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Well, I'm not sure I should admit this but that boat was built by my long time former neighbor, yep, B. Lewis.  As a fellow sometime mocker I am getting a kick out of all your comments but I will come

Ain't that the truth.  If he would have just humbly and simply said "i adopted and built on this method and built a few boats, lived simply and escaped the rat race all my life, it works for me"  he c

No, no, you've got it all wrong. My comment about only doing one circumnavigation was an example of what people call "false modesty". Or "Irony". Look it up sometime. You're just another grifter

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The boat's not mockable. It's a fine little dinghy for pharting around on. It looks like it might be a Dyer midget. It's not cosmetically very nice but it's functional. Launder that sail and it'll look a lot better.

The spelling errors in the ad are fully mockable.

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2 hours ago, Ajax said:

The boat's not mockable. It's a fine little dinghy for pharting around on. It looks like it might be a Dyer midget. It's not cosmetically very nice but it's functional. Launder that sail and it'll look a lot better.

The spelling errors in the ad are fully mockable.

agreed it's a swell lil' boat. I own one much like it; an Eli sailing dink. The mast step makes a great mount for the gas grill with rod holder mount and I added wheels for landing craft style beach head assualts.

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But come on.... "Optimum delight sailboat/ores"? Anybody?  Bueller, Bueller...

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Here's another riding on the cusp of mockability. I feel sorry for this nice, lonely boat in need of TLC.

The photos are increasingly mockable, and then we get to the description

https://eastnc.craigslist.org/boa/d/new-bern-1966-alberg-35-bluewater/6882962381.html

1966 Alberg 35 bluewater cruiser - $6000 (New bern) hide this posting

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15 hours ago, Fah Kiew Tu said:

Ha ha. My philosophy on boat expenditures when people ask. I ask them how much, today, they value the last good meal and drinks at a restaurant that they paid for.

The money is gone forever and never to be recovered.

That's how I regard money spent on my boat(s).

You need a hell of a lot of tooling to build/maintain a boat, so spending money on tooling is just fine too.

FKT

Good philosophy - people who mistake what they spend on something to make it more enjoyable for them as an "investment" oughta think about that. 

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9 hours ago, Monkey Butler said:

Okay, it's FB not CL but just thought I'd lob this softball out there for you guys to take a swing at...

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The boat was probably cute in its day.

If there are really valuable ores in the earth under it, the mining rights could be worth well over the asking price.

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34 minutes ago, Israel Hands said:

Here's another riding on the cusp of mockability. I feel sorry for this nice, lonely boat in need of TLC.

The photos are increasingly mockable, and then we get to the description

https://eastnc.craigslist.org/boa/d/new-bern-1966-alberg-35-bluewater/6882962381.html

1966 Alberg 35 bluewater cruiser - $6000 (New bern) hide this posting

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Looks like a Vanguard, not an Alberg 35.

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14 hours ago, Lark said:

You could buy a stairmaster and spend your evening climbing that.   When somebody asks the price of a slip and acts like I’m rich when I answer, I respond that some people spend that amount on cable or buy a monster TV instead of spending it on boats.   They generally look guilty or thoughtful.    My nearby marina is the low rent category, and the guys fishing off the dock a bit dodgy, so many here would look positively wealthy.   

Whenever my co-workers start cracking "rich, yachty" jokes, I point out that these guys have more money invested in their Harley-Davidsons than I have invested in my boat.

They piss away more money in aftermarket exhaust pipes, LED headlights, saddle bags, pillions and other "gee-gaw" than I do on haul-outs, sails and other maintenance and the return is the exactly the same- Nil.

Think about it for a moment:

  • Your standard "Credit-Glyde" softtail for $19k (minus tax, tags and title)
  • Aftermarket exhaust- 200-400 (first thing owners replace when they buy a bike)
  • LED headlight upgrade- 130-200
  • aftermarket bags/cases (nevermind that the OEM units are perfectly fine)  400-700
  • various leather add-ons (tool roll, fork bag, etc, etc) 200-300

I paid $4500 for my boat and $1850 for a new, tri-radial Dacron genoa. I just spent $500 for my first haul-out, paint, supplies and a new, high speed polisher. I've spent a few hundred more on stuff like a new VHF radio, the new toilet and a new water heater.

