the manager to accompany us down to the build line… 40mins at most. This cost too ping'd back to the dealer for breaking house rules, uber verboten.

 

Good news: The colour choice of the hull and finish looked fantastic.

Bad news: Amongst their management/foreman team red faces were soon apparent as they’d completely forgotten to fit the Flexiteek deck, a custom option extra. This flipped in an added six week delivery date delay wait, more as proved to be the case.

 

(In fact it cost the owner to be… half his first summer sail season)

 

My boss was not best pleased as you can easily imagine…They claimed pdq ‘Force majeure’ to avoid a lawyer contractual meltdown.

 

Thing was during one of our long coffee waits, pre being escorted into the dusty and wood shavings laden places where things were actually being constructed, I spotted der Oberbefehlshaber himslef, Michael Schmidt in a glass box conference room locked in heavy discussion, through the window in our box room.

 

We did the cursory head nods back through the glaze.

 

Seems he was negotiating his exit. After which once he’d banked the loot he went off sailing his Hanse 630e for a year or three. Seems too he now needs a bigger boat, and is back home to Griefswald again.

 

http://msyachtbau.com/

 

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I imagine the CNB76 new boat sales team is going to have to fight a tad harder for those forward orders now… as they’re already on hull#6 they done very well to date with that class of boat.

 

Though the Ryck has some very small draw bridges along its banks, before you get into the Baltic… seeing the Brenta 80DC negotiating them will be interesting… unless it leaves by truck again

 

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I read recently when the HMS Victory was launched she was a tad large in the middle for Chatham in Kent...

 

http://www.theguardian.com/culture/2015/feb/22/how-hms-victory-nearly-never-made-it-to-the-battle-of-trafalgar

 

Be careful for what you wish for... dontchafink shipmates....!

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I saw this boat while waiting to take on fuel in Southwest Harbor last summer and circled around for a better look.

 

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Hey now...

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Ohhhh, that explains it.

 

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To me it looks like a solution for someone who's had more than his share of port/starboard situations

 

You see green, you can go, you see red, you give way!

 

I would think with that name, red should be on starboard and green on port :-)

 

I used to race against this boat all the time up in Northeast Habor a while back. It was a little confusing at first, but like anything else, you just got accustomed to the boat with two colors. All but a couple of the IOD's up there are immaculate. Not sure how many they have active on the line now, but when I was there, 30 were active with the max on the line being about 25 on any given Saturday.

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The only thing wrong is that the name could have been lettered such that

MIS | CHIEF

 

MIS on Port and CHIEF on stbd.

 

We had a boat called the REDSKIN 50 years ago. I guess that is probably a no-no. The other boat in the boathouse was the PALEFACE though...

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Looking at one of Bolger's slab sided boats, I though you could name her War And Peace, and have the silhouette of a battleship on one side, and a picture of a cruise ship, one of the older, more graceful ones, on the other.

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Looking at one of Bolger's slab sided boats, I though you could name her War And Peace, and have the silhouette of a battleship on one side, and a picture of a cruise ship, one of the older, more graceful ones, on the other.

Yes, maybe. Or just buy something that looks good and paint it white.

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Looking at one of Bolger's slab sided boats, I though you could name her War And Peace, and have the silhouette of a battleship on one side, and a picture of a cruise ship, one of the older, more graceful ones, on the other.

 

You can't name a boat 'War And Peace.'

Unless of course, it's a really really long boring boat.

 

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Looking at one of Bolger's slab sided boats, I though you could name her War And Peace, and have the silhouette of a battleship on one side, and a picture of a cruise ship, one of the older, more graceful ones, on the other.

Yes, maybe. Or just buy something that looks good and paint it white.

 

 

Ha, ha, aren't you clever.

 

I think most of the Bolger boats look pretty shipshape, even if they aren't conventionally beautiful.

 

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But to see what Bolger actually accomplished, compare to this design by YMT.

 

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The two boats are quite similar in their features. Interior has one double cabin, galley, head, "settee" that converts to sleep two more. They both have bilge boards, though of different types. Both have very shallow draft. The YMT boat is much more conventional in appearance, of course, but would be more costly and time-consuming to build, and require a better standard of workmanship to look good.

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I agree with Semi. Don't think I've ever seen a Bolger design that I didn't like. That guy really had the eye.

 

So did these two.

 

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I know Bolger did some very beautiful boats but I think he's going to be remembered for the boats that look like they could have been designed by these two.

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I saw this boat while waiting to take on fuel in Southwest Harbor last summer and circled around for a better look.

 

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Hey now...

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Ohhhh, that explains it.

 

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this is not proper!

 

 

 

maybe everybody knows, but just in case...

 

It's an International One Design (IOD) that races in the Northeast Harbor fleet - the largest IOD fleet in the world

 

The IOD is a one design class, that was based on a particular 6 Meter Yacht that had been built in Norway(Meter classes are development classes) which Corny Sheilds from Larchmont YC decided would make a good OD boat. about 80 years ago, he put together a syndicate of LYC members and they ordered about 20 of them from Norway. I think the NE Harbor fleet was the 2nd fleet of IOD's, and was formed a few years later.

 

I'm not sure, but Mischief might be one of the original NE Harbor boats from Norway.

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I just thought I'd throw this up as an antidote to the Bolger picture.

 

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I don't know how many copies of Big Ti are floating around the Northeast. There must be at least five, could be ten.
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I just thought I'd throw this up as an antidote to the Bolger picture.

 

I don't know how many copies of Big Ti are floating around the Northeast. There must be at least five, could be ten.

 

Works for me. Fine looking ketch.

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Looking at one of Bolger's slab sided boats, I though you could name her War And Peace, and have the silhouette of a battleship on one side, and a picture of a cruise ship, one of the older, more graceful ones, on the other.

Yes, maybe. Or just buy something that looks good and paint it white.

 

 

Ha, ha, aren't you clever.

 

I think most of the Bolger boats look pretty shipshape, even if they aren't conventionally beautiful.

 

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But to see what Bolger actually accomplished, compare to this design by YMT.

 

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The two boats are quite similar in their features. Interior has one double cabin, galley, head, "settee" that converts to sleep two more. They both have bilge boards, though of different types. Both have very shallow draft. The YMT boat is much more conventional in appearance, of course, but would be more costly and time-consuming to build, and require a better standard of workmanship to look good.

 

SemiSalt. On the cost question: I do not see big difference if any, and I can tell you that the boat built by an amateur is of fine appearence. Our Bob reviewed the boat in Sailing Magazine.

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The two boats are quite similar in their features. Interior has one double cabin, galley, head, "settee" that converts to sleep two more. They both have bilge boards, though of different types. Both have very shallow draft. The YMT boat is much more conventional in appearance, of course, but would be more costly and time-consuming to build, and require a better standard of workmanship to look good.

 

SemiSalt. On the cost question: I do not see big difference if any, and I can tell you that the boat built by an amateur is of fine appearance. Our Bob reviewed the boat in Sailing Magazine.

 

 

YMT, I certainly did not mean to disparage your boat in any way. My comment on cost was just based on gut feeling, not analysis. The Bolger boat is lighter. Bolger listed the weight as 8000lbs. As far as I can tell, he just gave the displacement based on the design waterline. Your website has Sea Shell as 9000 lbs light, and 12000 lbs loaded. Probably your 9000 is comparable to Bolger's 8000. The real difference would be in the labor cost of a multi-chine hull vs a flat-bottom hull, a long cabin trunk vs a flush deck with only a small box for a deck house, a nice cockpit vs a picnic bench set up on the deck, etc. The framing shown in your photos is much more elaborate than anything in the Bolger boat, although one builder of an AS-29 described the boat as intricate. It's also only fair to point out that at least one AS-29 has had some structural issues such that the bottom didn't hold its designed shape over time. At least one has had some problems with rot where the builder didn't get every square inch covered with epoxy.

 

I don't for a moment doubt that your builder ended up with a good boat. The workmanship looks excellent in the pictures.

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Bowman 48?

 

 

Heading to tasmanian wooden boat festival which starts tomorrow.

 

This boat not as cool as it may have once looked.

 

So as more of a `what boat is it?' does anyone know.

 

Olaf?

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