Therapy 11 Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 You can almost smell the love. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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Bugsy 448 Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 I can't find the listing, but Theodore Tugboat is for sale in Halifax. Only a half-million dollars! https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/theodore-tugboat-replica-can-be-yours-for-495000-dollars-1.5652199 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jamhass 94 Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 On 7/22/2020 at 8:58 AM, Windward said: Really? If I had the contacts and the gumption that would make for a great ferry in some river in Africa or South America. Get the government to pay for it. And delivery. Clapped out or not, they would make it work somehow. Seems cheap to me, albeit I really have no idea what I'm talking about... just a couch potato perspective. I'm sure there are some Nigerian princes who would be happy to finance such a deal ... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
herdingbats 11 Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 Not craigslist, but not exactly anything else, either: https://bikerumor.com/2020/08/03/vanlife-boatlife-bikelife-zeltini-z-triton-amphibious-e-tricycle-camper-is-out-of-this-world/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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Santana20AE 211 Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 3 hours ago, herdingbats said: Not craigslist, but not exactly anything else, either: https://bikerumor.com/2020/08/03/vanlife-boatlife-bikelife-zeltini-z-triton-amphibious-e-tricycle-camper-is-out-of-this-world/ The potted plant is a deal maker (SARCASM INTENDED) for me. Just thing, one more thing I have to worry about taking care off. I suppose since the “Kitchen” is so close, I suppose I could draw some water from the “GALLEY” to keep the plant going. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SloopJonB 8,595 Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 Don't they know that the potted plants are to be stowed before casting off? I do it at the same time as I disconnect the shore power cord. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Therapy 11 Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 A windshield wiper? While you are being pelted? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ishmael 6,426 Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 3 hours ago, Therapy said: A windshield wiper? While you are being pelted? If I'm being pelted, I'm not concerned about a windshield wiper. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Diarmuid 706 Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 It takes the sunscreen and it puts it on its skin. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bmiller 773 Posted August 9, 2020 Share Posted August 9, 2020 Another "please come haul my junk away and pay me for it" https://www.sailboatlistings.com/view/87324 Wonderful Canadian classic Sparkman & Stephens Design 26 ft sailboat with oversized standing rigging and 5'-11" headroom. She can maintain control in extreme weather with her barn door rudder and skeg. This is a project boat. Has full compliment of hank on head sails. She has not seen water since 1994. likely needs engine, extensive fiberglass work, new interior etc. To move will require work to dig tires out of soil. Great boat for someone with the time, resources and shop space to return her to the sea. https://sailboatdata.com/sailboat/north-star-600 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SloopJonB 8,595 Posted August 9, 2020 Share Posted August 9, 2020 To move will require work to dig tires out of soil. "Been sitting so long it's sunk in the ground to the trailer frame" WTF didn't they store it in the barn? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ishmael 6,426 Posted August 9, 2020 Share Posted August 9, 2020 21 minutes ago, SloopJonB said: To move will require work to dig tires out of soil. "Been sitting so long it's sunk in the ground to the trailer frame" WTF didn't they store it in the barn? The barn is full of classic collectible Yugos. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Steam Flyer 5,305 Posted August 9, 2020 Share Posted August 9, 2020 22 minutes ago, SloopJonB said: To move will require work to dig tires out of soil. "Been sitting so long it's sunk in the ground to the trailer frame" WTF didn't they store it in the barn? And deprive the raccoons of a good home? FB- Doug 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ajax 2,062 Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 On 8/9/2020 at 12:17 PM, SloopJonB said: To move will require work to dig tires out of soil. "Been sitting so long it's sunk in the ground to the trailer frame" WTF didn't they store it in the barn? It was dismantled to make a rudder for the boat. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SemiSalt 215 Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 On 8/9/2020 at 7:18 AM, bmiller said: Another "please come haul my junk away and pay me for it" https://www.sailboatlistings.com/view/87324 Wonderful Canadian classic Sparkman & Stephens Design 26 ft sailboat with oversized standing rigging and 5'-11" headroom. She can maintain control in extreme weather with her barn door rudder and skeg. This is a project boat. Has full compliment of hank on head sails. She has not seen water since 1994. likely needs engine, extensive fiberglass work, new interior etc. To move will require work to dig tires out of soil. Great boat for someone with the time, resources and shop space to return her to the sea. https://sailboatdata.com/sailboat/north-star-600 Is that the design that started out as a Quarter Tonner? It seemed to me at the time that the boats got bigger more than they got faster, resulting in a boat slow for its size. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AnotherSailor 260 Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 On 8/7/2020 at 11:51 AM, herdingbats said: The AC trickle down effect never ends. Actually I think it is kind of cool, although ugly Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SloopJonB 8,595 Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 1 hour ago, SemiSalt said: Is that the design that started out as a Quarter Tonner? It seemed to me at the time that the boats got bigger more than they got faster, resulting in a boat slow for its size. It was a cruised up version of the North Star 500 QT. They raised the sheer a bunch to get headroom. PHRF in the 220's - about the same as other QT's of the era. They were fast back then. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Steam Flyer 5,305 Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 Here's another one for the "Pay Me To Haul This Junk Outta My Yard" archives https://ocala.craigslist.org/boa/d/inverness-one-sailboat-for-sale/7171984322.html One sailboat for sale. - $3000 (Inverness) Sat there for so long it's not only got a garden growing in it, the stands rotted and fell over. And it's pretty long way from deep water. FB- Doug Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Autonomous 379 Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 Looks tippy. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ishmael 6,426 Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 2 hours ago, Steam Flyer said: Here's another one for the "Pay Me To Haul This Junk Outta My Yard" archives https://ocala.craigslist.org/boa/d/inverness-one-sailboat-for-sale/7171984322.html One sailboat for sale. - $3000 (Inverness) Sat there for so long it's not only got a garden growing in it, the stands rotted and fell over. And it's pretty long way from deep water. FB- Doug There is no way "pretty" will have anything to do with this. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Toecutter's Ghost 114 Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 And, from GumTree, another.... Don't even include a rutter. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Steam Flyer 5,305 Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 2 hours ago, Toecutter's Ghost said: And, from GumTree, another.... Don't even include a rutter. I don't want that one, it's scratched. The firewood that's holding it up could come in handy though FB- Doug Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fah Kiew Tu 2,088 Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 2 hours ago, Toecutter's Ghost said: And, from GumTree, another.... Don't even include a rutter. I looked at the pix of that one a week back. The kindest thing to do is leave it right where it is, to return to the earth. FKT Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Toecutter's Ghost 114 Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 1 hour ago, Fah Kiew Tu said: I looked at the pix of that one a week back. The kindest thing to do is leave it right where it is, to return to the earth. FKT It's halfway there already Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Toecutter's Ghost 114 Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 1 hour ago, Steam Flyer said: I don't want that one, it's scratched. The firewood that's holding it up could come in handy though FB- Doug But the motor is good! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
d'ranger 2,749 Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 Scratched? Did anyone else picture the Black Knight from MP? Come back here and I'll bit your leg off. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AnotherSailor 260 Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 Here is another interesting marketing strategy: show what the boat actually could look like. https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/boa/d/san-jose-32-foot-columbia-sabre/7174993803.html Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hukilau 129 Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 21 hours ago, AnotherSailor said: Here is another interesting marketing strategy: show what the boat actually could look like. https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/boa/d/san-jose-32-foot-columbia-sabre/7174993803.html Looks like someone already took care of most of the sanding; wipe 'er down with some solvent and she's ready for paint! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AnotherSailor 260 Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 49 minutes ago, Hukilau said: Looks like someone already took care of most of the sanding; wipe 'er down with some solvent and she's ready for paint! Good luck! Looks like the seller has quite a collection of boats in the backyard... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Breamerly 77 Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 On 8/11/2020 at 4:42 AM, Steam Flyer said: I don't want that one, it's scratched. The firewood that's holding it up could come in handy though FB- Doug "Heavy gauge steel for Heavy weather" Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Therapy 11 Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 On 8/11/2020 at 5:25 AM, Toecutter's Ghost said: And, from GumTree, another.... Don't even include a rutter. Roller furler is the best part. Just need to point it da other way. On 8/11/2020 at 5:25 AM, Toecutter's Ghost said: On 8/11/2020 at 2:48 PM, AnotherSailor said: Here is another interesting marketing strategy: show what the boat actually could look like. https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/boa/d/san-jose-32-foot-columbia-sabre/7174993803.html Ever see your fat, ugly neighbor after "Glamour shots"? A whole lot better than after real shots and/or beer goggles. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dilligaf0220 115 Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 On 8/10/2020 at 6:31 PM, SloopJonB said: It was a cruised up version of the North Star 500 QT. They raised the sheer a bunch to get headroom. PHRF in the 220's - about the same as other QT's of the era. They were fast back then. The Northstar 26 was my Dad's first boat and he raced on a 500. At best it could be described as 'bulbous'. Fairly roomy for the day with a ton of tumblehome. Thought they were originally a MORC boat tweaked for IOR 1/4 Tonner when that became popular? There are still plenty sailing around the Great Lakes, built like tanks with a solid hull if the PO hasn't poked too many holes in the cored deck. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Marcjsmith 524 Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 On 8/11/2020 at 2:48 PM, AnotherSailor said: Here is another interesting marketing strategy: show what the boat actually could look like. https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/boa/d/san-jose-32-foot-columbia-sabre/7174993803.html before and after. the bottom pic is what it looked like when he bought it in Wisconsin and brought it to san jose. https://www.sailboatlistings.com/view/29637 i love classic lines and i'm a sucker for a project. but dayum. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AnotherSailor 260 Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 I would definitely be interested in the restored one. totally! But close to 5K for a project boat is crazy! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Breamerly 77 Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 I know it's BT not CL but. I feel like there's a new, much harder to get rid of generation of zombie boats on the horizon. A slightly smaller version of this might be approachable for the right free spirit with an ability to 'dream away' how they'll pay for maintenance, slip fees, and fuel.... https://www.boattrader.com/boat/1962-us-navy-hydrofoil-115-6998973/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=paid social&utm_campaign=bt us fb dynamic re&utm_content=dynamic retargeting us&fbclid=IwAR00wCIHWPTzfhyVil8nlwnq_YH6826q6i83NQPPyEwRB_gANZqrl7XoW1k Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Steam Flyer 5,305 Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 2 hours ago, Breamerly said: I know it's BT not CL but. I feel like there's a new, much harder to get rid of generation of zombie boats on the horizon. A slightly smaller version of this might be approachable for the right free spirit with an ability to 'dream away' how they'll pay for maintenance, slip fees, and fuel.... https://www.boattrader.com/boat/1962-us-navy-hydrofoil-115-6998973/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=paid social&utm_campaign=bt us fb dynamic re&utm_content=dynamic retargeting us&fbclid=IwAR00wCIHWPTzfhyVil8nlwnq_YH6826q6i83NQPPyEwRB_gANZqrl7XoW1k Totally worth it, just so and your friends can sit around doing bong hits on the USS HIGH POINT FB- Doug 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
See Level 748 Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 Wow, you could convert it to a foiling trawler yacht Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Diarmuid 706 Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 3 hours ago, Steam Flyer said: Totally worth it, just so and your friends can sit around doing bong hits on the USS HIGH POINT FB- Doug Friends don't let friends foil stoned. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AnotherSailor 260 Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 5 hours ago, Steam Flyer said: Totally worth it, just so and your friends can sit around doing bong hits on the USS HIGH POINT FB- Doug Is that what the word "combination" refers to? The engine has only 0 hours. I am sure it will fire straight up after sitting since 1962! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Breamerly 77 Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 25 minutes ago, AnotherSailor said: Is that what the word "combination" refers to? The engine has only 0 hours. I am sure it will fire straight up after sitting since 1962! I thought this was weird, too. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Black Sox 771 Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 10 hours ago, Breamerly said: I know it's BT not CL but. I feel like there's a new, much harder to get rid of generation of zombie boats on the horizon. A slightly smaller version of this might be approachable for the right free spirit with an ability to 'dream away' how they'll pay for maintenance, slip fees, and fuel.... https://www.boattrader.com/boat/1962-us-navy-hydrofoil-115-6998973/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=paid social&utm_campaign=bt us fb dynamic re&utm_content=dynamic retargeting us&fbclid=IwAR00wCIHWPTzfhyVil8nlwnq_YH6826q6i83NQPPyEwRB_gANZqrl7XoW1k At least it has a life raft. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Breamerly 77 Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 That vessel, not just the class, actually has a relatively detailed Wikipedia page with a few interesting details.... ... including reference to what might be a wee bit of a problem for excited dreamers salivating at the thought of water skiing behind their floating home at 48 miles per hour. Apparently the phrase "0 hours' actually means then it has no engine, because the original turbine exploded in 1982. The cost of repair was so high that it was decommissioned and sold to a private party, who never completed the restoration. Someone later took it over to turn into a floating museum. To what is unclear, since it only ever saw service as a test vessel for first the Navy, then the coast guard, both of whom evidently decided they weren't terribly interested in further experimentation. The USS Arizona it ain't. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ajax 2,062 Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 Seriously? https://annapolis.craigslist.org/bpo/d/glen-burnie-boat-toilet/7178334532.html Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chester 769 Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 16 minutes ago, Ajax said: Seriously? https://annapolis.craigslist.org/bpo/d/glen-burnie-boat-toilet/7178334532.html hey, it has the installation instructions! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ajax 2,062 Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 38 minutes ago, chester said: hey, it has the installation instructions! I've seen used toilets for sale before. The shocking part is him wanting $200 for that nasty mess. He probably used the installation instructions to wipe his ass. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chester 769 Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 1 minute ago, Ajax said: I've seen used toilets for sale before. The shocking part is him wanting $200 for that nasty mess. He probably used the installation instructions to wipe his ass. . I remember actively considering one of those for previous/boat camper applications. if i remeber correctly the toilet was mounted on top of its own 10 gallon holding tank which could be pumped or dumped. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Autonomous 379 Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 Does it come with poop or do you have to supply your own? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AnotherSailor 260 Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 3 hours ago, Autonomous said: Does it come with poop or do you have to supply your own? I would be very hesitant to open it Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mathystuff 371 Posted August 17, 2020 Share Posted August 17, 2020 5 hours ago, Ajax said: Seriously? https://annapolis.craigslist.org/bpo/d/glen-burnie-boat-toilet/7178334532.html Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ned 110 Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 Because Hawaii is the trash can of shattered nautical dreams. https://honolulu.craigslist.org/oah/boa/d/haleiwa-50-ft-aluminum-sailing-trimaran/7174370893.html Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Autonomous 379 Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 At least he admits (sort of) the structure is inadequate. Cal 20s, Santana 22s etc. have made the trip relatively unschathed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NaClH20 96 Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 Ain’t unsinkable if the foam filled amas don’t stay attached to the hull... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Steam Flyer 5,305 Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 Sometimes I wonder if I post here too much. Sometimes I wonder if I post here -enough- However, looking once again at at sailboat ads.... here is one that has earned our attention: https://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/boa/d/saint-petersburg-oday-sailboat-20ft/7181203670.html Oday sailboat 20ft - $1,750 (Gulfport) That appears to be a traffic sign from Ketchikan... is there a Ketchican Florida? But wait, it comes with a "nice" motor Well, yeah, really nice except for the tree falling on it. Anybody? FB- Doug Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Autonomous 379 Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 I've seen worse. I only see branches, not a trunk. Not much sun damage from the looks of it. It says 'sail' not sails, dunno if that means one sail??? If you were near and wanted a daysailer it might be worth a look. Trailer not mentioned. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Steam Flyer 5,305 Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 2 minutes ago, Autonomous said: I've seen worse. I only see branches, not a trunk. Not much sun damage from the looks of it. It says 'sail' not sails, dunno if that means one sail??? If you were near and wanted a daysailer it might be worth a look. Trailer not mentioned. Don't take anything for granted! It's in Florida but you're right, doesn't look to sun damaged. Maybe it was recently brought down from Ketchican Alaska? Or amybe it's ben in the shade of that tree all it's life? Florida again, I assume that the firewood is not a desirable market commodity. But it gives me thought.... if you have a tree you want removed from your yard, can you lay it across a boat and advertise the boat for sale? BTW there is another photo of the boat's name plate, it's a Mariner. FB- Doug Quote Link to post Share on other sites
