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Well, I'm not sure I should admit this but that boat was built by my long time former neighbor, yep, B. Lewis.  As a fellow sometime mocker I am getting a kick out of all your comments but I will come

Ain't that the truth.  If he would have just humbly and simply said "i adopted and built on this method and built a few boats, lived simply and escaped the rat race all my life, it works for me"  he c

Ohey I send you picture...

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59 minutes ago, Ajax said:

Good Lord...that funky keel. Like a Pearson 30 only even more exaggerated.

Yes, a strange affliction of that era.   Sailboats were never going to get going fast enough to take advantage of swept wing attributes, but it was "swoopy"!

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22 minutes ago, stumblingthunder said:

Yes, a strange affliction of that era.   Sailboats were never going to get going fast enough to take advantage of swept wing attributes, but it was "swoopy"!

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Sheds lobster pots & kelp better, maybe? C&C certainly seemed keen on them for a period. But yeah -- for a given leading edge length, a more vertical keel will achieve the greatest depth and lift and prevent flow from creeping toward the bottom to induce drag.

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11 minutes ago, Diarmuid said:

Sheds lobster pots & kelp better, maybe? C&C certainly seemed keen on them for a period. But yeah -- for a given leading edge length, a more vertical keel will achieve the greatest depth and lift and prevent flow from creeping toward the bottom to induce drag.

Trying to maximize area while minimizing depth.   Charlie Morgan grew up in Tampa, and Tampa Bay is a relatively shallow place.    From what I remember, the boat did fairly decent racing under the MORC rule, but was not "magical" like some of his previous designs.

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I loved and covetted a Morgan 27 when I was a teen.  It was one of the coolest looking boats at the yacht club in my 13yr old mind.  I still love the look of the deck and cabin.

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On 9/9/2019 at 8:19 AM, leuk said:

I submit this to woodies lovers appreciation. Sorry for some pics size, they came as they were.

https://www.bandofboats.com/fr/buy/boat/42878?utm_medium=rtb&utm_source=criteo&utm_campaign=achat

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For 10.000 euros, you get a -I quote- "half-rebuilt" boat. So, even though the dodger itself is "90% rebuilt", the project misses the 80% complete category by a big margin.

 

 

 

 

I am sure a little elbow grease and those insignificant imperfections will come right out. 

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On 9/10/2019 at 8:45 AM, g7tunison said:

From the pictures ( which do occasionally lie) the hull and topsides look sorta ok. But the interior....looks like a chainsaw/dumpster project  to me

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As the happy owner of a small camper-van, I really don't mock the boat itself.  I think it's a pretty cool idea and something that could be very relaxing for a long weekend spent on the Delta........... but the price???  $15,000?!  Welcome to the SF Bay Area where people think whatever they're selling is made of gold.  Or maybe it's believed that if you can afford to live here, you can afford to pay more for their listed items.  

Unfortunately it seems these Sea Campers have a following like VW camper-vans or Harley Davidson, so they carry a higher price.  At least in the minds of the sellers.  

It appears this person fitted a larger, more modern OB engine to the stern.  I believe this boat is supposed to have a much smaller inboard engine.  My main concern would be that adding an additional 60+hp to the transom of a fiberglass hull, might create some structural integrity issues.  

It sure is ugly, but I can easily imagine relaxing weekends spent fishing or just hanging out on the deck or roof with a cold drink.  

https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/boa/d/emeryville-1972-sea-camper-26-houseboat/6974238113.html

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57 minutes ago, SloopJonB said:

It's wood so the buffer won't work.

Three grits of beavers, finish up with  a soft cloth dipped in termites. When you are done polishing up that particular boat, you'll see the reflection of your own face: bearded, insane, and ninety years old.

 

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3 hours ago, Winston29 said:

As the happy owner of a small camper-van, I really don't mock the boat itself.  I think it's a pretty cool idea and something that could be very relaxing for a long weekend spent on the Delta........... but the price???  $15,000?!  Welcome to the SF Bay Area where people think whatever they're selling is made of gold.  Or maybe it's believed that if you can afford to live here, you can afford to pay more for their listed items.  

Unfortunately it seems these Sea Campers have a following like VW camper-vans or Harley Davidson, so they carry a higher price.  At least in the minds of the sellers.  

