Bugsy 699 Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 14 hours ago, SloopJonB said: My sister was a movie aficionado and she told me once that "Eddie" was always a little loser in the movies - or a dog. In "Rocky Horror Picture Show" Meatloaf = Eddie. He is cool - until he dies early. I don't think that is a spoiler. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SloopJonB 12,578 Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 I'm surprised she missed that - she was a huge fan of Mr. Loaf. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bugsy 699 Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 Which of course reminds me of one of my favourite Eddie-from-the-movies quotes: "This is our dog, Snot. He's got a bit of a sinus problem." (Sorry for the drift.) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SloopJonB 12,578 Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 My favourite cousin Eddie from the Lampoon movies was the bit about the plate in his head. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Diarmuid 1,348 Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 On 6/12/2020 at 1:36 PM, Bugsy said: In "Rocky Horror Picture Show" Meatloaf = Eddie. He is cool - until he dies early. "It was a mercy killing." Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PaulinVictoria 101 Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 https://victoria.craigslist.org/boa/d/victoria-vintage-classic-sailboat/7142563171.html Vintage, classic. Not two words I've ever heard when used to describe a Reinell. Also not seen a skylight on a sailing boat before. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ishmael 10,578 Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 14 minutes ago, PaulinVictoria said: https://victoria.craigslist.org/boa/d/victoria-vintage-classic-sailboat/7142563171.html Vintage, classic. Not two words I've ever heard when used to describe a Reinell. Also not seen a skylight on a sailing boat before. The front door is quite...different. Nicely done, but why? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gabe_nyc 23 Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 Cool Kayak ! A little disappointed that it’s not listed as “Kool Kayak” but pretty sure it belongs here (:-) https://scranton.craigslist.org/boa/d/thompson-cool-kayak/7122150487.html Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NaClH20 187 Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 6 hours ago, Gabe_nyc said: Cool Kayak ! A little disappointed that it’s not listed as “Kool Kayak” but pretty sure it belongs here (:-) https://scranton.craigslist.org/boa/d/thompson-cool-kayak/7122150487.html Oh, for a clearer picture of the rig! So many questions.... It seems the sails are furled on the bottom yard, and hoist up? They seem to be set on aft side of the mast, and so will press against it when raised? Is that pipe insulation taped to the mast to prevent chafe? What kind of control lines are there, and where to they lead. Is there any kind of fin besides that rudder, so as to do anything other than sail dead downwind? That lower sail seems to be perfectly at head height, so how in the world do you see where you’re going? What, exactly, in the blue blazes were you sailing for 30 years that would make this thing seem like a good idea? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bugsy 699 Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 Well, every kid that I knew that grew up around camps and canoes at some point turned a canoe into a sailboat. Often using sticks, old pieces of rope and a tarp. With a good wind you could either have a fast down wind run, watch the rig collapse or get thrown into the water (or all of the above). This is just the 'adult' version of that. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bull City 2,583 Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 7 hours ago, Ishmael said: The front door is quite...different. Nicely done, but why? It's a live aboard. That's why. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bull City 2,583 Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 7 hours ago, Gabe_nyc said: Cool Kayak ! A little disappointed that it’s not listed as “Kool Kayak” but pretty sure it belongs here (:-) https://scranton.craigslist.org/boa/d/thompson-cool-kayak/7122150487.html " i am very knowledgeable about this rig because i rigged it myself. (been sailing over 30 years) you wiull have fun with this oat." I'm on my way with my check book. Anyone know a surveyor in Scranton? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SemiSalt 282 Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 On 5/20/2020 at 9:59 AM, NaClH20 said: Sorry; I didn’t necessarily intend my comments to come across as praise (this is a mocking thread, after all). It is pretty well done, but the seller appears to be trying to recoup some of the (considerable, probably) conversion expenses while failing to understand the difference between cost and value. I don’t particularly get the draw of converting old lifeboats to private use, even considering that initial acquisition would be relatively cheap. I had a career at sea, and spent a bit of time floating around in them. They suck. They’re intended to get the maximum number of people afloat and away from a ship, once, and that’s it. They fail in every other aspect of being a boat, such as comfort, speed, aesthetics, mechanical durability, etc. Sea story: I did an internship on a liquified natural gas tanker. It was a ball-type (as opposed to later membrane types) and was essentially triple-hulled. It had an inner and outer hull (ballast tanks in between) and then five separate foam-insulated aluminum spheres. We had to do a lifeboat still once a quarter that involved lowering, launching, manning, operating, and recovery (the last being the most dangerous, as davit launched lifeboats are not designed to be recovered). The cargo engineer hated these drills, as he got seasick on small boats even in a flat calm. His argument was that the ship could break up into five separate pieces and still remain afloat, and he would be safer clinging to one of those pieces than bobbing around in a little open lifeboat. Hard to argue, as subsequent events in the El Faro proved. I think there may be confusion between the concept of lifeboat and that of liberty launch. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ishmael 10,578 Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 3 hours ago, NaClH20 said: Oh, for a clearer picture of the rig! So many questions.... It seems the sails are furled on the bottom yard, and hoist up? They seem to be set on aft side of the mast, and so will press against it when raised? Is that pipe insulation taped to the mast to prevent chafe? What kind of control lines are there, and where to they lead. Is there any kind of fin besides that rudder, so as to do anything other than sail dead downwind? That lower sail seems to be perfectly at head height, so how in the world do you see where you’re going? What, exactly, in the blue blazes were you sailing for 30 years that would make this thing seem like a good idea? It looks like the sails are around each yard and hoist up, so you can see underneath. Overall, looks like way too much stuff to deal with in a kayak. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Steam Flyer 8,412 Posted June 16, 2020 Share Posted June 16, 2020 4 hours ago, NaClH20 said: Oh, for a clearer picture of the rig! So many questions.... It seems the sails are furled on the bottom yard, and hoist up? They seem to be set on aft side of the mast, and so will press against it when raised? Is that pipe insulation taped to the mast to prevent chafe? What kind of control lines are there, and where to they lead. Is there any kind of fin besides that rudder, so as to do anything other than sail dead downwind? That lower sail seems to be perfectly at head height, so how in the world do you see where you’re going? What, exactly, in the blue blazes were you sailing for 30 years that would make this thing seem like a good idea? Read too many Aubrey/Maturin books. FB- Doug 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Orion Jim 128 Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 19 hours ago, Gabe_nyc said: Cool Kayak ! A little disappointed that it’s not listed as “Kool Kayak” but pretty sure it belongs here (:-) https://scranton.craigslist.org/boa/d/thompson-cool-kayak/7122150487.html If the office waste basket comes with it I’m in..... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Monkey Butler 104 Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 On 6/16/2020 at 1:26 AM, Ishmael said: The front door is quite...different. Nicely done, but why? Uh, because... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LakeBoy 111 Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 https://indianapolis.craigslist.org/boa/d/marion-classic-wooden-sailboat/7142692266.html Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ishmael 10,578 Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 43 minutes ago, LakeBoy said: https://indianapolis.craigslist.org/boa/d/marion-classic-wooden-sailboat/7142692266.html That's a nice trailer for $650, and it comes with a load of firewood. Sweet! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
USA 007 160 Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 5 minutes ago, Ishmael said: That's a nice trailer for $650, and it comes with a load of firewood. Sweet! Viking funeral starter kit 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bull City 2,583 Posted June 17, 2020 Share Posted June 17, 2020 2 hours ago, LakeBoy said: https://indianapolis.craigslist.org/boa/d/marion-classic-wooden-sailboat/7142692266.html It's hard to say what kind of condition it's in, but has very nice lines. It may be a good deal. Then again, maybe not. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Blue Crab 2,448 Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 On 6/17/2020 at 3:03 PM, Ishmael said: That's a nice trailer for $650, and it comes with a load of firewood. Sweet! And all the lead sinkers you'd care to make. Think what a beauty she was as a debutante. A zillion years ago I was assigned to destroy a similar boat with a chainsaw. I did it but it haunts me still. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SloopJonB 12,578 Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 2 hours ago, Blue Crab said: A zillion years ago I was assigned to destroy a similar boat with a chainsaw. I did it but it haunts me still. That makes you a good human being. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
