Fah Kiew Tu 2,186 Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 6 hours ago, andykane said: I feel bad mocking this one because the workmanship actually looks quite good, but between the Beta 38 with two stainless steel Porsche mufflers, charming beadboard interior accented with Sonoran Mesquite, and the staggering $270,000 price tag it's a definite candidate. Plus, judging by the transom immersion, it's floating a solid 1-2 feet below the design waterline, which is scary. https://seattle.craigslist.org/kit/bod/d/nordland-31-ft-custom-pilothouse-cutter/7052325840.html Who thought it was a good idea to put a steam locomotive cab on top of a boat hull? FKT 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jim in Halifax 270 Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 That Silverado is what Brent Swain would have produced if he had learned how to weld and had money... (not sure why the mock about the Beta 38 diesel tho?) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Steam Flyer 5,446 Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 9 hours ago, andykane said: I feel bad mocking this one because the workmanship actually looks quite good, but between the Beta 38 with two stainless steel Porsche mufflers, charming beadboard interior accented with Sonoran Mesquite, and the staggering $270,000 price tag it's a definite candidate. Plus, judging by the transom immersion, it's floating a solid 1-2 feet below the design waterline, which is scary. https://seattle.craigslist.org/kit/bod/d/nordland-31-ft-custom-pilothouse-cutter/7052325840.html Looks like a "Spray" hull with a much taller rig, which is a bad idea, and much bigger cabin trunk added, which is not necessarily a good idea although it's necessary if you want more than crawling headroom. The locomotive cab is definitely a ?WTF? maybe he put in a steam whistle along with the 2 Porsche mufflers... why 2? Why Porsche? Kinda cool but seriously nuts. FB- Doug Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sail4beer 2,442 Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 Is that the new Tesla boat? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Black Sox 810 Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 4 hours ago, Fah Kiew Tu said: Who thought it was a good idea to put a steam locomotive cab on top of a boat hull? FKT Is the boat owner one Casey Jones? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hukilau 132 Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 That is a very tall rig for a motorsailer. I kinda like the interior. And she looks to be very well built. But that's such a personal design, inside and out, that he's going to have a tough time finding a buyer. At least until he drops the price substantially. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Israel Hands 662 Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 2 hours ago, Steam Flyer said: Looks like a "Spray" hull with a much taller rig, which is a bad idea, and much bigger cabin trunk added, which is not necessarily a good idea although it's necessary if you want more than crawling headroom. The locomotive cab is definitely a ?WTF? maybe he put in a steam whistle along with the 2 Porsche mufflers... why 2? Why Porsche? Kinda cool but seriously nuts. FB- Doug This would be a good new home for The Old Lady who lived in a Shoe. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
andykane 165 Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 5 hours ago, Jim in Halifax said: (not sure why the mock about the Beta 38 diesel tho?) Purely for the two stainless steel Porsche mufflers attached to said engine. Otherwise Beta's a great choice - I've got a Beta 25 which just purrs, although admittedly I went for a more traditional muffler solution. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SloopJonB 8,861 Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 4 hours ago, Steam Flyer said: 2 Porsche mufflers... why 2? Why Porsche? To demonstrate the level of quality he put into the boat of course. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stumblingthunder 577 Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 14 hours ago, andykane said: I feel bad mocking this one because the workmanship actually looks quite good, but between the Beta 38 with two stainless steel Porsche mufflers, charming beadboard interior accented with Sonoran Mesquite, and the staggering $270,000 price tag it's a definite candidate. Plus, judging by the transom immersion, it's floating a solid 1-2 feet below the design waterline, which is scary. https://seattle.craigslist.org/kit/bod/d/nordland-31-ft-custom-pilothouse-cutter/7052325840.html Telescope house and telescope motor sailer, separated at birth? An inquiring mind wants to know! - Stumbling Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Excoded Tom 1,572 Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 On 1/8/2020 at 10:25 PM, andykane said: I feel bad mocking this one because the workmanship actually looks quite good, but between the Beta 38 with two stainless steel Porsche mufflers, charming beadboard interior accented with Sonoran Mesquite, and the staggering $270,000 price tag it's a definite candidate. Plus, judging by the transom immersion, it's floating a solid 1-2 feet below the design waterline, which is scary. https://seattle.craigslist.org/kit/bod/d/nordland-31-ft-custom-pilothouse-cutter/7052325840.html I Admire the standing headroom underneath the giant RIB on some kind of elevator. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