It appears this person fitted a larger, more modern OB engine to the stern.  I believe this boat is supposed to have a much smaller inboard engine.  My main concern would be that adding an additional 60+hp to the transom of a fiberglass hull, might create some structural integrity issues.  

It sure is ugly, but I can easily imagine relaxing weekends spent fishing or just hanging out on the deck or roof with a cold drink.  

https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/boa/d/emeryville-1972-sea-camper-26-houseboat/6974238113.html

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I can see it's utility as a roomy stabbin' cabin.

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1 hour ago, SloopJonB said:

It's wood so the buffer won't work.

Never said buffer...what I said was chainsaw, band sawmills, planner, hammer, wooden pegs cut slightly oversized, and plenty of lead and bolts. Helps if one has skill at casting large quantities of lead because I am very sure this 90% complete boat has had its keel/ballast sold off to a scrap metal dealer. Of course to save money and the environment, a broad ax, a two man crosscut saw and an adz and draw knife might REALLY enhance the “elbow” grease experience. 

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On 9/11/2019 at 4:07 PM, Winston29 said:

As the happy owner of a small camper-van, I really don't mock the boat itself.  I think it's a pretty cool idea and something that could be very relaxing for a long weekend spent on the Delta........... but the price???  $15,000?!  Welcome to the SF Bay Area where people think whatever they're selling is made of gold.  Or maybe it's believed that if you can afford to live here, you can afford to pay more for their listed items.  

Unfortunately it seems these Sea Campers have a following like VW camper-vans or Harley Davidson, so they carry a higher price.  At least in the minds of the sellers.  

It appears this person fitted a larger, more modern OB engine to the stern.  I believe this boat is supposed to have a much smaller inboard engine.  My main concern would be that adding an additional 60+hp to the transom of a fiberglass hull, might create some structural integrity issues.  

It sure is ugly, but I can easily imagine relaxing weekends spent fishing or just hanging out on the deck or roof with a cold drink.  

https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/boa/d/emeryville-1972-sea-camper-26-houseboat/6974238113.html

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Aspen YC has one of these as their RC boat. Name is Waterbed. Complete with original inboard. I'm not sure if I have ever felt more character on a boat than Waterbed. I'll grab some pics next time I'm there.

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1 hour ago, Nirie said:

Regarding the Redline 25 trawler, i might not want to own it put I am impressed with the creativity and workmanship.

Damn well done!

The interior looks pretty decently done, but the design is just plain weird.

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Another in the dinghy series, for those who want a craft you can kayak paddle or use the aux motor. With the hull shape of an Eskimo Topolino [or a wing tank] it will be a bit tippy at rest. Amaze your friends when you take them prawning or out to check your anchor set.

https://sfbay.craigslist.org/scz/boa/d/santa-cruz-2-person-yellow-submarine/6974059765.html

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On 9/13/2019 at 9:57 PM, Ishmael said:

The interior looks pretty decently done, but the design is just plain weird.

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I Admire the seat back angle and don't find the helm all that weird, though throttles shouldn't block windows.

This is the weird part:

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I have a hard time giving a sail to power conversion any credit as I've heard they tend to be rolling pukers, You'd have to prove to me it isn't one.

Maybe with the mass of the house this one is OK.  Still, 30" draft on a powerboat this small negates any real gunkhole capability.

The design and workmanship are way better than the usual backyard abortions that foul the waterways.  The house does well in the rowaway category but it clashes with the hull. Sorry.

Where are the large forward cockpit scuppers?  Drop boards?  It needs a water resistant hatch.  Deal breaker.

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15 minutes ago, Israel Hands said:

Now that we are getting back to "real sailboats," may I present

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1982 island trader 46 - $7500 

https://eastnc.craigslist.org/boa/d/bridgeton-1982-island-trader-46/6980305402.html

I would love to see what's growing down below. Notice there are no interior photos. Hmmmm...

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9 hours ago, socalrider said:

Speechless indeed!

I like the girls. The dog does not look like a real 'boat dog' but he looks like a good guy

Who the fuck thinks it's a good idea to have a fire in the cockpit? Is this some kind of pinhead new-age crystal-y thing?

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23 minutes ago, Israel Hands said:

I would love to see what's growing down below. Notice there are no interior photos. Hmmmm...

There was an old man living on this boat last year. I wonder what happened.

