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Well, I'm not sure I should admit this but that boat was built by my long time former neighbor, yep, B. Lewis.  As a fellow sometime mocker I am getting a kick out of all your comments but I will come

Ain't that the truth.  If he would have just humbly and simply said "i adopted and built on this method and built a few boats, lived simply and escaped the rat race all my life, it works for me"  he c

No, no, you've got it all wrong. My comment about only doing one circumnavigation was an example of what people call "false modesty". Or "Irony". Look it up sometime. You're just another grifter

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20m Aluminum Catamaran Ferry built in survey by government in 1988 Brisbane Expo. It is now in the process of being converted to passage making houseboat - uncompleted project.

Excellent. Count me out!

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On 2/19/2020 at 11:23 AM, Marcjsmith said:

no sure if this a mocking craigslist ad or an ugly dodger candidate.  but what should be a santana 2023  is something entirely different....

https://annapolis.craigslist.org/boa/d/mayo-wd-schock-sail-boatmotor-trailer/7076678575.html

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An inclinometer is a definitive sign of a scaredy cat pussy.  An unfortunate, unworthy cunt.

Which leads me to ask.  If said cunt is afraid of heeling why did they put all that gross tonnage up there?  To do jumping jacks?

I am an off road snob and this inclinometer wisdom goes for Jeeps and other off road vehicles too.  If you can't feel it, fuck off.

There, I feel better.

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On 2/19/2020 at 7:02 PM, toddster said:

Looks enough like a dumpster, maybe you could just weld a lid onto it?  Except 22 tons... Might be tough to tip at the dump. 

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https://portland.craigslist.org/clc/boa/d/beavercreek-steel-boatwhite-detroit/7065547831.html

I'm guessing a couple of different people had a go at this one.  Now it has to go...

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I like it.  It's honest.  And heavy.

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On 2/18/2020 at 10:48 PM, bmiller said:

Another case af please haul my trash away and give me some money while you're at it.

restore with minor repairs.

 

wonder what major would be ?

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On 2/21/2020 at 1:17 PM, SloopJonB said:

$95K?

AYFKM

You're not seeing the bigger picture here, it was built to survey so it will pay for itself...

 

Holy crap, at least it looks like someone didn't waste too much time on it, just drop a ?caravan  ? bus ?? train carriage?? school building ?? onto the already made hulls.

I think this image best shows the mental process.  I have this and I have that, just combine and add water.  What could possibly go wrong???

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12 hours ago, Autonomous said:

An inclinometer is a definitive sign of a scaredy cat pussy.  An unfortunate, unworthy cunt.

It's a sign of a finely tuned performance.

My old Quarter Pounder sailed best at 17 degrees of heel. This was found after much experimenting.

If you can "feel" 17 degrees you're a better sailor than me.

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On 2/22/2020 at 9:32 AM, SloopJonB said:

It's a sign of a finely tuned performance.

My old Quarter Pounder sailed best at 17 degrees of heel. This was found after much experimenting.

If you can "feel" 17 degrees you're a better sailor than me.

I may have exaggerated a bit to add a dramatic flair.  On the other hand I don't think that Max Headroom boat has any polar diagrams stowed away in steerage.

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On 2/18/2020 at 7:58 AM, SloopJonB said:

I think someone is going to have a long wait for a rude awakening.

https://sunshine.craigslist.org/boa/d/halfmoon-bay-30-fin-keel-sloop/7077366250.html

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There is a spare hull available locally to any prospective purchaser - I'm sure it could be had cheap.

 

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You'd think that with all the money that's been spent on it over the past 40 years or so that they could have put a couple of ports in that cabin top.

Is that hull still there? It's been there since Don Malcolm had the joint! Who the hell paid the storage for so long.

And yup - the owner of Puck are on good drugs it seems.

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It's still there. Chris owned it until he died and Jonny inherited it so no storage charges, just forgone income from the space it occupies.

Jonny is planning to turn it into a reef off his Gambier property I think.

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10 hours ago, SloopJonB said:

It's still there. Chris owned it until he died and Jonny inherited it so no storage charges, just forgone income from the space it occupies.

Jonny is planning to turn it into a reef off his Gambier property I think.

Thanks for that SJB. I see the old Sky One Hundred is still up there for sale.  

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1 hour ago, bmiller said:

Directly below the mockable example https://sunshine.craigslist.org/boa/d/halfmoon-bay-30-fin-keel-sloop/7077366250.html

Is this nice boat. https://sunshine.craigslist.org/boa/d/north-island-ranger-33/7075486500.html

You think the guy selling the ferro boat could take a clue from that.