No Bargers 21 Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 2 hours ago, Plenipotentiary Tom said: I Admire the standing headroom underneath the giant RIB on some kind of elevator. Tom what were you thinking admiring in the mocking thread? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Excoded Tom 1,572 Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 17 minutes ago, No Bargers said: Tom what were you thinking admiring in the mocking thread? I was just overwhelmed with Admiration at the sight of it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Veeger 360 Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 On 1/8/2020 at 7:25 PM, andykane said: I feel bad mocking this one because the workmanship actually looks quite good, but between the Beta 38 with two stainless steel Porsche mufflers, charming beadboard interior accented with Sonoran Mesquite, and the staggering $270,000 price tag it's a definite candidate. Plus, judging by the transom immersion, it's floating a solid 1-2 feet below the design waterline, which is scary. https://seattle.craigslist.org/kit/bod/d/nordland-31-ft-custom-pilothouse-cutter/7052325840.html Built with love, skill and a lot of dollars, thus making it another in a long line of boating/life tragedies. The only thing missing was an understanding of boat design and the consequences of modifications..... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chester 787 Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 I'd be tempted to sell the rig and sails and have a mobo Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bull City 1,660 Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 20,000 hours of work. Think about it. That would be 2,000 ten-hour days. If you worked 300 days a year, that would be over 6½ years. That is fucking crazy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Israel Hands 662 Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 40 minutes ago, Bull City said: 20,000 hours of work. Think about it. That would be 2,000 ten-hour days. If you worked 300 days a year, that would be over 6½ years. That is fucking crazy. Putting those hours into something else might have yielded a well-developed talent! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Diarmuid 735 Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 21 minutes ago, Israel Hands said: Putting those hours into something else might have yielded a well-developed talent! Or two additional Malcolm Gladwells, which nobody has asked for ever.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SloopJonB 8,861 Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 2 hours ago, Bull City said: 20,000 hours of work. Think about it. That would be 2,000 ten-hour days. If you worked 300 days a year, that would be over 6½ years. That is fucking crazy. Standard work year is 1950 hours (37.5/week) so that is actually 10 years of full time work. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SloopJonB 8,861 Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 1 hour ago, Israel Hands said: Putting those hours into something else might have yielded a well-developed talent! Well it does seem to have developed decent alloy boat building skills. Just not any sort of design skills. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bull City 1,660 Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 1 hour ago, Bull City said: 20,000 hours of work. Think about it. That would be 2,000 ten-hour days. If you worked 300 days a year, that would be over 6½ years. That is fucking crazy. Self Quote Alert And he wants $270,000 for this well constructed 31-foot pile of aluminum. Let's look at few other options. I looked on Yachtworld for motorsailers, 30-33 feet for $50-270K. The most expensive is a 2017 Jeanneau Sun Fast 3200 for $156K, or a few Nauticat 33's for $110 to 150K, but in Europe. Or a 2000 32' Tayana Vancouver in CA for $104K. But, hey, get the aluminum baby for $270K! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bull City 1,660 Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 3 minutes ago, SloopJonB said: Standard work year is 1950 hours (37.5/week) so that is actually 10 years of full time work. Maybe in Canada but not in USA Gilead. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ishmael 6,673 Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 2 hours ago, Bull City said: Maybe in Canada but not in USA Gilead. Not for men in Gilead, anyhow. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Monkey Butler 104 Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 10 hours ago, Bull City said: 20,000 hours of work. Think about it. That would be 2,000 ten-hour days. If you worked 300 days a year, that would be over 6½ years. That is fucking crazy. And you would still wind up with an overweight all aluminum swiss army knife version of a Spray replica. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bull City 1,660 Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 4 hours ago, Monkey Butler said: And you would still wind up with an overweight all aluminum swiss army knife version of a Spray replica. It could have been worse. Suppose he had decided on stainless steel instead of aluminum. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Slim 103 Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 Stonehorse for $9700, but.... https://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/boa/d/new-town-sailboat-stonehorse26/7050829845.html Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Schakel 128 Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 I like the steering wheel! She is for sale: $1500 Tampa Florida 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bull City 1,660 Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 ^^ "please only serious buyers." Yes, only a serious buyer would be interested in "west with potter," also with a "head turner" color scheme. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sail4beer 2,442 Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 4 hours ago, Schakel said: I like the steering wheel! She is for sale: $1500 Tampa Florida I’m catching a buzz just looking at that! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sail4beer 2,442 Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chester 787 Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 Grampian was more than a sailor! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bristol-Cruiser 1,122 Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 9 hours ago, Schakel said: I like the steering wheel! She is for sale: $1500 Tampa Florida Look on the bright side, you would always been able to find your boat in the marina or anchorage. This boat is 'unique' in the proper sense of the word. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Diarmuid 735 Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 7 hours ago, Sail4beer said: They don't call them 'pipe berths' for nuthin'. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SloopJonB 8,861 Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 9 hours ago, Sail4beer said: That looks like it's intended for doing the bottom of those big boats with 10 & 12 foot blade keels. Can strap in and fully recline for sanding & painting instead of rigging all that scaffolding. No? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ishmael 6,673 Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 2 hours ago, SloopJonB said: That looks like it's intended for doing the bottom of those big boats with 10 & 12 foot blade keels. Can strap in and fully recline for sanding & painting instead of rigging all that scaffolding. No? You'll be totally fucked either way. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SASSAFRASS 614 Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 On 1/8/2020 at 10:25 PM, andykane said: I feel bad mocking this one because the workmanship actually looks quite good, but between the Beta 38 with two stainless steel Porsche mufflers, charming beadboard interior accented with Sonoran Mesquite, and the staggering $270,000 price tag it's a definite candidate. Plus, judging by the transom immersion, it's floating a solid 1-2 feet below the design waterline, which is scary. https://seattle.craigslist.org/kit/bod/d/nordland-31-ft-custom-pilothouse-cutter/7052325840.html When the Dashews and Pardeys drop acid and design a boat....... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ishmael 6,673 Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 1 hour ago, SASSAFRASS said: When the Dashews and Pardeys drop acid and design a boat....... Starting with a 1952 steam locomotive. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Santana20AE 216 Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 10 hours ago, Ishmael said: Starting with a 1952 steam locomotive. I’m not sure we ever built a steam locomotive as late as 1952. That said, I truly believe no builder of locomotives would ever, knowingly, allow one of their products to be aboard this “craft.” Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Steam Flyer 5,446 Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 10 hours ago, Ishmael said: 11 hours ago, SASSAFRASS said: When the Dashews and Pardeys drop acid and design a boat....... Starting with a 1952 steam locomotive. Nah, they had more rounded sections.... FB- Doug Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stumblingthunder 577 Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 https://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/boa/d/largo-16-ft-plywood-sail-with-trailer/7054338012.html " Built by some guy in Ky in 2011, I bought from him in 2015. Petrel sail boat. Floats great, Takes on a little water, center board gets stuck needs help. Easy simple boat to mess around with, but needs help to make it a perfect. Trailer and motor mount and sailing rigging. Didn’t have much luck sailing it. But had a lot of fun taking her out. Please email for info and appointments to see. " Some Guy has boat building operations all around the world, thus being the largest builder of 'yachts' in the free world! His design is a little more freestyle than the fractal panel boat (which has made another recent appearance in the Florida Craigslists: https://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/boa/d/newburg-homebuilt-sailboat-2003/7053173735.html) Given the statement "Didn’t have much luck sailing it. But had a lot of fun taking her out.," I think there may be a few holes in o'l Some Guy's grasp of sailboat design theory and practice... - Stumbling Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hukilau 132 Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 "Floats great"... What higher praise for a sailboat is there? 