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1 hour ago, Israel Hands said:

Here's another riding on the cusp of mockability. I feel sorry for this nice, lonely boat in need of TLC.

The photos are increasingly mockable, and then we get to the description

https://eastnc.craigslist.org/boa/d/new-bern-1966-alberg-35-bluewater/6882962381.html

1966 Alberg 35 bluewater cruiser - $6000 (New bern) hide this posting

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The bedding in the photos always turns me off. Bleah. Love that monster stove.

That companionway hatch appeals to me but then I like plywood experiments.

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I thought a 60-40 jet was a bit much when you look at those tiny brackets on the corners of the transom.

It is conveniently located near penal colonies for mass escapes down the Mighty Fraser...

Cool fence though, you don't see that style very often.

https://vancouver.craigslist.org/pml/boa/d/agassiz-18-foot-wooden-skiff/6856362581.html

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2 hours ago, Israel Hands said:

https://eastnc.craigslist.org/boa/d/new-bern-1966-alberg-35-bluewater/6882962381.html

1966 Alberg 35 bluewater cruiser - $6000 (New bern) hide this posting

I love the line about the engine "It's a one cyl, can't be that hard to fix".  

So the difficulty in repairing an engine is proportional to the number of cylinders?  Those guys that work on 12 and 16 cylinder engines must be geniuses! And the guys that work on 24 cylinder engines?  Wow....

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1 hour ago, bugger said:

I love the line about the engine "It's a one cyl, can't be that hard to fix".  

So the difficulty in repairing an engine is proportional to the number of cylinders?  Those guys that work on 12 and 16 cylinder engines must be geniuses! And the guys that work on 24 cylinder engines?  Wow....

What if the boat has more than one engine?

Einstein and Stephen Hawking would be dog meat next to the mechanic that could handle more than one engine!!!

- Stumbling

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2 hours ago, Norse Horse said:

The bedding in the photos always turns me off. Bleah. Love that monster stove.

That companionway hatch appeals to me but then I like plywood experiments.

Is no one else unnerved by the immaculate condition of the coamings on that otherwise unmade bed of a boat?

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2 hours ago, bugger said:

I love the line about the engine "It's a one cyl, can't be that hard to fix".  

So the difficulty in repairing an engine is proportional to the number of cylinders?  Those guys that work on 12 and 16 cylinder engines must be geniuses! And the guys that work on 24 cylinder engines?  Wow....

Yes, the seller is certainly "breezy" about the facts of boating.  My favorite is "It's in a hurricane hole that you do not need to move your boat from. The last hurricane the stuff on the settee table didn't even fall off. "   Aaaghhh!   I'd just love to find the marina owner, from here in the ENC to Florida, who encourages you to leave your boat on their dock in a hurricane.

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5 hours ago, Ajax said:

Hey, those wheels are neat!  Do they flip up against the transom when in the water?

Here's my original design:

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They swung off to the side to reduce drag. But they also caught every passing wave and thoroughly soaked the skipper.

With 2 or three people and the grill, cooler, etc the performance hit from leaving them down didn't really make a big enough difference for me to care so they stay down for the most part. When hitting the beach in any size surf it was amazing how well the wheels worked to keep the stern from getting swamped. By sheer luck I had made them just long enough so that I could leave the outboard fully down and power onto the sand without the prop ever touching bottom.IMAG0888a.jpg.dd71e96c52b84a23e8a3c452cde7dd05.jpg

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Depending on the tide we had a wide beach (sand extended to rocks shown just offshore) and a sand bar to portage across so moving them up and down was to much of a bother. Here is the low tide water route vs. portage route.

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And the dink being used as a spare stateroom.

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Also semi mock-able; my pipe insulation rubbing strake head/foot rest cushions!

I don't have a big boat right now but I still have 'Stinky Dinky".

 

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1 hour ago, Monkey Butler said:

Here's my original design:

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They swung off to the side to reduce drag. But they also caught every passing wave and thoroughly soaked the skipper.