alphafb552 520 Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 8 hours ago, Steam Flyer said: Sometimes I wonder if I post here too much. Sometimes I wonder if I post here -enough- However, looking once again at at sailboat ads.... here is one that has earned our attention: https://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/boa/d/saint-petersburg-oday-sailboat-20ft/7181203670.html Oday sailboat 20ft - $1,750 (Gulfport) That appears to be a traffic sign from Ketchikan... is there a Ketchican Florida? But wait, it comes with a "nice" motor Well, yeah, really nice except for the tree falling on it. Anybody? FB- Doug 'Look darling, I'm really trying to sell the boat, got an ad up and everything' 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Winston29 76 Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 On 8/10/2020 at 7:27 PM, Steam Flyer said: Here's another one for the "Pay Me To Haul This Junk Outta My Yard" archives Speaking of... Even for $300 they're asking too much. https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/boa/d/hollister-hobbie-cat/7180059251.html 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Autonomous 379 Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 Now that is a pile of trash, he is asking $475 too much. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ajax 2,062 Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 I paid $100 for a Hobie 16 with a trailer that was perfectly sailable at the time of purchase. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dilligaf0220 115 Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 Actually looks like someone did a decent job...but...damn. The horror...the horror... C&C Trawler conversion $19,250.00 Quote 1973 25 ft C&C Redline sailboat trawler conversion 2017-2018. 2017 20 HP Suzuki long shaft in excellent condition with extended warranty. Service work done at Hully Gully in London. Cruise at 6 to 10 kmph the whole day for pennies. This unique little boat is very easy to launch and recover. Tow her with V6 SUV or Half Ton. Open bow with two seats. Two bunks. Working head. Working fridge. Newer alcohol stove. Inverter. BBQ. Depth finder. Lots of storage. Woodwork in very good condition. Upholstery in excellent condition. All windows are tinted. Paint, navy blue with white deck in good condition. Boat is very clean. Surveyed last year, survey available. Trailer is steel dual axle custom made for this boat. Save thousands on dockage, sail wherever you can drive. This charming, one of a kind boat is ready to launch and enjoy. Additional photos on request. https://www.kijiji.ca/v-powerboat-motorboat/sarnia/c-c-trawler-conversion/1513081536 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chester 769 Posted August 26, 2020 Share Posted August 26, 2020 46 minutes ago, Dilligaf0220 said: Actually looks like someone did a decent job...but...damn. The horror...the horror... C&C Trawler conversion $19,250.00 https://www.kijiji.ca/v-powerboat-motorboat/sarnia/c-c-trawler-conversion/1513081536 i'm dumbfounded Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SloopJonB 8,595 Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 Horrifying but whoever did it certainly got the proportions right - I thought it was a 40' until I saw the outboard. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Autonomous 379 Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 Roll yer guts out. Puke city. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bugsy 448 Posted August 27, 2020 Share Posted August 27, 2020 I think that's clever. No, I wouldn't buy it but I kinda like that - it's a well done conversion. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hukilau 129 Posted August 29, 2020 Share Posted August 29, 2020 I'm with Autonomous; after the initial feelings of horror/admiration, my first thought was "wouldn't that boat roll like crazy?". After looking at the pictures for awhile (my favorite is the lilypad sunshade), I'm leaning more towards admiration. Very well done indeed. Why it was ever done in the first place shall remain a mystery, but the "overbuild" blends nicely with the boat's existing lines. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Black Sox 771 Posted August 29, 2020 Share Posted August 29, 2020 Nicely executed but why? I saw a paddle beside one of the “bowseats” (a new term for the nautical lexicon) and, again, why? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
toddster 485 Posted August 29, 2020 Share Posted August 29, 2020 ^That's the bow thruster. Duh. This boat has been admired here before. How could you forget it? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Breamerly 77 Posted August 29, 2020 Share Posted August 29, 2020 On 8/26/2020 at 5:29 PM, Autonomous said: Roll yer guts out. Puke city. With less weight aloft wouldn't it roll *less*? (I have no idea what I'm talking about) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Autonomous 379 Posted August 29, 2020 Share Posted August 29, 2020 It is my understanding that these conversions suffer badly without the polar inertia a mast provides. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Breamerly 77 Posted August 29, 2020 Share Posted August 29, 2020 1 minute ago, Autonomous said: It is my understanding that these conversions suffer badly without the polar inertia a mast provides. Ah yes. Just googled metacentric height* and it appears that, in laymen's terms (the only ones I understand), "masts help alot." *Good Wikipedia page Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SemiSalt 215 Posted August 29, 2020 Share Posted August 29, 2020 4 minutes ago, Autonomous said: It is my understanding that these conversions suffer badly without the polar inertia a mast provides. So, take out some ballast. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Autonomous 379 Posted August 29, 2020 Share Posted August 29, 2020 29 minutes ago, SemiSalt said: So, take out some ballast. That would only remove more polar inertia so I don't think it would help. The problem may go back to form stability and hull shape on these conversations. It would be heartbreaking to pour resources and time into such a project and it turns out to be a dismal failure. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Diarmuid 706 Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 2 hours ago, Breamerly said: With less weight aloft wouldn't it roll *less*? (I have no idea what I'm talking about) Less amplitude, but shorter period. If you've ever watched a metronome, you know that moving the weight up (toward the top of the swing arm) gives a larger swing, but a much slower one (lento, largo); move the weight down toward the pivot point, the swing is short and sharp (presto, allegro). A keel gives lots of weight but on a short arm -- very jerky and twitchy. A tall mast, even tho light, dampens the twitch. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SloopJonB 8,595 Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 Even with the mast a sailboat can roll you sick with no sail up. I usually leave the main up when motoring - much better motion. That's the reason trawlers have steadying sails. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cisco 163 Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 The Westerly Medway was one of the Conway family ... but this horror.... A fine touch is that she has the original 'westerly droop'..... https://www.yachtworld.co.uk/boats/1976/westerly-center-cockpit-ketch-3570110/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SemiSalt 215 Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 14 hours ago, Autonomous said: That would only remove more polar inertia so I don't think it would help. The problem may go back to form stability and hull shape on these conversations. It would be heartbreaking to pour resources and time into such a project and it turns out to be a dismal failure. A sailboat rolls more than a rowboat. As you say, whether removing the ballast helps depends on the hull shape. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AnotherSailor 260 Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 Ok, fess up, who of you pissed off this person: https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/boa/d/san-francisco-dazzling-rust-bucket-for/7187897983.html 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
zenmasterfred 451 Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 On 8/11/2020 at 4:45 AM, Fah Kiew Tu said: I looked at the pix of that one a week back. The kindest thing to do is leave it right where it is, to return to the earth. FKT Is that one of BS's latest??? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
zenmasterfred 451 Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 On 8/22/2020 at 5:48 AM, Winston29 said: Speaking of... Even for $300 they're asking too much. https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/boa/d/hollister-hobbie-cat/7180059251.html Yah, but the trailer is included! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Alan Crawford 280 Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 A nice one in the Hudson River valley. https://hudsonvalley.craigslist.org/boa/d/ulster-park-25-sail-boat/7171847633.html Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dilligaf0220 115 Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 On 8/29/2020 at 8:49 AM, Hukilau said: I'm with Autonomous; after the initial feelings of horror/admiration, my first thought was "wouldn't that boat roll like crazy?". After looking at the pictures for awhile (my favorite is the lilypad sunshade), I'm leaning more towards admiration. Very well done indeed. Why it was ever done in the first place shall remain a mystery, but the "overbuild" blends nicely with the boat's existing lines. Well the only place that would get wet would be inland lakes & canals, and I don't think it was build with the Great Lakes in mind. Puttering through inland canals or Northern Ontario cottage country lakes seems to be it's designed objective. Or they got it on Lake Huron ONCE after years of dreaming & building and discovered they had a turkey. But hey, $750 price drop! Oh yeah and that paddle is a Canadian regulation. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Trovão 483 Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 On 8/22/2020 at 9:48 AM, Winston29 said: Speaking of... Even for $300 they're asking too much. https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/boa/d/hollister-hobbie-cat/7180059251.html i wouldn't take even if they offered me $300... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SloopJonB 8,595 Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 Only 19K for a Buccaneer 22. But look at it this way - it's probably the nicest Bucc 22 on the planet and it's only $14.5K USD https://vancouver.craigslist.org/van/boa/d/vancouver-sailboat-for-sale/7189300698.html Quote Link to post Share on other sites
climenuts 181 Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 10 hours ago, SloopJonB said: Only 19K for a Buccaneer 22. But look at it this way - it's probably the nicest Bucc 22 on the planet and it's only $14.5K USD "Sleeping for 3-4 Adults[...]" Ok that's the believable. "[...] in comfort." HA! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Steam Flyer 5,305 Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 11 hours ago, SloopJonB said: Only 19K for a Buccaneer 22. But look at it this way - it's probably the nicest Bucc 22 on the planet and it's only $14.5K USD https://vancouver.craigslist.org/van/boa/d/vancouver-sailboat-for-sale/7189300698.html With all the boats out there that are actually nice, I can't believe anybody would accept one of these for free much less buy one. Proof that truly, the world needs to accommodate different strokes for different folks FB- Doug Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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