Ishmael 10,553 Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 That boat is in our marina. Not a bad-looking boat for a steelie. Certainly lots of room and protection from the elements. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cje 39 Posted December 18, 2021 Share Posted December 18, 2021 Also off the dock more than most. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
huey 2 988 Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 a hard dodger.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SloopJonB 12,559 Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 I think they misunderstood the concept of a center cockpit. Made me think of those vid's of bow riders leaving Haulover inlet. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Liquid 645 Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 This is the result of a condomaran layout on a monohull... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Santanasailor 639 Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 Not even sure if this is a real boat (and you are right it is not a sailing craft) but if it is real, I would be a touch concerned about the stability in a rolling seaway 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
toddster 922 Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 39 minutes ago, Santanasailor said: Not even sure if this is a real boat (and you are right it is not a sailing craft) but if it is real, I would be a touch concerned about the stability in a rolling seaway I believe that somewhere in the archive, there is a photo of that thing floating. And I can assure you that it will sail. Not under control, of course, but it will definitely go down wind. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SloopJonB 12,559 Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 When I see things like that I always wonder how someone could have the ability to make enough to buy the original boat and still be that incredibly clueless. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chester 1,245 Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 On 12/28/2021 at 7:56 AM, huey 2 said: a hard dodger.... front companionway is offset, you know where that boat is going. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
py26129 177 Posted December 31, 2021 Author Share Posted December 31, 2021 2 minutes ago, chester said: front companionway is offset, you know where that boat is going. The mast looks offset too. Must either be a perspective thing or a 21 century design principle only a few understand. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chester 1,245 Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 Just now, py26129 said: The mast looks offset too. Must either be a perspective thing or a 21 century design principle only a few understand. you're right i'm sure it's 5th mode and we are witnessing boat design revelation! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Steam Flyer 8,399 Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 1 hour ago, chester said: front companionway is offset, you know where that boat is going. It's doomed. DOOMED!! - DSK Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TwoLegged 2,238 Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 1 hour ago, py26129 said: The mast looks offset too. Must either be a perspective thing or a 21 century design principle only a few understand. It's disruptive technology 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TwoLegged 2,238 Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 On 12/28/2021 at 1:56 PM, huey 2 said: a hard dodger.... That's a very cunning design. The position of the cockpit has been optimised so that any spray over the weather bow will soak the whole cockpit. Never before has such perfection been achieved. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The great unwashed 383 Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 All real sailors know that all sailboats are always reaching in 10 knots of breeze and zero sea state. Given that, this boat will be dry as a bone. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
slap 975 Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 On 12/28/2021 at 8:56 AM, huey 2 said: a hard dodger.... So much wrong here. It looks like it was designed by someone with little sailing experience. Center cockpit boats tend to be wetter than aft cockpit boats. This boat increases the wetness factor by being even closer to the bow and extending almost to the edge of the hull. So you get the spray from the bow plus waves are invited into the cockpit. The jib sheets to the rail and this is a wide boat so you don't have have decent sheeting angles. You probably will put a dodger on the boat which would be in front of the mast so the jib clew would have to be high enough to be clear of the dodger when tacking. Hopefully the jib sheets won't get tangled in the dodger and try to rip it off when tacking. I like dodgers that extend in width at least just beyond the cockpit seat backs - on this boat the dodger would have to go almost to the rail which would make going forward inconvenient. The boat looks like the cockpit extends to the stern but a boxlike structure was plopped into the back of it. Great for obscuring your vision aft unless you are standing and are tall. At least the box roof is sloped down aft which helps a little. The box is wide enough that it might be a little tight walking from the cockpit to the stern. At least that passageway could allow the flood in the cockpit to drain out the stern. The cockpit being wide and deep means that moving from the forward cabin area to the aft cabin area would have to be done by going out into the cockpit. Or possibly a crawl space to go from one area to another area. No standing or even crouching headroom in a connecting passageway. Pretty much not acceptable on a boat this size. My impression is that this boat would have a fairly inefficient use of space belowdecks. And the boom seems short for a boat with a relatively small J dimension so it could be undercanvassed. The entrances to the aft structure are closer to the rail than most offset companionways...... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TwoLegged 2,238 Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 39 minutes ago, slap said: The entrances to the aft structure are closer to the rail than most offset companionways...... Yeah, but only offset companionways are fatal 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