With 2 or three people and the grill, cooler, etc the performance hit from leaving them down didn't really make a big enough difference for me to care so they stay down for the most part. When hitting the beach in any size surf it was amazing how well the wheels worked to keep the stern from getting swamped. By sheer luck I had made them just long enough so that I could leave the outboard fully down and power onto the sand without the prop ever touching bottom.IMAG0888a.jpg.dd71e96c52b84a23e8a3c452cde7dd05.jpg

IMAG0849.thumb.jpg.834c187f425cdfc72f8bb3d2a0221218.jpg

Depending on the tide we had a wide beach (sand extended to rocks shown just offshore) and a sand bar to portage across so moving them up and down was to much of a bother. Here is the low tide water route vs. portage route.

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And the dink being used as a spare stateroom.

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Also semi mock-able; my pipe insulation rubbing strake head/foot rest cushions!

I don't have a big boat right now but I still have 'Stinky Dinky".

 

That is a beauty.  The only thing possibly missing would be Wheel Pants (I think that is what they are called) like used on fixed gear aircraft.

Bummer pool noodles do not come in longer lengths.

General putzing about in a well found dink is always good fun.

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15 hours ago, Monkey Butler said:

Here's my original design:

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They swung off to the side to reduce drag. But they also caught every passing wave and thoroughly soaked the skipper.

With 2 or three people and the grill, cooler, etc the performance hit from leaving them down didn't really make a big enough difference for me to care so they stay down for the most part. When hitting the beach in any size surf it was amazing how well the wheels worked to keep the stern from getting swamped. By sheer luck I had made them just long enough so that I could leave the outboard fully down and power onto the sand without the prop ever touching bottom.IMAG0888a.jpg.dd71e96c52b84a23e8a3c452cde7dd05.jpg

IMAG0849.thumb.jpg.834c187f425cdfc72f8bb3d2a0221218.jpg

Depending on the tide we had a wide beach (sand extended to rocks shown just offshore) and a sand bar to portage across so moving them up and down was to much of a bother. Here is the low tide water route vs. portage route.

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And the dink being used as a spare stateroom.

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Also semi mock-able; my pipe insulation rubbing strake head/foot rest cushions!

I don't have a big boat right now but I still have 'Stinky Dinky".

 

Great dink!

As far as the landing gear, just need to do a little appropriation from another amphibian, a  classic Republic Seabee:

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Just extend the swing of the landing gear a little higher and no more auto-bath for the helmsman!

- Stumbling

PS - Or... glue on a couple of winglet stubs with wheel wells and a set of roundels and you are ready for a Supermarine time of your life!

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3 hours ago, stumblingthunder said:

Great dink!

As far as the landing gear, just need to do a little appropriation from another amphibian, a  classic Republic Seabee:

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Just extend the swing of the landing gear a little higher and no more auto-bath for the helmsman!

- Stumbling

PS - Or... glue on a couple of winglet stubs with wheel wells and a set of roundels and you are ready for a Supermarine time of your life!

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I have lost a few pounds, but I think the lift to drag issue issue may still be a problem, but that didn't stop Igor.

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4 hours ago, Monkey Butler said:

I have lost a few pounds, but I think the lift to drag issue issue may still be a problem, but that didn't stop Igor.

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Kermit Weeks has that air yacht's baby brother over in Orlampa (look it up, its a real place!) Florida:

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- Stumbling

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1 hour ago, stumblingthunder said:

Kermit Weeks has that air yacht's baby brother over in Orlampa (look it up, its a real place!) Florida:

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- Stumbling

Wow -- two competing entries in the 1970's Bond villain radial-engine porn palace sweepstakes?

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On 5/10/2019 at 12:28 PM, bugger said:

I love the line about the engine "It's a one cyl, can't be that hard to fix".  

So the difficulty in repairing an engine is proportional to the number of cylinders?  Those guys that work on 12 and 16 cylinder engines must be geniuses! And the guys that work on 24 cylinder engines?  Wow....

I belonged to a forum where someone asked what everyone's "cylinder index" was. At the time mine was 42 I think. One guy was over 100.

Cylinder Index: Take an inventory of all the internal combustion engines that you own and add the number of cylinders in each together. The sum equals your cylinder index.