climenuts 240 Posted June 18, 2020 Share Posted June 18, 2020 On 6/8/2020 at 9:06 AM, AnotherSailor said: It seems these fell of a truck: https://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/boa/d/lakeport-new-mercury-outboards/7137887508.html Any 2-smokes in there? Mine's getting tired. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Therapy 11 Posted June 19, 2020 Share Posted June 19, 2020 On 6/16/2020 at 11:28 AM, Ishmael said: It looks like the sails are around each yard and hoist up, so you can see underneath. Overall, looks like way too much stuff to deal with in a kayak. Original square rig roller furling. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hukilau 170 Posted June 19, 2020 Share Posted June 19, 2020 39 minutes ago, Therapy said: Original square rig roller furling. thought I was looking at Maltese Falcon there for a second. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
[email protected] 126 Posted June 19, 2020 Share Posted June 19, 2020 https://miami.craigslist.org/brw/boa/d/fort-lauderdale-free-sailboat/7143965536.html Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Santanasailor 640 Posted June 19, 2020 Share Posted June 19, 2020 On 6/17/2020 at 4:23 PM, Bull City said: It's hard to say what kind of condition it's in, but has very nice lines. It may be a good deal. Then again, maybe not. Very hard to say. I think I would budget the cost of a new build, first rate in every way, and then decide if the older hull was worth it. But then again, many of the older boats required such an extensive rebuild that only a few minor pieces of the original craft were left. A new boat altogether using the lines of the older craft. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ajax 2,977 Posted June 19, 2020 Share Posted June 19, 2020 12 hours ago, MikeR80 said: https://miami.craigslist.org/brw/boa/d/fort-lauderdale-free-sailboat/7143965536.html Old Columbia. Probably solid glass throughout. If the interior isn't totally trashed you could inspect the rigging and sail it away. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Steam Flyer 8,412 Posted June 19, 2020 Share Posted June 19, 2020 13 minutes ago, Ajax said: 12 hours ago, MikeR80 said: https://miami.craigslist.org/brw/boa/d/fort-lauderdale-free-sailboat/7143965536.html Old Columbia. Probably solid glass throughout. If the interior isn't totally trashed you could inspect the rigging and sail it away. Yep, not a bad-sailing boat either even the shoal keel. Whaddaya wanna bet that the interior is not just trashed, but is the equivalent of a toxic waste site? Engine? Hah!! FB- Doug Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SloopJonB 12,578 Posted June 19, 2020 Share Posted June 19, 2020 1 hour ago, Ajax said: Old Columbia. Probably solid glass throughout. If the interior isn't totally trashed you could inspect the rigging and sail it away. The interior in those things is all glass mouldings with some teak trim - I had a 43. The biggest problem with Columbias of that era is the keel fastening - steel studs through steel channel into an iron keel. The upside of it is that it's easy to replace. The dead power is probably a 4-107 on a Walters V-Drive. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ajax 2,977 Posted June 19, 2020 Share Posted June 19, 2020 Ah, right. I remember some photos that I think you posted. And "ick" on the V-drive. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bull City 2,583 Posted June 19, 2020 Share Posted June 19, 2020 The Tripp Columbia's with the flush deck were popular way back. I always wondered if they were dark down below, and whether the ventilation was good. It reminds me the Lecomte Medalist 33, another Tripp design. I always liked them. The Columbia seems to have much more freeboard. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ajax 2,977 Posted June 19, 2020 Share Posted June 19, 2020 I would have installed deck prisms like on the old ships, to get some light down below. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chester 1,250 Posted June 19, 2020 Share Posted June 19, 2020 1 hour ago, Bull City said: The Tripp Columbia's with the flush deck were popular way back. I always wondered if they were dark down below, and whether the ventilation was good. It reminds me the Lecomte Medalist 33, another Tripp design. I always liked them. The Columbia seems to have much more freeboard. You and Me both BC...the LeCompte is beautiful to me. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NaClH20 187 Posted June 19, 2020 Share Posted June 19, 2020 $100k seems a wee steep for any 19’ boat, even one that is a rare collector item in pristine condition. Which this isn’t. https://maine.craigslist.org/boa/d/harrison-david-carter-maine-ski-hall-of/7142606616.html Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bull City 2,583 Posted June 19, 2020 Share Posted June 19, 2020 27 minutes ago, NaClH20 said: $100k seems a wee steep for any 19’ boat, even one that is a rare collector item in pristine condition. Which this isn’t. https://maine.craigslist.org/boa/d/harrison-david-carter-maine-ski-hall-of/7142606616.html That is really absurd. The boat doesn't look particularly nice or well built. They "were told" that David Carter built it - uhm... so what? You could buy a much nicer wooden boat for half of that. Ridiculous. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Commercial Boater 126 Posted June 19, 2020 Share Posted June 19, 2020 1 hour ago, NaClH20 said: $100k seems a wee steep for any 19’ boat, even one that is a rare collector item in pristine condition. Which this isn’t. https://maine.craigslist.org/boa/d/harrison-david-carter-maine-ski-hall-of/7142606616.html Maybe they accidentally added two (or three) zeroes on the price? I'm not a Mainer, but is the Ski Hall of Fame really such a big deal? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Steam Flyer 8,412 Posted June 19, 2020 Share Posted June 19, 2020 3 hours ago, chester said: 4 hours ago, Bull City said: You and Me both BC...the LeCompte is beautiful to me. Moi aussi.... take the same general aesthetic, the same nearly-flush deck & bubble cabin, you tweak the proportions a little.... et voila, the boat goes from mundane like Ford/Chevy to lovely, oui? FB- Doug Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SloopJonB 12,578 Posted June 19, 2020 Share Posted June 19, 2020 4 hours ago, Ajax said: I would have installed deck prisms like on the old ships, to get some light down below. They had huge plexi hatches - my 43 was very bright below. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mathystuff 453 Posted June 20, 2020 Share Posted June 20, 2020 14 hours ago, NaClH20 said: $100k seems a wee steep for any 19’ boat, even one that is a rare collector item in pristine condition. Which this isn’t. https://maine.craigslist.org/boa/d/harrison-david-carter-maine-ski-hall-of/7142606616.html "condition: excellent" Do they have eyes? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bull City 2,583 Posted June 20, 2020 Share Posted June 20, 2020 15 hours ago, Steam Flyer said: Moi aussi.... take the same general aesthetic, the same nearly-flush deck & bubble cabin, you tweak the proportions a little.... et voila, the boat goes from mundane like Ford/Chevy to lovely, oui? FB- Doug Mais oui! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Steam Flyer 8,412 Posted June 20, 2020 Share Posted June 20, 2020 3 hours ago, mathystuff said: "condition: excellent" Do they have eyes? Ha They didn't say it was, like, CLEAN or something I can totally see the logic of this ad. If you don't ask, you don't get. - DSK Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Therapy 11 Posted June 20, 2020 Share Posted June 20, 2020 "preserved" in a garage. Well put. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Windward 673 Posted June 20, 2020 Share Posted June 20, 2020 I smell an insurance claim in the future here. 100k is going to look funny on the report when accompanied with photo documentation. Craigslist post and all. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Diarmuid 1,348 Posted June 20, 2020 Share Posted June 20, 2020 One-of-a-kind gokart built by a member of the Curling Hall of Fame: what's it worth??? As much as a cardigan sweater personally knitted by the cousin of jazz great Wes Montgomery??? One can stretch association just so far before it snaps. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Steam Flyer 8,412 Posted June 20, 2020 Share Posted June 20, 2020 3 hours ago, Diarmuid said: One-of-a-kind gokart built by a member of the Curling Hall of Fame: what's it worth??? As much as a cardigan sweater personally knitted by the cousin of jazz great Wes Montgomery??? One can stretch association just so far before it snaps. A loose-leaf copy of 'Lord of the Rings" hand written by Lou Gehrig's neighbor's grandson? An historic quilt sewn of dresses that were Woolworth copies of Jackie Kennedy's? This could be a fun game. I think you're ahead on points but I need another beer - DSK 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ishmael 10,578 Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 A pair of large pants worn by Donald Sutherland in a movie nobody ever heard of? I actually owned those for a while. He didn't want them back. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NaClH20 187 Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 I live in Maine and have most of my life. I had to google David Carter (and Maine Ski Hall of Fame, for that matter), as I had never heard of him. Turns out he was the owner/operator of a somewhat obscure but well regarded cross country ski center near Skowhegan (had to google that, too, even though I’m an active skier), and had competed professionally for a bit. By all accounts a decent fella, and influential in his small corner of the world. So, I’d say it’s about worth a meal made in a kitchen that Caesar Cardini is said to have visited 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Monkey Butler 104 Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 11 hours ago, NaClH20 said: I live in Maine and have most of my life. I had to google David Carter (and Maine Ski Hall of Fame, for that matter), as I had never heard of him. Turns out he was the owner/operator of a somewhat obscure but well regarded cross country ski center near Skowhegan (had to google that, too, even though I’m an active skier), and had competed professionally for a bit. By all accounts a decent fella, and influential in his small corner of the world. So, I’d say it’s about worth a meal made in a kitchen that Caesar Cardini is said to have visited Yeah, it's not like he won the Claudine Longet Invitational or something. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SloopJonB 12,578 Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 2 hours ago, Monkey Butler said: Yeah, it's not like he won the Claudine Longet Invitational or something. Like War Games - the only way to win is not to play. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Diarmuid 1,348 Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 3 hours ago, Monkey Butler said: Yeah, it's not like he won the Claudine Longet Invitational or something. "One bullet hole -- above the waterline." Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Windward 673 Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 13 minutes ago, Diarmuid said: "One bullet hole -- above the waterline." A cannon ball hole below the waterline in a ship with a cargo of rice. From a nautical story (fiction) 10 points for the first guess at the book series when this event occurred. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
StoMo 1 Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 Hornblower methinks. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Steam Flyer 8,412 Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 35 minutes ago, StoMo said: 1 hour ago, Windward said: 1 hour ago, Diarmuid said: "One bullet hole -- above the waterline." A cannon ball hole below the waterline in a ship with a cargo of rice. From a nautical story (fiction) 10 points for the first guess at the book series when this event occurred. Hornblower methinks. Yep, Mr. Midshipman Hornblower IIRC FB- Doug Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SloopJonB 12,578 Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 That was the first "prize" that Hornblower lost. The swelling rice blew the ship open. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
toddster 922 Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 Sorta happened in Portland Harbor a few years back - somehow they tipped a stack of containers full of lentils into the water. By the time they could get divers in to hook up lines to them, some had burst open. Worlds biggest bowl of soup... But no cannon fire, as far as I know. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Diarmuid 1,348 Posted June 21, 2020 Share Posted June 21, 2020 1 hour ago, toddster said: Sorta happened in Portland Harbor a few years back - somehow they tipped a stack of containers full of lentils into the water. By the time they could get divers in to hook up lines to them, some had burst open. Worlds biggest bowl of soup... But no cannon fire, as far as I know. Island of the Daals? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Windward 673 Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 Ok... So what one of you lot posted this? https://bellingham.craigslist.org/boa/d/bellingham-project-boat/7145984660.html Project boat - $3000 (Bellingham) Project boat with a lot of potential! YES, this 21ft boat is a bow rider! YES, this boat is still available! YES, I can send more pictures! YES, I will accept a cash offer for one third the asking price because cash is much better than what is usually used to purchase a boat! YES, let’s negotiate via email sight unseen! YES, I do have a title for the trailer 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Windward 673 Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 10 hours ago, StoMo said: Hornblower methinks. Too easy... 10 Points to Ravenclaw. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AnotherSailor 450 Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 14 hours ago, Windward said: Ok... So what one of you lot posted this? https://bellingham.craigslist.org/boa/d/bellingham-project-boat/7145984660.html Project boat - $3000 (Bellingham) Project boat with a lot of potential! YES, this 21ft boat is a bow rider! YES, this boat is still available! YES, I can send more pictures! YES, I will accept a cash offer for one third the asking price because cash is much better than what is usually used to purchase a boat! YES, let’s negotiate via email sight unseen! YES, I do have a title for the trailer Some of these should definitely go to a new thread: self-mocking craigslist ads. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
