Diarmuid 661 #13501 Posted February 29, 2020 20 hours ago, Steam Flyer said: OK, so this boat in the picture is not the one that's for sale in the ad.... huh? https://philadelphia.craigslist.org/boa/d/sandy-level-tornado-sailboat/7083607619.html " PICTURE IS NOT OF THE BOAT FOR SALE (I believe mine is bigger and definitely better condition. Is just for reference for a similar style.) I am out of state but will be able to post pics and meet for any inquiries 3/4-3/6. I am unsure of length so guessed. I believe it is between 20-30ft. " Which is good, because I definitely don't want to buy the boat in this picture Oh and BTW what the heck kind of boat is that anyway? FB- Doug O'Day Daysailer, isn't it? Very distinctive transition from fine bow to flat sections. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bull City 1,545 #13502 Posted February 29, 2020 1 hour ago, Diarmuid said: O'Day Daysailer, isn't it? No way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SloopJonB 8,329 #13503 Posted February 29, 2020 4 hours ago, Diarmuid said: O'Day Daysailer, isn't it? Nope - deck isn't even similar. Also, look at the foredeck/bow - totally different. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
See Level 708 #13504 Posted February 29, 2020 Not exactly mockworthy but... Anyone need a storm anchor? https://seattle.craigslist.org/tac/bpo/d/gig-harbor-boat-anchor-two-tons-7ft/7080346396.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marcjsmith 464 #13505 Posted March 1, 2020 If that anchor is 7 feet, that makes him about 4’ tall? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SloopJonB 8,329 #13506 Posted March 1, 2020 Kim needs that for his yard. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ishmael 6,178 #13507 Posted March 1, 2020 1 hour ago, SloopJonB said: Kim needs that for his yard. My thought exactly. Paging @kimbottlesto the white courtesy phone please. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
socalrider 427 #13508 Posted March 1, 2020 6 hours ago, See Level said: Not exactly mockworthy but... Anyone need a storm anchor? https://seattle.craigslist.org/tac/bpo/d/gig-harbor-boat-anchor-two-tons-7ft/7080346396.html Cool! I’ll take it if he throws in shipping to San Diego! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
monsoon 328 #13509 Posted March 1, 2020 15 hours ago, SloopJonB said: Kim needs that for his yard. Funny you say that... When I was in grad school one of my oceanography profs had a huge fisherman anchor salvaged from the old R/V Eastward in his front yard, including a 6' diameter hawser that ran from the anchor up to a bight around his chimney. Hilarious and I wish I had a picture. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hukilau 128 #13510 Posted March 2, 2020 On 2/29/2020 at 5:39 PM, See Level said: Not exactly mockworthy but... Anyone need a storm anchor? https://seattle.craigslist.org/tac/bpo/d/gig-harbor-boat-anchor-two-tons-7ft/7080346396.html That's the problem with trees; they're always trying to run off somewhere. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kimbottles 615 #13511 Posted March 2, 2020 On 2/29/2020 at 6:41 PM, Ishmael said: My thought exactly. Paging @kimbottlesto the white courtesy phone please. Kim is already looking at it. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marcjsmith 464 #13512 Posted March 2, 2020 Free boat, from another state, acquire at an estate sale. What could go wrong... fwiw. I did consider it, but after talking with the government types in Virginia, and Delaware, the hoops to jump through aren’t worth it... https://washingtondc.craigslist.org/nva/boa/d/sterling-catalina-22-free/7084762403.html Boat floats. Bought at estate sale. Needs new rigging and sails. No title for boat or trailer. (No leins). If you can haul it it’s yours Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marcjsmith 464 #13513 Posted March 2, 2020 On 2/24/2020 at 3:15 PM, Israel Hands said: Here's an oddity. A 1986 Amel Mango being auctioned on ebay. With 5 days left it's at $30K (reserve not met). Owner claims new baby interrupted world cruise plans, and refit is 85% complete. Still, if I were anywhere near Lewes, DE I'd be tempted to check it out. https://www.ebay.com/itm/1986-Amel-Mango/333520294416?hash=item4da75bd210:g:NYkAAOSwFFVeTWeF Original auction was ended at 42k. It was relisted Now sits a 50k reserve not met. https://www.ebay.com/itm/1986-Amel-Mango/333532483215?vxp=mtr&item=333532483215&pageci=e8f41ab7-af61-40ba-b406-d6216ee78e95&redirect=mobile Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bugsy 