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stumblingthunder 577 Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 On 1/13/2020 at 3:39 AM, SloopJonB said: That looks like it's intended for doing the bottom of those big boats with 10 & 12 foot blade keels. Can strap in and fully recline for sanding & painting instead of rigging all that scaffolding. No? That’s for cleaning the bottom by keelhauling the crew member who muffed up the takedown at the leeward mark, thus losing first place on the last race of the last day! - Stumbling Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Santana20AE 216 Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 On 1/13/2020 at 10:18 AM, stumblingthunder said: https://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/boa/d/largo-16-ft-plywood-sail-with-trailer/7054338012.html " Built by some guy in Ky in 2011, I bought from him in 2015. Petrel sail boat. Floats great, Takes on a little water, center board gets stuck needs help. Easy simple boat to mess around with, but needs help to make it a perfect. Trailer and motor mount and sailing rigging. Didn’t have much luck sailing it. But had a lot of fun taking her out. Please email for info and appointments to see. " Some Guy has boat building operations all around the world, thus being the largest builder of 'yachts' in the free world! His design is a little more freestyle than the fractal panel boat (which has made another recent appearance in the Florida Craigslists: https://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/boa/d/newburg-homebuilt-sailboat-2003/7053173735.html) Given the statement "Didn’t have much luck sailing it. But had a lot of fun taking her out.," I think there may be a few holes in o'l Some Guy's grasp of sailboat design theory and practice... - Stumbling I am hoping the finish on the port side is an attemp at Dazzle Camouflage. It do look like she’s seen better days, even considering her somewhat homely looks. The tiedown going through the port hole is really unique Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Santana20AE 216 Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 1 minute ago, Santana20AE said: I am hoping the finish on the port side is an attemp at Dazzle Camouflage. It do look like she’s seen better days, even considering her somewhat homely looks. The tiedown going through the port hole is really unique I am going to make an addendum to my post......All the money in Christendom would not make that boat “Perfect.” Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Monkey Butler 104 Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 I know it isn't a Craigslist ad but it is friggin mockable as all hell. This guy is thinks he might have gotten screwed on this ferro yacht: 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
justsomeguy! 692 Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 Ugh, the semi-literate. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Israel Hands 662 Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 14 minutes ago, justsomeguy! said: Ugh, the semi-literate. That's just the stream-of-consciousness writing of an Adderall-stimulated millennial "new boat owner." Who just realized he was had at ferro-cement. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
justsomeguy! 692 Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 7 minutes ago, Israel Hands said: That's just the stream-of-consciousness writing of an Adderall-stimulated millennial "new boat owner." Who just realized he was had at ferro-cement. If he's "looking for advice", he'd do well to make his missives a bit easier on the eyes, not to mention the brain. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hukilau 132 Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 I don't know, I'm ambivalent about our new colleague; I mean, how gullible is he? That's some world-class ignorance and lack of common sense there. But I still feel bad for him. No matter how much of this is his own fault, he's still the victim here. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SloopJonB 8,861 Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 "Don't talk to anyone else - they're all weird"? And he still went ahead? That falls into the W.C. Fields area "Never give a sucker an even break or smarten up a chump". 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Monkey Butler 104 Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 Am I the only one thinking that the down payment was the ONLY payment that the seller was expecting to collect and the "tell the locals your boat sitting for three months" was just to put as much distance between this slowly disintegrating piece of rubble and themselves as possible before anyone wised up? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Excoded Tom 1,572 Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 22 minutes ago, Monkey Butler said: Am I the only one thinking that the down payment was the ONLY payment that the seller was expecting to collect and the "tell the locals your boat sitting for three months" was just to put as much distance between this slowly disintegrating piece of rubble and themselves as possible before anyone wised up? No, I was thinking anyone who signs over a boat after a "deposit" probably owes the marina a bunch of money. Which the new owner now owes... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Autonomous 403 Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 Poor bastard. We can only imagine how he came about his stupidity. Could be genetic, self inflicted, brain injury or an unfortunate combination of factors. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Monkey Butler 104 Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 (edited) I didn't see where he mentioned he was blind. I mean all there is to be described in the photos is crumbling cement, rust, wires, hoses and toes. <<< Edit. Think I found explanation for all this. Just me or does it look like a sixth toe on that foot? >>> Edited January 16, 2020 by Monkey Butler <<< Sasquatch bought a ferro yacht >>> Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chester 787 Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 That'll buff, scrape and grind right out. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Steam Flyer 5,446 Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 On 1/14/2020 at 7:16 PM, Santana20AE said: I am hoping the finish on the port side is an attemp at Dazzle Camouflage. It do look like she’s seen better days, even considering her somewhat homely looks. The tiedown going through the port hole is really unique "unique" is one word for it. At least this guy isn't quite as screwed as the "should I make a 2nd payment on this ferrocement boat?" guy. FB- Doug Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Monkey Butler 104 Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 2 hours ago, Plenipotentiary Tom said: No, I was thinking anyone who signs over a boat after a "deposit" probably owes the marina a bunch of money. Which the new owner now owes... Tom, you are My Quicks Draw McGraw, and I am your Baba Looey Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stumblingthunder 577 Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 15 hours ago, Monkey Butler said: I didn't see where he mentioned he was blind. I mean all there is to be described in the photos is crumbling cement, rust, wires, hoses and toes. <<< Edit. Think I found explanation for all this. Just me or does it look like a sixth toe on that foot? >>> Then engine melted into rust puddles! - Stumbling Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SloopJonB 8,861 Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 I've bought and restored boats that people warned me away from but really..... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stumblingthunder 577 Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 And speaking of puddles of rust: https://gainesville.craigslist.org/boa/d/pensacola-sailboats/7047559875.html "1968 Sutton steel schooner. 75' LOA. 62' Length on Deck. Built at Sutton yard in Tarpon Springs by George Sutton who also designed her. Has sailed transatlantic many times plus numerous trips to the Caribbean. Draft only 5.5' full keel, attached rudder. Main & fore mast (steel) abt. 63'(gets under most ICW bridges) Power is 150 hp Isuzu 6BD1, also has Koler 12 kw generator, Standard 600 gpd water maker, 2 AC's , 4 burner SS stove/oven. Lay out is 4 cabins, large aft cabin with ensuite head, tub and shower. Next forward is a large eat in galley with a L shaped dining area and table. Next forward is the main salon with a L shaped settee to port and another settee to starboard, also a navigation area to port. Forward of this area is a private stateroom with double berth, sink and closet space. Next forward are 2 heads with showers. Forward of the showers are 2 double cabins with bunk beds arranged one over the other, each having a sink also. Next is a collision bulkhead. Forward of the bulkhead is a workshop, with chain locker. (Was paid crew sleeping area at one time). Tankage is 1800 gallons diesel, 600 gallons water. Refrigerator and freezer in place.(Grunert). Present owner has spent over $100K on this vessel, but sadly needs about that more spent on her. This is a MAJOR restoration project. Interior is mostly African mahogany. If you have the time and money to restore this once fine vessel please contact me, no dreamers please!! Hull is 5/16" Corten steel in poor condition. Engine and generator may have fresh water intrusion. Transmission is twin disc 506 with a 2:1 reduction, turning a 28" prop on a 2" ss shaft. Sails are included and are set-up on Hood ProFurls. (behind the mast on Main and Fore) also has 150% Genoa and loose footed staysail. May be viewed @ Pensacola Marine Complex, name is Lady Patricia. This boat is a major project!!" This rust bucket? You need a dreamer with a steel yard to take this on. If the seller is noting that the hull is in poor condition, there may be only molecules of steel thickness left, sort of holding the water out of the boat! - Stumbling (Second close look at this and I think it may be a repeat. Its shocking some of my ganglia into remembrance) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lorax 7 Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 Had to throw this one on here: https://boston.craigslist.org/sob/boa/d/buzzards-bay-30-bayliner-bucaneer/7053957106.html Besides the “tilework” all around the cabin, my favorite quote re: 25hp short shaft outboard on her: . I have a 25 merc short shaft on her now, cruises!!- But try stopping her!! Lol! She needs a LONG SHAFT outboard!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Windward 428 Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 58 minutes ago, Lorax said: Had to throw this one on here: https://boston.craigslist.org/sob/boa/d/buzzards-bay-30-bayliner-bucaneer/7053957106.html Besides the “tilework” all around the cabin, my favorite quote re: 25hp short shaft outboard on her: . I have a 25 merc short shaft on her now, cruises!!- But try stopping her!! Lol! She needs a LONG SHAFT outboard!!! clearly the cabinetry and surface treatments indicate a part time job at Home Depot. Once the shelves are stocked (front and faced I hope), the sails cannot be hoisted. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Autonomous 403 Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 Many years ago I worked as a garbageman. As a former professional in such matters the ferro & steel boats above have a certain familiarity... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
impetuous_donkey 19 Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 19 hours ago, Monkey Butler said: I didn't see where he mentioned he was blind. I mean all there is to be described in the photos is crumbling cement, rust, wires, hoses and toes. <<< Edit. Think I found explanation for all this. Just me or does it look like a sixth toe on that foot? >>> Hey leave us 6 toed folks out of it.... P.S. fuck agent orange Quote Link to post Share on other sites