If he had a clue it would be lonely.

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27 minutes ago, Maxx Baqustae said:

Thanks for that SJB. I see the old Sky One Hundred is still up there for sale.  

Yes - $39K ask. It's a decent homebrew finish but seem solid.

If it had a decent hull finish it would be worth a look but it needs a few hundred hours of long boarding and a paint job to look decent.

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38 minutes ago, SloopJonB said:

Yes - $39K ask. It's a decent homebrew finish but seem solid.

If it had a decent hull finish it would be worth a look but it needs a few hundred hours of long boarding and a paint job to look decent.

It was a male mold built in his garage. Long time WVYC member that did the whole offshore experience. I was the paperboy when he was having it built. I raced with his son for many years. I got involved with the present owner for a bit and I got the impression the registry had lapsed and pretty tough to title it. It might be why that's not sold yet.  

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Here's an oddity. A 1986 Amel Mango being auctioned on ebay. With 5 days left it's at $30K (reserve not met).  Owner claims new baby interrupted world cruise plans, and refit is 85% complete. ;)  Still, if I were anywhere near Lewes, DE I'd be tempted to check it out.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1986-Amel-Mango/333520294416?hash=item4da75bd210:g:NYkAAOSwFFVeTWeF

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2 hours ago, Israel Hands said:

Here's an oddity. A 1986 Amel Mango being auctioned on ebay. With 5 days left it's at $30K (reserve not met).  Owner claims new baby interrupted world cruise plans, and refit is 85% complete. ;)  Still, if I were anywhere near Lewes, DE I'd be tempted to check it out.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1986-Amel-Mango/333520294416?hash=item4da75bd210:g:NYkAAOSwFFVeTWeF

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Death trap. Consider yourself fortunate that you're not near Lewes, Delaware:

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4 hours ago, Steam Flyer said:

Look at the bones! Run away-y!!!

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Y'know, while I'm not in love with the bones, if one were looking to sail away to anywhere and live aboard comfortably, this might not be a bad choice. Not a bad balance of SA/D, displace./length, and comfort ratio.  As Dudley Moore said of Volvos, "Sure, they're boxy, but they're safe."

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Why?

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Estate Sale: This 15' fiberglass sail boat has been slightly modified to close in the cabin entrance. It has not been in the water for the last 10 years and needs some TLC. The trailer needs a new tongue and the Johnson 3hp kicker may or may not work. The complete package comes with; 2 x gas tanks and a hose for the kicker, sails, a mast and rigging, a keel and ruder. We are open to offers.

https://www.usedvictoria.com/classified-ad/Estate-Sale-15-Sail-Boat-Trailer-and-Kicker-motor_35433630

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While the cubist dodger and overly excited pulpit are definitely mockworthy, I gotta say the ad itself seems totally reasonable. That's a Nordica 16 which is a great, solid, little boat. If it is all there rigging wise you could keep it on a mooring during the season, trailer it home for the winter, and have a cheap, simple and fun daysailor. Offer $500, rent a powerwasher, unbolt the dodger, and get out on the water.

Or maybe I just have a soft spot for the colour scheme - matches the Nordica 20 I once had.
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4 hours ago, Ishmael said:

Why?

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Estate Sale: This 15' fiberglass sail boat has been slightly modified to close in the cabin entrance. It has not been in the water for the last 10 years and needs some TLC. The trailer needs a new tongue and the Johnson 3hp kicker may or may not work. The complete package comes with; 2 x gas tanks and a hose for the kicker, sails, a mast and rigging, a keel and ruder. We are open to offers.

https://www.usedvictoria.com/classified-ad/Estate-Sale-15-Sail-Boat-Trailer-and-Kicker-motor_35433630

It's Canada. He wants to grow pot. 

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On 2/18/2020 at 7:58 AM, SloopJonB said:

I think someone is going to have a long wait for a rude awakening.

https://sunshine.craigslist.org/boa/d/halfmoon-bay-30-fin-keel-sloop/7077366250.html

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There is a spare hull available locally to any prospective purchaser - I'm sure it could be had cheap.

 

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You'd think that with all the money that's been spent on it over the past 40 years or so that they could have put a couple of ports in that cabin top.

Maybe all the gear can be removed and installed on a non concrete anchor.

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14 hours ago, Ishmael said:

Why?