436 #13514 Posted March 3, 2020 13 hours ago, Marcjsmith said: Original auction was ended at 42k. It was relisted Now sits a 50k I think I can predict the future on this one.... six months from now the owner will WISH they could get 42k for it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marcjsmith 464 #13515 Posted March 3, 2020 Just now, Bugsy said: I think I can predict the future on this one.... six months from now the owner will WISH they could get 42k for it. Asking prices on yatch world are going on 6 figures, so I guess this person thinks that since the asking prices are so high, there is no reason he should settle for mid 5 figures... Lewes De isn't exactly the hot bed of big boat sailing though...also not really sure that Ebay is the best spot for a boat like this either. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Israel Hands 561 #13516 Posted March 3, 2020 13 hours ago, Marcjsmith said: Original auction was ended at 42k. It was relisted Now sits a 50k reserve not met. https://www.ebay.com/itm/1986-Amel-Mango/333532483215?vxp=mtr&item=333532483215&pageci=e8f41ab7-af61-40ba-b406-d6216ee78e95&redirect=mobile You point out something that I find strange. The auction ended and the owner turned around and re-listed it and immediately the bidding rose up 18.7% higher than the prior final bidding. A bunch of people were watching, so it's not like the whole auction had gone unnoticed. So how does the bidding price go up almost 20% immediately after re-listing? I have just requested the referenced additional photos and survey again...I did this last time around but they were not sent. This boat WAS listed on yachtworld for over 100K before being listed on ebay. I'm guessing that the boat has become a monthly money pit (and his life priorities have changed), so now the owner is truly ready to get rid of it. But who knows what his "reserve price" level is...it might be 100K. Curious about the true history on this boat...is it a resurrected wreck, or just a broken dream? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marcjsmith 464 #13517 Posted March 3, 2020 32 minutes ago, Israel Hands said: You point out something that I find strange. The auction ended and the owner turned around and re-listed it and immediately the bidding rose up 18.7% higher than the prior final bidding. A bunch of people were watching, so it's not like the whole auction had gone unnoticed. So how does the bidding price go up almost 20% immediately after re-listing? ...is it a resurrected wreck, or just a broken dream? Most likely he took advantage of the ebays policy to pull the ad, pay the fee before the reserve was met and cancel the ad. Then relist and have a few friends shill bid on it to boost the price. If it doesn't make reserve, wash rinse repeat. Looking at the amount of work done to it, it looks like it should garner a higher price, but like real estate, location location location. You don't drop the boat off in lewes and expect to get full value, I at least I wouldn't. I'd go to a place like Lewes to find a a steal of a deal. Or a cheap place to put the boat on the hard while I work on it. this looks like it could be the boat, hard dodger, aft cabin, shadow looks like two sticks are up Google earth has the image date as 6/18 https://www.google.com/maps/place/Milford,+DE+19963,+USA/@38.7800372,-75.1411608,42m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x89b897ff54b7de69:0x1b0f48a93aa57775!8m2!3d38.9340074!4d-75.3878525?hl=en if you look at the original big history, it took 68 bids to get to 42K, but only 12 to get to 50 on the new auction. with one person making a 30K bid on the new auction. smells funny... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Israel Hands 561 #13518 Posted March 3, 2020 25 minutes ago, Marcjsmith said: with one person making a 30K bid on the new auction. smells funny... Yes, like a shill bid. You can find the old ad on yachtworld, and also a video ad on YT with just a couple of minutes of googling. It looks like his description of what he did with the boat is accurate: Bought it a few years ago in Grenada, brought it home and sailed it while he worked on it (sailed it in a couple of Cape to Cape races). S/V Hobo Tiempo. I'm just wondering if the boat was super run-down or damaged when he bought it. Mentions rot around windows... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SloopJonB 8,329 #13519 Posted March 5, 2020 Any time you feel hard done by over your moorage rates, consider this. Moorage at Quayside marina - $900 (vancouver bc) length overall (LOA): 30 propulsion type: sail Boat slip available for long-term lease at Quayside Marina. https://vancouver.craigslist.org/van/boa/d/vancouver-moorage-at-quayside-marina/7087942183.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mikey Don’t Like Sh*t 91 #13520 Posted March 5, 2020 Here's a beauty - https://greenville.craigslist.org/boa/d/mauldin-custom-built-kayak-sailboat/7066081459.html "It's super easy. I had never sailed before building this project" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
