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Well, just counting on my fingers, I can only come up with about 80 cylinders.  But it's not like a formal inventory.  There's probably crap laying around out of sight out of mind.  

Personal vehicles 12

Farm trucks 18

Tractors 12

ATVs 4

Boat & outboards 11

Chainsaws pruners & log splitters 9

Lawn stuff & pressure washer 6

Generators & scuba compressor 9

 

No wonder I never get anything done around here... way past the maintenance diminishing returns horizon.  

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Well, I'm not sure I should admit this but that boat was built by my long time former neighbor, yep, B. Lewis.  As a fellow sometime mocker I am getting a kick out of all your comments but I will come

Ain't that the truth.  If he would have just humbly and simply said "i adopted and built on this method and built a few boats, lived simply and escaped the rat race all my life, it works for me"  he c

Ohey I send you picture...

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25 minutes ago, toddster said:

I can only come up with about 80 cylinders

Well that's impressive...
I'm on the other end of the spectrum: I've got a total of 5!

4 in the van, 1 on the boat.

All garden stuff is electric...

Who else is at the bottom of the range?

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13 minutes ago, Airwick said:

Well that's impressive...
I'm on the other end of the spectrum: I've got a total of 5!

4 in the van, 1 on the boat.

All garden stuff is electric...

Who else is at the bottom of the range?

So what would the boatyard paradigm be? Cordless tools; number of cells, sum of voltage, amp hours?

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Maybe not a joke.  After the big Rigid 9 amp-hour beast came on board I started wondering whether we should worry about proliferation of lithium ion batteries.  At the least, the charging-farm can get annoying.  

Maybe not a craigslist subject though.  New thread for esoteric inventories?  

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47 minutes ago, Airwick said:

Well that's impressive...
I'm on the other end of the spectrum: I've got a total of 5!

4 in the van, 1 on the boat.

All garden stuff is electric...

Who else is at the bottom of the range?

Laudable goal...  I'm trying hard to cut back.

Tossed 2 gas trimmers this past weekend after spending way too much time fiddling...  Argg...  Electric will have to work, albeit not gracefully.

Do air compressors count?  If electric I don't think so.

Gutless oil leaking pressure washer is next for the bin. (it was free anyway)

Auto fleet trimmed to two.  Best move ever... so much less logistics.

" He who dies with the most toys wins" is BS.  Stuff starts to own you, rather than the other way around.  I wish I'd simplified more 20+ years ago. 

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1 hour ago, Airwick said:

Well that's impressive...
I'm on the other end of the spectrum: I've got a total of 5!

4 in the van, 1 on the boat.

All garden stuff is electric...

Who else is at the bottom of the range?

Boat: 3

Truck: 6

Subaru: 4

Mower: 1

for a total of 14. I have a lot of electric lawn implements as well.

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Amazed how they add up.   I counted 40, but 10 or so are in back of the back shelf longing for a new life.  Do 110 volt air compressors count as cylinders?  43 then.  Thats not counting the handful of little 12 volt tire pumps. 

Similarly amazed when I counted total length of boats owned for that thread.

Interesting perspective of how stuff accumulates over the years.

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3 for boats

10 for transportation

 1 to make mulch.    

4 & 1/2 more at work counting an 1970s tractor with a crack, do I need to count work equipment?  

 Total  Hp around 500.   That statistic needs to be considered as well, like ballast to sail area.  That gives 25 hp per cylinder but its sabotaged by the Evinrude’s 2 cylinders for 4 HP.   

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Does anyone else follow Mustie1 on YouTube? He's into fixing internal combustion driven machines and posting videos of his work, and his cylinder count might be well over 200.

My count is pretty low, everything garden and even my boat is now electric, so 9 for two cars.

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Here’s a good one.

The owner knows it needs some cosmetics and the draft may be off a little with 4 years of growth on the bottom.

Don't worry about the electronics, the 2 lightning strikes took them out for you.