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38 minutes ago, Steam Flyer said:

I like the girls. The dog does not look like a real 'boat dog' but he looks like a good guy

Who the fuck thinks it's a good idea to have a fire in the cockpit? Is this some kind of pinhead new-age crystal-y thing?

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Indeed. Once you get past the flames in the cockpit, licking at the varnished table leaves, and what appears to be either a fixed tube or (God forbid) a hose feeding propane to the fire...

The girls are drinking wine, the photo-taker an IPA. Put that damn fire out, get under the blanket, all good.

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1 hour ago, Steam Flyer said:

I like the girls. The dog does not look like a real 'boat dog' but he looks like a good guy

Who the fuck thinks it's a good idea to have a fire in the cockpit? Is this some kind of pinhead new-age crystal-y thing?

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I spent 20 years in the Navy ensuring that there were NOT fires aboard ship, and now this idiocy shows up.

Also:

truly built for crossing oceans!

And not a single handhold or grab bar in sight anywhere in the cabin or elsewhere.

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3 hours ago, Steam Flyer said:

I like the girls. The dog does not look like a real 'boat dog' but he looks like a good guy

Who the fuck thinks it's a good idea to have a fire in the cockpit? Is this some kind of pinhead new-age crystal-y thing?

FB- Doug

The one holding the wheel is quite attractive.

The boat, however...good luck grabbing a cold beer on port tack without wearing the contents of that fridge. .

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2 hours ago, Ajax said:

And not a single handhold or grab bar in sight anywhere in the cabin or elsewhere.

Yeah, I love the combination of the "built for crossing oceans", new "heavy offshore" sails, and a fire pit in the cockpit, fridge that swings open on port tack, etc... If you're gonna do a San Diego party boat, just do it & forget about the sails & stuff.  

The original layout had a console where the ottoman is.  Wonder if he still has it?

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On 8/19/2019 at 7:07 AM, Steam Flyer said:

What you all aren't seeing is the extending robotic arm that holds the chartplotter out & up, it responds to voice commands and holds at the exact height requested and also tilts it so there is no glare.

The one on the other side fetches you a beer and/or coffee

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Alexa, what's our course? or
A new take on  "On your knees b**ch"
 

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44 minutes ago, Marcjsmith said:

The LED rope lights over the galley is a nice touch

 

Yes I was going to point out that someone was mistaken when they said there were no handholds - it's just that they have been taken up with decorative rope lights. That would hurt!

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17 hours ago, socalrider said:

You all don't understand:

1) The boat is called Oceanis

2) There are at least three ways to stay warm on the boat

3) San Diego is on the Ocean

= ocean ready 

only the dog seems to disagree, but what does he know!

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2 hours ago, AnotherSailor said:

You all don't understand:

1) The boat is called Oceanis

2) There are at least three ways to stay warm on the boat

3) San Diego is on the Ocean

= ocean ready 

only the dog seems to disagree, but what does he know!

Two outta three ain't bad.

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I think any ad that lists (as the one above does) the following items as 'selling features' mocks itself:

  • 1 walk in closet
  • 50" 4k TV
  • Honda 2000 generator
  • Portable wine fridge
  • Custom walk in closet (for the ladies)

So I am not sure if there are two "walk in" closets or just one but repeated twice.  

Nothing says 'dock condo' like those accouterments.  

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Not often you find a boat that's been so thoughtfully upgraded over the years.

https://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1985/islander-34-2-3558180/

The current owner has owned the boat about 20 years.

Equipment List

12 Volt Refrigeration

Micrologic Loran C (Inoperative)

Autohelm Belt Style Autopilot(The condition of the unit is unknown.  The current owner has not used the Autopilot at all since he has owned the boat.)

Original Signet Instruments Speed Depth Wind (Not sure if they are working)

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9 minutes ago, Steam Flyer said:
4 hours ago, Israel Hands said:
4 hours ago, herdingbats said:

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If you're thinking about buying at an attractive price, this may be the one.

Sorry, but that ain't the one.

Neither the price NOR the boat is attractive.

It's fractally ugly. Did you notice the hood ornament?

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Such a pastoral scene, looking towards the penal colonies of Mission.:ph34r: A good hideout for the first 24 hours, albeit a might damp.

Not sure of the pedigree here...mystery hull.