toddster 464 #13521 Posted March 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, lamorak said: Here's a beauty - https://greenville.craigslist.org/boa/d/mauldin-custom-built-kayak-sailboat/7066081459.html "It's super easy. I had never sailed before building this project" Now that... is a very stable genius for ya. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Santana20AE 211 #13522 Posted March 6, 2020 1 hour ago, lamorak said: Here's a beauty - https://greenville.craigslist.org/boa/d/mauldin-custom-built-kayak-sailboat/7066081459.html "It's super easy. I had never sailed before building this project" Do we give this gentleman a “10” for ingenuity or a “1” for chicanery? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZeroTheHero 47 #13523 Posted March 7, 2020 On 3/5/2020 at 7:07 PM, Santana20AE said: Do we give this gentleman a “10” for ingenuity or a “1” for chicanery? that guy has been watching too many Watertribe YouTube videos and made his own on the cheap 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chester 671 #13524 Posted March 7, 2020 On 3/5/2020 at 4:30 PM, toddster said: Now that... is a very stable genius for ya. Plastic pipe straps are super handy! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pipe Dream 72 #13525 Posted March 10, 2020 Something from our erstwhile friend of the Comox mud flats.... https://www.boatsales.com.au/boats/details/2019-Custom-STEEL-YACHT/SSE-AD-6572563 https://tinyurl.com/swain26 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jim in Halifax 252 #13526 Posted March 10, 2020 3 hours ago, Pipe Dream said: Something from our erstwhile friend of the Comox mud flats.... https://www.boatsales.com.au/boats/details/2019-Custom-STEEL-YACHT/SSE-AD-6572563 https://tinyurl.com/swain26 Ah yes...the Wizard of the Mud Flats strikes again! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Santana20AE 211 #13527 Posted March 10, 2020 4 hours ago, Pipe Dream said: Something from our erstwhile friend of the Comox mud flats.... https://www.boatsales.com.au/boats/details/2019-Custom-STEEL-YACHT/SSE-AD-6572563 https://tinyurl.com/swain26 The application seems to have deviated somewhat from what the designer has drawn. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SloopJonB 8,329 #13528 Posted March 10, 2020 So BS is still finding suckers. Think that bow roller will be able to handle the strain of a 26'? Those protractor chainplates are an interesting touch. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bull City 1,545 #13529 Posted March 10, 2020 That companionway is dead on center. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Diarmuid 661 #13530 Posted March 10, 2020 11 hours ago, Pipe Dream said: Something from our erstwhile friend of the Comox mud flats.... https://www.boatsales.com.au/boats/details/2019-Custom-STEEL-YACHT/SSE-AD-6572563 https://tinyurl.com/swain26 When 'hard chine' becomes 'receding chin'. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Autonomous 369 #13531 Posted March 10, 2020 Too bad that good material and seemingly adequate labor went into an unworthy pit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SloopJonB 8,329 #13532 Posted March 10, 2020 That's what I was thinking - seems to have been pretty skillfully built. Are those strut things going to stay do you suppose? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ishmael 6,178 #13533 Posted March 10, 2020 1 hour ago, SloopJonB said: That's what I was thinking - seems to have been pretty skillfully built. Are those strut things going to stay do you suppose? I was mildly amused to see that none of the struts go to anything more than hull skin. Nice point loading, if they are going to stay. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steam Flyer 5,087 #13534 Posted March 10, 2020 21 minutes ago, Ishmael said: 1 hour ago, SloopJonB said: That's what I was thinking - seems to have been pretty skillfully built. Are those strut things going to stay do you suppose? I was mildly amused to see that none of the struts go to anything more than hull skin. Nice point loading, if they are going to stay. I bet that is a little structural detail that Brent did not design, looks like they may have been put in to hold the chine in place while the sides were bent upwards into shape. But I'm sure the answer is, "Steel B strong!!" and it probably is strong enough to take that point load but those struts are going to be PITA to build a cabin around. I'd be more worried about the rust dribbling out the back of the cockpit, down the transom. FB- Doug Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fah Kiew Tu 2,020 #13535 Posted March 10, 2020 2 hours ago, SloopJonB said: That's what I was thinking - seems to have been pretty skillfully built. Are those strut things going to stay do you suppose? There's something not right about that hull shape, even for a Swain boat. And I'm not talking about the excrescence on the top. Shame to see perfectly good material end up like that but if the owner thinks they'll get anything at all for that - they're dreaming. Of course it is in Queensland so who knows - the owner only needs to find *one* sucker... FKT Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sculpin 102 #13536 Posted March 10, 2020 Doesn't even look 85% done! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fah Kiew Tu 2,020 #13537 Posted March 11, 2020 4 hours ago, sculpin said: Doesn't even look 85% done! -25% IMO. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PaulinVictoria 99 #13538 Posted March 11, 2020 I like the tie-down chains in case it blows away in the wind. All 25 tons of it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steam Flyer 5,087 #13539 Posted March 11, 2020 8 hours ago, Fah Kiew Tu said: 13 hours ago, sculpin said: Doesn't even look 85% done! -25% IMO. Oh come on, the hull and the deck are finished... almost. Isn't that a boat? What d'you want, an egg in your beer? FB- Doug Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SemiSalt 205 #13540 Posted March 11, 2020 17 hours ago, SloopJonB said: That's what I was thinking - seems to have been pretty skillfully built. Are those strut things going to stay do you suppose? The fact that they are not painted suggests they are temporary. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fah Kiew Tu 2,020 #13541 Posted March 11, 2020 9 hours ago, Steam Flyer said: Oh come on, the hull and the deck are finished... almost. Isn't that a boat? What d'you want, an egg in your beer? FB- Doug What about the time to get the plasma cutter out, disassemble it and cart it off to the metal recyclers? I wouldn't take that for free even if delivery to my place was included. FKT Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steam Flyer 5,087 #13542 Posted March 11, 2020 25 minutes ago, Fah Kiew Tu said: What about the time to get the plasma cutter out, disassemble it and cart it off to the metal recyclers? I wouldn't take that for free even if delivery to my place was included. FKT Me neither, for many reasons. At least steel is biodegradable FB- Doug Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
monsoon 328 #13543 Posted March 12, 2020 12 hours ago, Steam Flyer said: Oh come on, the hull and the deck are finished... almost. Isn't that a boat? What d'you want, an egg in your beer? FB- Doug Hah! Haven't heard that expression in a dog's age. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mcmurdo 14 #13544 Posted March 12, 2020 On 3/5/2020 at 2:48 PM, SloopJonB said: Any time you feel hard done by over your moorage rates, consider this. Moorage at Quayside marina - $900 (vancouver bc) length overall (LOA): 30 propulsion type: sail Boat slip available for long-term lease at Quayside Marina. https://vancouver.craigslist.org/van/boa/d/vancouver-moorage-at-quayside-marina/7087942183.html That place is not a marina in the commonly understood sense. The berths are strata-title, and were sold for something over a million bucks. Back when it was built, a friend tried to convince me we should buy one as an investment. Glad I declined. Sounds like one investor is trying to meet their mortgage payments. Does anybody know: Is this a common way to finance and build a marina in other parts of the world? There are some pretty expensive boats sitting there, and I mean sitting. One of them is Hotei, which gets passed around among Vancouver billionaires like a joint at a frosh party. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