toddster 922 Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 My first thought was that big center "cockpit" was where the benches for the galley slaves will be installed. No one cares if they get sprayed on. Then I thought maybe it's the cargo hold shown with the cover fully retracted. Most efficient way to trans-ship bales of drugs. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Santanasailor 639 Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 1 hour ago, slap said: So much wrong here. It looks like it was designed by someone with little sailing experience. Center cockpit boats tend to be wetter than aft cockpit boats. This boat increases the wetness factor by being even closer to the bow and extending almost to the edge of the hull. So you get the spray from the bow plus waves are invited into the cockpit. The jib sheets to the rail and this is a wide boat so you don't have have decent sheeting angles. You probably will put a dodger on the boat which would be in front of the mast so the jib clew would have to be high enough to be clear of the dodger when tacking. Hopefully the jib sheets won't get tangled in the dodger and try to rip it off when tacking. I like dodgers that extend in width at least just beyond the cockpit seat backs - on this boat the dodger would have to go almost to the rail which would make going forward inconvenient. The boat looks like the cockpit extends to the stern but a boxlike structure was plopped into the back of it. Great for obscuring your vision aft unless you are standing and are tall. At least the box roof is sloped down aft which helps a little. The box is wide enough that it might be a little tight walking from the cockpit to the stern. At least that passageway could allow the flood in the cockpit to drain out the stern. The cockpit being wide and deep means that moving from the forward cabin area to the aft cabin area would have to be done by going out into the cockpit. Or possibly a crawl space to go from one area to another area. No standing or even crouching headroom in a connecting passageway. Pretty much not acceptable on a boat this size. My impression is that this boat would have a fairly inefficient use of space belowdecks. And the boom seems short for a boat with a relatively small J dimension so it could be undercanvassed. The entrances to the aft structure are closer to the rail than most offset companionways...... But its got davits to carry the owners water toys, Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ishmael 10,553 Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 It's hard to scale this boat, but with the few clues that are given it would need to be at least 100 feet long to work at all. At that point, the dinghy would be about 20 feet long to hang in the davits properly, and the dance hall at the back would be about 20' X 30'. It would still be crawling headroom from the front cabin to the aft space. No hull ports, so the downstairs would be dismally dark, especially aft. The outside colour scheme I'd call Grimy Factory Town. I'll give it a 1.5 out of 100. Edit: I forgot to mention they don't show the ladders you'd need to access the foredeck. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chester 1,245 Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 4 hours ago, Ishmael said: It's hard to scale this boat, but with the few clues that are given it would need to be at least 100 feet long to work at all. At that point, the dinghy would be about 20 feet long to hang in the davits properly, and the dance hall at the back would be about 20' X 30'. It would still be crawling headroom from the front cabin to the aft space. No hull ports, so the downstairs would be dismally dark, especially aft. The outside colour scheme I'd call Grimy Factory Town. I'll give it a 1.5 out of 100. Edit: I forgot to mention they don't show the ladders you'd need to access the foredeck. sheesh, what a buzz kill Quote Link to post Share on other sites
toddster 922 Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 6 hours ago, Ishmael said: Edit: I forgot to mention they don't show the ladders you'd need to access the foredeck. Duh. You grab a spare halyard and swing up to the foredeck. Preferably with yer shirt open and a cutlass in one hand. Or a martini, depending. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Autonomous 1,232 Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 14 minutes ago, toddster said: Duh. You grab a spare halyard and swing up to the foredeck. Preferably with yer shirt open and a cutlass in one hand. Or a martini, depending. Sterling Hayden style! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Santanasailor 639 Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 From the looks of the hull shape, there really is nothing under the decks besides a handy place to carry dirty bilge water. The fore peak appears to be nothing more than a place to store life vests and other assorted boating “stuff.” The pilot house as such is a place for the guests when it is too cool or too hot. In reality, a basic hideout from the sun and a place to imbibe one’s favorite alcoholic beverages without he Louisiana Wildlife and Fisheries people seeing you and writing a particularly nasty ticket. The mast and sails are more for decoration. This is a power craft made to look ‘nautical.’ Like all good compromises, it compromises all that’s good while keeping all that’s not really necessary and/or deters from the vessels ability to actual navigate under sail and likely under power. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SloopJonB 12,559 Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 Why? Just why? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
slap 975 Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 19 minutes ago, SloopJonB said: Why? Just why? Look at the name. "Lateen Hind". Like it came out of someones butt. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The great unwashed 383 Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 Real sailors never raise the mainsail anyhow. Mostly they never even take the cover off. So this is a fine design. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Santanasailor 639 Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 Looking at these last two boats I have a question… DID I FALL ASPEEP, WAS THEN ABDUCTED BY ALIENS AND AM NOW ON ANOTHER PLANET?????? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Santanasailor 639 Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 Oh, that little sliver of a centerboard/daggerboard, would make this abomination all but impossible for the ‘individual’ likely to purchase this ‘thing’ totally unable to sail it What the hell ever happened to “if she looks right, she be right.” Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ishmael 10,553 Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 45 minutes ago, Santanasailor said: Oh, that little sliver of a centerboard/daggerboard, would make this abomination all but impossible for the ‘individual’ likely to purchase this ‘thing’ totally unable to sail it What the hell ever happened to “if she looks right, she be right.” That still holds true. This looks fucking awful. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tallyho 89 Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 Back on topic, spotted today in Cartagena, Spain. Aluminium, welded in place for good measure! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bull City 2,582 Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 On 11/7/2021 at 4:36 AM, Matagi said: It's probably also very stealthy... Shame. Here is the listing. I don't think it's a sailboat any more. https://autoinsiders.co.nz/autofair/sales-ad/13476/Townson-Townson-28- Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Matagi 1,450 Posted January 15 Share Posted January 15 1 hour ago, Bull City said: Here is the listing. I don't think it's a sailboat any more. https://autoinsiders.co.nz/autofair/sales-ad/13476/Townson-Townson-28- Apparently not. It has higher goals now. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Voiled 207 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 42 minutes ago, AAUGH! said: Wow, a huge and uttermost ugly dodger. And despite it's size it won't even dodge a wave wanting to go in the cockpit. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AAUGH! 5 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 39 minutes ago, Voiled said: Wow, a huge and uttermost ugly dodger. And despite it's size it won't even dodge a wave wanting to go in the cockpit. This project is in progress, it could be covered in plexiglass, strataglass, or screen. Or possibly a combo of all three. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AAUGH! 5 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 44 minutes ago, Voiled said: And despite it's size it won't even dodge a wave wanting to go in the cockpit. I don’t think this boat will ever see any waves again, except the ones from boats passing by. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ishmael 10,553 Posted January 16 Share Posted January 16 Posted before, but always worth a laugh. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Matagi 1,450 Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 Yes, that is was a Baltic. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
toddster 922 Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 Dunno... looks like it might work somewhere. Just not there. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SloopJonB 12,559 Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 1 hour ago, Matagi said: Yes, that is was a Baltic. Criminally bad taste. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Matagi 1,450 Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 21 minutes ago, SloopJonB said: Criminally bad taste. True. No reason to shoot (or even downvote) the messenger Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Student_Driver 177 Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 Not sure if it qualifies as a dodger, but then again, I can't say what this structure is. Just that it perplexes, astounds and repels me to a degree that I need an esthetic exorcism. Seriously, does anyone have a clue wtf this. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SloopJonB 12,559 Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 Looks like a solar panel bank on a boat that never moves. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Autonomous 1,232 Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 The upcoming propellers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mid 4,399 Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 11 hours ago, Student_Driver said: Seriously, does anyone have a clue wtf this. floating cannabis factory ? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jim in Halifax 593 Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 Floating bitcoin miner. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ride2live 57 Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 He replaced his diesel with with electric. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jim in Halifax 593 Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 On 3/28/2022 at 7:24 PM, Fleetwood said: What do the ladders lead up to? the wind generation deck. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Santanasailor 639 Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 I don’t see a mast Quote Link to post Share on other sites
py26129 177 Posted March 30 Author Share Posted March 30 Its one of them there new fangled ahdearrs. Ladder masts, double jibs must be fast 'cause no one is doing it Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Santanasailor 639 Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 I suppose this is the future. Guess I won’t be around long enough to “enjoy” it. Frankly, I think I will be very old fashioned and enjoy what I have always enjoyed. A nice little boat that is fairly fast and to my eye, good looking. (As always, your mileage may vary and to you this may be beautiful) Modern, solar powered, wing sailed catamaran. As I said, not the fastest and certainly not the most modern, but I’ll take her, and she’s mine. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chester 1,245 Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 3 hours ago, Santanasailor said: I suppose this is the future. Guess I won’t be around long enough to “enjoy” it. Frankly, I think I will be very old fashioned and enjoy what I have always enjoyed. A nice little boat that is fairly fast and to my eye, good looking. (As always, your mileage may vary and to you this may be beautiful) Modern, solar powered, wing sailed catamaran. As I said, not the fastest and certainly not the most modern, but I’ll take her, and she’s mine. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bugsy 699 Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 15 hours ago, Santanasailor said: As I said, not the fastest and certainly not the most modern, but I’ll take her, and she’s mine. Nicely trimmed sailed, Bristol-fashion and you are out sailing. You should be proud. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tane 151 Posted April 1 Share Posted April 1 On 1/1/2022 at 12:35 PM, huey 2 said: "wind" - like "flatulence" Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chester 1,245 Posted April 1 Share Posted April 1 4 hours ago, tane said: "wind" - like "flatulence" is that an off set pilot house??? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tane 151 Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 it is one of the frontrunners in the "most-idiotic-cruising-vessel" contest; could be a joke too ("how many moronic features can one incorporate?") Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Autonomous 1,232 Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 On 4/1/2022 at 5:59 AM, chester said: is that an off set pilot house??? Yes. But the offset door offsets the offset. Or squares it. Or cubes it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Santanasailor 639 Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 On 4/1/2022 at 3:48 AM, tane said: "wind" - like "flatulence" Going back to the original picture. What is the point of the helm at the far rear of the boat, when there is a perfectly good steering wheel inside that lets you steer, get drunk and do anything else your heart desires outside of the sun and the weather. After all, these boats aren’t made to be sailed right? Power up the old aux and go for a cruise. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tane 151 Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 can't find it in the net - must be a hoax Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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