Excoded Tom 1,555 Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 2 hours ago, furr_ball said: For your viewing mocking pleasure......I offer you FREE........unbelievable.......yes...... He is honest about it requiring work That's just a sad Zombie. The panoramic view of the clutter was disorienting. The bow pulpit appears serviceable, can't believe it wasn't scavenged when the rest was stripped. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hukilau 129 Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 4 hours ago, furr_ball said: More gold from down south. The franken dragon gave so much........ For your viewing mocking pleasure......I offer you FREE........unbelievable.......yes...... He is honest about it requiring work https://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/strathpine/sail-boats/35ft-yacht-free/1209653901 35ft yacht Free Free strathpine Still available, please be aware it will need a lot of work. No engine, No sail gear. No mast. A 35ft concrete hull yacht, has no engine. Mast has been dropped and removed . Requires a lot of work. I’m listing this for my father, he is not able to do anything with it anymore. Yacht is located in cabbage tree creek. If you’re serious about taking it then message me and I can pass contact details on to you. It is a take it away or make your own arrangements with mooring it deal though. Yacht is available as is. Please don’t message me asking questions, I have no idea about a lot of it. I admire two things: that someone at one time thought they could do something with this, and that someone is deluded enough to say to themselves "you know what will sell this bad boy? A panoramic shot that really highlights the challenge!" Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sail4beer 2,223 Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 Sometimes even an old naked whore gets a shot. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
A guy in the Chesapeake 1,674 Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 13 hours ago, Contumacious Tom said: It weighs 260 lbs. It's only 12 feet long. It might carry a person, but the person couldn't carry it. I think it would sit awfully low in the water if you were bold enough to get aboard. I'd give it a shot in warm water after checking pockets for things that shouldn't get wet. 12'? 260lbs? Somebody oughta send him a copy of Marc Pettingill's "Building Sweet Dream" - 12'6" and about 28 lbs, outta 2 sheets of 1/4 marine grade ply. Flatwater paddler, limited capacity ( 275lbs) - but, a stiff, nice paddling little canoe. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Norse Horse 611 Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 6 hours ago, Foiling Optimist said: Regarding the dugout, it's possible it was a larger, crappier version of Paddle to the Sea that someone forgot to put back in the water. (Warning: Important Canadian cultural artifact follows): I first saw this at Killbear Park near Parry Sound, way back when. They had a movie screen back then. There was another one I remember, a guy in a canoe going through the geological times of the Great Lakes. It was a humourous film that had the crowd roaring. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
d'ranger 2,745 Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 12 hours ago, stumblingthunder said: It also looks like that it has not had the gunnels steamed to widen it. As stated before, it is a carved log shape, its going to roll like a log. I have paddled a log canoe before, with widened gunnels. It still rolls in an instant. - Stumbling Because it's log rhythmic. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SloopJonB 8,583 Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 3 hours ago, Hukilau said: I admire two things: that someone at one time thought they could do something with this, and that someone is deluded enough to say to themselves "you know what will sell this bad boy? A panoramic shot that really highlights the challenge!" A ferro Endurance 35 it seems. They've been giving away similar or better glass ones around here. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stumblingthunder 576 Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 1 hour ago, d'ranger said: Because it's log rhythmic. Your response is so derivative that it results in an inverse reaction. - Stumbling 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Machsquad 12 Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 Came across these two gems last night. https://www.kijiji.ca/v-sailboat/bedford/32-foot-sail-boat-with-trailer/1410434593?enableSearchNavigationFlag=true\ Has been out off water for a few years and will need some work. Comes with everything you need to sail Asking$3000 https://www.kijiji.ca/v-sailboat/city-of-halifax/28-foot-sailboat-irwin/1355157196?enableSearchNavigationFlag=true THIS BOAT IS A PROJECT HAD A FIRE BELOW DECK BUT THE HULL IS SOUND , ASKING $ 1250 OBO Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Norse Horse 611 Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 The steel sharpie failure has a head with a wooden seat and a cooler. Officer-"May I see your alcohol sir...?" Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Autonomous 378 Posted February 11, 2019 Share Posted February 11, 2019 Freeboard? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AnotherSailor 258 Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 5 hours ago, Autonomous said: Freeboard? seems to me like it is also missing something underwater... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AnotherSailor 258 Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 16 hours ago, furr_ball said: More gold from down south. The franken dragon gave so much........ For your viewing mocking pleasure......I offer you FREE........unbelievable.......yes...... He is honest about it requiring work https://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/strathpine/sail-boats/35ft-yacht-free/1209653901 35ft yacht Free Free strathpine Still available, please be aware it will need a lot of work. No engine, No sail gear. No mast. A 35ft concrete hull yacht, has no engine. Mast has been dropped and removed . Requires a lot of work. I’m listing this for my father, he is not able to do anything with it anymore. Yacht is located in cabbage tree creek. If you’re serious about taking it then message me and I can pass contact details on to you. It is a take it away or make your own arrangements with mooring it deal though. Yacht is available as is. Please don’t message me asking questions, I have no idea about a lot of it. Not even sure if "requiring work" is close to honest. I think that scuttling it in a very deep part of the sea is what it mostly needs... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Excoded Tom 1,555 Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 6 hours ago, Autonomous said: Freeboard? No. Offset companionway? Yes. It's difficult to see how it survived and got safely back on land. You can have a cool looking Sharpie or a boat with an interior, but not both. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hukilau 129 Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 10 hours ago, Norse Horse said: I first saw this at Killbear Park near Parry Sound, way back when. They had a movie screen back then. There was another one I remember, a guy in a canoe going through the geological times of the Great Lakes. It was a humourous film that had the crowd roaring. Oh good gravy! I haven't seen that since I was a boy waaaay back when. They showed the film to us in school, and it made quite the impression on me then. Thank you so much for sharing. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Steam Flyer 5,285 Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 3 hours ago, AnotherSailor said: Not even sure if "requiring work" is close to honest. I think that scuttling it in a very deep part of the sea is what it mostly needs... I think it should be dragged up on shore and covered with dirt. The ocean doesn't deserve such ill treatment Neither does dirt, really, but it will have less effect on the environment that way FB- Doug Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Foiling Optimist 248 Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 If you could combine the boat with the burned out interior with the ferro boat that needs work, you'd have a ferro boat with a burned out interior, which if really thoroughly consumed, would be potentially the least environmentally damaging boat to sink. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Machsquad 12 Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 4 hours ago, Contumacious Tom said: No. Offset companionway? Yes. It's difficult to see how it survived and got safely back on land. You can have a cool looking Sharpie or a boat with an interior, but not both. It's the solid welding life lines that kept her afloat... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Zonker 2,853 Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 https://vancouver.craigslist.org/van/boa/d/vancouver-sailing-partners-wanted-be/6810210374.html Sailing Partners Wanted - Be Part of the Adventure - $20000 Sailing Partners Wanted - Be Part of the Adventure This is an opportunity for people who are looking to live life to the fullest and to challenge themselves. I have a beautiful classical wooden sailing ship - a 23 meter traditional Danish ketch. "Labora" is set up for extensive expedition style sailing to rugged and remote areas of the world, like the Arctic and Tropics. The outfitting is 90% complete. Come in as an executive with equity share of $20,000 to 50,000 and you will live the excitement of the creation of this project: developing the boat and her expeditions, along with the concept of the sailing club. The business is built around Liberty International Sailing Club. The boat will be supported by like minded club members joining for seamanship training and extended cruising. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Ed 439 Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 1 hour ago, Zonker said: https://vancouver.craigslist.org/van/boa/d/vancouver-sailing-partners-wanted-be/6810210374.html Sailing Partners Wanted - Be Part of the Adventure - $20000 Sailing Partners Wanted - Be Part of the Adventure This is an opportunity for people who are looking to live life to the fullest and to challenge themselves. I have a beautiful classical wooden sailing ship - a 23 meter traditional Danish ketch. "Labora" is set up for extensive expedition style sailing to rugged and remote areas of the world, like the Arctic and Tropics. The outfitting is 90% complete. Come in as an executive with equity share of $20,000 to 50,000 and you will live the excitement of the creation of this project: developing the boat and her expeditions, along with the concept of the sailing club. The business is built around Liberty International Sailing Club. The boat will be supported by like minded club members joining for seamanship training and extended cruising. 90%! No worries there then. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Excoded Tom 1,555 Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 6 hours ago, Zonker said: Sailing Partners Wanted - Be Part of the Adventure - $20000 With a headline like that, who could resist visiting their website to learn more? Not me. Quote The membership fee is $50 US per year, and membership entitles you to Updates about Labora and progress of the trips, including articles, photos and videos Access to members-only areas of the website Input for the project's expeditions, destinations and themes Access to the clubhouse, the S/V Labora, and other club equipment such as the sailing skiff and diving gear, during downtime between journeys. No matter where in the world the ship is, you can come and stay for a week or more at a time and help with maintenance and upgrades. This is of particular interest to those who are considering investing in a boat of their own in the future. You can share your knowledge and experience with the club and learn new skills at the same time, and meet like minded people from around the globe in a relaxed environment. As a club member, you may also donate for the maintenance and upgrading of the ship. With these donations you are able to take part in expeditions and be part of the crew learning traditional seamanship on the Labora. There is no minimum donation, and each dollar donated equals one point toward sailing time. 400 points are redeemable for one week of expedition time, and each additional week is 300 points. We encourage longer voyages, as spending more time aboard is a better to ingrain the skills deeper and to keep the knowledge learned in the memory for longer periods of time. The points are redeemable for yourself or as a gift to another, and the points do not expire so you can wait until a bunk on the journey that interests you most becomes available. Or until the 90% becomes 100%. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SloopJonB 8,583 Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 It's actually 85% complete. I think you knew that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Norse Horse 611 Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 As opposed to 85 % decomposed...tabernacle Not sure what it was, Teenee is a trailer brand I think...https://abbotsford.craigslist.org/boa/d/16-sailboat-trailer-project/6801452011.html Quote Link to post Share on other sites
alphafb552 516 Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 “Transom needs to be replaced”, so the front deck is fine I guess? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ishmael 6,419 Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 51 minutes ago, alphafb552 said: “Transom needs to be replaced”, so the front deck is fine I guess? A bit of paint and it will be fine. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Steam Flyer 5,285 Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 1 hour ago, Ishmael said: A bit of paint and it will be fine. Criminy that's not even poor-grade fire wood. Trailer doesn't look like it's worth bothering with either. FB- Doug Quote Link to post Share on other sites
woahboy 215 Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 5 hours ago, SloopJonB said: It's actually 85% complete. I think you knew that. Well then, there you go. Let’s go sailing! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
woahboy 215 Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 10 minutes ago, Steam Flyer said: Criminy that's not even poor-grade fire wood. Trailer doesn't look like it's worth bothering with either. FB- Doug I’d only go near that in a hazmat suit. That could be a superfund site in the near future. Or photos for a book titled “How not to store your boat”. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SloopJonB 8,583 Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 2 hours ago, Ishmael said: A bit of paint and it will be fine. All it needs. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