herdingbats 11 Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 Umm, how/why the hell did someone even do that to that boat? It's like (cartoon version of) an industrial laser accident! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Autonomous 1,233 Posted June 22, 2020 Share Posted June 22, 2020 I was in till I realized the boat is a 19.5', not 21'. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AnotherSailor 450 Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 Who wants to make $200 to teach this person how to sail ... in a day. https://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/boa/d/sausalito-need-someone-to-teach-me-to/7147129791.html Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Autonomous 1,233 Posted June 24, 2020 Share Posted June 24, 2020 If the guy can understand basic vectors and figure out how to spot the thin water on a chart it could be fun. Or not. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Marcjsmith 1,006 Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 20 hours ago, Autonomous said: If the guy can understand basic vectors and figure out how to spot the thin water on a chart it could be fun. Or not. all I saw in the ad was that he/she/it needed to learn how to sail. Didn't say squat about navigation. just head out to the deep water and tool around for a few hours, pocket 2 benjamins, head home and take the wife out for dinner. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AnotherSailor 450 Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 You all are so optimistic ... I imagine showing up at the boat, meeting some 25 year old dude glued to his cell phone and an attention span of less than 10 seconds, noticing suspect standing rigging, and heavy growth on the bottom. You decide to teach him quickly and get it over with before the winds pick up, but of course the damn boat hardly moves with all the growth and by 2 pm you are still floating at Angel Island where the winds are now gusting 25-30 knots. After losing the rig and the dude's cellphone, being towed back (and a big bill - of course he did not have tow insurance, he has a new outboard!), he is not willing nor able to "venmo" you the $200 and that is the end of that. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Steam Flyer 8,412 Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 3 hours ago, AnotherSailor said: You all are so optimistic ... I imagine showing up at the boat, meeting some 25 year old dude glued to his cell phone and an attention span of less than 10 seconds, noticing suspect standing rigging, and heavy growth on the bottom. You decide to teach him quickly and get it over with before the winds pick up, but of course the damn boat hardly moves with all the growth and by 2 pm you are still floating at Angel Island where the winds are now gusting 25-30 knots. After losing the rig and the dude's cellphone, being towed back (and a big bill - of course he did not have tow insurance, he has a new outboard!), he is not willing nor able to "venmo" you the $200 and that is the end of that. Oh, it could be a lot worse. But let's look at the bright side.... he might be a nice guy who is genuinely interested. I would not be inclined to do this at all, and I'd be kind of suspicious of any old sailor who was. OTOH, thru the junior sailing program I help, I have been involved in giving "lessons" to adults who have a boat of their own and some experience. There are a lot of big big pitfalls, including not getting paid, somebody getting hurt, the boat getting damaged.... or the boat already being damaged and the owner not knowing it and blaming you for bringing it to his/her attention (this happened to me). I always start with the basics, with the boat as secure as it can be.... still on the trailer, in my case(s), or in it's slip. Do a walk-around first, then start seeing how familiar the student is with basic parts & terms. One of the adults I was teaching was deeply offended by this, for example. They had a small centerboard boat and I insisted on a capsize drill which was almost a deal-breaker especially after the parking lot unpleasantness. But they had never capsized and imagined it to be a super hassle and dangerous, whereas I said "It's only dangerous if you don't know how" and we went thru a fairly standard capsize drill... then I threw some problem scenarios at them and they really got into it. At the end, a big success. It would probably be better to invite such a person to come as crew on YOUR boat one time, perhaps in a race, to see how big of a dickhead he is, before doing an "on my boat" lesson. FB- Doug Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Steam Flyer 8,412 Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 This is borderline "Another Craigslist WTF?" https://nh.craigslist.org/boa/d/wilmot-rare-1930s-handcraft-galvanized/7145694317.html Rare 1930’s Handcraft Galvanized Steel Sailboat - $550 It really does look like galvanized steel. Why? The hull doesn't look really terrible in shape, but galvanized steel???????? Back in the old days, was there some kind of dinghy demolition derby we don't know about? FB- Doug Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Autonomous 1,233 Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 On the positive side it is nicer than anything Brent Swain ever built. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ishmael 10,578 Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 1 hour ago, Autonomous said: On the positive side it is nicer than anything Brent Swain ever built. And has a 90-year head start on longevity. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AnotherSailor 450 Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 2 hours ago, Steam Flyer said: Oh, it could be a lot worse. But let's look at the bright side.... he might be a nice guy who is genuinely interested. I would not be inclined to do this at all, and I'd be kind of suspicious of any old sailor who was. OTOH, thru the junior sailing program I help, I have been involved in giving "lessons" to adults who have a boat of their own and some experience. There are a lot of big big pitfalls, including not getting paid, somebody getting hurt, the boat getting damaged.... or the boat already being damaged and the owner not knowing it and blaming you for bringing it to his/her attention (this happened to me). I always start with the basics, with the boat as secure as it can be.... still on the trailer, in my case(s), or in it's slip. Do a walk-around first, then start seeing how familiar the student is with basic parts & terms. One of the adults I was teaching was deeply offended by this, for example. They had a small centerboard boat and I insisted on a capsize drill which was almost a deal-breaker especially after the parking lot unpleasantness. But they had never capsized and imagined it to be a super hassle and dangerous, whereas I said "It's only dangerous if you don't know how" and we went thru a fairly standard capsize drill... then I threw some problem scenarios at them and they really got into it. At the end, a big success. It would probably be better to invite such a person to come as crew on YOUR boat one time, perhaps in a race, to see how big of a dickhead he is, before doing an "on my boat" lesson. FB- Doug Yeah, a lot worse. I would not even want to start to think about it. Anyway, good for you and sailing! Getting people on the water and educating them to do so safely is not always easy. It is funny how everyone is accustomed to the very unlikely scenarios we all have to go through when the airplane leaves the gate. It is 100% certain that you will have to solve some problems when you are sailing! Something breaks, the wind is blowing harder than expected, from a different direction than expected, you encounter other boats. Moreover you will have to recognize potential problems before they become actual ones... Of course, we don't know anything about this person but what gets me here is that someone buys a sailboat BEFORE learning how to sail and assumes they can pick it up in an afternoon. This is why I assume it is some 25 year old who is part of a generation that has been always told they can do anything they set their mind to. It is always the same: how hard can this sailing thing be after all. Ok, I am not bashing all millenials, but there is a tendency among many. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paps49 410 Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 I love the final line. Bring your tool box........ I think something hefty enough to remove a skin fitting would be all you'd need. https://yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/steel-31-ft-round-bilge-yacht-needs-work-sydney/248999 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Autonomous 1,233 Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 On the positive side it is nicer than anything Brent Swain ever built. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ajax 2,977 Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 4 hours ago, paps49 said: I love the final line. Bring your tool box........ I think something hefty enough to remove a skin fitting would be all you'd need. https://yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/steel-31-ft-round-bilge-yacht-needs-work-sydney/248999 "I feel like I need a tetanus shot just from looking at her, sir." 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hukilau 170 Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 11 hours ago, Ishmael said: And has a 90-year head start on longevity. "Still holds water". High praise for a yacht, indeed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hukilau 170 Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 7 hours ago, paps49 said: I love the final line. Bring your tool box........ I think something hefty enough to remove a skin fitting would be all you'd need. https://yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/steel-31-ft-round-bilge-yacht-needs-work-sydney/248999 how much for just the TV? 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AnotherSailor 450 Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 14 hours ago, Steam Flyer said: This is borderline "Another Craigslist WTF?" https://nh.craigslist.org/boa/d/wilmot-rare-1930s-handcraft-galvanized/7145694317.html Rare 1930’s Handcraft Galvanized Steel Sailboat - $550 It really does look like galvanized steel. Why? The hull doesn't look really terrible in shape, but galvanized steel???????? Back in the old days, was there some kind of dinghy demolition derby we don't know about? FB- Doug Yes, some kind of experiment with materials? Quite frankly, I think the ad is hones and this could be an interesting piece to display. Not for me, but who knows a restaurant or bar? I would certainly check it out if I saw it... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fah Kiew Tu 3,233 Posted June 27, 2020 Share Posted June 27, 2020 19 hours ago, AnotherSailor said: Of course, we don't know anything about this person but what gets me here is that someone buys a sailboat BEFORE learning how to sail and assumes they can pick it up in an afternoon. I really can't understand what your problem with this approach is. FKT 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
zenmasterfred 565 Posted June 27, 2020 Share Posted June 27, 2020 On 6/21/2020 at 9:25 PM, Windward said: Ok... So what one of you lot posted this? https://bellingham.craigslist.org/boa/d/bellingham-project-boat/7145984660.html Project boat - $3000 (Bellingham) Project boat with a lot of potential! YES, this 21ft boat is a bow rider! YES, this boat is still available! YES, I can send more pictures! YES, I will accept a cash offer for one third the asking price because cash is much better than what is usually used to purchase a boat! YES, let’s negotiate via email sight unseen! YES, I do have a title for the trailer At least the bow didn't fall off! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bmiller 1,146 Posted June 27, 2020 Share Posted June 27, 2020 On 6/25/2020 at 7:29 PM, Steam Flyer said: This is borderline "Another Craigslist WTF?" https://nh.craigslist.org/boa/d/wilmot-rare-1930s-handcraft-galvanized/7145694317.html Rare 1930’s Handcraft Galvanized Steel Sailboat - $550 It really does look like galvanized steel. Why? The hull doesn't look really terrible in shape, but galvanized steel???????? Back in the old days, was there some kind of dinghy demolition derby we don't know about? FB- Doug That's the kind of item somebody somewhere would pay a ridiculous amount of money for. Put that in a boutique shop in Aspen and add a zero, it'll sell. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bmiller 1,146 Posted June 27, 2020 Share Posted June 27, 2020 On 6/19/2020 at 1:49 PM, NaClH20 said: $100k seems a wee steep for any 19’ boat, even one that is a rare collector item in pristine condition. Which this isn’t. https://maine.craigslist.org/boa/d/harrison-david-carter-maine-ski-hall-of/7142606616.html Price reduced! Now only slightly overpriced at 1,200. https://maine.craigslist.org/boa/d/harrison-david-carter-maine-ski-hall-of/7142606616.html 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bmiller 1,146 Posted June 27, 2020 Share Posted June 27, 2020 Not mocking at all, just curious what this is for. Maybe used to launch the boat? https://www.sailboatlistings.com/view/86060 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Steam Flyer 8,412 Posted June 27, 2020 Share Posted June 27, 2020 45 minutes ago, bmiller said: That's the kind of item somebody somewhere would pay a ridiculous amount of money for. Put that in a boutique shop in Aspen and add a zero, it'll sell. It's kind of a neat little hull. I just don't see anybody with good sense picturing this boat in their mind and saying, "Yes, weld it up from steel an galvanize it, that's practical" Decades ago, the rec center at the Naval Air Station Jax Fla had about 5 aluminum hull Lightnings. I think they had wooden masts, but my memory may be a bit faulty. They were used to run a Navy/Marine Corps challenge regatta, as well as being almost bulletproof daysailers. The story I heard was that an air crew chief saw the design in a magazine and requisitioned the aluminum to build them..... I wonder if they're still there! FB- Doug Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SloopJonB 12,578 Posted June 27, 2020 Share Posted June 27, 2020 One of the first boats I sailed was a 14' called a Petrel - looked much like that galvanized thing but it was round bilged riveted aluminium. Not exactly pretty but it was bulletproof - hits that would crack glass just dented it and were easily bumped out with a rubber mallet. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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