floater 41 Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 condition: excellent, and just 15K. https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/boa/d/berkeley-1981one-ton-class-ior-sailboat/7049007035.html listed. relentlessly. for perhaps 2 years now.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Monkey Butler 104 Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 4 hours ago, floater said: condition: excellent, and just 15K. https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/boa/d/berkeley-1981one-ton-class-ior-sailboat/7049007035.html listed. relentlessly. for perhaps 2 years now.. Looks like all of the "excellent" yacht grade stuff has been ripped out and is being replaced with "shitty" home improvement center quality construction lumber. And I'm sorry but I'm just not seeing this: "-Freshly painted bilge/compartments" 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Steam Flyer 5,446 Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 7 hours ago, impetuous_donkey said: On 1/15/2020 at 8:45 PM, Monkey Butler said: I didn't see where he mentioned he was blind. I mean all there is to be described in the photos is crumbling cement, rust, wires, hoses and toes. <<< Edit. Think I found explanation for all this. Just me or does it look like a sixth toe on that foot? >>> Hey leave us 6 toed folks out of it.... P.S. fuck agent orange You're just jealous because at least 6-fingered guys got a cool sword out of it. But honestly, if you were looking at a boat like this, would you fucking BUY it? If you were selling a boat like this, wouldn't you try and NOT take photos of huge flakes of rust... or maybe those are the good parts.... oy vey!! And the buyer was planning to making a 2nd payment!!!! Sometimes I just can't believe people.... FB- Doug Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fah Kiew Tu 2,186 Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 20 hours ago, Steam Flyer said: But honestly, if you were looking at a boat like this, would you fucking BUY it? No, and I'd be stepping *very* lightly on my way back to the dock/dinghy. Just in case. That boat is dead. FKT Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Santana20AE 216 Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 20 hours ago, Steam Flyer said: You're just jealous because at least 6-fingered guys got a cool sword out of it. But honestly, if you were looking at a boat like this, would you fucking BUY it? If you were selling a boat like this, wouldn't you try and NOT take photos of huge flakes of rust... or maybe those are the good parts.... oy vey!! And the buyer was planning to making a 2nd payment!!!! Sometimes I just can't believe people.... FB- Doug Wood can be replaced, fiberglass (GRP and its many variants) can be rebuilt, but cement? Flaky cement? Maybe a steel boat can be essentially rebuilt but if the rust was too deep, the pitting too bad, I would never trust it. But cement with likely rusty, corroded, weak rebar as a backbone. I would rather put my money and life in a old, worn out plastic cooler than the boat with the issues pictured. (And I won’t do that) My very first flight instructor explained it this way. It is better to be on the ground, wishing you were up flying than to be up flying and wishing you were on the ground. To paraphrase, it is better to be onshore, wishing you were sailing, than on a sinking rusty hulk, miles from shore, wishing you were on that shore. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Windward 428 Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 Love the title: Squished stainless steel boat - good for materials https://bellingham.craigslist.org/mat/d/bellingham-squished-stainless-steel/7041389917.html Though I must admit, I've not seen too many stainless steel boats. Now I have! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fah Kiew Tu 2,186 Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 4 hours ago, Santana20AE said: Wood can be replaced, fiberglass (GRP and its many variants) can be rebuilt, but cement? Flaky cement? Maybe a steel boat can be essentially rebuilt but if the rust was too deep, the pitting too bad, I would never trust it. You just don't understand steel boat construction. They're relatively easy to repair and the repair is as strong as the original construction. Ferro, OTOH - no. Once salt water has gotten to the steel armature, pretty much game over. I'd not have a ferro hull unless it was loaded with goodies and essentially free. Maybe not even then. Though I have thought of buying a decent sized one, trucking it home & sinking it into a pit in the ground. Instant spare accommodation and - bonus - where I live, as long as I pay the annual registration fee, local government can go piss up a rope, there's nothing they can do about it. FKT Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SloopJonB 8,861 Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 1 hour ago, Windward said: Love the title: Squished stainless steel boat - good for materials https://bellingham.craigslist.org/mat/d/bellingham-squished-stainless-steel/7041389917.html Though I must admit, I've not seen too many stainless steel boats. Now I have! Glad that's nearby - I need a quantity of crumpled and painted S/S. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
zenmasterfred 484 Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 1 hour ago, Windward said: Love the title: Squished stainless steel boat - good for materials https://bellingham.craigslist.org/mat/d/bellingham-squished-stainless-steel/7041389917.html Though I must admit, I've not seen too many stainless steel boats. Now I have! The bow fell off and the rest is buried in a dirty grave. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