slap 434 Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 1 hour ago, SloopJonB said: All it needs. More like: 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Foiling Optimist 248 Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 You will note there are indeed brass clock and pressure measuring thingies on the wall here. This confirms the Labora must be at least 84% complete so 90% is definitely in the ballpark. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AnotherSailor 258 Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 20 hours ago, Zonker said: https://vancouver.craigslist.org/van/boa/d/vancouver-sailing-partners-wanted-be/6810210374.html Sailing Partners Wanted - Be Part of the Adventure - $20000 Sailing Partners Wanted - Be Part of the Adventure This is an opportunity for people who are looking to live life to the fullest and to challenge themselves. I have a beautiful classical wooden sailing ship - a 23 meter traditional Danish ketch. "Labora" is set up for extensive expedition style sailing to rugged and remote areas of the world, like the Arctic and Tropics. The outfitting is 90% complete. Come in as an executive with equity share of $20,000 to 50,000 and you will live the excitement of the creation of this project: developing the boat and her expeditions, along with the concept of the sailing club. The business is built around Liberty International Sailing Club. The boat will be supported by like minded club members joining for seamanship training and extended cruising. It is a beautiful boat, with a lot of work completed and in the water (I would say my boat, which I sail regularly, is less than 90% completed, because what boat is complete?), so I am not sure how mock-worthy this ad is. Yes, finding sailing partners with some cash this way is probably a little desperate, but not a horrible investment if you get along with the skipper, who seems to be experienced. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AnotherSailor 258 Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 On 2/11/2019 at 8:02 PM, Steam Flyer said: I think it should be dragged up on shore and covered with dirt. The ocean doesn't deserve such ill treatment Neither does dirt, really, but it will have less effect on the environment that way FB- Doug Yep, really a catch 22, isn't it... what to do with pieces of shit like that... maybe dump it on a Trump golf course? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Excoded Tom 1,555 Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 16 hours ago, Norse Horse said: As opposed to 85 % decomposed...tabernacle Not sure what it was, Teenee is a trailer brand I think...https://abbotsford.craigslist.org/boa/d/16-sailboat-trailer-project/6801452011.html They say that one man's trash is another man's treasure. My father was a trash pile shopper and got some great stuff. But other than the 50+kilos of aluminum, that's EVERY man's trash. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SloopJonB 8,583 Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 Here's an opportunity not to be missed - complete, new in the tube plans for a 40' ferro. Burn them with fire! Plans for 40 ft. Ketch (N. Delta) Complete plans for a Samson Marine Design 40 ft. C-Smoke Still in original packing. (tubes 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Diarmuid 706 Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 3 hours ago, SloopJonB said: Here's an opportunity not to be missed - complete, new in the tube plans for a 40' ferro. Burn them with fire! Plans for 40 ft. Ketch (N. Delta) Complete plans for a Samson Marine Design 40 ft. C-Smoke Still in original packing. (tubes Q: What's the best place for a 40' ferrocement sailboat? A: In that tube. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mitre cut 68 Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/boats-marine/yachts/keeler/auction-1952202256.htm?rsqid=a75bafb5a4d04139835294f326d0f0a7 How about this one for tell it like it is... This vessel, while not particularly suitable for the marine environment, would make a fabulous sleep out, bunker or tsunami shelter. This boat was a labour of love over many years and despite its major fail as a sailboat it deserves to be repurposed. Hanetta is being sold on behalf of the Mana Cruising Club. Purchaser is responsible for removal of the vessel within 14 days. The club will load vessel free of charge onto transporter. If buy now is used the club will also contribute $500 towards moving costs. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SloopJonB 8,583 Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 Was that built by that Northern outfit in Anacortes? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lark 1,470 Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 Wasn’t particularly suited for a marine environment? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Excoded Tom 1,555 Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 3 hours ago, Mitre cut said: How about this one for tell it like it is... Lacks a lot of details. So much WTF in one picture. But mainly: are those really solid wooden masts? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