 

 

" No two words go together quite as well as "free" and "sailboat"
This beauty has apparently never seen the water. 50' length, 14' width.
Fibreglass construction
It is unfinished and needs the next chapter of construction.
Trust me, you want this! Your wife will be ok with it!
No tire kickers please.
No I will not deliver it.
This boat requires a crane or some sort of boat moving crew.
Thanks " Free sailboat hull - boats - by owner

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1 hour ago, Norse Horse said:

Such a pastoral scene, looking towards the penal colonies of Mission.:ph34r: A good hideout for the first 24 hours, albeit a might damp.

Not sure of the pedigree here...mystery hull.

 

 

" No two words go together quite as well as "free" and "sailboat"
This beauty has apparently never seen the water. 50' length, 14' width.
Fibreglass construction
It is unfinished and needs the next chapter of construction.
Trust me, you want this! Your wife will be ok with it!
No tire kickers please.
No I will not deliver it.
This boat requires a crane or some sort of boat moving crew.
Thanks " Free sailboat hull - boats - by owner

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I think it's ready for a Viking funeral, except it's such an offence against carbon sequestration.

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34 minutes ago, Ishmael said:

I think it's ready for a Viking funeral, except it's such an offence against carbon sequestration.

If it was a twin keeler they could at least hook it to the Massey Ferguson and plow the back 40.

Stand it on it's end and make a grain silo out of it.

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4 hours ago, Norse Horse said:

Not sure of the pedigree here...mystery hull.

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It's an Ariel 48 - designed by Vladimir Plavsic. I think it was one of those "We'll build 6 and mine will be the profit" kind of deals that were so common in the 70's.

Except they never built 6 - more like 2 or 3 and AFAIK none were ever completed.

A guy had the bright finished plug across Grand Boulevard from me in the 80's. It was gorgeous but he let it deteriorate until it was used as a prop in some sort of disaster flick.

That free hull cost somebody the price of a condo 40 years ago.

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7 hours ago, SloopJonB said:
12 hours ago, Norse Horse said:
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It's an Ariel 48 - designed by Vladimir Plavsic. I think it was one of those "We'll build 6 and mine will be the profit" kind of deals that were so common in the 70's.

Except they never built 6 - more like 2 or 3 and AFAIK none were ever completed.

A guy had the bright finished plug across Grand Boulevard from me in the 80's. It was gorgeous but he let it deteriorate until it was used as a prop in some sort of disaster flick.

That free hull cost somebody the price of a condo 40 years ago.

I would say, it will make a great planter but it looks like it already is one

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50 minutes ago, Steam Flyer said:

I would say, it will make a great planter but it looks like it already is one

- DSK

The Fractal Dinghy has made it back, again to tampabay craigslist:

https://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/boa/d/newburg-homebuilt-sailboat-2003/6983150751.html

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I admire how someone gave him a dinghy stern, and he grew the rest of the boat, mathematically from that boat seed....

Also, judging from the painted waterline, that is one heavy layup on the hull.

- Stumbling

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I like the ladder stand off rack “blended” into the transom for the traveler support.

Every time this evergreen shows up here, I find more to marvel at thanks to the ingenious mariners of Florida.

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3 minutes ago, Sail4beer said:

I like the ladder stand off rack “blended” into the transom for the traveler support.

Every time this evergreen shows up here, I find more to marvel at thanks to the ingenious mariners of Florida.

This is actually a Maryland builder.   He is just casting his net far and wide for a mullet to take this treasure.

I saw this boat on the Maryland Craigslist, over a year and a half ago and then it appeared in Florida CL last year.

- Stumbling

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37 minutes ago, stumblingthunder said:

The Fractal Dinghy has made it back, again to tampabay craigslist:

https://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/boa/d/newburg-homebuilt-sailboat-2003/6983150751.html

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I admire how someone gave him a dinghy stern, and he grew the rest of the boat, mathematically from that boat seed....

Also, judging from the painted waterline, that is one heavy layup on the hull.

- Stumbling

Actually it looks like it has been much modified from the pics in earlier ads.

I'm kind of puzzled how a person smart enough to build such a thing could not realize that boats have been built before and have at least seen a couple of them. There are some pics of it sailing on some of the earlier ads.

The drain is also a product of original thought.

FB- Doug

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