My current = 17

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9 minutes ago, AnotherSailor said:

The best hope is that the person who built this is blind:

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Spelling does seem to be an issue as well.

https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/boa/d/emeryville-alexaline-sailboat-45ft-live/6886448365.html

I think we've seen that one. There are so many...

Yes, that's been here several times.

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Always good for a laugh.

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2 hours ago, Monkey Butler said:

I belonged to a forum where someone asked what everyone's "cylinder index" was. At the time mine was 42 I think. One guy was over 100.

Cylinder Index: Take an inventory of all the internal combustion engines that you own and add the number of cylinders in each together. The sum equals your cylinder index.

My current = 17

We’ve done that one too. I think it got bogged down on whether you count stuff like chain saws, lawn mowers and generators.  

Since I wasted half of today repairing a lawn mower, I’d vote yes.  Which puts me well over 100.  

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3 hours ago, Monkey Butler said:

I belonged to a forum where someone asked what everyone's "cylinder index" was. At the time mine was 42 I think. One guy was over 100.

Cylinder Index: Take an inventory of all the internal combustion engines that you own and add the number of cylinders in each together. The sum equals your cylinder index.

My current = 17

Mine is 18.

The thought of what Jay Leno's must be is terrifying. Probably into 4 digits.

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4 hours ago, Monkey Butler said:

I belonged to a forum where someone asked what everyone's "cylinder index" was. At the time mine was 42 I think. One guy was over 100.

Cylinder Index: Take an inventory of all the internal combustion engines that you own and add the number of cylinders in each together. The sum equals your cylinder index.

My current = 17

42. Wait I forgot the IH Drott, 46.

There's no rule that they all have to be running I hope or I'm back to 42.

FKT

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10 hours ago, toddster said:

We’ve done that one too. I think it got bogged down on whether you count stuff like chain saws, lawn mowers and generators.  

Since I wasted half of today repairing a lawn mower, I’d vote yes.  Which puts me well over 100.  

I am including small engines in the count. The original reasoning was that things like lawn mowers and chain saws probably create more emissions than a modern automobile engine. 

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24 minutes ago, Sail4beer said:

36 counting only boat motors

One, down from a high of 16, You win.

Sail4beer, I read about your daughter on the other thread. I hope she's doing well. Happy mother's day to her Mom.

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Thanks Monkey,

She’s back home and has taken back her role of younger sister and alpha female. Wife is enjoying her day with Claire home and I need to go to GA and call my Mother since she crossed the bar on the 26th after a long journey.

You guys are the best!

 

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19 hours ago, Monkey Butler said:

I belonged to a forum where someone asked what everyone's "cylinder index" was. At the time mine was 42 I think. One guy was over 100.

Cylinder Index: Take an inventory of all the internal combustion engines that you own and add the number of cylinders in each together. The sum equals your cylinder index.

My current = 17

Heh.  26 - GAK!!  I just complained about the number (to myself) a little bit ago and then bought an aircraft with two more.  Sheesh!

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On 5/6/2019 at 3:59 PM, stumblingthunder said:

You know, that may actually be a better impression!   I will have to change my arrangements to be from that angle.  

Thats going to be a fun conversation with my wife to get that ball rolling!

"Honey, I've been thinking, instead of a nice memorial with friends and family, I just want a Viking Metal Rave off of Bayshore Blvd, with full fireworks, including launching my mortal remains up 800 feet in the air and exploding in multiple 8"+ Salute shells as a finale.   What do think?"

(Salute - Shell containing a large quantity of flash powder rather than stars, producing a quick flash followed by a large report. Salutes are commonly used in large quantities during finales to create intense noise and brightness. They are often cylindrical in shape to allow for a larger payload of flash powder but ball shapes are common as well.) Plenty of room to mix in my dust!

The funny thing is, I have had the conversation with her about setting me free in some commercial grade fireworks.   I started out with doing it from a muzzle loading cannon, but then it evolved into turning the cannon into a mortar, then just straight to fireworks mortars.

The rave part is going to be a harder sell...

- Stumbling

I want to be reduced, put into a douche and run through one more time.