alphafb552 516 Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 2 hours ago, Contumacious Tom said: Lacks a lot of details. Flotation, for one thing. Seriously, the thing looks like a pregnant AND obese whale out of the water - how heavily overbuilt must that thing be??? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stumblingthunder 576 Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 https://www.sailboatlistings.com/view/77922 I am mocking the lack of proofreading of the contents of the description: "Morgan 41 yawl for sale $37,500 (Not the Out Island version ) Linda Marie, designed as full keel, centerboard configuration with a 43 draft with the board up and 94 when fully extended. A stable off wind performance and balanced upwind capability. Highly desirable yawl sail plan provides a range of options for reducing sail. Combination genoa/mizzen sail propels the boat comfortably near hull speed. The Morgan 41 yawl is a unique design. Elevation of cockpit is only three steps above the salon floor, eliminating the feeling of crawling down in a cave when going down the companionway. Traditional layout with a large 67 x 7 Master v-berth with 6 teak storage cabinets. Head is situated to port with a large hanging locker to starboard. The main salon features 66 settees on each side with 66 pilot berths above and outboard. Nav. table to port with the galley starboard. A quarter berth lays aft behind the Nav table. Interior finished with oiled teak walls, cabinets and drawers, providing an extraordinary amount of storage space and uncommon elegance. Delivered as a hull/deck kit boat and completed by a talented original owner/with attention to detail." No indication of units for draft: millimeters, feet, fathoms, qubits (Egyptian or Macedonian), leagues, shots? The boat's name should be TARDIS, as it is bigger on the inside than the outside. Room to sleep 132 of your closest sailing friends, on a 41 foot boat. - Stumbling Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Ed 439 Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 5 hours ago, Contumacious Tom said: Lacks a lot of details. So much WTF in one picture. But mainly: are those really solid wooden masts? That wouldn't be so weird if it were so. Standard stuff for old time boats - hollow masts are a RELATIVELY recent invention I think. I do agree that the advertisement is a masterpiece of candour Quote Link to post Share on other sites
andykane 153 Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 6 hours ago, Contumacious Tom said: But mainly: are those really solid wooden masts? Solid concrete, evidently Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SloopJonB 8,583 Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 "We'll just beef that up a bit - make it a little stronger". The fate of virtually all amateur ferros. They all knew better than the designer. There was one built here where the builder must have heard about the old wooden boat technique of filling the area above hull stringers with pitch tapered so water would run down to the bilge. Kept water from pooling on the tops of the stringers. He thought it sounded like a good idea so he filled all such areas - with cement. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stumblingthunder 576 Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 https://orlando.craigslist.org/boa/d/deland-22-unique-project-boat/6819357433.html I present a "river cruiser" that was made out of a Catalina 22. I am impressed with the companionway extension to gain headroom. A bonus is the pivoting bass boat seat on the bow, for either fishing or sunning. An finally, the efficient reuse of a truck bed topper door for the companionway, to give that asymmetric jeu ne se quoi. - Stumbling - Stumbling Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hukilau 129 Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 16 minutes ago, stumblingthunder said: https://orlando.craigslist.org/boa/d/deland-22-unique-project-boat/6819357433.html I present a "river cruiser" that was made out of a Catalina 22. I am impressed with the companionway extension to gain headroom. A bonus is the pivoting bass boat seat on the bow, for either fishing or sunning. An finally, the efficient reuse of a truck bed topper door for the companionway, to give that asymmetric jeu ne se quoi. - Stumbling - Stumbling What a conveniently positioned steering wheel. This boat is clearly used in places where nothing ever appears to port. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stumblingthunder 576 Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 5 minutes ago, Hukilau said: What a conveniently positioned steering wheel. This boat is clearly used in places where nothing ever appears to port. Either long arms or an extremely long necked person. - Stumbling Quote Link to post Share on other sites
toddster 482 Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 I believe that is the stock position. At least I have seen it there on other Catalinas with conventional pop-tops. Perhaps it's popular with mail carriers who are used to driving that way? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Diarmuid 706 Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 11 hours ago, Contumacious Tom said: So much WTF in one picture. But mainly: are those really solid wooden masts? Rectangular in cross section. Which no one with any understanding of structural mechanics would specify for a sailboat mast. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SloopJonB 8,583 Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 48 minutes ago, Diarmuid said: Rectangular in cross section. Which no one with any understanding of structural mechanics would specify for a sailboat mast. ?? Do I take it you haven't seen many wood masts? The vast majority of them are rectangular. The only round ones I've ever seen were solid. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