andykane 130 #13545 Posted March 13, 2020 1965 Rawson 30, $7k, looks ok. Nothing mockable here, right? https://seattle.craigslist.org/kit/boa/d/nordland-30-rawson-sloop-delphis-only/7092607575.html And then... I've also never seen a wooden roll top desk/companionway. That's almost cool in a very weird an impractical way. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ishmael 6,178 #13546 Posted March 13, 2020 Now there's a bog brush that would clean Mr. Winter's whole boat in seconds. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
toddster 464 #13547 Posted March 13, 2020 Yeah. But... how does it work as the companionway narrows at the bottom? I think I need a tee-shirt that says, "Almost cool in a very weird and impractical way." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ishmael 6,178 #13548 Posted March 13, 2020 41 minutes ago, andykane said: I've also never seen a wooden roll top desk/companionway. That's almost cool in a very weird an impractical way. Wonder where it goes when the real sliders go in? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SloopJonB 8,329 #13549 Posted March 13, 2020 Aside from the obvious mockability, those things define the word tub. A freakin' San Juan 24 owes them a minute a mile. Not one of Gardens more noteworthy designs. The motorsailer version makes some sense and is a lot better looking. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
luminary 34 #13550 Posted March 13, 2020 9 minutes ago, SloopJonB said: are those big cleats or baby bull rails? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
luminary 34 #13551 Posted March 13, 2020 maybe its a sign of the times and they have merged and jumped the species barrier 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
See Level 708 #13552 Posted March 13, 2020 Bull Cleats. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
toddster 464 #13553 Posted March 14, 2020 I guess I'll mock the hatchboards, but this might be a pretty decent practically free project boat - depending on what horrors lie behind the styrofoam... https://portland.craigslist.org/wsc/boa/d/warren-sailboat/7092862331.html Oh, and I'm sure there's something to be made of the name, but I'm dry. Refugee from the past? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SloopJonB 8,329 #13554 Posted March 14, 2020 Well that hull started out as the Chaser 29 before Binliner bought the molds so maybe... Fast boats - classic Peteron Ganbare shape in 1/2 Tonner size. Keeriste - he drew that when he was just the new kid taking over the IOR and he's already gone. Has it really been that long? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
monsoon 328 #13555 Posted March 15, 2020 5 hours ago, toddster said: I guess I'll mock the hatchboards, but this might be a pretty decent practically free project boat - depending on what horrors lie behind the styrofoam... https://portland.craigslist.org/wsc/boa/d/warren-sailboat/7092862331.html Oh, and I'm sure there's something to be made of the name, but I'm dry. Refugee from the past? I think time won. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
See Level 708 #13556 Posted March 15, 2020 That boat hasn't been fast enough to keep up with time in a long time. Peterson Chaser 33 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SloopJonB 8,329 #13557 Posted March 15, 2020 4 hours ago, See Level said: Peterson Chaser 33 Binliner Buccaneer 29 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
toddster 464 #13558 Posted March 15, 2020 Excellent. I would have had no idea. From Sailboat Data. (Window pattern does look more like the BInliner version) CHASER 29: The Doug Peterson 1/2 Ton prototype "North Star" was winner of the 1974 Half Ton Worlds, in La Rochelle France. The Chaser 29 production model "Foxy Lady" won the Worlds the following year in Chicago IL. Bayliner bought the tooling at auction, where, with a different deck and coachroof, it became the BUCCANEER 295. These were unauthorized copies, never approved by the designer, Doug Peterson. Disp. above is from SEAHORSE Mag, 1976 and believed to be more accurate than the the original displacement listed of 7200 lbs. Thank you to Roy Cundiff and Paul Bishop for their input, corrections and additional information. Photo ..... credit Dick Foat. BUCCANEER 295: Origins with the CHASER 29, a Doug Peterson designed production IOR 1/2 ton racer, but with an entirely different deck and coach roof. Also offered as the BUCCANEER 300 with a fancier interior. Later, the company built a similar model called the US 29. When Bayliner ended it's production of sailboats, the molds were passed on to Pearson Yachts where it appeared for a time as the TRITON 30. Thanks to former Bayliner employee Craig Montague for providing information on this yacht. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vaeredil 83 #13559 Posted March 16, 2020 Mockable or cool? https://vancouver.craigslist.org/rds/boa/d/bellingham-1982-horstman-tristar-31/7088678757.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jim in Halifax 252 #13560 Posted March 16, 2020 40 minutes ago, Vaeredil said: Mockable or cool? Very cool...fucking cold actually. Needs a dodger. Reminds me of Tryst, a B.C. trimaran that (if I remember the story) was used for a family circumnavgation but lost a hull when they had almost made it home. I seem to recall pictures of the remaining two hull in the back garden in Victoria or somewhere. They had better get right on those deck repairs on this one... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SloopJonB 8,329 #13562 Posted March 17, 2020 Is that a colostomy bag hanging there? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
A guy in the Chesapeake 1,674 #13563 Posted March 17, 2020 8 hours ago, SloopJonB said: Is that a colostomy bag hanging there? Sun shower. Hey - that's a helluva lot more boat than the IC waterway plying mastless cat. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steam Flyer 5,087 #13564 Posted March 17, 2020 35 minutes ago, A guy in the Chesapeake said: 8 hours ago, SloopJonB said: Is that a colostomy bag hanging there? Sun shower. Hey - that's a helluva lot more boat than the IC waterway plying mastless cat. Yep, just imagine screwing a piece of schmutzed-up plywood to the inside of that deck and saying "good to go." I've always liked the Horstman tris. Yeah they're not speedsters but I like the combination of buck-rogers futuristic and decent interior. Not sure what the point is of hooking up a sun shower to a porta-potty.... not sure I want to know FB- Doug Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SloopJonB 8,329 #13565 Posted March 17, 2020 What's the wooden box? A Victorian water closet setup? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
andykane 130 #13566 Posted March 17, 2020 Japanese soaking tub/anchor locker? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marcjsmith 464 #13567 Posted March 17, 2020 5 hours ago, Steam Flyer said: Not sure what the point is of hooking up a sun shower to a porta-potty.... not sure I want to know FB- Doug bidet??? or just a water source to wash the skidmarks off the bowl... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Therapy 11 #13568 Posted March 17, 2020 6 hours ago, Steam Flyer said: Yep, just imagine screwing a piece of schmutzed-up plywood to the inside of that deck and saying "good to go." I've always liked the Horstman tris. Yeah they're not speedsters but I like the combination of buck-rogers futuristic and decent interior. Not sure what the point is of hooking up a sun shower to a porta-potty.... not sure I want to know FB- Doug Jesus. I thought you were smarter than that. THERE IS NO MORE TOILET PAPER!!!! It is a rinse/bidet substitute. More sanitary too. And I thought you got out some. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maxx Baqustae 231 #13569 Posted March 17, 2020 On 3/14/2020 at 11:23 PM, toddster said: Excellent. I would have had no idea. From Sailboat Data. (Window pattern does look more like the BInliner version) CHASER 29: The Doug Peterson 1/2 Ton prototype "North Star" was winner of the 1974 Half Ton Worlds, in La Rochelle France. The Chaser 29 production model "Foxy Lady" won the Worlds the following year in Chicago IL. Bayliner bought the tooling at auction, where, with a different deck and coachroof, it became the BUCCANEER 295. These were unauthorized copies, never approved by the designer, Doug Peterson. Disp. above is from SEAHORSE Mag, 1976 and believed to be more accurate than the the original displacement listed of 7200 lbs. Thank you to Roy Cundiff and Paul Bishop for their input, corrections and additional information. Photo ..... credit Dick Foat. BUCCANEER 295: Origins with the CHASER 29, a Doug Peterson designed production IOR 1/2 ton racer, but with an entirely different deck and coach roof. Also offered as the BUCCANEER 300 with a fancier interior. Later, the company built a similar model called the US 29. When Bayliner ended it's production of sailboats, the molds were passed