zenmasterfred 484 Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 On 1/16/2020 at 9:44 AM, stumblingthunder said: And speaking of puddles of rust: https://gainesville.craigslist.org/boa/d/pensacola-sailboats/7047559875.html "1968 Sutton steel schooner. 75' LOA. 62' Length on Deck. Built at Sutton yard in Tarpon Springs by George Sutton who also designed her. Has sailed transatlantic many times plus numerous trips to the Caribbean. Draft only 5.5' full keel, attached rudder. Main & fore mast (steel) abt. 63'(gets under most ICW bridges) Power is 150 hp Isuzu 6BD1, also has Koler 12 kw generator, Standard 600 gpd water maker, 2 AC's , 4 burner SS stove/oven. Lay out is 4 cabins, large aft cabin with ensuite head, tub and shower. Next forward is a large eat in galley with a L shaped dining area and table. Next forward is the main salon with a L shaped settee to port and another settee to starboard, also a navigation area to port. Forward of this area is a private stateroom with double berth, sink and closet space. Next forward are 2 heads with showers. Forward of the showers are 2 double cabins with bunk beds arranged one over the other, each having a sink also. Next is a collision bulkhead. Forward of the bulkhead is a workshop, with chain locker. (Was paid crew sleeping area at one time). Tankage is 1800 gallons diesel, 600 gallons water. Refrigerator and freezer in place.(Grunert). Present owner has spent over $100K on this vessel, but sadly needs about that more spent on her. This is a MAJOR restoration project. Interior is mostly African mahogany. If you have the time and money to restore this once fine vessel please contact me, no dreamers please!! Hull is 5/16" Corten steel in poor condition. Engine and generator may have fresh water intrusion. Transmission is twin disc 506 with a 2:1 reduction, turning a 28" prop on a 2" ss shaft. Sails are included and are set-up on Hood ProFurls. (behind the mast on Main and Fore) also has 150% Genoa and loose footed staysail. May be viewed @ Pensacola Marine Complex, name is Lady Patricia. This boat is a major project!!" This rust bucket? You need a dreamer with a steel yard to take this on. If the seller is noting that the hull is in poor condition, there may be only molecules of steel thickness left, sort of holding the water out of the boat! - Stumbling (Second close look at this and I think it may be a repeat. Its shocking some of my ganglia into remembrance) Liveaboard ready, just move on w/ your crazy hippy momma... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ishmael 6,673 Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 5 minutes ago, zenmasterfred said: Liveaboard ready, just move on w/ your crazy hippo momma... You'll need a doublewide ladder for that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
zenmasterfred 484 Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 Maybe even a ramp to get the radio flyer from the hard to the deck w/ momma. Hopefully a chair rigged to lower her into the bowels of the ship. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ishmael 6,673 Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 3 minutes ago, zenmasterfred said: Maybe even a ramp to get the radio flyer from the hard to the deck w/ momma. Hopefully a chair rigged to lower her into the bowels of the ship. That just brought a tear to my eye. Such caring. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ishmael 6,673 Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 Homemade fiberglass kayak for sale. I wonder how much it weighs. https://www.usedvictoria.com/classified-ad/Kayak-homemade-fiberglass_35215794 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PaulinVictoria 99 Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 7 minutes ago, Ishmael said: Homemade fiberglass kayak for sale. I wonder how much it weighs. https://www.usedvictoria.com/classified-ad/Kayak-homemade-fiberglass_35215794 Wow. I'm disappointed it's in Saanich though, first glance I assumed it would be Sooke. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
andykane 165 Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 Does it include the local fauna? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SloopJonB 8,861 Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 11 hours ago, zenmasterfred said: Maybe even a ramp to get the radio flyer from the hard to the deck w/ momma. Hopefully a chair rigged to lower her into the bowels of the ship. That's what the main halyard is for isn't it? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SloopJonB 8,861 Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 10 hours ago, Ishmael said: Homemade fiberglass kayak for sale. I wonder how much it weighs. https://www.usedvictoria.com/classified-ad/Kayak-homemade-fiberglass_35215794 Especially once the offsite cockpit is added. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Windward 428 Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 13 minutes ago, SloopJonB said: Especially once the offsite cockpit is added. Offsite? Either a typo or literary genius. A+ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Leeroy Jenkins 230 Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 One guess which one he says it was. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SloopJonB 8,861 Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 Neither - straight from the ad. Well, he misspelled the name so I guess typo fits. I have a cockpit for it. In Gordonhead. Gordon Head is a neighbourhood in Victoria. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Autonomous 403 Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 The joke is offsite. Apparently. Quote
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