See Level 743 Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 The rigging dead eyes with turnbuckles is a nice touch... If you can't tie a knot. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Excoded Tom 1,555 Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 5 hours ago, stumblingthunder said: https://orlando.craigslist.org/boa/d/deland-22-unique-project-boat/6819357433.html I present a "river cruiser" that was made out of a Catalina 22. I am impressed with the companionway extension to gain headroom. A bonus is the pivoting bass boat seat on the bow, for either fishing or sunning. An finally, the efficient reuse of a truck bed topper door for the companionway, to give that asymmetric jeu ne se quoi. - Stumbling - Stumbling We've seen a few truck toppers plopped on boats but that one is a work of art and might deserve the attention of the Society. The companionway is the best part. But the wheel, the seat, it's all a hoot. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Norse Horse 611 Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 18 hours ago, Mitre cut said: https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/boats-marine/yachts/keeler/auction-1952202256.htm?rsqid=a75bafb5a4d04139835294f326d0f0a7 How about this one for tell it like it is... This vessel, while not particularly suitable for the marine environment, would make a fabulous sleep out, bunker or tsunami shelter. This boat was a labour of love over many years and despite its major fail as a sailboat it deserves to be repurposed. Hanetta is being sold on behalf of the Mana Cruising Club. Purchaser is responsible for removal of the vessel within 14 days. The club will load vessel free of charge onto transporter. If buy now is used the club will also contribute $500 towards moving costs. Winner. We've had partially listing boats here before but...never with salmon coloured cabin tops. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SloopJonB 8,583 Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 It also gets the Hyperbole in Advertising" prize for the "Masterpiece" descriptor. I'd be interested to know what they regard as "A Complete Disaster". Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Norse Horse 611 Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 6 hours ago, stumblingthunder said: https://orlando.craigslist.org/boa/d/deland-22-unique-project-boat/6819357433.html I present a "river cruiser" that was made out of a Catalina 22. I am impressed with the companionway extension to gain headroom. A bonus is the pivoting bass boat seat on the bow, for either fishing or sunning. An finally, the efficient reuse of a truck bed topper door for the companionway, to give that asymmetric jeu ne se quoi. - Stumbling - Stumbling Note the door opens to the helm so there is no time lost to drain the main vein. And the door handle is strung upside down for a speed. .White Ibis, are they threatened by man? The shed out of pvc pipe is an important clue. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stumblingthunder 576 Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 1 hour ago, Norse Horse said: Note the door opens to the helm so there is no time lost to drain the main vein. And the door handle is strung upside down for a speed. .White Ibis, are they threatened by man? The shed out of pvc pipe is an important clue. Good catch on the shed, that had escaped my prior evaluations! White Ibis are wading fishing birds, located throughout the Southeast. Not a hunted bird, but does have some environmental pressures. - Stumbling Quote Link to post Share on other sites
toddster 482 Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 Looks like a standard Harbor Freight steel frame tent to me. Woefully inadequate to resist wind or snow. Don’t ask me how I know. Found Poetry Of The Day. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AnotherSailor 258 Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 21 hours ago, Lark said: Wasn’t particularly suited for a marine environment? That is the most hilarious marketing line I have seen here! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Autonomous 378 Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 Looks tippy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Excoded Tom 1,555 Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 7 hours ago, stumblingthunder said: 9 hours ago, Norse Horse said: The shed out of pvc pipe is an important clue. Good catch on the shed, that had escaped my prior evaluations! That's not what that is. It's an insta-carport. I've had a few. When the cover dies (about 2 years in the FL sun), you can get another. Or, if you're a cheap old coot like the one who stored his trailer in my driveway, you get a cheap silver tarp and string it up to the pole frame, which is steel. Later in the story, we get to the part about the steel rusting. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Machsquad 12 Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 whoops posted in the wrong place Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Ed 439 Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 18 hours ago, SloopJonB said: ?? Do I take it you haven't seen many wood masts? The vast majority of them are rectangular. The only round ones I've ever seen were solid. Gaff rigs usually have round masts. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Diarmuid 706 Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 18 hours ago, SloopJonB said: ?? Do I take it you haven't seen many wood masts? The vast majority of them are rectangular. The only round ones I've ever seen were solid. A large percentage of constructed wooden masts -- including all the good ones -- are at least hexagonal or octagonal in cross section, very often glued up using the bird's mouth joint: Rectangular box beams are fine -- in fact very good! -- as long as they are loaded parallel to one or the other axis. Any diagonal loading creates phenomenal stress concentrations at the vertices, and the beam tends to flatten like a cardboard carton you've opened the bottom of. Some people figure they can overcome the weakness of a rectangular mast by making it really large -- as this boat apparently did. But that really doesn't change the calculus at the corners. Better hope your loading stays on axis & in column, and that you experience zero torsion, or Blammo goes the spar. People build oblong spars because it's easy, not because they are strong. (Exception: the booms on performance race boats are often tall, narrow demi-rectangles. That's to maximize vertical strength when close hauled & the beam loads are insane. Any strength lost while reaching is accepted & (hopefully) covered by the remarkable properties of carbon fiber.) 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SloopJonB 8,583 Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 23 minutes ago, Mr. Ed said: Gaff rigs usually have round masts. And are usually solid. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SloopJonB 8,583 Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 20 minutes ago, Diarmuid said: A large percentage of constructed wooden masts -- including all the good ones -- are at least hexagonal or octagonal in cross section, very often glued up using the bird's mouth joint: I've never seen a big mast built birdsmouth style, mostly for dinghies. IIRC Guzzwell used that technique for the spars on Endangered Species and reinforced it with carbon tapes up the inside. That one in the pic is amazing - a piece of art Quote Link to post Share on other sites
andykane 153 Posted February 16, 2019 Share Posted February 16, 2019 Absolutely nothing wrong with a rectangular cross section for a wooden mast - they've been in common use for a more than a century. Birdsmouth is a relatively more modern technique that really came into its own with epoxy, which doesn't need the clamping pressure of earlier adhesives. A wooden spar is much more likely to fail from rot than from the building technique. HMCS Oriole, launched 1921 w/ hollow rectangular spars. Maybe not a great example given they lose bits of the rig occasionally, but they push that boat hard. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Steam Flyer 5,285 Posted February 17, 2019 Share Posted February 17, 2019 9 hours ago, SloopJonB said: 10 hours ago, Mr. Ed said: Gaff rigs usually have round masts. And are usually solid. Some are hollow, but they get a plug inserted to be solid under the jaws of the boom and the gaff. FB- Doug Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PaulinVictoria 99 Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 No mocks since Saturday? Is this some kind of mockless record? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Steam Flyer 5,285 Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 7 hours ago, PaulinVictoria said: No mocks since Saturday? Is this some kind of mockless record? I dunno if it's record, maybe all the crap boats asking high prices have been snapped up this week. FB- Doug Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sail4beer 2,223 Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 Hollow round spar sections were built in staves like an oak wine barrel. Marilee the gaff rig NY 40 has hollow spars constructed in this method with plugs installed at the ends to reinforce them. I helped build them in 2001 from a truckload of Oregon oldgrowth Douglas Fir. More recently, the birdsmouth has gained popularity since it basically holds itself together with more surface area and a physical rabbet to lay into. The 65’ mast for Silent Maid was laid up in this manner this past spring. My Crosby Curlew has a deck stepped hollow box mast and boom. It is able to handle the loads adequately. It’s in fine condition for a 54 year old spar. My ocean racer, Mooeak has a box boom from 1949 that is in fine condition as well. My 1900 catboat has solid spars and are quite heavy for spruce. Lots of resin in the old trees from the 1800’s. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SloopJonB 8,583 Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 Yanmar 2 GMF in good condition Well, other than that pesky broken connecting rod anyway. A deal at only $1500. https://vancouver.craigslist.org/rds/bpo/d/surrey-yanmar-2gm20f-16hp-diesel/6814770731.html Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Norse Horse 611 Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 I cents that this project is 85% reddy..https://seattle.craigslist.org/tac/boa/d/gig-harbor-boston-whaler-revenge-22/6819680884.html Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Out West 15 Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 2 hours ago, Steam Flyer said: ... maybe all the crap boats asking high prices have been snapped up this week. FB- Doug Here's a cheap bang for your bucks. Might want to have the owner give you a sea (yard) trial first though. https://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/boa/d/albany-homebuilt-landyacht-landsailer/6804082600.html Homebuilt landsailer. It is super fast and fun. I never use it. $150 OBO Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Norse Horse 611 Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 3 minutes ago, Out West said: Here's a cheap bang for your bucks. Might want to have the owner give you a sea (yard) trial first though. https://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/boa/d/albany-homebuilt-landyacht-landsailer/6804082600.html Homebuilt landsailer. It is super fast and fun. I never use it. $150 OBO Steering rake looks sporty Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Steam Flyer 5,285 Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 3 minutes ago, Norse Horse said: 6 minutes ago, Out West said: Homebuilt landsailer. It is super fast and fun. I never use it. $150 OBO Steering rake looks sporty Wow, now there is a fine piece of back porch engineering. I guess "super fast" means it can out run the 5 year old you stole the tricycle from? I think I know why the seller "never uses it" FB- Doug 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
woahboy 215 Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 6 minutes ago, Norse Horse said: Steering rake looks sporty Good starter "device" for Jammer6 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
woahboy 215 Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 1 minute ago, Steam Flyer said: Wow, now there is a fine piece of back porch engineering. I guess "super fast" means it can out run the 5 year old you stole the tricycle from? I think I know why the seller "never uses it" FB- Doug How can he know it's super fast if he never uses it? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Norse Horse 611 Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 1 hour ago, woahboy said: How can he know it's super fast if he never uses it? He is 85% sure, 19 times out of 20 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SemiSalt 215 Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 3 hours ago, Sail4beer said: Hollow round spar sections were built in staves like an oak wine barrel. Marilee the gaff rig NY 40 has hollow spars constructed in this method with plugs installed at the ends to reinforce them. I helped build them in 2001 from a truckload of Oregon oldgrowth Douglas Fir. More recently, the birdsmouth has gained popularity since it basically holds itself together with more surface area and a physical rabbet to lay into. The 65’ mast for Silent Maid was laid up in this manner this past spring. My Crosby Curlew has a deck stepped hollow box mast and boom. It is able to handle the loads adequately. It’s in fine condition for a 54 year old spar. My ocean racer, Mooeak has a box boom from 1949 that is in fine condition as well. My 1900 catboat has solid spars and are quite heavy for spruce. Lots of resin in the old trees from the 1800’s. I remember reading someplace about gluing a mast for an America's Cup boat. This was pre-aluminum mast, pre-epoxt, pre-birdsmouth technique. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sail4beer 2,223 Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 That would be with resorcinol or hide glue! The hide glue gives you a little wiggle room like thickened epoxy. The resorcinol bond face had to be perfectly mates and smooth or it would fail. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
woahboy 215 Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 20 minutes ago, Norse Horse said: He is 85% sure, 19 times out of 20 Ahhh, it's that ever looming 15% Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Autonomous 378 Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 3 hours ago, Norse Horse said: Steering rake looks sporty Just give it a little rake. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Norse Horse 611 Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 9 minutes ago, Autonomous said: Just give it a little rake. ...and move the mast back so it will wheely in a gust... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jabber 15 Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 4 hours ago, SloopJonB said: Yanmar 2 GMF in good condition Well, other than that pesky broken connecting rod anyway. A deal at only $1500. https://vancouver.craigslist.org/rds/bpo/d/surrey-yanmar-2gm20f-16hp-diesel/6814770731.html Lol! Yeah everything else works great...because con rods just snap for no reason, and NEVER do any collateral damage when they do.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SloopJonB 8,583 Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 I thought this was the commonplace typo of extra zero's but noooo..... 3/4 of a $mil for a 52' steel boat in Mexico. https://vancouver.craigslist.org/van/bod/d/custom-cutter-sailboat-for-sale-eva/6823959772.html Quote Link to p
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