TwoLegged 1,039 #14801 Posted January 4 In that size of boat, restoration isn't too much of a nightmare, 'cos the interior is fairly small and simple. There's a lot less to fix than on a 30-footer. The really sad bit is the story of his father wanting to sail the boat across the Atlantic. Not a great plan. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SloopJonB 8,329 #14802 Posted January 4 A kid did it on a Sea Sprite decades ago so why not? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TwoLegged 1,039 #14803 Posted January 4 1 minute ago, SloopJonB said: A kid did it on a Sea Sprite decades ago so why not? With skill and stamina, it's probably doable. But that endurance test is a young man's adventure, not an old man's swansong Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ride2live 43 #14804 Posted January 4 If attempted, it probably would be an old mans swan song. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gn4478 26 #14805 Posted January 4 5 hours ago, alphafb552 said: Couple of hours with a pressure washer, both outside and inside, would make a world of difference That's bat shit crazy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bmiller 751 #14806 Posted January 5 I'm not mocking the boat, just a question about the custom placement of the second set of primaries. Kind of a specialized idea, probably not for everyone. Really limits movement around the helm. I can't embed the full size photo, go to the ad and see the cockpit photo. https://www.sailboatlistings.com/view/89209 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SloopJonB 8,329 #14807 Posted January 5 Awkward but easy to change. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chester 671 #14808 Posted January 5 but what were they trying to accomplish? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ishmael 6,178 #14809 Posted January 5 1 hour ago, SloopJonB said: Awkward but easy to change. Yes, remove that sheet metal crossbar and you're done. That is one bizarre mod. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Diarmuid 661 #14810 Posted January 5 4 minutes ago, chester said: but what were they trying to accomplish? Slicing, dicing, making julienne potatoes? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chester 671 #14811 Posted January 5 15 minutes ago, Ishmael said: Yes, remove that sheet metal crossbar and you're done. That is one bizarre mod. I assume it was set up for double handed all the time? stick the helmsman begind the barrier and give them the wheel and the genoa sheets Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ishmael 6,178 #14812 Posted January 5 10 minutes ago, chester said: I assume it was set up for double handed all the time? stick the helmsman begind the barrier and give them the wheel and the genoa sheets Sharpen the forward edge of the crossbar and it will discourage people wanting to take over the wheel. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Israel Hands 561 #14813 Posted January 6 All this sailing fun, for only $34K??? https://www.sailboatlistings.com/view/88187 26' Macgregor 26M Year Length Beam Draft Location Price 2011 26' ' ' California $34,000 Description: We don't downgrade; we upgrade, so this beautiful 2011, 26 foot MacGregor Sailboat with a 60 HP evinrude could be your pandemic and riot proof bugout! It has a chart plotter, auto pilot, a trickle charging solar system, and much much more! This boat also comes with the trailer, but not the Captain or First Mate! I wonder if they have waterskiis to go with that thing? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
andykane 130 #14814 Posted January 6 This is only a semi-mock, because the boat looks like it's gone places and seen things, and it does include storage room for skis. But this air cooled, totally open engine installation caught my eye. I can only imagine the racket... The ad does say "The engine and battery bank are both easily accessed" https://seattle.craigslist.org/kit/bod/d/nordland-ft-custom-steel-cutter/7257474071.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
167149 139 #14815 Posted January 6 2 hours ago, andykane said: This is only a semi-mock, because the boat looks like it's gone places and seen things, and it does include storage room for skis. But this air cooled, totally open engine installation caught my eye. I can only imagine the racket... The ad does say "The engine and battery bank are both easily accessed" https://seattle.craigslist.org/kit/bod/d/nordland-ft-custom-steel-cutter/7257474071.html isnt that a Deutz aircooled? those blowers do make a racket Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SloopJonB 8,329 #14816 Posted January 6 That boat belongs in the Low Tech thread. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TwoLegged 1,039 #14817 Posted January 6 10 minutes ago, SloopJonB said: That boat belongs in the Low Tech thread. SPEAK UP! I CAN'T HEAR YOU!