Neverwas 60 Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 On 10/26/2019 at 1:47 PM, Chimp too said: Still in Cowes I think. Peter Harrison still owns the old base there. Can't remember whether the twin fin one ever got converted to something legal. He does own that yard still 100%. I know there are at least 2 boats there (see 2019 google maps pic) I didn't know which ones they were. I thought t least one of them was a Nippon boat though. Mad how more pics of that twin keel boat never goat out. I heard stories of the after party at that cup, the shore crew went into the shed and found beer bottles on the bulb and messages left by other teams who had been in for a look but not sure how true that is. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
blunderfull 681 Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 On 10/20/2019 at 2:48 AM, phill_nz said: i will pay that even if for no other reason to keep it what better for the city of sails to have a great big beautiful sailboat thats still one of a kind as a statement piece sculpture KZ-1 did a east coast USA tour after San Diego. Stopped off in Boston, so we headed down for the walkaround. Felt like walking the deck of an aircraft carrier - weird feeling. Talked up some Kiwis on board who said they jibbed it in 20kts down in New York and they didn’t plan on doing that again. Lol! Was a sight to behold in person. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Winston29 110 Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 I'm not sure if this was actually used in the Americas Cup or not... The article I found said "TOMCAT is a performance racing Prosail 40 catamaran, that has served as a platform and inspiration for the direction of multi-hull America’s Cup sailing." I stumbled on it at the Westpoint Marina in Redwood City yesterday. I have no idea what the asking price is. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ex-yachtie 1,622 Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 Il Moro? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
.............. 117 Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 1 hour ago, Ex-yachtie said: Il Moro? Judging by the bow, ITA-1 the first IACC boat or ITA-7, ITA-25 which lost to Bill Koch is in the US on dry land. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wolkenzug 33 Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 1 hour ago, DHFiend said: J That´s what I call a display. Wow. Where is that? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NZL4EVER 115 Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 4 hours ago, Wolkenzug said: That´s what I call a display. Wow. Where is that? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Priscilla 2,804 Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 Brilliant display a touch more dynamic than Aotearoa cleated to the TNZ base wall. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tornado-Cat 1,082 Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 My favourite, photo from 2015, I suppose she is still sailing. Dunno about Dame Pattie, Gretel III, Courageous. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Priscilla 2,804 Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 Dame Pattie in the Med. Gretel II Hobart. Courageous at the 2019 12m Worlds. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tornado-Cat 1,082 Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 12 minutes ago, Priscilla said: Dame Pattie in the Med. Gretel II Hobart. Courageous at the 2019 12m Worlds. Thanks Priscilla, most beautiful boats, and still sailing. The golden era. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Priscilla 2,804 Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 Yup , back in the good old days when your hull never left the ocean. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Priscilla 2,804 Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 Weatherly US 17. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Priscilla 2,804 Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 Heritage US23 last of the woodys. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
accnick 1,745 Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 7 hours ago, Priscilla said: Heritage US23 last of the woodys. What about Valiant, US 24? Don't know which of those two was launched first, but Valiant's hull number is the last US woody. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jackolantern 598 Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 Valiant is still racing and still missing about 6 feet of boat at the stern... going around being the tallest midget in the Classic Racing fleet rather than lining up against actual 12 Metres.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Priscilla 2,804 Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 5 hours ago, accnick said: What about Valiant, US 24? Don't know which of those two was launched first, but Valiant's hull number is the last US woody. Most correct. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RImike 167 Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 16 hours ago, NZL4EVER said: Those used to be on display and the latest I believe are in indoor storage in Portsmouth RI. That was a few years ago however they still had the holes in them from the display. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