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On 5/12/2019 at 12:05 AM, Diarmuid said:

Wow -- two competing entries in the 1970's Bond villain radial-engine porn palace sweepstakes?

Don't show it to either Elon Musk or Jeff Bezos!   They might want to go retro if they cannot find a dormant volcano on the Moon for their lair.

- Stumbling

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Was torn as to whether to put this here or in the Zombie Fleet. 

Many in our little town complain about this eyesore, and I've just felt sorry for it. The listing adds kind of a sad story as well, including current owners who aren't in touch with reality

1971 coranado sail boat - $5000

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"Condition: Good"

https://eastnc.craigslist.org/boa/d/washington-1971-coranado-sail-boat/6887263974.html

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24 minutes ago, Israel Hands said:

Was torn as to whether to put this here or in the Zombie Fleet. 

Many in our little town complain about this eyesore, and I've just felt sorry for it. The listing adds kind of a sad story as well, including current owners who aren't in touch with reality

1971 coranado sail boat - $5000

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"Condition: Good"

https://eastnc.craigslist.org/boa/d/washington-1971-coranado-sail-boat/6887263974.html

Is that a giant bong in the V-berth?

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Instead of "condition: good" it should say, condition filthy and missing a bunch of stuff.

Why do people take boats and turn them into housing for raccoons with ADHD?

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"This boat was left to us by someone who passed away..."

So that is the ultimate revenge for someone you don't like?  Just before dying, buy one of these zombies and leave it to them in your will.  

(Of course that's sarcastic.  Dealing with stuff left over after someone passes away is always emotional and difficult.)  

 

 

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46 minutes ago, Steam Flyer said:

Is that a giant bong in the V-berth?

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Instead of "condition: good" it should say, condition filthy and missing a bunch of stuff.

Why do people take boats and turn them into housing for raccoons with ADHD?

FB- Doug

Thats one way to deal with the mold, scrape it and smoke it!

- Stumbling

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8 hours ago, stumblingthunder said:

Don't show it to either Elon Musk or Jeff Bezos!   They might want to go retro if they cannot find a dormant volcano on the Moon for their lair.

- Stumbling

You think they don't already own a volcano? Or two? With sharks with frickin' laser beams on their heads?

 

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11 cylinders for boats. 7 for lawn equipment. 10 in the cars, or maybe 12. I don't really know what powers my car. Generator has two. I'll count retired lawn machines as half a cylinder, so that's one more for an even 30. Or 32.

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16 hours ago, SloopJonB said:
17 hours ago, Gigantasy said:

Gonna need more ambien to finish this dream

https://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/boa/d/jesup-finish-the-dream/6887982403.html

Finish the Dream (Georgia) 

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That one's been done.

Twice.

 

Yeah but there's plenty of mocking left in it.

For example: "Family decided to sell when the chickens all died"

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Well, just counting on my fingers, I can only come up with about 80 cylinders.  But it's not like a formal inventory.  There's probably crap laying around out of sight out of mind.  

Personal vehicles 12

Farm trucks 18

Tractors 12

ATVs 4

Boat & outboards 11

Chainsaws pruners & log splitters 9

Lawn stuff & pressure washer 6

Generators & scuba compressor 9

 

No wonder I never get anything done around here... way past the maintenance diminishing returns horizon.  

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25 minutes ago, toddster said:

I can only come up with about 80 cylinders

Well that's impressive...
I'm on the other end of the spectrum: I've got a total of 5!

4 in the van, 1 on the boat.

All garden stuff is electric...

Who else is at the bottom of the range?

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13 minutes ago, Airwick said:

Well that's impressive...
I'm on the other end of the spectrum: I've got a total of 5!

4 in the van, 1 on the boat.

All garden stuff is electric...

Who else is at the bottom of the range?

So what would the boatyard paradigm be? Cordless tools; number of cells, sum of voltage, amp hours?

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Maybe not a joke.  After the big Rigid 9 amp-hour beast came on board I started wondering whether we should worry about proliferation of lithium ion batteries.  At the least, the charging-farm can get annoying.  

Maybe not a craigslist subject though.  New thread for esoteric inventories?  