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Black Sox 719 #14818 Posted January 6 On 1/3/2021 at 2:03 PM, Steam Flyer said: Well, at least he got the companionway relatively centered. I can't imagine anybody who spent any time on or around boats, or even looking at pictures of real boats, and thinking that vthisv was an appropriate "door" for getting in/out of the thing. he touched a couple of other high points "The boat is structurally complete. Just needs finishing touches. Located in Gwinn, MI at the home of the builder. Buyer may finish on-site. Includes: Dual hydraulic steering stations, holding tanks, 60 gal fuel tank. Available to be installed 24 mile radar fathometer, forward sonar, white spruce on site for mast, schooner or ketch rig," Translation: I have no equipment for moving this thing, and no idea how to go about it. No sail plan and no idea about that either, but you're welcome to cut down a couple of trees. I bet if you contact him to go look at it, the seller will ask you to bring beer. FB- Doug The door was built that way on purpose after studying 1000s of door designs. A clear advantage is that the windows allow you to watch your victims, sorry prospective buyers, sorry pandemic food source, sorry passengers, as they battle to the death over the scraps of food you toss in every now and then. This is not a boat, as we understand the term. It’s a harvesting device. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chester 671 #14819 Posted January 6 5 hours ago, Black Sox said: The door was built that way on purpose after studying 1000s of door designs. A clear advantage is that the windows allow you to watch your victims, sorry prospective buyers, sorry pandemic food source, sorry passengers, as they battle to the death over the scraps of food you toss in every now and then. This is not a boat, as we understand the term. It’s a harvesting device. Yikes, Black sox! Y'all wen pretty dark there! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SloopJonB 8,329 #14820 Posted January 6 8 hours ago, Black Sox said: The door was built that way on purpose after studying 1000s of door designs. A clear advantage is that the windows allow you to watch your victims, sorry prospective buyers, sorry pandemic food source, sorry passengers, as they battle to the death over the scraps of food you toss in every now and then. This is not a boat, as we understand the term. It’s a harvesting device. That door is Brent Swain approved. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Black Sox 719 #14821 Posted January 6 3 hours ago, chester said: Yikes, Black sox! Y'all wen pretty dark there! Dark times we’re living in, Bro. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Diarmuid 661 #14822 Posted January 6 9 hours ago, Black Sox said: This is not a boat, as we understand the term. It’s a harvesting device. (Source for joke.) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Black Sox 719 #14823 Posted January 6 1 hour ago, Diarmuid said: (Source for joke.) Golf clap. ”I find thee apt.” 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steam Flyer 5,087 #14824 Posted January 6 2 hours ago, Black Sox said: Dark times we’re living in, Bro. I hear a voice saying "it rubs the lotion on it's skin" FB- Doug Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Winston29 75 #14825 Posted January 6 On 1/3/2021 at 8:10 AM, Ishmael said: As a bonus, once the door is opened, rain and boarding seas can pour in. When opened, the door also completely blocks the ladder. Genius! What happened to the original builder? Did he realize his multiple mistakes and kill himself?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Diarmuid 661 #14826 Posted January 6 1 hour ago, Winston29 said: What happened to the original builder? Did he realize his multiple mistakes and kill himself?? Hit by a door, plunged headfirst down a ladder. Coincidentally. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chester 671 #14827 Posted January 6 6 hours ago, Black Sox said: Dark times we’re living in, Bro. can't argue with that Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chester 671 #14828 Posted January 6 5 hours ago, Diarmuid said: (Source for joke.) yikes! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sailman 151 #14829 Posted January 7 1 hour ago, chester said: yikes! At least it’s not off center Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bmiller 751 #14830 Posted January 7 I dont think that's a catalina 30 https://sandiego.craigslist.org/csd/boa/d/san-diego-catalina/7255546422.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CriticalPath 81 #14831 Posted January 7 40 minutes ago, bmiller said: I dont think that's a catalina 30 https://sandiego.craigslist.org/csd/boa/d/san-diego-catalina/7255546422.html Allied Chance 30.30 https://sailboatdata.com/sailboat/chance-30-30-allied Cheers! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bmiller 751 #14832 Posted January 7 32 minutes ago, CriticalPath said: Allied Chance 30.30 https://sailboatdata.com/sailboat/chance-30-30-allied Cheers! Aha, the name is "Taking A Chance" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CriticalPath 81 #14833 Posted January 7 1 hour ago, bmiller said: Aha, the name is "Taking A Chance" Yeah, it was pretty common for the 30.30's names to be a play on the words. My buddy owned hull #1 and it was named "Chancy". The idea permeates through the X-Yachts and Express fleets too! Cheers! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