~HHN92~ 124 Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 8 hours ago, accnick said: What about Valiant, US 24? Don't know which of those two was launched first, but Valiant's hull number is the last US woody. The NYYC got Charlie to switch with them from 23 to 24, Heritage was the last wood 12. Heard it from Charlie himself at one of his talks during our Hospice Cup where sailing on Heritage is donated for bids to the charity. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RImike 167 Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 Is Heritage even considered a 12 meter anymore considering that it won't measure in due to the modifications done to it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
accnick 1,745 Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 3 hours ago, RImike said: Is Heritage even considered a 12 meter anymore considering that it won't measure in due to the modifications done to it. She does not currently hold a class certificate, but was restored to a 12mR rig a few years ago. Are any of the old ACC boats considered ACC boats these days, since none have current certs (not that there is currently any active ACC class organization), nor could they in their current state comply with the old Class Rule? I would say we need to cut them a bit of slack. The are all still retired boats in recognizable form that were built for AC competition. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Priscilla 2,804 Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 3 hours ago, accnick said: I would say we need to cut them a bit of slack. The are all still retired boats in recognizable form that were built for AC competition. Agree with that statement and as a example Gretel KA1 sits in Germany awaiting restoration by one of those brave souls that has very deep pockets and a passion for the class. https://www.yard.robbeberking.com/en/angebote/gretel.php Quote Link to post Share on other sites
trt131 268 Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 Middle picture. I remember that day quite well (early '80's?). Big swell creating surf on the reef at South Head. We had to dodge board riders waiting for another set of big waves on the way to the finish at Watsons bay. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kenergy 622 Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 2 hours ago, trt131 said: Middle picture. I remember that day quite well (early '80's?). Big swell creating surf on the reef at South Head. We had to dodge board riders waiting for another set of big waves on the way to the finish at Watsons bay. That is very cool, sad that we will probably never see the likes of it again. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tornado-Cat 1,082 Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 6 hours ago, Priscilla said: Agree with that statement and as a example Gretel KA1 sits in Germany awaiting restoration by one of those brave souls that has very deep pockets and a passion for the class. Great picture, great sailing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Somtam Cowboy 14 Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 Awesome shot....!! Boat on the insides got right of way. Kawabunga!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ex-yachtie 1,622 Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 Had a quick dig around and found this. I didn't realise that KZ7 developed a gennaker (8:00). Great sailing conditions. Dramatic sailing, mostly due to breakages and the fact that the teams don't seem to be as slick as they are now. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rh3000 1,883 Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 From that clip - SAAC in a nutshell 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rh3000 1,883 Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 Friend and long-time lurker shared this with me, has the originals. We suspect taken back in NZ after(?) the challenge. Fay himself can be seen in bottom shot. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PJB 49 Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 Reminds me I’ve got some pics of that day. same sorts of shots you could pretty much walk from the city to Devonport via boats the harbour was so full. What a blast. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tornado-Cat 1,082 Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 https://www.sailweb.co.uk/2019/11/09/americas-cup-the-way-we-were/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hoom 640 Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 On 11/9/2019 at 9:41 AM, rh3000 said: Friend and long-time lurker shared this with me, has the originals. We suspect taken back in NZ after(?) the challenge. Fay himself can be seen in bottom shot. I believe thats the launch. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hhn92 43 Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 On 11/7/2019 at 12:21 PM, Ex-yachtie said: Had a quick dig around and found this. I didn't realise that KZ7 developed a gennaker (8:00). Great sailing conditions. Dramatic sailing, mostly due to breakages and the fact that the teams don't seem to be as slick as they are now. I have this full raceday on VHS, AIV surfing back and forth across KIII's stern was classic. This vid did not show the best of it, they were only feet apart at times, throwing a ton of water into the air off their bow. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hhn92 43 Posted November 11, 2019 Share Posted November 11, 2019 On 11/5/2019 at 8:35 AM, RImike said: Is Heritage even considered a 12 meter anymore considering that it won't measure in due to the modifications done to it. I sailed on her back in 2016, they joke that she is a '13' meter, and the class invites her to race when they need an extra boat to fill-out the fleet. edit: Heritage's mast is an old S&S stick. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ex-yachtie 1,622 Posted November 18, 2019 Share Posted November 18, 2019 Gretel? :-( Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NeedAClew 1,786 Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 Just saw an article about LONGTZE, CHN95, raced in the 2007 LVC. First AC yacht and first carbon fiber boat built in China. Found in Hong Kong https://thexpensive.com/americas-cup-s-y-longtze-saving-chinas-sailing-history-for-tomorrow.html Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ex-yachtie 1,622 Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hoom 640 Posted December 7, 2019 Share Posted December 7, 2019 NZL10 & 12 were twins for two-boat testing in 1992 campaign, re-used for the original ACWS after '95. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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accnick 1,745 Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 3 hours ago, Tornado-Cat said: The only two extant J's that can rationally be called retired AC boats are Shamrock and Endeavour, although little is left of the original fabric of either one. I've had the great good fortune to sail both, including sailing Shamrock with Frank Murdoch, her original rig designer, onboard back in the 1980's. Compared to any AC boats that came after them, they are stately, but cumbersome beasts. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tornado-Cat 1,082 Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 29 minutes ago, accnick said: The only two extant J's that can rationally be called retired AC boats are Shamrock and Endeavour, although little is left of the original fabric of either one. I've had the great good fortune to sail both, including sailing Shamrock with Frank Murdoch, her original rig designer, onboard back in the 1980's. Compared to any AC boats that came after them, they are stately, but cumbersome beasts. + 1. Having the chance to sail them is not given to everybody, good for you. You sailed some of the AC historic and iconic boats. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mogs 98 Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 Whaaaat? All that crap bolted to Stars and Stripes! FB site for YT channel says Morris, Illinois. https://youtu.be/AEZo1qsNBHE Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mogs 98 Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 Found it. Facebook gallery of the lift. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
See Level 1,186 Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 The Fuck? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Priscilla 2,804 Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 1 hour ago, See Level said: The Fuck? Crikey is that the new S&S AC75 being launched. Foil arms are pretty extraordinaire 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
~HHN92~ 124 Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 15 hours ago, See Level said: The Fuck? Looks like an original 1992 design with the destroyer bow. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
accnick 1,745 Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 4 hours ago, ~HHN92~ said: Looks like an original 1992 design with the destroyer bow. Pretty sure that is USA 34, built for the 1995 AC which was won by NZL 32. Dennis won the Citizen Cup in USA 34, but it was such a dog that he chose not to sail it in the AC, sailing Young America instead. USA 34 had an unusual main shroud chainplate arrangement that allowed shifting the mast position quite a bit to change the balance of the boat. It didn't help. NZL 32 was far superior to any of the potential challengers or defenders. Probably the second fastest boat that year was AUS 35, but it's hard to win races when you break in half and sink. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mogs 98 Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 4 hours ago, accnick said: Pretty sure that is USA 34, built for the 1995 AC which was won by NZL 32. Dennis won the Citizen Cup in USA 34, but it was such a dog that he chose not to sail it in the AC, sailing Young America instead. USA 34 had an unusual main shroud chainplate arrangement that allowed shifting the mast position quite a bit to change the balance of the boat. It didn't help. In the last 5 minutes of the yt video above, the owner says it was from 1995 (so USA-34), and that it was "the only Stars & Stripes not to sail in the America's cup" so consistent with history. The adjustable chainplates are clearly visible in the video, they use them for lifting. The "destroyer bow", appears to be a bunch of crazy panels bolted to it with beads of sealant. Pretty strange thing to do to a boat, especially floating it like that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