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47 minutes ago, Airwick said:

Well that's impressive...
I'm on the other end of the spectrum: I've got a total of 5!

4 in the van, 1 on the boat.

All garden stuff is electric...

Who else is at the bottom of the range?

Laudable goal...  I'm trying hard to cut back.

Tossed 2 gas trimmers this past weekend after spending way too much time fiddling...  Argg...  Electric will have to work, albeit not gracefully.

Do air compressors count?  If electric I don't think so.

Gutless oil leaking pressure washer is next for the bin. (it was free anyway)

Auto fleet trimmed to two.  Best move ever... so much less logistics.

" He who dies with the most toys wins" is BS.  Stuff starts to own you, rather than the other way around.  I wish I'd simplified more 20+ years ago. 

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1 hour ago, Airwick said:

Well that's impressive...
I'm on the other end of the spectrum: I've got a total of 5!

4 in the van, 1 on the boat.

All garden stuff is electric...

Who else is at the bottom of the range?

Boat: 3

Truck: 6

Subaru: 4

Mower: 1

for a total of 14. I have a lot of electric lawn implements as well.

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Amazed how they add up.   I counted 40, but 10 or so are in back of the back shelf longing for a new life.  Do 110 volt air compressors count as cylinders?  43 then.  Thats not counting the handful of little 12 volt tire pumps. 

Similarly amazed when I counted total length of boats owned for that thread.

Interesting perspective of how stuff accumulates over the years.

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3 for boats

10 for transportation

 1 to make mulch.    

4 & 1/2 more at work counting an 1970s tractor with a crack, do I need to count work equipment?  

 Total  Hp around 500.   That statistic needs to be considered as well, like ballast to sail area.  That gives 25 hp per cylinder but its sabotaged by the Evinrude’s 2 cylinders for 4 HP.   

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Does anyone else follow Mustie1 on YouTube? He's into fixing internal combustion driven machines and posting videos of his work, and his cylinder count might be well over 200.

My count is pretty low, everything garden and even my boat is now electric, so 9 for two cars.

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Here’s a good one.

The owner knows it needs some cosmetics and the draft may be off a little with 4 years of growth on the bottom.

Don't worry about the electronics, the 2 lightning strikes took them out for you.

And who needs to worry about a pesky title when it’s time to move on...

https://hiltonhead.craigslist.org/boa/d/hilton-head-island-36-custom-sailboat/6882617375.html

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9 hours ago, TheDragon said:

Back to mocking, here's a "brand new" MacGregor 26 asking $60k, partly because it has a "self ferler", whatever that is.

https://vancouver.craigslist.org/van/boa/d/chilliwack-26-macgregor-sailboat/6877842404.html

From the ad "Manufactured in 2014 and finishing it up now. A real yacht! Your option if you want the custom Miss Scarlet art wrap we have had designed!
Contained head (rarest option), shower (second rarest option), aluminum trailer, Ipod, sail inventory, self ferler and much more. There is no other boat on the planet in this category. We are proud to list this yacht and it is way under value at this price!
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Seems to me that their business model should not include letting that much capital lay around for 5 years. But hey, it's got a "contained head" whatever that is, and apparently the lucky buyer would be among the few Mac/Tattoo owners who shower.

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13 minutes ago, Steam Flyer said:

 Ipod

Oooh! It comes with an iPod!   Well, ok I have an iPod.  But I don't brag about it (and am often mocked for it).  I am kinda proud of my iPod the same way I am proud of the old slide rules that I also own.  

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And now, a new submission for the committee to consider, review and devastate:

https://savannah.craigslist.org/boa/d/crescent-65ft-sailboat-cruiser-with/6889106235.html

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A possibly mobile crack/meth yacht, for a burgeoning Walter White to make a little extra cash.

Note the rigging design, which prevents the possible overwhelming of stability, resulting in the ruin of the current batch of "product" being developed below.

A plus is the steel "patina" for keeping a low profile.

- Stumbling

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$7,000 for a 65' steel hull. 

I think we can now mock everyone that builds their own steel hull thinking they are saving money (that's you, BS, and your elk).  