10thTonner 266 #14834 Posted January 8 On 1/7/2021 at 5:03 PM, CriticalPath said: Yeah, it was pretty common for the 30.30's names to be a play on the words. My buddy owned hull #1 and it was named "Chancy". The idea permeates through the X-Yachts and Express fleets too! Cheers! Catamarans and the Italian Asso class are equally “creative”. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dilligaf0220 108 #14835 Posted January 13 $35k for an Alberg 30 project. And you thought the pristine better than new example on Atom Voyages was overpriced. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TwoLegged 1,039 #14836 Posted January 13 5 minutes ago, Dilligaf0220 said: $35k for an Alberg 30 project. And you thought the pristine better than new example on Atom Voyages was overpriced. That boat appears to have an electric drive. So I presume that owner is unaware of the dime-on-the-dollar rule, and is trying to recoup the cost of that gadget ... despite the boat's interior appearing to be evidence of a local varnish famine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Autonomous 369 #14837 Posted January 13 They are trying to recoup the elect motor conversion... and some blue sky too. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bmiller 751 #14838 Posted January 13 5 hours ago, Dilligaf0220 said: $35k for an Alberg 30 project. And you thought the pristine better than new example on Atom Voyages was overpriced. But it goes to weather at 55 mph. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
On The Hard 358 #14839 Posted January 13 https://corpuschristi.craigslist.org/boa/d/corpus-christi-columbia-22-sailboat/7240801990.html Where do I start? Have to admire the poster's optimism though. Sad ending Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SloopJonB 8,329 #14840 Posted January 13 Just the usual "Pay me for the right to haul my garbage away" 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dilligaf0220 108 #14841 Posted January 14 18 hours ago, TwoLegged said: That boat appears to have an electric drive. So I presume that owner is unaware of the dime-on-the-dollar rule, and is trying to recoup the cost of that gadget ... despite the boat's interior appearing to be evidence of a local varnish famine. The motor conversion with battery bank is at most $7500. 12 hours ago, bmiller said: But it goes to weather at 55 mph. It is a nice trailer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
On The Hard 358 #14842 Posted January 18 This isn't so much mocking, as much as just makes me want to cry. I can only imagine what this once fine boat must be like now Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AgentLocke 1 #14843 Posted January 18 1 hour ago, On The Hard said: This isn't so much mocking, as much as just makes me want to cry. If that were on the West Coast, I would be taking a very close look... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RogerC 8 #14844 Posted January 18 This poor guy... First of all: Kijiji is pretty much the Canadian version of Craigslist. https://www.kijiji.ca/v-sailboat/calgary/sail-cutter/1515585636 He's trying to sell a half partial steel hull. Currently located in Calgary, Alberta, Canada. One might note the distance from Calgary to any navigable bluewater coast. One might also note that there is a mountain range between Calgary and the nearest coast. I wish him the best, I really do, but I feel this one is going to end up as so many razor blades. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Diarmuid 661 #14845 Posted January 18 4 minutes ago, RogerC said: One might note the distance from Calgary to any navigable bluewater coast. One might also note that there is a mountain range between Calgary and the nearest coast. Bunch of friends, several cases of beer ... Fitzcarraldo that biotch! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bristol-Cruiser 1,065 #14846 Posted January 18 On 1/13/2021 at 1:00 AM, Dilligaf0220 said: $35k for an Alberg 30 project. And you thought the pristine better than new example on Atom Voyages was overpriced. Some of the sails are only 10 years old. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chester 671 #14847 Posted January 18 40 minutes ago, RogerC said: This poor guy... First of all: Kijiji is pretty much the Canadian version of Craigslist. https://www.kijiji.ca/v-sailboat/calgary/sail-cutter/1515585636 He's trying to sell a half partial steel hull. Currently located in Calgary, Alberta, Canada. One might note the distance from Calgary to any navigable bluewater coast. One might also note that there is a mountain range between Calgary and the nearest coast. I wish him the best, I really do, but I feel this one is going to end up as so many razor blades. neasrest as the crow flys but haul it south to the sea of cortez or the gulf and it's a straight shot with no mountain crossing required Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SloopJonB 8,329 #14848 Posted January 19 3 hours ago, chester said: neasrest as the crow flys but haul it south to the sea of cortez or the gulf and it's a straight shot with no mountain crossing required Only one problem with that. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Autonomous 369 #14849 Posted January 19 7 hours ago, RogerC said: This poor guy... First of all: Kijiji is pretty much the Canadian version of Craigslist. https://www.kijiji.ca/v-sailboat/calgary/sail-cutter/1515585636 He's trying to sell a half partial steel hull. Currently located in Calgary, Alberta, Canada. One might note the distance from Calgary to any navigable bluewater coast. One might also note that there is a mountain range between Calgary and the nearest coast. I wish him the best, I really do, but I feel this one is going to end up as so many razor blades. These broken dreams are tough to see. J. Simpson is a competent design house. The project has potential. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ishmael 6,178 #14850 Posted January 19 7 hours ago, chester said: neasrest as the crow flys but haul it south to the sea of cortez or the gulf and it's a straight shot with no mountain crossing required Yes, but who is going to bother? It's apparently a large structure built to keep that engine dry with some random plywood bits thrown in. 100 hours on an engine in a boat that's never been launched. Probably worth it for the bits. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fah Kiew Tu 2,020 #14851 Posted January 19 9 hours ago, RogerC said: This poor guy... First of all: Kijiji is pretty much the Canadian version of Craigslist. https://www.kijiji.ca/v-sailboat/calgary/sail-cutter/1515585636 He's trying to sell a half partial steel hull. Currently located in Calgary, Alberta, Canada. One might note the distance from Calgary to any navigable bluewater coast. One might also note that there is a mountain range between Calgary and the nearest coast. I wish him the best, I really do, but I feel this one is going to end up as so many razor blades. I looked at those pictures and while the building/welding all looks well done, I see wooden boat features that make no sense on a steel hull and massive future rust traps that are going to be really difficult to maintain. Hard to say if it's reasonable value or not - depends on what all the stuff that goes with the boat is worth. The hull as-is in its unfinished state is worthless really. Too much effort needed to finish it when there are a lot already in the water. I passed on a similar deal recently (well I resisted going to look at it until it went away.... just in case it followed me home) FKT Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Irrational 14 172 #14852 Posted January 20 Found this gem by accident. Even better on the inside. https://sfbay.craigslist.org/pen/boa/d/south-san-francisco-1974-r26-sailboat/7261717763.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
toddster 464 #14853 Posted January 20 53 minutes ago, Irrational 14 said: Found this gem by accident. Even better on the inside. https://sfbay.craigslist.org/pen/boa/d/south-san-francisco-1974-r26-sailboat/7261717763.html There is a lot of... cargo on that little boat. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steam Flyer 5,087 #14854 Posted January 20 54 minutes ago, Irrational 14 said: Found this gem by accident. Even better on the inside. https://sfbay.craigslist.org/pen/boa/d/south-san-francisco-1974-r26-sailboat/7261717763.html "1 or 2 mains" Poor math skills, or not sure what a mainsail looks like? - DSK Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ishmael 6,178 #14855 Posted January 20 1 hour ago, Irrational 14 said: Found this gem by accident. Even better on the inside. https://sfbay.craigslist.org/pen/boa/d/south-san-francisco-1974-r26-sailboat/7261717763.html Well, that's...eclectic. And looks odorous. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sculpin 102 #14856 Posted January 20 "ready to sail" - I wouldn't want to be below while tacking, one would be buried alive in junk... Interesting paint job. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pertsa 83 #14857 Posted January 20 I count at least 4 outboards. Quote Some of the electronics,sailing gear harness,life raft , techsun ssb radio,handheld ,laptop gps,generator,vhf,refrigerator,solar panels won't be going with boat,what I'm asking 5000obo or close to that you will get the boat,all the sails,the main outboard,with the boat the self steering vane, lifejackets and bare boat also a boat dinghy with electric motors cabin gonna need new cushions so you can customize or make your own So you dont need to clean it by yourself Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ajax 2,043 #14858 Posted January 20 12 hours ago, toddster said: There is a lot of... cargo on that little boat. If you're going to clutter your foredeck with a hard dinghy, at least get a classic or something more visually appealing. That thing is a tub. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Funky 5 #14859 Posted January 20 11 hours ago, Ishmael said: Well, that's...eclectic. And looks odorous. And you get a nice hat. Makes you a faumous sailor like Rimus! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steam Flyer 5,087 #14860 Posted January 20 33 minutes ago, Ajax said: If you're going to clutter your foredeck with a hard dinghy, at least get a classic or something more visually appealing. That thing is a tub. The key to life on a small boat is multi tasking. Yes it's a tub. In the same theme, it can be paddled with a shovel FB- Doug Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SloopJonB 8,329 #14861 Posted January 21 Apparently some people think Covid has bumped prices a bit. $15K for a $5K boat. In the dead of winter to boot. https://vancouver.craigslist.org/van/boa/d/burnaby-classic-1976-grampian-26/7265263631.html 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TwoLegged 1,039 #14862 Posted January 21 18 minutes ago, SloopJonB said: Apparently some people think Covid has bumped prices a bit. $15K for a $5K boat. In the dead of winter to boot. https://vancouver.craigslist.org/van/boa/d/burnaby-classic-1976-grampian-26/7265263631.html Looks like it is set up as a tiny liveaboard. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dilligaf0220 108 #14863 Posted January 21 Canadians are always nutty with their used crap pricing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ajax 2,043 #14864 Posted January 21 It often seems to be liveaboards who do this. Someone should tell these folks that boats don't comp with dirt home prices. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Diarmuid 661 #14865 Posted January 21 On 1/20/2021 at 7:20 AM, Steam Flyer said: The key to life on a small boat is multi tasking. Yes it's a tub. In the same theme, it can be paddled with a shovel FB- Doug Not enuf people will appreciate this reference.^^^ 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vaeredil 83 #14866 Posted January 25 Hey, here we go. Hope this hasn't been posted before. From the deplorable side (facebook marketplace) "23 Foot Bill Garden Pilothouse sloop Perfect for a summer in the Gulf Islands Has a newer Honda 9.9 HP Four Stoke, Runs clean and quiet. Electric start, Full set of sails For Sale or Trade for what have you. Diesel Furnace Stereo Marine Head Anchor windless Upgrade Self tailing winches 2014 Honda ESpec Four stroke 9.9 HP Full keel with Bulbous Lead wing Fresh paint top to bottom" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vaeredil 83 #14867 Posted January 25 It's the pilot house addition? That is especially mockworthy, and all the little details that are just odd... not sure WHAT to think... https://m.facebook.com/marketplace/item/659456604655559/?ref=browse_tab&search_query=Sailboat&tracking={"qid"%3A"6921563070428150279"%2C"mf_story_key"%3A"2806541032783651"%2C"commerce_rank_obj"%3A"{\"target_id\"%3A2806541032783651%2C\"target_type\"%3A0%2C\"primary_position\"%3A-1%2C\"ranking_signature\"%3A0%2C\"commerce_channel\"%3A503%2C\"value\"%3A0%2C\"upsell_type\"%3Anull}"} Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ajax 2,043 #14868 Posted January 25 It's 2021. Why do these photos look as if they were taken with a 750 pixel digital camera? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bugsy 436 #14869 Posted January 25 I have never seen a teak grate (typically intended for cockpit sole) re-purposed as a table. Thinking of all the feet that trod on that grate would make me lose my appetite. And I don't think a grate makes a very effective table. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CriticalPath 81 #14870 Posted January 25 You've led a sheltered life... https://www.google.com/search?q=teak+outdoor+table+grated&client=firefox-b-d&sxsrf=ALeKk03Ou1DoOhNoFKe7eDx-bX85dBdFZw:1611586277566&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwj2neXcqrfuAhWiSTABHVT_A3AQ_AUoAnoECA0QBA&biw=1280&bih=607 There's a set of outdoor teak furniture with grated dining and side tables that looks and works great at the house I bought for my ex... Cheers! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Elegua 826 #14871 Posted January 25 3 hours ago, Ajax said: It's 2021. Why do these photos look as if they were taken with a 750 pixel digital camera? They were probably taken in 2000. You should see the boat now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bugsy 436 #14872 Posted January 25 3 hours ago, CriticalPath said: You've led a sheltered life... Yes, I obviously have. Thank you Mr Path. And you say they work "great". Clever. (Great? Grate? get it? hahahha). 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
py26129 82 #14873 Posted January 25 8 hours ago, CriticalPath said: You've led a sheltered life... https://www.google.com/search?q=teak+outdoor+table+grated&client=firefox-b-d&sxsrf=ALeKk03Ou1DoOhNoFKe7eDx-bX85dBdFZw:1611586277566&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwj2neXcqrfuAhWiSTABHVT_A3AQ_AUoAnoECA0QBA&biw=1280&bih=607 There's a set of outdoor teak furniture with grated dining and side tables that looks and works great at the house I bought for my ex... Cheers! We used a grated folding Ikea table that as a cockpit table for years. We enjoyed many meals without a problem Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TwoLegged 1,039 #14874 Posted January 25 10 hours ago, Bugsy said: I have never seen a teak grate (typically intended for cockpit sole) re-purposed as a table. Thinking of all the feet that trod on that grate would make me lose my appetite. i can't see the problem. Wash it, give it a bit of a sanding, and enjoy your meal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