accnick 1,745 Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 1 hour ago, mogs said: In the last 5 minutes of the yt video above, the owner says it was from 1995 (so USA-34), and that it was "the only Stars & Stripes not to sail in the America's cup" so consistent with history. The adjustable chainplates are clearly visible in the video, they use them for lifting. The "destroyer bow", appears to be a bunch of crazy panels bolted to it with beads of sealant. Pretty strange thing to do to a boat, especially floating it like that. USA 34 originally had what we referred to as a "metre boat" bow, with a single pronounced knuckle well above the waterline and fairly long overhangs forward. With a true destroyer bow, the knuckle is actually just below the surface, so there is no point of inflection in the stem profile above the waterline. Chris Dickson's boat NZL 39, a Farr design, was one of the early destroyer bows in the ACC Class in 1995. Stars & Stripes competed, but was neither the challenger nor defender in 1992, 2000, or 2003, plus the unusual situation in 1995 when Dennis sailed PACT's boat in the Match. So no, USA 34 was not even close to being the only Stars & Stripes not to sail in the Cup match. Boats named S&S sailed in the Match (and won) in 1987 (Fremantle) and 1988 (DoG match cat vs dog, San Diego). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mogs 98 Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 1 hour ago, accnick said: Stars & Stripes competed, but was neither the challenger nor defender in 1992, 2000, or 2003, plus the unusual situation in 1995 when Dennis sailed PACT's boat in the Match. So no, USA 34 was not even close to being the only Stars & Stripes not to sail in the Cup match. Boats named S&S sailed in the Match (and won) in 1987 (Fremantle) and 1988 (DoG match cat vs dog, San Diego). Thanks, kinda knew as soon as I'd posted that it probably wasn't the whole truth. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mogs 98 Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 F/AC50 (or 45F) appears for a second in the TENET trailer. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ex-yachtie 1,622 Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 16 minutes ago, mogs said: F/AC50 (or 45F) appears for a second in the TENET trailer. Two boats? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mogs 98 Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 17 minutes ago, Ex-yachtie said: Two boats? Yeah looks like it, there is absolutely no context in the trailer as to why they are on the boats. There does appear to be a time manipulation theme to the film, so maybe they're trying to go back and help Jimmy go faster. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Allante 10 Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 Sadly, We are stripping down 2x IACC boats, 21 & 40, can be purchased for a very good price complete, otherwise all equipment will be sold or sent to scrap yard. Both have inboard diesel engines and were in commercial survey so plenty of gear. Any interest contact me asap, as they wont be around for long. In Brisbane, Australia Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DohaNZ 32 Posted March 26, 2020 Share Posted March 26, 2020 Don’t know if you’ve seen the very cool clips which ETNZ has been pumping out on their Facebook page... telling the stories of their previous cup boats, and how they nearly all broke some sort of mould. #InCrazyWeBelieve is the catchline, I think. Just saw the latest one about NZL20, which pointed out that sometimes crazy just doesn’t work - and that you only see the results three years later. It ends on a shot of NZL 32. BUT, I’m almost certain this is NZL 60 (the TV One logo on the side, and the shape of the bow suggests it is)... while the spinnaker has the TVNZ logo on it, as it did in 1995. (I know, I know, not massively important... I’m just surprised that they’d put all this work into an ad campaign, and not have the right boat!) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
monosailor 22 Posted March 28, 2020 Share Posted March 28, 2020 On 3/23/2020 at 4:05 PM, Allante said: Sadly, We are stripping down 2x IACC boats, 21 & 40, can be purchased for a very good price complete, otherwise all equipment will be sold or sent to scrap yard. Both have inboard diesel engines and were in commercial survey so plenty of gear. Any interest contact me asap, as they wont be around for long. In Brisbane, Australia Any chance of some recent photos? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Allante 10 Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 On 3/28/2020 at 2:02 PM, monosailor said: Any chance of some recent photos? Here is some before we shrink wrapped them 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Allante 10 Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 2 minutes ago, Allante said: Here is some before we shrink wrapped them 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Priscilla 2,804 Posted April 12, 2020 Share Posted April 12, 2020 Chancegger. http://ringlemarine.com/projects/chancegger/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NZL3481 386 Posted April 13, 2020 Share Posted April 13, 2020 23 hours ago, Priscilla said: Chancegger. http://ringlemarine.com/projects/chancegger/ Quite the throne... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Priscilla 2,804 Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 View from the throne. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Woolfy 300 Posted April 14, 2020 Share Posted April 14, 2020 That really is a work of art. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DickDastardly 285 Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 On 4/14/2020 at 1:02 PM, Woolfy said: That really is a work of art. Gorgeous, I recall seeing it sitting little used at Southport many moons ago. IIRC it wasn't even created to be an AC challenger. Baron Bich got Britt chance to design him a boat, then had it built by Herman Egger in Switzerland - hence the name. Under the nationality rules at the time it was never going to be eligible to sail for France. It was used as a design input to Bich's first 12, France 1. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lickindip 541 Posted April 20, 2020 Share Posted April 20, 2020 On 4/14/2020 at 1:15 PM, Priscilla said: View from the throne. if that's the state of the bathroom, i wonder what the rest of the boat looks like Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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accnick 1,745 Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 47 minutes ago, Priscilla said: That was the best thing that every happened to the America's Cup, for any number of reasons. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