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Estate Sale: This 15' fiberglass sail boat has been slightly modified to close in the cabin entrance. It has not been in the water for the last 10 years and needs some TLC. The trailer needs a new tongue and the Johnson 3hp kicker may or may not work. The complete package comes with; 2 x gas tanks and a hose for the kicker, sails, a mast and rigging, a keel and ruder. We are open to offers.

https://www.usedvictoria.com/classified-ad/Estate-Sale-15-Sail-Boat-Trailer-and-Kicker-motor_35433630

I don't see the mockworthiness; it's only "slightly modified".  Says so right there in the copy.

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OK, so this boat in the picture is not the one that's for sale in the ad.... huh?

https://philadelphia.craigslist.org/boa/d/sandy-level-tornado-sailboat/7083607619.html

" PICTURE IS NOT OF THE BOAT FOR SALE (I believe mine is bigger and definitely better condition. Is just for reference for a similar style.) I am out of state but will be able to post pics and meet for any inquiries 3/4-3/6. I am unsure of length so guessed. I believe it is between 20-30ft. "

Which is good, because I definitely don't want to buy the boat in this picture

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Oh and BTW what the heck kind of boat is that anyway?

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9 minutes ago, Steam Flyer said:

OK, so this boat in the picture is not the one that's for sale in the ad.... huh?

https://philadelphia.craigslist.org/boa/d/sandy-level-tornado-sailboat/7083607619.html

" PICTURE IS NOT OF THE BOAT FOR SALE (I believe mine is bigger and definitely better condition. Is just for reference for a similar style.) I am out of state but will be able to post pics and meet for any inquiries 3/4-3/6. I am unsure of length so guessed. I believe it is between 20-30ft. "

Which is good, because I definitely don't want to buy the boat in this picture

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Oh and BTW what the heck kind of boat is that anyway?

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IDK but that's a little-ass tire on the axle compared to the spare.

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7 hours ago, Israel Hands said:
7 hours ago, Steam Flyer said:

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Oh and BTW what the heck kind of boat is that anyway?

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IDK but that's a little-ass tire on the axle compared to the spare.

That's not a spare, that's a fender.

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The Tornado is a catamaran, so that really isn't the boat in the picture.  He says it's fun to sail, but doesn't know if it's 20 or 30 feet long, and he doesn't seem to know if it's a catamaran.  Hmmm.  

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36 minutes ago, Hukilau said:

The Tornado is a catamaran, so that really isn't the boat in the picture.  He says it's fun to sail, but doesn't know if it's 20 or 30 feet long, and he doesn't seem to know if it's a catamaran.  Hmmm.  

He probably doesn't know what it rates either....

Except mockery. I'm sure he understands that it rates mockery!

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20 hours ago, Steam Flyer said:

OK, so this boat in the picture is not the one that's for sale in the ad.... huh?

https://philadelphia.craigslist.org/boa/d/sandy-level-tornado-sailboat/7083607619.html

" PICTURE IS NOT OF THE BOAT FOR SALE (I believe mine is bigger and definitely better condition. Is just for reference for a similar style.) I am out of state but will be able to post pics and meet for any inquiries 3/4-3/6. I am unsure of length so guessed. I believe it is between 20-30ft. "

Which is good, because I definitely don't want to buy the boat in this picture

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Oh and BTW what the heck kind of boat is that anyway?

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O'Day Daysailer, isn't it?

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Very distinctive transition from fine bow to flat sections.

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15 hours ago, SloopJonB said:

Kim needs that for his yard.

Funny you say that... When I was in grad school one of my oceanography profs had a huge fisherman anchor salvaged from the old R/V Eastward in his front yard, including a 6' diameter hawser that ran from the anchor up to a bight around his chimney.  Hilarious and I wish I had a picture.

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On 2/29/2020 at 5:39 PM, See Level said:

Not exactly mockworthy but...

Anyone need a storm anchor?

 

 

https://seattle.craigslist.org/tac/bpo/d/gig-harbor-boat-anchor-two-tons-7ft/7080346396.html

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That's the problem with trees; they're always trying to run off somewhere.

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Free boat, from another state, acquire at an estate sale.  What could go wrong...

fwiw. I did consider it, but after talking with the government types in Virginia, and Delaware, the hoops to jump through aren’t worth it...

https://washingtondc.craigslist.org/nva/boa/d/sterling-catalina-22-free/7084762403.html

Boat floats. Bought at estate sale. Needs new rigging and sails. No title for boat or trailer. (No leins). If you can haul it it’s yours

 

 

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On 2/24/2020 at 3:15 PM, Israel Hands said:

Here's an oddity. A 1986 Amel Mango being auctioned on ebay. With 5 days left it's at $30K (reserve not met).  Owner claims new baby interrupted world cruise plans, and refit is 85% complete. ;)  Still, if I were anywhere near Lewes, DE I'd be tempted to check it out.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1986-Amel-Mango/333520294416?hash=item4da75bd210:g:NYkAAOSwFFVeTWeF

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Original auction was ended at 42k. It was relisted Now sits a 50k

reserve not met.  https://www.ebay.com/itm/1986-Amel-Mango/333532483215?vxp=mtr&item=333532483215&pageci=e8f41ab7-af61-40ba-b406-d6216ee78e95&redirect=mobile

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13 hours ago, Marcjsmith said:

Original auction was ended at 42k. It was relisted Now sits a 50k 

I think I can predict the future on this one.... six months from now the owner will WISH they could get 42k for it.  

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Just now, Bugsy said:

I think I can predict the future on this one.... six months from now the owner will WISH they could get 42k for it.  

Asking prices on yatch world are going on 6 figures,  so I guess this person thinks that since the asking prices are so high,  there is no reason he should settle for mid 5 figures...  Lewes De isn't exactly the hot bed of big boat sailing though...also not really sure that Ebay is the best spot for a boat like this either.

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13 hours ago, Marcjsmith said:

You point out something that I find strange.  The auction ended and the owner turned around and re-listed it and immediately the bidding rose up 18.7% higher than the prior final bidding. A bunch of people were watching, so it's not like the whole auction had gone unnoticed. So how does the bidding price go up almost 20% immediately after re-listing? 

I have just requested the referenced additional photos and survey again...I did this last time around but they were not sent.

This boat WAS listed on yachtworld for over 100K before being listed on ebay.  I'm guessing that the boat has become a monthly money pit (and his life priorities have changed), so now the owner is truly ready to get rid of it. But who knows what his "reserve price" level is...it might be 100K.  Curious about the true history on this boat...is it a resurrected wreck, or just a broken dream?

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32 minutes ago, Israel Hands said:

You point out something that I find strange.  The auction ended and the owner turned around and re-listed it and immediately the bidding rose up 18.7% higher than the prior final bidding. A bunch of people were watching, so it's not like the whole auction had gone unnoticed. So how does the bidding price go up almost 20% immediately after re-listing? 

...is it a resurrected wreck, or just a broken dream?

Most likely he took advantage of the ebays policy to pull the ad, pay the fee before the reserve was met and cancel the  ad.  Then relist and have a few friends shill bid on it to boost the price.    If it doesn't make reserve, wash rinse repeat.

Looking at the amount of work done to it,  it looks like it should garner a higher price,  but like real estate, location  location location.  You don't drop the boat off in lewes  and expect to get full value, I at least I wouldn't.  I'd go to a place like Lewes to find a a steal of a deal. Or a cheap place to put the boat on the hard while I work on it.

this looks like it could be the boat, hard dodger, aft cabin, shadow looks like two sticks are up  Google earth has the image date as 6/18

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Milford,+DE+19963,+USA/@38.7800372,-75.1411608,42m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x89b897ff54b7de69:0x1b0f48a93aa57775!8m2!3d38.9340074!4d-75.3878525?hl=en

 

 

if you look at the original big history, it took 68 bids to get to 42K,  but only 12 to get to 50 on the new auction.  with one person making a 30K bid on the new auction.  smells funny...

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25 minutes ago, Marcjsmith said:

with one person making a 30K bid on the new auction.  smells funny...

Yes, like a shill bid.  You can find the old ad on yachtworld, and also a video ad on YT with just a couple of minutes of googling.  It looks like his description of what he did with the boat is accurate:  Bought it a few years ago in Grenada, brought it home and sailed it while he worked on it  (sailed it in a couple of Cape to Cape races). S/V Hobo Tiempo.

I'm just wondering if the boat was super run-down or damaged when he bought it. Mentions rot around windows...

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Any time you feel hard done by over your moorage rates, consider this.

Moorage at Quayside marina - $900 (vancouver bc)

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length overall (LOA): 30

propulsion type: sail

Boat slip available for long-term lease at Quayside Marina.

https://vancouver.craigslist.org/van/boa/d/vancouver-moorage-at-quayside-marina/7087942183.html

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1 hour ago, lamorak said:

Here's a beauty - https://greenville.craigslist.org/boa/d/mauldin-custom-built-kayak-sailboat/7066081459.html

"It's super easy.  I had never sailed before building this project"

Do we give this gentleman a “10” for ingenuity or a “1” for chicanery?