slap 425 #14875 Posted January 26 12 hours ago, Bugsy said: I have never seen a teak grate (typically intended for cockpit sole) re-purposed as a table. Thinking of all the feet that trod on that grate would make me lose my appetite. And I don't think a grate makes a very effective table. Think of all the animals and insects that took a shit on vegetables and fruits that later you ate. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SloopJonB 8,329 #14876 Posted January 26 Not to mention that girl that you... Well, maybe you didn't. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
167149 139 #14877 Posted January 26 On 1/22/2021 at 6:05 AM, Diarmuid said: Not enuf people will appreciate this reference.^^^ i do, ..... says he counting his fingers.......... 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jim in Halifax 252 #14878 Posted January 29 Well this at least with this one, the offset companionway is the least of your down flooding worries... https://www.kijiji.ca/v-sailboat/city-of-halifax/36-foot-sailboat-project/1548387547 The ferrocement hull actually might be its best feature... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bmiller 751 #14879 Posted February 1 At least they don't want you to pay for the privilege of hauling away their trash. THE SAILBOAT IS FREE. All you need to do is pump it out and trailer it away. https://www.sailboatlistings.com/view/89451 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steam Flyer 5,087 #14880 Posted February 1 1 hour ago, bmiller said: At least they don't want you to pay for the privilege of hauling away their trash. THE SAILBOAT IS FREE. All you need to do is pump it out and trailer it away. https://www.sailboatlistings.com/view/89451 That'll buff right out The guy should have thought of drilling holes in the bottom to let the water out FB- Doug Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marcjsmith 464 #14881 Posted February 1 that port side aft "stilt" that is ripe for NQR Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Diarmuid 661 #14882 Posted February 1 24 minutes ago, Marcjsmith said: that port side aft "stilt" that is ripe for NQR Improves its IOR rating a treat, tho. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steam Flyer 5,087 #14883 Posted February 1 55 minutes ago, Diarmuid said: 1 hour ago, Marcjsmith said: that port side aft "stilt" that is ripe for NQR Improves its IOR rating a treat, tho. Sure, but let's be fair.... the IOR rating is supposed to be for it's speed thru the water, NOT vertically FB- Doug Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Windward 362 #14884 Posted February 1 56 minutes ago, Diarmuid said: Improves its IOR rating a treat, tho. Kind of like the dimples on a golf ball? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Diarmuid 661 #14885 Posted February 2 8 hours ago, Windward said: Kind of like the dimples on a golf ball? Kind of like the dimples on a Finngulf 34: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Windward 362 #14886 Posted February 2 29 minutes ago, Diarmuid said: Kind of like the dimples on a Finngulf 34: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4EYES 6 #14887 Posted February 2 On 12/15/2020 at 4:14 PM, Diarmuid said: Wit attributed to Winston Churchill, though it sounds to me more like GB Shaw. That rule and many others (split infinitive, etc) can be traced directly to 17th and 18th century prescriptivists -- people who thought English should follow the rules of classical Latin and Greek. But of course, English is not of that ilk. English is Dutch, give or take a Frisian. Germanic languages certainly may split infinitives, end sentences with prepositions, and pile auxiliary verbs seven deep. I shade toward the 'grouchy descriptivist' camp, where usage is determined organically and may change with time, though we might snark about it. So most of my peeves involve people who use words without knowing their meanings. Like 'unique' (without equal; a one-off) or 'irregardless' (pointless mangling of the word 'regardless') or, famously, this: Eventually 'very unique' visigoths will breach our snark defenses, kill all grammarians within the town, and declare themselves the new reality. I'll be one of the dead underfoot, and that's okay. That sort of blood-drenched turnover is how English got so cool. Hopefully the thread worn phrase, "like no other" is among the collateral damage of the battle. To hear that spoken is like fingernails on a blackboard to me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
toddster 464 #14888 Posted February 2 I once wrote earnestly to NASA PR drones that they should stop using the word “incredible”. They thanked me for my input and doubled down on it. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