And who needs to worry about a pesky title when it’s time to move on...

https://hiltonhead.craigslist.org/boa/d/hilton-head-island-36-custom-sailboat/6882617375.html

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9 hours ago, TheDragon said:

Back to mocking, here's a "brand new" MacGregor 26 asking $60k, partly because it has a "self ferler", whatever that is.

https://vancouver.craigslist.org/van/boa/d/chilliwack-26-macgregor-sailboat/6877842404.html

From the ad "Manufactured in 2014 and finishing it up now. A real yacht! Your option if you want the custom Miss Scarlet art wrap we have had designed!
Contained head (rarest option), shower (second rarest option), aluminum trailer, Ipod, sail inventory, self ferler and much more. There is no other boat on the planet in this category. We are proud to list this yacht and it is way under value at this price!
"

Seems to me that their business model should not include letting that much capital lay around for 5 years. But hey, it's got a "contained head" whatever that is, and apparently the lucky buyer would be among the few Mac/Tattoo owners who shower.

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13 minutes ago, Steam Flyer said:

 Ipod

Oooh! It comes with an iPod!   Well, ok I have an iPod.  But I don't brag about it (and am often mocked for it).  I am kinda proud of my iPod the same way I am proud of the old slide rules that I also own.  

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And now, a new submission for the committee to consider, review and devastate:

https://savannah.craigslist.org/boa/d/crescent-65ft-sailboat-cruiser-with/6889106235.html

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A possibly mobile crack/meth yacht, for a burgeoning Walter White to make a little extra cash.

Note the rigging design, which prevents the possible overwhelming of stability, resulting in the ruin of the current batch of "product" being developed below.

A plus is the steel "patina" for keeping a low profile.

- Stumbling

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$7,000 for a 65' steel hull. 

I think we can now mock everyone that builds their own steel hull thinking they are saving money (that's you, BS, and your elk).  

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5 hours ago, stumblingthunder said:

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This may be the end-all as far as total pieces of floating ruination. 

But one has to admire the classy Arc de Triomphe lamp in the cabin.  Helps put a gal in the mood to crawl into that reeking crack-bunk...

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I'm leaning towards imprisonment of kidnap victims... that boat is a horror show without a script.  Or wanting a script...  Ick.  Just sink and make a reef out of it.

 

65ft (cruiser) sailboat with 4cyl diesel engine. Teak wood interior. Full kitchen. Gas stove. Mini Fridge. Extreme storage all throughout ship. Enough bedding for 10. Batteries are in good condition. Pump runs great. The engine is in good condition. Pulley system under the steering wheel needs to be welded back in place, you can still steer with the helm and a bar. Needs to be painted, barnacles need to be scrapped off. Needs better sealing around the masts holes, top port holes and entry ways. More information in pictures. Asking 7000. Text Brandon

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On 5/13/2019 at 4:17 PM, Gigantasy said:

Gonna need more ambien to finish this dream

https://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/boa/d/jesup-finish-the-dream/6887982403.html

Finish the Dream (Georgia) 

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$10,000 OBO. Is that what they want or what they will pay to get rid of it? I mean, it is a Bruce Roberts design!

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3 hours ago, Israel Hands said:

This may be the end-all as far as total pieces of floating ruination. 

But one has to admire the classy Arc de Triomphe lamp in the cabin.  Helps put a gal in the mood to crawl into that reeking crack-bunk...

Iz, you bring shame upon the Old North State. That is the Eiffel Tower, not the Arc de Triomphe.

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7 hours ago, bugger said:

$7,000 for a 65' steel hull. 

I think we can now mock everyone that builds their own steel hull thinking they are saving money (that's you, BS, and your elk).  

FIFY.

I built mine but it wasn't about saving money, it was getting what I wanted done *how* I wanted it.