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On 3/5/2020 at 7:07 PM, Santana20AE said:

Do we give this gentleman a “10” for ingenuity or a “1” for chicanery?

that guy has been watching too many Watertribe YouTube videos and made his own on the cheap

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3 hours ago, Pipe Dream said:

Something from our erstwhile friend of the Comox mud flats....

https://www.boatsales.com.au/boats/details/2019-Custom-STEEL-YACHT/SSE-AD-6572563 

https://tinyurl.com/swain26

 

 

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Ah yes...the Wizard of the Mud Flats strikes again!

 

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4 hours ago, Pipe Dream said:

Something from our erstwhile friend of the Comox mud flats....

https://www.boatsales.com.au/boats/details/2019-Custom-STEEL-YACHT/SSE-AD-6572563 

https://tinyurl.com/swain26

 

 

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The application seems to have deviated somewhat from what the designer has drawn.  

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So BS is still finding suckers.

Think that bow roller will be able to handle the strain of a 26'?

Those protractor chainplates are an interesting touch.

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1 hour ago, SloopJonB said:

That's what I was thinking - seems to have been pretty skillfully built.

Are those strut things going to stay do you suppose?

I was mildly amused to see that none of the struts go to anything more than hull skin. Nice point loading, if they are going to stay.

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21 minutes ago, Ishmael said:
1 hour ago, SloopJonB said:

That's what I was thinking - seems to have been pretty skillfully built.

Are those strut things going to stay do you suppose?

I was mildly amused to see that none of the struts go to anything more than hull skin. Nice point loading, if they are going to stay.

I bet that is a little structural detail that Brent did not design, looks like they may have been put in to hold the chine in place while the sides were bent upwards into shape.

But I'm sure the answer is, "Steel B strong!!" and it probably is strong enough to take that point load but those struts are going to be PITA to build a cabin around.

I'd be more worried about the rust dribbling out the back of the cockpit, down the transom.

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2 hours ago, SloopJonB said:

That's what I was thinking - seems to have been pretty skillfully built.

Are those strut things going to stay do you suppose?

There's something not right about that hull shape, even for a Swain boat. And I'm not talking about the excrescence on the top.

Shame to see perfectly good material end up like that but if the owner thinks they'll get anything at all for that - they're dreaming.

Of course it is in Queensland so who knows - the owner only needs to find *one* sucker...

FKT

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8 hours ago, Fah Kiew Tu said:
13 hours ago, sculpin said:

Doesn't even look 85% done!

-25% IMO.

Oh come on, the hull and the deck are finished... almost.

Isn't that a boat? What d'you want, an egg in your beer?

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17 hours ago, SloopJonB said:

That's what I was thinking - seems to have been pretty skillfully built.

Are those strut things going to stay do you suppose?

The fact that they are not painted suggests they are temporary.

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9 hours ago, Steam Flyer said:

Oh come on, the hull and the deck are finished... almost.

Isn't that a boat? What d'you want, an egg in your beer?

FB- Doug

 

What about the time to get the plasma cutter out, disassemble it and cart it off to the metal recyclers?

I wouldn't take that for free even if delivery to my place was included.

FKT

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25 minutes ago, Fah Kiew Tu said:

What about the time to get the plasma cutter out, disassemble it and cart it off to the metal recyclers?

I wouldn't take that for free even if delivery to my place was included.

FKT

Me neither, for many reasons.

At least steel is biodegradable

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12 hours ago, Steam Flyer said:

Oh come on, the hull and the deck are finished... almost.

Isn't that a boat? What d'you want, an egg in your beer?

FB- Doug

 

Hah! Haven't heard that expression in a dog's age.

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On 3/5/2020 at 2:48 PM, SloopJonB said:

Any time you feel hard done by over your moorage rates, consider this.

Moorage at Quayside marina - $900 (vancouver bc)

1
length overall (LOA): 30

propulsion type: sail

Boat slip available for long-term lease at Quayside Marina.

https://vancouver.craigslist.org/van/boa/d/vancouver-moorage-at-quayside-marina/7087942183.html

 

That place is not a marina in the commonly understood sense. The berths are strata-title, and were sold for something over a million bucks. Back when it was built, a friend tried to convince me we should buy one as an investment. Glad I declined. Sounds like one investor is trying to meet their mortgage payments. 

Does anybody know: Is this a common way to finance and build a marina in other parts of the world?

There are some pretty expensive boats sitting there, and I mean sitting. One of them is Hotei, which gets passed around among Vancouver billionaires like a joint at a frosh party.

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41 minutes ago, andykane said:

I've also never seen a wooden roll top desk/companionway. That's almost cool in a very weird an impractical way.

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Wonder where it goes when the real sliders go in?

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