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5 hours ago, stumblingthunder said:

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This may be the end-all as far as total pieces of floating ruination. 

But one has to admire the classy Arc de Triomphe lamp in the cabin.  Helps put a gal in the mood to crawl into that reeking crack-bunk...

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I'm leaning towards imprisonment of kidnap victims... that boat is a horror show without a script.  Or wanting a script...  Ick.  Just sink and make a reef out of it.

 

65ft (cruiser) sailboat with 4cyl diesel engine. Teak wood interior. Full kitchen. Gas stove. Mini Fridge. Extreme storage all throughout ship. Enough bedding for 10. Batteries are in good condition. Pump runs great. The engine is in good condition. Pulley system under the steering wheel needs to be welded back in place, you can still steer with the helm and a bar. Needs to be painted, barnacles need to be scrapped off. Needs better sealing around the masts holes, top port holes and entry ways. More information in pictures. Asking 7000. Text Brandon

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On 5/13/2019 at 4:17 PM, Gigantasy said:

Gonna need more ambien to finish this dream

https://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/boa/d/jesup-finish-the-dream/6887982403.html

Finish the Dream (Georgia) 

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$10,000 OBO. Is that what they want or what they will pay to get rid of it? I mean, it is a Bruce Roberts design!

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3 hours ago, Israel Hands said:

This may be the end-all as far as total pieces of floating ruination. 

But one has to admire the classy Arc de Triomphe lamp in the cabin.  Helps put a gal in the mood to crawl into that reeking crack-bunk...

Iz, you bring shame upon the Old North State. That is the Eiffel Tower, not the Arc de Triomphe.

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7 hours ago, bugger said:

$7,000 for a 65' steel hull. 

I think we can now mock everyone that builds their own steel hull thinking they are saving money (that's you, BS, and your elk).  

FIFY.

I built mine but it wasn't about saving money, it was getting what I wanted done *how* I wanted it.

Comments like yours are entertaining because the overwhelming majority of you couldn't build a dinghy let alone a decent sized sailboat. I, OTOH, have a brand new boat that I know every part of. And that Valiant thread on blisters.......

That 65' hull is apparently a George Buehler design which means I wouldn't buy it anyway. George had no feel for steel hulls at all, they were always massively overweight for their actual requirements. Probably also explains why it has no rig - doesn't have the stability to carry one.

FKT

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1 hour ago, Bull City said:

Iz, you bring shame upon the Old North State. That is the Eiffel Tower, not the Arc de Triomphe.

BC - my God - guilty as charged! I need to stop secretively 'multitasking' at work and dedicate proper mocking time to keep my facts straight. My mind thought Tour Eiffel, and out came the Arc.:rolleyes:

By the way, as we drove to DPAC last weekend for a Mothers Day outing, thought of you as we passed the 'Welcome To Bull City' sign.

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14 hours ago, Fah Kiew Tu said:

... because the overwhelming majority of you couldn't build a dinghy let alone a decent sized sailboat. 

FKT, this is a rather sweeping, generalized insult, don't you think?

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13 hours ago, Israel Hands said:

By the way, as we drove to DPAC last weekend for a Mothers Day outing, thought of you as we passed the 'Welcome To Bull City' sign.

It is very humbling to have a city named for oneself. Thank you.

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14 hours ago, Fah Kiew Tu said:

FIFY.

I built mine but it wasn't about saving money, it was getting what I wanted done *how* I wanted it.

Comments like yours are entertaining because the overwhelming majority of you couldn't build a dinghy let alone a decent sized sailboat. I, OTOH, have a brand new boat that I know every part of. And that Valiant thread on blisters.......

That 65' hull is apparently a George Buehler design which means I wouldn't buy it anyway. George had no feel for steel hulls at all, they were always massively overweight for their actual requirements. Probably also explains why it has no rig - doesn't have the stability to carry one.