Comments like yours are entertaining because the overwhelming majority of you couldn't build a dinghy let alone a decent sized sailboat. I, OTOH, have a brand new boat that I know every part of. And that Valiant thread on blisters.......

That 65' hull is apparently a George Buehler design which means I wouldn't buy it anyway. George had no feel for steel hulls at all, they were always massively overweight for their actual requirements. Probably also explains why it has no rig - doesn't have the stability to carry one.

FKT

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1 hour ago, Bull City said:

Iz, you bring shame upon the Old North State. That is the Eiffel Tower, not the Arc de Triomphe.

BC - my God - guilty as charged! I need to stop secretively 'multitasking' at work and dedicate proper mocking time to keep my facts straight. My mind thought Tour Eiffel, and out came the Arc.:rolleyes:

By the way, as we drove to DPAC last weekend for a Mothers Day outing, thought of you as we passed the 'Welcome To Bull City' sign.

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14 hours ago, Fah Kiew Tu said:

... because the overwhelming majority of you couldn't build a dinghy let alone a decent sized sailboat. 

FKT, this is a rather sweeping, generalized insult, don't you think?

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13 hours ago, Israel Hands said:

By the way, as we drove to DPAC last weekend for a Mothers Day outing, thought of you as we passed the 'Welcome To Bull City' sign.

It is very humbling to have a city named for oneself. Thank you.

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14 hours ago, Fah Kiew Tu said:

FIFY.

I built mine but it wasn't about saving money, it was getting what I wanted done *how* I wanted it.

Comments like yours are entertaining because the overwhelming majority of you couldn't build a dinghy let alone a decent sized sailboat. I, OTOH, have a brand new boat that I know every part of. And that Valiant thread on blisters.......

That 65' hull is apparently a George Buehler design which means I wouldn't buy it anyway. George had no feel for steel hulls at all, they were always massively overweight for their actual requirements. Probably also explains why it has no rig - doesn't have the stability to carry one.

FKT

I understand the intent. I’ve built a few boats in my day.  I rebuilt my wooden Sloop because it was already there in form and needed everything I could throw at it to get the boat I wanted. I could have purchased a new boat for what I put into it with time and money for 5 years and finished a lot of other boat projects, however, I am satisfied with the end product.  No one else has anything remotely as unique around this area

For the majority who will never build a boat but see the folly in so many home built steel boats that never get to launch, there is general consensus out there(here) that the “boats” are in fact just reflections of the lack of knowledge and self awareness that make for an unfortunate project and a mock worthy unfinished product...unlike you FKT and Steve ”Panope”. You guys have raised the bar. Steve has re-done his Dad’s boat beautifully and you have scratch built a monster boat yourself. 

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1 hour ago, Bull City said:

FKT, this is a rather sweeping, generalized insult, don't you think?

I think he missed his Prozac yesterday.

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7 hours ago, SloopJonB said:

I think he missed his Prozac yesterday.

No, I'm working on my metal planer which stopped planing and that's pissing me off. Mind you it's over 70 years old. Now has its drive gear mounted on the horizontal boring mill removing the badly worn area in prep for a bronze sleeve bearing. That'll fix it for another 70 years.

Did a similar job a couple years back except it was the cutless bearing/bushing on a 65' 109 year old *steel* sailboat. Funny how steel boats can last a long time if looked after.

I'll concede that a few of you could build a dinghy but from your general comments I sincerely doubt the vast majority could even build a hull for a 30+ foot boat let alone all the systems that go inside, the rig and the sails. Otherwise you might think twice about some of the comments you make on this and similar threads.

Now you can feel free to prove me wrong - any time you want to start. Friend of mine started his build when he turned 65 and now sails a 34' Benford BADGER.

That Buehler hull looks pretty fair as far as the metalwork goes. As I said I'd not build a Buehler boat in steel because George had no clue as to the scantlings for a steel hull and he massively oversized everything. Also his big hulls have a rep for being pretty tender.

My take is that the person built the hull, did some of the fitout and plain ran out of money, energy and enthusiasm, then left it to deteriorate. That one is a bit sad. There but for the grace of God (and a lot of determination) go quite a few of us.

FKT

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13 hours ago, Fah Kiew Tu said:

No, I'm working on my metal planer which stopped planing and that's pissing me off. Mind you it's over 70 years old. Now has its drive gear mounted on the horizontal boring mill removing the badly worn area in prep for a bronze sleeve bearing. That'll fix it for another 70 years.

Did a similar job a couple years back except it was the cutless bearing/bushing on a 65' 109 year old *steel* sailboat. Funny how steel boats can last a long time if looked after.

I'll concede that a few of you could build a dinghy but from your general comments I sincerely doubt the vast majority could even build a hull for a 30+ foot boat let alone all the systems that go inside, the rig and the sails. Otherwise you might think twice about some of the comments you make on this and similar threads.

Now you can feel free to prove me wrong - any time you want to start. Friend of mine started his build when he turned 65 and now sails a 34' Benford BADGER.

That Buehler hull looks pretty fair as far as the metalwork goes. As I said I'd not build a Buehler boat in steel because George had no clue as to the scantlings for a steel hull and he massively oversized everything. Also his big hulls have a rep for being pretty tender.

My take is that the person built the hull, did some of the fitout and plain ran out of money, energy and enthusiasm, then left it to deteriorate. That one is a bit sad. There but for the grace of God (and a lot of determination) go quite a few of us.

FKT

The idea of building a boat = FREEDOM!! got a big boost back in the fiberglass boat boom, when a lot of people wanted the boat (boat = FREEDOM!!) but didn't want to / couldn't afford to pay for a new one; also a lot of people felt they could build a better boat than what was on the market.

The problem is that a lot of people who get the bug to build a boat seem to think that a boat is a funny-shaped box. All that extra stuff is just minor. So, when they've built the funny-shaped box, and they don't realize that they are less than 25% done, as the rest of it drags on and on, and costs more and more, of course they get discouraged.

In today's world with gazillions of cheap used boats, does it make sense to build a boat yourself? Well, if you want something done right, you know what you have to do.........

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3 hours ago, Steam Flyer said:

The idea of building a boat = FREEDOM!! got a big boost back in the fiberglass boat boom, when a lot of people wanted the boat (boat = FREEDOM!!) but didn't want to / couldn't afford to pay for a new one; also a lot of people felt they could build a better boat than what was on the market.

The problem is that a lot of people who get the bug to build a boat seem to think that a boat is a funny-shaped box. All that extra stuff is just minor. So, when they've built the funny-shaped box, and they don't realize that they are less than 25% done, as the rest of it drags on and on, and costs more and more, of course they get discouraged.

In today's world with gazillions of cheap used boats, does it make sense to build a boat yourself? Well, if you want something done right, you know what you have to do.........

FB- Doug

Agree with that, and would add that while many of us could build a boat - given the time, money and lack of interest in just about anything else - most of us would choose not to build a boat. Most of us prefer to sail our boats, do other stuff, share a life with our wives...a of which conflicts with the time and focus required to build a cruising sailboat.  The damn upkeep takes too much time as it is!

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1 hour ago, Israel Hands said:

Agree with that, and would add that while many of us could build a boat - given the time, money and lack of interest in just about anything else - most of us would choose not to build a boat. Most of us prefer to sail our boats, do other stuff, share a life with our wives...a of which conflicts with the time and focus required to build a cruising sailboat.  The damn upkeep takes too much time as it is!

damn upkeep takes too much time as it is!

 

Exactly!   

This, and just look at that SV Seeker guy.  Wow, if the building isn't 100% of the fun for that guy.  I'm sure he will sail it, and have a ton of fun with ROV's and the like, but the actual pure joy of the fit-out is remarkable.  Launch day might be a sad day for him.   Bravo, and no way would I ever do it.

Fa Kiew Tu seems to have the knowledge and kit to build boats.   I think if (come the time) I will just have him build me one, or buy one of his used boats should the opportunity present itself.  99% of the posters here on SA who "could" build a boat, I would not buy.

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I followed the home boat-building world for a bunch of years. My impression is that it's mostly boats less than 15' long, i.e.short enough to plank with 2 sheets of plywood. Anything larger is a serious undertaking. There are a lot of boats in the 15-20 ft range that turn into multi-year projects. Then along comes some guy and he builds a 26-footer in year, but you find out it's not his first boat, he already has a shop to build in, and all the tools.  

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The only reason to build a boat is because you want to build a boat.

For anything else - like getting a boat cheaper etc, buy one. It's faster, cheaper, easier and you will probably still be married and/or alive when it hits the water.

Even the reason that you get exactly what you want by building is not all that valid. There are so many boats of such variety on the used market that there has to be something close that can be customized to meet your specific needs at far less cost in time and money than starting from scratch.

There are extraordinary or unique exceptions, like Francis Lee but they are few & far between.

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On 5/15/2019 at 9:50 AM, stumblingthunder said:

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Wrong thread, I know, but does anyone else Admire the stainless throttle mount box?

On 5/14/2019 at 1:21 PM, toddster said:

Well, just counting on my fingers, I can only come up with about 80 cylinders.  But it's not like a formal inventory.  There's probably crap laying around out of sight out of mind.  

Personal vehicles 12

Farm trucks 18

Tractors 12

ATVs 4

Boat & outboards 11

Chainsaws pruners & log splitters 9

Lawn stuff & pressure washer 6

Generators & scuba compressor 9

 

No wonder I never get anything done around here... way past the maintenance diminishing returns horizon.  

I could make you feel a bit better by having a bit of fun with my neighbor.

Just going from memory...

Personal cars 26 not counting the race car with another 8, so I guess that's 34

Swamp buggy and swamp track 16

Backhoes 8

Tractor 4

Tree spade I think has 3

Boats, not counting a few jetskis that are in the zombie fleet 31 plus the Lycoming in the airboat makes 37

ATV's about 6 depending on how you count

I think his home diesel generator has 4 and I think the one in his big boat has 3

He has two cement mixers but one's really for parts so that's 2 I guess

His Scag mower is quite a bit bigger than mine but I just looked it up and also 2 cylinders.

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Chainsaws and such about 6

There are more I'm disregarding due to zombie status and probably more I have forgotten and I probably got at least one of those wrong. But that's still 126.

I think I have to tell him about this game.

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Just now, Importunate Tom said:

Wrong thread, I know, but does anyone else Admire the stainless throttle mount box?

I could make you feel a bit better by having a bit of fun with my neighbor.

Just going from memory...

Personal cars 26 not counting the race car with another 8, so I guess that's 34

Swamp buggy and swamp track 16

Backhoes 8

Tractor 4

Tree spade I think has 3

Boats, not counting a few jetskis that are in the zombie fleet 31 plus the Lycoming in the airboat makes 37

ATV's about 6 depending on how you count

I think his home diesel generator has 4 and I think the one in his big boat has 3

He has two cement mixers but one's really for parts so that's 2 I guess

His Scag mower is quite a bit bigger than mine but I just looked it up and also 2 cylinders.

Tiny forklift 1

Chainsaws and such about 6

There are more I'm disregarding due to zombie status and probably more I have forgotten and I probably got at least one of those wrong. But that's still 126.

I think I have to tell him about this game.

I had considered mentioning the weld work on that stainless steel throttle riser, but then decided to see how long it took another practiced eye to spot it.    That looks to be the best piece of hardware and work on the whole vessel.

- Stumbling

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I wasn't sure whether to put this here or in the ugly boat thread but I think the price makes it mockable, considering what else you could get for $30,000 CAD right now.

Anybody want to buy the S/V Dill Pickle?

https://www.kijiji.ca/v-sailboat/thunder-bay/custom-made-steel-sailboat-for-sale/1428203050?siteLocale=en_CA  

 

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Nice one Forrestdawg. I wonder if he'd take a 50% share in trade for an RV or perhaps an excavator.

 

Edit: Quite a bit more on the designer's website eg: http://mikecampdesigns.ca/PDF/Boat-article.pdf  Money quote, "My wife says I'm always trying to reinvent the wheel. I keep telling her the wheel is not necessarily perfect"

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^ Thanks, FO. Looking at the website, he appears to be a very creative, talented and interesting dude. Had I the spare change, I would definitely buy some of his sculpture, or maybe commission some kind of cool outdoor cook stove. Just not the boat. Though the spartan interior has a certain appeal, and that wood stove would keep you cozy on those cool Lake Superior evenings.

Just realized that I've driven by that fish in Marten River a few times, it is quite eye catching.

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20 minutes ago, low bum said:

Includes the rare "running forestay" option.

Hmmm, I do need a new come-along. Not sure it is worth the drive and the effort to prepare a suitable Viking funeral for the rest of that poor vessel.

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2 hours ago, Forestdawg said:

I wasn't sure whether to put this here or in the ugly boat thread but I think the price makes it mockable, considering what else you could get for $30,000 CAD right now.

Anybody want to buy the S/V Dill Pickle?

https://www.kijiji.ca/v-sailboat/thunder-bay/custom-made-steel-sailboat-for-sale/1428203050?siteLocale=en_CA  

 

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That thing makes George Buehler look like an artist.

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1 hour ago, SloopJonB said:
3 hours ago, Forestdawg said:

I wasn't sure whether to put this here or in the ugly boat thread but I think the price makes it mockable, considering what else you could get for $30,000 CAD right now.

Anybody want to buy the S/V Dill Pickle?

https://www.kijiji.ca/v-sailboat/thunder-bay/custom-made-steel-sailboat-for-sale/1428203050?siteLocale=en_CA  

 

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That thing makes George Buehler look like an artist.

Definitely goes in this thread. I don't see anything admirable at all. It's a shame that several useful items like the anchor, fuel cans, and ladder, are getting the kooties from this abortion rubbed off on them

This thing doesn't even look as good as a Dr Seuss cartoon of a boat.

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3 hours ago, Foiling Optimist said:

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Edit. Quite a bit more on the designer's website eg: http://mikecampdesigns.ca/PDF/Boat-article.pdf  Money quote, "My wife says I'm always trying to reinvent the wheel. I keep telling her the wheel is not necessarily perfect"

Well, it is a few spokes shy of being a useful wheel.

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On 5/17/2019 at 5:07 PM, SloopJonB said:

The only reason to build a boat is because you want to build a boat.

SJB has hit it again.

Cylinder Index:

As to ICE cylinders, here's all I have. I have no clue as to cylinders or HP except where noted:

2 Subarus (Outback & Impreza)

1 Chainsaw

1 Lawnmower (3 HP)

1 Chipper (5 HP)

Pickle

The S/V Dill Pickle is quite a find. I like the Toe/Bull rail along the sheer, and the perky way she rides on her lines, not to mention the penitentiary-style interior.

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The 1/2 scale model of the Spitfire looks fairly decent, at distance. The rest of it... well, I'll leave it up to y'all.

And I was impressed by his candor: "Sleeps 2." He's obviously no salesman...

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For a folksy home build at $30,000 for 26' I expect two things, First, all the systems work and everything is in great shape. Second, I want an eclectic, interesting but above all COZY interior. This interior make an IMOCA60 look like a north west coast tug lovingly and professionally converted to a private yacht. 

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15 hours ago, low bum said:

A nice one for the right skipper - good crop of deck weed ready for harvest, and apparently it comes with all the parts to put it back together.  Includes the rare "running forestay" option.

https://spacecoast.craigslist.org/boa/d/merritt-island-free-24-sailboat-title/6889272020.html

Now that is a "Tool Time" fraculator!!!

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Although, I don't think that would help this vessel's downwind performance.

Likewise, the attempt at removing "junk in the trunk" has moved the meter on cockpit usability into the deep red negative:

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- Stumbling

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15 hours ago, Bull City said:

 

...     ...     ...    The S/V Dill Pickle is quite a find. I like the Toe/Bull rail along the sheer, and the perky way she rides on her lines, not to mention the penitentiary-style interior.

 

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Ha Ha Ha.... "penitentiary style interior." Maybe he's hoping to sell it to a wanna-be monk?

Perky is for boobs, not so good for boats. And this is not the PerkyBoat Admiration thread anyway!!

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27 minutes ago, Steam Flyer said:

 

Ha Ha Ha.... "penitentiary style interior." Maybe he's hoping to sell it to a wanna-be monk?

Perky is for boobs, not so good for boats. And this is not the PerkyBoat Admiration thread anyway!!

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I'm sorry, only Perky Viking Metal Gregorian Chants are on the sound system.

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24 minutes ago, 10thTonner said:

On a phone screen this looks just like anything you’d see at any boat show today. Light, roomy, airy, with indirect light. 

Yup. No handholds, lots of sharp edges. The yott stylists will be all over this one. 

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4 hours ago, 10thTonner said:

On a phone screen this looks just like anything you’d see at any boat show today. Light, roomy, airy, with indirect light. 

I guess I need to go to a boat show.

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18 minutes ago, Bull City said:
4 hours ago, 10thTonner said:

On a phone screen this looks just like anything you’d see at any boat show today. Light, roomy, airy, with indirect light. 

I guess I need to go to a boat show.

Sounds like I'm glad I have not gone to a boat show for the last few years

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Went to the Auckland show maybe 4  years ago - when my boat was in NZ- I found it quite sad.

All I recall of new boats in the water was a benny, a bav and a Hanse....maybe 45 feet... dunno...

Stuck my nose in the Hanse .... a couple of a certain age were making  very impressed noises .... may have even been thinking of buying it.

I was anything but impressed .... not even a decent marina queen in my eyes.

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Hmmmm.  I love boat shows.  There will never be a world where I can afford or even want a new boat, but I really enjoy seeing boats that are out of my league.  But I have to agree with Cisco; the sailboat pickings are getting slimmer.  The Miami show is a good case in point:  fewer and fewer sailboats are being shown.  The Strictly Sail part of the show used to be a separate show at Miamarina, but it's gotten to the point where they've just combined it with the power boats at Key Biscayne.  Newport is still strong, and I've heard that Annapolis hasn't lost any steam, but the smaller shows that I used to go to are either gone or don't have any sailboats at all.

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The local show has been a waste of time since the 90's unless you are looking for a "boat show" deal on electronics or sails.

85% of it is obnoxious ski boats with roll bars full of stereo speakers to ensure everyone within a couple of miles knows you are there.

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1 hour ago, SloopJonB said:

obnoxious ski boats with roll bars full of stereo speakers to ensure everyone within a couple of miles knows you are there.

Didn't realize this is an international trend...I thought it was just a Southern US thing.  Boats usually contain 2-3 drunk rednecks, cranking country or even rap.  The cherry on top is an oversize US or confederate flag.

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not really mocking, except he has the price right.  but sails cost extra...

https://washingtondc.craigslist.org/nva/boa/d/topping-sail-boat-catalina-22-free/6893727903.html

Come and get this 22' Catlina (1972) for free.
The Boat was re-rigged and could be ready to sail with a little TLC.
The hull, drop keel and mast/rigging are sound and in working order.
There are no electronics on the boat.
1 main sails and 2 jibs (from Bottger Sails, NY) in excellent conditions and stowed in bags indoors, are available for $350
Johnson 8 hp Outboard, with gas container is available for $250.
Motor will run after a tune up.
The original seat cushions are also stowed and are in decent shape.
This boat has been kept on a lift, but hasn't been sailed in a year.
This Boat came with the house purchase and I'm not a sailor so I'd like to find it a good home.
There is no trailer, so you would need to tow it from the lift.
There is also a nearby boat ramp if you want to haul it away.

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On 5/21/2019 at 11:37 AM, SloopJonB said:

85% of it is obnoxious ski boats with roll bars full of stereo speakers to ensure everyone within a couple of miles knows you are there.

Maybe that's a good idea for the people around that type of "boater"? Just a guess.

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On 5/21/2019 at 12:37 PM, SloopJonB said:

The local show has been a waste of time since the 90's unless you are looking for a "boat show" deal on electronics or sails.

85% of it is obnoxious ski boats with roll bars full of stereo speakers to ensure everyone within a couple of miles knows you are there.

Not a lot of great boat show deals either, unless you want to buy an actual boat.  There's always the discount sunglasses booth, but most stuff that is discounted is only discounted about 5% off regular retail.  I don't go for the deals; I go for the entertainment value.  I love looking at and hanging out around sailboats and with other sailors.  And swag.  Swag is good.  Granted, there are limits in how many keychain floats a man really needs, but I'm not there yet.  And I could always use another pair of sunglasses.

And I really like it when it's a combo power and sailboat show.  The differences in the crowds at each part makes me smile.  Sure the power boat side has more young people and families, but sailors know more about the boats.  Usually. 

Times have changed though;  I remember back in the day (late '80's) when I lived in NYC, and would go to the NY Boat Show.  This is an indoor extravaganza held every January.  The show is at the huge Javits Center, and used to be fully half power boats and half sailboats.  Back then, it looked more like a car show, with models and tacky come-ons designed to get you to look.  The models on the power boat side would be dressed in bikinis or other similar (lack of) clothing, while those on the sailboat side looked like they had stepped out of an LL Bean catalogue.  I recall one time at the show where the mid-20's and single me saw a really beautiful salesgirl in the cockpit of a sailboat, and decided to ask her some questions about the boat (ahem).  I climbed the stairs to the cockpit, and proceeded to charm the young lady.  She smiled back and said "you really need to ask my Dad those questions".  Out from below pops the young lady's father, ready to answer any questions and take my deposit check.  I didn't know if I should admire his sales technique or call the cops for pimping out his daughter.

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Not sure how we drifted to sculptures but it reminds me of the Oberto ones.  My son played kid soccer with the great grandson of founder Constantine Oberto, (Nice, at games we had all the jerky and meat snacks you could eat from the Oberto motorhome).  Year end party was at the grandparents waterfront home where they'd commissioned life size bronze sculptures of their 3 or 4 kids dancing and cavorting in a wide circle next to the beach.  It was a really fun, playful celebration of the family that fit into the landscaping beautifully.  I wish I had pictures.  They must have moved on as I don't think the sculptures are there any more.  You can see the house from the I-90 bridge but my eyes aren't as good as they used to be.  I really should make the ~7 mile jaunt in the outboard to see for sure.  Stupid new I-90 bridge there is not tall enough to sail under, the high rise span adds another ~20 miles round trip to get to the same spot, grrrrr.

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2 hours ago, SemiSalt said:

Compare The Skaters by MIke Camp to the Dancers by David Wynne (PepsiCo Sculpture Gardens)

 

 

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There is no comparison.

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On 5/21/2019 at 12:37 PM, SloopJonB said:

The local show has been a waste of time since the 90's unless you are looking for a "boat show" deal on electronics or sails.

85% of it is obnoxious ski boats with roll bars full of stereo speakers to ensure everyone within a couple of miles knows you are there.

That's the new "acoustic AIS."

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