usa318 6 Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 From today's front page.... Wondering what happened to AmericaOne USA-61??? Last reported in Europe as Oracle's promo boat in 2007. http://valenciasailing.blogspot.com/2007/02/bmw-oracles-usa-61-in-valencia.html?m=1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Priscilla 2,804 Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 1 hour ago, usa318 said: Wondering what happened to AmericaOne USA-61??? USA-61 on display Munich Airport. 2000 Louis Vuitton final was a cracker 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Raptorsailor 313 Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 Is there any chance of NZL-92 and 84 being relaunched for tourists like the other explore NZ iacc's or are they too dilapidated? Also where is SUI-100? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
barfy 1,305 Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 7 minutes ago, Raptorsailor said: Is there any chance of NZL-92 and 84 being relaunched for tourists like the other explore NZ iacc's or are they too dilapidated? Also where is SUI-100? Perhaps you forgot..NZ has no tourists. Explore will be 100% mothballed for ages. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
accnick 1,745 Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 19 hours ago, Priscilla said: USA-61 on display Munich Airport. 2000 Louis Vuitton final was a cracker That video was great. Did anyone count the number of times that green chute tore across the middle during that series? The sailmakers cringed every time it went up. It was fast, but fragile. They got very good at changing spinnakers, and repairing it overnight. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Priscilla 2,804 Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 Remarkable Louis Vuitton final considering AmericaOne had 2 DNF and the final was 4 all decided in the last race 9. Final Team I II III IV V VI VII VIII IX Pts Prada Challenge W +1:33 W W +0:34 +0:09 +1:06 W W 5 AmericaOne +0:25 W DNF DNF W W W +0:37 +0:49 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sisu3360 210 Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 I always wonder what might have been if AmericaOne hadn't had all that gear failure or if S&S didn't lose a point in Ruddergate. Both were really well-sailed boats, though I don't know if either would have had better luck against TNZ with Coutts and Butterworth in their prime. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Priscilla 2,804 Posted May 2, 2020 Share Posted May 2, 2020 Weatherly 1962 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hoom 640 Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 Good grief thats one way to hike I guess A fascinating shot! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Priscilla 2,804 Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 Anita. http://www.skostsee.org/history.htm Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CheekyMonkey 27 Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 On 4/22/2020 at 9:41 PM, Priscilla said: USA-61 on display Munich Airport. That photo was taken in 2005, a long time ago. I passed through MUC last year, and stayed at the Hilton. Walked through the plaza to the Edeka market on the kitty corner and didn't notice any AC boats on display, but some construction. Here it is in Feb 2018 https://goo.gl/maps/T2vf4iHmF7ZG34mw7 After that photo from 2007, the trail seems to be cold. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sailbydate 3,613 Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 21 hours ago, Priscilla said: Weatherly 1962 About as useful as holding both arms extended, outboard. But it looks spectacular, right? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stingray~ 2,280 Posted May 4, 2020 Share Posted May 4, 2020 Could be a rare book https://www.ebay.com/itm/Duel-On-The-Wind-A-Novel-Of-The-Americas-Cup-Challenge-by-Richard-Duprey-/373039332075 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Priscilla 2,804 Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 How many 12m had tillers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sisu3360 210 Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 I seem to remember reading that Sverige was the only 12 to have a tiller, at least in the postwar AC era. Looks like a lot of weather helm in that shot. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jethrow 411 Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 16 hours ago, Sisu3360 said: I seem to remember reading that Sverige was the only 12 to have a tiller, at least in the postwar AC era. Looks like a lot of weather helm in that shot. Either weather helm or he's just seen that big arse metal bouy and done a big duck to miss it! 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sailbydate 3,613 Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 32 minutes ago, Jethrow said: Either weather helm or he's just seen that big arse metal bouy and done a big duck to miss it! Yep. Just steering the course round the buoy I'd say, judging by the stern swing and the lower woollies on the genoa. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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