FKT

I understand the intent. I’ve built a few boats in my day.  I rebuilt my wooden Sloop because it was already there in form and needed everything I could throw at it to get the boat I wanted. I could have purchased a new boat for what I put into it with time and money for 5 years and finished a lot of other boat projects, however, I am satisfied with the end product.  No one else has anything remotely as unique around this area

For the majority who will never build a boat but see the folly in so many home built steel boats that never get to launch, there is general consensus out there(here) that the “boats” are in fact just reflections of the lack of knowledge and self awareness that make for an unfortunate project and a mock worthy unfinished product...unlike you FKT and Steve ”Panope”. You guys have raised the bar. Steve has re-done his Dad’s boat beautifully and you have scratch built a monster boat yourself. 

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1 hour ago, Bull City said:

FKT, this is a rather sweeping, generalized insult, don't you think?

I think he missed his Prozac yesterday.

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7 hours ago, SloopJonB said:

I think he missed his Prozac yesterday.

No, I'm working on my metal planer which stopped planing and that's pissing me off. Mind you it's over 70 years old. Now has its drive gear mounted on the horizontal boring mill removing the badly worn area in prep for a bronze sleeve bearing. That'll fix it for another 70 years.

Did a similar job a couple years back except it was the cutless bearing/bushing on a 65' 109 year old *steel* sailboat. Funny how steel boats can last a long time if looked after.

I'll concede that a few of you could build a dinghy but from your general comments I sincerely doubt the vast majority could even build a hull for a 30+ foot boat let alone all the systems that go inside, the rig and the sails. Otherwise you might think twice about some of the comments you make on this and similar threads.

Now you can feel free to prove me wrong - any time you want to start. Friend of mine started his build when he turned 65 and now sails a 34' Benford BADGER.

That Buehler hull looks pretty fair as far as the metalwork goes. As I said I'd not build a Buehler boat in steel because George had no clue as to the scantlings for a steel hull and he massively oversized everything. Also his big hulls have a rep for being pretty tender.

My take is that the person built the hull, did some of the fitout and plain ran out of money, energy and enthusiasm, then left it to deteriorate. That one is a bit sad. There but for the grace of God (and a lot of determination) go quite a few of us.

FKT

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13 hours ago, Fah Kiew Tu said:

No, I'm working on my metal planer which stopped planing and that's pissing me off. Mind you it's over 70 years old. Now has its drive gear mounted on the horizontal boring mill removing the badly worn area in prep for a bronze sleeve bearing. That'll fix it for another 70 years.

Did a similar job a couple years back except it was the cutless bearing/bushing on a 65' 109 year old *steel* sailboat. Funny how steel boats can last a long time if looked after.

I'll concede that a few of you could build a dinghy but from your general comments I sincerely doubt the vast majority could even build a hull for a 30+ foot boat let alone all the systems that go inside, the rig and the sails. Otherwise you might think twice about some of the comments you make on this and similar threads.

Now you can feel free to prove me wrong - any time you want to start. Friend of mine started his build when he turned 65 and now sails a 34' Benford BADGER.

That Buehler hull looks pretty fair as far as the metalwork goes. As I said I'd not build a Buehler boat in steel because George had no clue as to the scantlings for a steel hull and he massively oversized everything. Also his big hulls have a rep for being pretty tender.

My take is that the person built the hull, did some of the fitout and plain ran out of money, energy and enthusiasm, then left it to deteriorate. That one is a bit sad. There but for the grace of God (and a lot of determination) go quite a few of us.

FKT

The idea of building a boat = FREEDOM!! got a big boost back in the fiberglass boat boom, when a lot of people wanted the boat (boat = FREEDOM!!) but didn't want to / couldn't afford to pay for a new one; also a lot of people felt they could build a better boat than what was on the market.

The problem is that a lot of people who get the bug to build a boat seem to think that a boat is a funny-shaped box. All that extra stuff is just minor. So, when they've built the funny-shaped box, and they don't realize that they are less than 25% done, as the rest of it drags on and on, and costs more and more, of course they get discouraged.

In today's world with gazillions of cheap used boats, does it make sense to build a boat yourself? Well, if you want something done right, you know what you have to do.........

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3 hours ago, Steam Flyer said:

The idea of building a boat = FREEDOM!! got a big boost back in the fiberglass boat boom, when a lot of people wanted the boat (boat = FREEDOM!!) but didn't want to / couldn't afford to pay for a new one; also a lot of people felt they could build a better boat than what w