on to Pearson Yachts where it appeared for a time as the TRITON 30. Thanks to former Bayliner employee Craig Montague for providing information on this yacht. https://sailboatdata.com/sailboat/chaser-29 I raced on a 29 on a very successful one in our area called "Hortense" VARC boat of the year twice on two different owners. But to be fair the crew was pretty much the same. How do you make a Hore tense? Don't pay her! There was a Chaser 33 too: https://sailboatdata.com/sailboat/chaser-33 But there were more of the Buccaneer 335/Binliners around and a bunch of them were at the 3/4 ton World's in Victoria. That was when I first "Poncho" and have been friends since. We were there with our 34 aluminum Mull design as that design had won the worlds 2 more times. Things changed quite a bit with the advent of boats like the first Laurie Davidson "Pendragon" and Bill Buchan's Chance daggerboard design "Sachem". Those boats won the world's going away. After that IOR had to change into something else. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zenmasterfred 417 #13570 Posted March 18, 2020 On 3/10/2020 at 12:33 PM, Diarmuid said: When 'hard chine' becomes 'receding chin'. On 3/10/2020 at 12:59 AM, Pipe Dream said: Something from our erstwhile friend of the Comox mud flats.... https://www.boatsales.com.au/boats/details/2019-Custom-STEEL-YACHT/SSE-AD-6572563 https://tinyurl.com/swain26 THE HORROR! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Santana20AE 211 #13571 Posted March 18, 2020 On 3/14/2020 at 7:56 PM, monsoon said: I think time won. On 3/14/2020 at 2:49 PM, toddster said: I guess I'll mock the hatchboards, but this might be a pretty decent practically free project boat - depending on what horrors lie behind the styrofoam... https://portland.craigslist.org/wsc/boa/d/warren-sailboat/7092862331.html Oh, and I'm sure there's something to be made of the name, but I'm dry. Refugee from the past? In its time when pinched sterns and broad beams and raked bows were all the norm (IOR norm that is), I thought there was something special about the hull shapes of the US branded boats. Now I know Wondering if Doug Peterson ever got a penny from the use of his designs? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SloopJonB 8,329 #13572 Posted March 18, 2020 I would guess only from the few boats that Chaser built. Second owners of tooling were notorious for not paying royalties. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Santana20AE 211 #13573 Posted March 18, 2020 2 hours ago, SloopJonB said: I would guess only from the few boats that Chaser built. Second owners of tooling were notorious for not paying royalties. Sad Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SloopJonB 8,329 #13574 Posted March 18, 2020 Binliner really blew the looks of that boat with that style of port lights. I've seen a few that had two rectangular ports aft and it looked so much better. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bmiller 751 #13575 Posted March 19, 2020 This ticks off a few boxes. 50 year old teak deck, check Needs reassembly, check Seized Yanmar, check Located in Mexico, check https://sandiego.craigslist.org/csd/boa/d/imperial-beach-cheoy-lee-offshore-27/7095160134.html The only value is in the trailer Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SloopJonB 8,329 #13576 Posted March 19, 2020 I don't see the problem - it's only been baking in the Mexican sun for an unknown number of years. And it says right in the ad that it will only take a weeks work before launching. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steam Flyer 5,087 #13577 Posted March 19, 2020 3 hours ago, bmiller said: This ticks off a few boxes. 50 year old teak deck, check Needs reassembly, check Seized Yanmar, check Located in Mexico, check https://sandiego.craigslist.org/csd/boa/d/imperial-beach-cheoy-lee-offshore-27/7095160134.html The only value is in the trailer I see no value in it anywhere, except that maybe somebody could make some nice small cabinets out of that teak. The writer of this ad included so many little jollies, "the cabin needs some cosmetic improvements too" ... I bet so. Best thing about this boat... it's not ferrocement! FB- Doug 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Israel Hands 561 #13578 Posted March 20, 2020 In Rimas range? https://eastnc.craigslist.org/boa/d/new-bern-san-juan-24-sailboat-and/7096353912.html San Juan 24 sailboat and trailer - $1500 (New Bern, NC) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
A guy in the Chesapeake 1,674 #13579 Posted March 20, 2020 ^^^^^ Your ad Israel? ;-) I don't think that's teribly mockable - looks like a decent little boat that needs a little attention. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steam Flyer 5,087 #13580 Posted March 20, 2020 4 hours ago, A guy in the Chesapeake said: ^^^^^ Your ad Israel? ;-) I don't think that's teribly mockable - looks like a decent little boat that needs a little attention 5 hours ago, Israel Hands said: In Rimas range? https://eastnc.craigslist.org/boa/d/new-bern-san-juan-24-sailboat-and/7096353912.html San Juan 24 sailboat and trailer - $1500 (New Bern, NC) Although duty-bound to mock this boat, I think it's actually not a bad deal. I would double check if it comes with that trailer though. These boats were built here, it's somewhat of a local classic although there are none in the fleet right now. Disclaimer... my own boat (well one of 'em) is just out of a couple of the pictures of this one. FB- Doug 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
A guy in the Chesapeake 1,674 #13581 Posted March 20, 2020 If there us somethin I missed? Square me away - I'm a romantic with an unfortunate savior complex. Leo and the CBMM are heroes to me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steam Flyer 5,087 #13582 Posted March 21, 2020 5 hours ago, Israel Hands said: In Rimas range? https://eastnc.craigslist.org/boa/d/new-bern-san-juan-24-sailboat-and/7096353912.html San Juan 24 sailboat and trailer - $1500 (New Bern, NC) I think mention of Rimas, the inexpensive SJ-24 connection, was Iz's intention... no real mockery This boat may fall in for some gentle mockery such as being on the wrong coast, and a bit overpriced (OTOH it has won a pretty good number of local events) https://eastnc.craigslist.org/boa/d/new-bern-santa-cruz-27-sailboat-trailer/7096343043.html is being sold by the same gentleman, and one of my boats -is- in a couple of the pics. I raced on this boat, and against this boat, will be glad if it stays in the local fleet FB- Doug Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Israel Hands 561 #13583 Posted March 21, 2020 20 minutes ago, Steam Flyer said: I think mention of Rimas, the inexpensive SJ-24 connection, was Iz's intention... no real mockery This boat may fall in for some gentle mockery such as being on the wrong coast, and a bit overpriced (OTOH it has won a pretty good number of local events) https://eastnc.craigslist.org/boa/d/new-bern-santa-cruz-27-sailboat-trailer/7096343043.html is being sold by the same gentleman, and one of my boats -is- in a couple of the pics. I raced on this boat, and against this boat, will be glad if it stays in the local fleet FB- Doug Yes Steam, it was just the tie to Rimas. The only thing to mock is maybe the crap underneath her. I saw the Santa Cruz in the ad too - sweet looking. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SloopJonB 8,329 #13584 Posted March 21, 2020 This is the SJ24 for Rimas - $200. https://sunshine.craigslist.org/boa/d/gibsons-24-ft-sail-boats-choose-from-3/7083615332.html Ads like these cause me pain - that was the new hot boat when I started sailing. They cost more than a years pay. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zenmasterfred 417 #13585 Posted March 21, 2020 A 3'fer, run away as fast and as far as you can! A friend who I was sailmaking w/ bought SJ24 stripped out from the Clark's, we totally tricked it out, was gray and called Running Dog (or the dog that runs), later raced as Grauer Gueist, it was the fastest boat in the fleet for years, possibly was a little lighter than the standard production boats but of course that was when if I could remember I wasn't there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Therapy 11 #13586 Posted March 21, 2020 18 hours ago, SloopJonB said: This is the SJ24 for Rimas - $200. https://sunshine.craigslist.org/boa/d/gibsons-24-ft-sail-boats-choose-from-3/7083615332.html Ads like these cause me pain - that was the new hot boat when I started sailing. They cost more than a years pay. 10 years pay for me! Maybe more. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bmiller 751 #13587 Posted March 21, 2020 I thought posting this in the yachtworld lusting thread because I mentioned the possibility of people bugging out on a boat. Well here ya go, a way overpriced bug out boat. https://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/boa/d/warrenton-bugout-boat-survivalist/7097003313.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites