Rantifarian 8 Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 Just how long has this project been going on? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Whisper 39 Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 1 hour ago, Rantifarian said: Just how long has this project been going on? I remember it from around the days of WLYDO, I think. Yeah, that's it! In fact, I think Bob stole the design from me. Completely. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sam_crocker 73 Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 6 hours ago, Bob Perry said: Valis: There is a guitar tech in Bellevue that people come to from all over the country, Mike Lull. He builds custom basses too. Maybe we should plan a road trip and both take our axes in for adjustment. I took my Rick to him when I bought it. My buddy Jeff takes all his guitars to him immediately after he buys them. I'd love to see what he could do with my Jazz bass. He's in Bellevue so it's a PITA but if we did it together it would be fun. There's' Chinese seafood joint down the street I'd like to try. http://www.mikelull.com/ Here's an authentic Sichuan place. Karaoke and everything. It's got the atmosphere, the food is not americanized. https://www.yelp.com/biz/twilight-bellevue?osq=chinese+food We went with the whole family for my birthday a couple years ago. my better half didn't want to go in because all the girls with short skirts going to the karaoke joint next door, it looked kinda dicey to her. But it was my birthday so I prevailed. Food was great, the best Chinese I've had outside China. And better than some I've had in China but those are stories for another day. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kdh 99 Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 I have a '78 P-bass that I bought new. This year I decided to spring for a custom Alembic, a small builder in Santa Rosa, CA. They were part of the Dead and LSD scene in the beginning. They invented active pickups. This is what my bass looks like now. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sail4beer 3,413 Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 We know who the rich bass player is now. always admired Alembic Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bob Perry 1,333 Posted August 30, 2017 Author Share Posted August 30, 2017 That's nice kdh. Is that a carbon fiber spine? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kdh 99 Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 Bob, that's good old fashioned ebony. The fretboard and framing veneers are also. The rest is maple, flame for the top, as you can see. S4b, yeah, expensive. Mine is relatively simple. An Alembic "Essence." Here's a more typical example. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
A guy in the Chesapeake 1,679 Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 15 hours ago, valis said: And the walrus was me. That bass needs some serious torsion rod adjustment. Unfortunately, the way it was built I can't get any of my wrenches on the adjustors. They are threaded rods with threaded hex sleeves (like very long nuts), but there's not enough space to work with. I'm sure someone out there has a tool that would fit, but since I never play the thing I haven't worried about it. Anyway, (Bob) you know how I like my action high... Have you looked at StewMac for the tool? The Truss rod on my brand-new Fender dimension bass didn't have enough travel to get the neck relief correct - hadda take the neck off, put a couple washers under the nut, and clamp the neck to a table to induce a reverse bend, then tighten the truss rod to hold it. Was aggravated to have to do that much to a new instrument, but, it worked. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
A guy in the Chesapeake 1,679 Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 1 hour ago, kdh said: I have a '78 P-bass that I bought new. This year I decided to spring for a custom Alembic, a small builder in Santa Rosa, CA. They were part of the Dead and LSD scene in the beginning. They invented active pickups. This is what my bass looks like now. That oughta be a nice thump-stick when it gets done - hope you find time to share pics of the completed instrument! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cruisin Loser 2,664 Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 Great looking bass, K. I love the shape of the neck heel where it starts through the body. I believe Alembic #1 was owned by Jack Casady of Jeff Airplane and Hot Tuna. This is my lefty Collings I35LC, built in Austin by the recently passed Bill Collings, with underwound Jason Lollar pickups. My Gibson custom shop guitars sit unused in cases since Beth gave me this for a birthday present. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kdh 99 Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 Nice axe, CL. You're right about Casady and Alembic #1. The Alembics are all about getting the sound uncolored from the vibrating string. Hence the solid body, neck-through design, and ebony in the neck. I use a Zoom B3n modeling preamp (for compression) into a Bose F1, which has a flat response. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kdh 99 Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 By the way, for anyone interested in the effect on frequency response of pickup position, this is a cool site. http://www.till.com/articles/PickupResponseDemo/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
valis 641 Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 You guys are forcing me to do this... Here's a Gibson "Thunderbird" that I got at a charity auction. Again, this was at the Petaluma Phoenix Theater, where I was (shall we say) instrumental in the rescuing the youth-oriented theater from its impending conversion into office space. My friends and I put together an LLC, purchased the in-escrow building from would-be new owner, set up a non-profit, and donated the building. That was back in 1999, and the Phoenix is still going strong. The cool thing about this bass is that it was enhanced by none other than bassplaying legend Les Claypool (who has often played at the Phoenix, with and without his band Primus). You could do much worse than follow the instructions Les has thoughtfully inscribed. Speaking of puppies, I need to wire up a pickup-select switch for this puppy. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cruisin Loser 2,664 Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 That is the coolest thing ever! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
valis 641 Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 1 hour ago, kdh said: By the way, for anyone interested in the effect on frequency response of pickup position, this is a cool site. http://www.till.com/articles/PickupResponseDemo/ Interesting! But I think the simulation is perhaps not quite accurate, at least if you try to place the pickup on the nut-side of the neck midpoint. The response should be a mirror image on either side of the octave (the simulation knows nothing about where you choose to pluck the string). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sail4beer 3,413 Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 The advice on the lower bout is the best advice for a bass player. I saw him perform a few times. Once, he had a woman dressed as a mermaid playing with him. From the back row, I could finally see that she was playing a sitar and had been ripping rock and blues on it. Buckethead lived with and played with Claypool and is another you don't want to learn from at first. Thanks for showing us that one! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Steam Flyer 8,412 Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 2 hours ago, Cruisin Loser said: Great looking bass, K. I love the shape of the neck heel where it starts through the body. I believe Alembic #1 was owned by Jack Casady of Jeff Airplane and Hot Tuna. This is my lefty Collings I35LC, built in Austin by the recently passed Bill Collings, with underwound Jason Lollar pickups. My Gibson custom shop guitars sit unused in cases since Beth gave me this for a birthday present. Dang, that is a beautiful guitar. I have an "off-the-shelf" Gib 335 which is a very nice player; I probably don't know enough about guitars to appreciate anything better........... FB- Doug Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hobot 4,398 Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 So, has a launch date for CATARI been set yet? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SpongeDeckSquareFoil 38 Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 I feel confident in saying that it will be sometime this century. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bob Perry 1,333 Posted August 30, 2017 Author Share Posted August 30, 2017 7 minutes ago, SpongeDeckSquareFoil said: I feel confident in saying that it will be sometime this century. I agree Sponger. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kdh 99 Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 1 hour ago, valis said: Interesting! But I think the simulation is perhaps not quite accurate, at least if you try to place the pickup on the nut-side of the neck midpoint. The response should be a mirror image on either side of the octave (the simulation knows nothing about where you choose to pluck the string). Here's what Tillman has to say about that on the web page. I have to think about it. The Symmetry Riddle The concept of frequency response here is somewhat abstract as one just plays individual notes on a guitar string and it is not a filtering function as such. But if you ripped out the frets and slide the pitch up, the levels of the fundamental and harmonics would follow this curve. Should the curves be the same for pickups placed at, say, 1/4 the way from the bridge and 1/4 the way from the nut? No, because sliding up the neck is part of the frequency response mechansim and that loses the symmetry. But for an open string, the discrete harmonics should be the same. To see that effect, turn off the plot and just display the first 16 harmonics, and compare those at symmetrical ends of the vibrating string. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kdh 99 Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 Why all this thread drift about Catari, by the way? Start your own thread! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
valis 641 Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 6 minutes ago, kdh said: Here's what Tillman has to say about that on the web page. I have to think about it. The Symmetry Riddle [...] Should the curves be the same for pickups placed at, say, 1/4 the way from the bridge and 1/4 the way from the nut? No, because sliding up the neck is part of the frequency response mechansim and that loses the symmetry. But for an open string, the discrete harmonics should be the same. To see that effect, turn off the plot and just display the first 16 harmonics, and compare those at symmetrical ends of the vibrating string. I have to think about it too. I'm not buying that "sliding up the neck" thing. If you have an unfretted string supported at each end, how can the pickup tell the difference between bridge and nut? Interesting that the harmonics show this symmetry. I guess I don't understand the freq response plot. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
valis 641 Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 I've been considering an "instruments and playing music" thread, but I think it's more fun to have this stuff scattered around multiple non-related threads. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bob Perry 1,333 Posted August 30, 2017 Author Share Posted August 30, 2017 I agree Valis, comic relief is always welcome. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
austin1972 629 Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 1 hour ago, valis said: You guys are forcing me to do this... The cool thing about this bass is that it was enhanced by none other than bassplaying legend Les Claypool (who has often played at the Phoenix, with and without his band Primus). You could do much worse than follow the instructions Les has thoughtfully inscribed. That's so cool. I've seen Les with Primus, The Flying Frog Brigade and Oysterhead. Somehow, I've never met Les but I think that might be better. One very eccentric talent. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
valis 641 Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 And here's Primus' video of "Jerry Was a Racecar Driver", filmed at -- THE PHOENIX THEATER !!! Les has occasionally tried out new stuff at the Phoenix. One time his band played the entire "Animals" album (Pink Floyd) there. He's been a good friend to the Phoenix. And this video has a boat in it -- sailing the seas of cheese. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
austin1972 629 Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 Dog will hunt! Metallica turned Claypool down because he was too good. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sail4beer 3,413 Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 1 hour ago, valis said: I've been considering an "instruments and playing music" thread, but I think it's more fun to have this stuff scattered around multiple non-related threads. I think you could start the Music Anarchy thread. I'm too new here... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cruisin Loser 2,664 Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 3 hours ago, Steam Flyer said: Dang, that is a beautiful guitar. I have an "off-the-shelf" Gib 335 which is a very nice player; I probably don't know enough about guitars to appreciate anything better........... FB- Doug Thanks. I was playing a few weeks ago with Noah Wotherspoon and Ally Venable, with Noah's rhythm section. At the end, Noah's bassist, a lefty, asked if he could play the Collings a little. After about 30 minutes we all had to go and he kind of timidly asked what it cost, and said "That's the nicest electric I've ever held." And no, I'm nowhere near Noah or Ally, but it was all sorts of fun to play with them. http://www.noahwotherspoon.com/ http://www.allyvenableband.com/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
A guy in the Chesapeake 1,679 Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 2 hours ago, Sail4beer said: I think you could start the Music Anarchy thread. I'm too new here... Done - in GA Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bob Perry 1,333 Posted August 30, 2017 Author Share Posted August 30, 2017 I have a custom made acoustic with a Port Orford Cedar top. The luthier thought it would be cool to use a boat building wood for the top. It sounds like shit. He agreed to replace it but I kept it for the novelty. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Whisper 39 Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 8 minutes ago, Bob Perry said: I have a custom made acoustic with a Port Orford Cedar top. The luthier thought it would be cool to use a boat building wood for the top. It sounds like shit. He agreed to replace it but I kept it for the novelty. I'll order one with a star board top. That should resonate nicely. If not, I can cut bait on it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tucky 36 Posted August 30, 2017 Share Posted August 30, 2017 9 hours ago, Cruisin Loser said: Great looking bass, K. I love the shape of the neck heel where it starts through the body. I believe Alembic #1 was owned by Jack Casady of Jeff Airplane and Hot Tuna. This is my lefty Collings I35LC, built in Austin by the recently passed Bill Collings, with underwound Jason Lollar pickups. My Gibson custom shop guitars sit unused in cases since Beth gave me this for a birthday present. That is beautiful, and I could play it:-) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sculpin 230 Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 9 hours ago, valis said: You guys are forcing me to do this... Here's a Gibson "Thunderbird" that I got at a charity auction. Again, this was at the Petaluma Phoenix Theater, where I was (shall we say) instrumental in the rescuing the youth-oriented theater from its impending conversion into office space. My friends and I put together an LLC, purchased the in-escrow building from would-be new owner, set up a non-profit, and donated the building. That was back in 1999, and the Phoenix is still going strong. The cool thing about this bass is that it was enhanced by none other than bassplaying legend Les Claypool (who has often played at the Phoenix, with and without his band Primus). You could do much worse than follow the instructions Les has thoughtfully inscribed. Speaking of puppies, I need to wire up a pickup-select switch for this puppy. That is wicked! I love it. First time I saw Primus they blew the top off my head. Once we got past the audience chanting "Primus Sucks!!". Les is amazing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
valis 641 Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 29 minutes ago, sculpin said: That is wicked! I love it. First time I saw Primus they blew the top off my head. Once we got past the audience chanting "Primus Sucks!!". Les is amazing. I really enjoy Tim "Herb" Alexander's drumming too. The way he often starts his fills one hit "early" always gets my attention! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
zenmasterfred 565 Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 On 8/29/2017 at 2:43 PM, valis said: Here's the bass in its full glory: What does it rate? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kdh 99 Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 10 hours ago, valis said: I really enjoy Tim "Herb" Alexander's drumming too. The way he often starts his fills one hit "early" always gets my attention! Cool sound. I would call them bass and drums centric. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kdh 99 Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 I imagine most of us know the Bitter End on North Sound. Here's what it looks like now. I hope ND's new house project didn't get whacked this badly. I'm sure he's glad the boat's in North Carolina. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SloopJonB 12,578 Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 Looks like it was nuked. Is there a reason they don't build with reinforced concrete in the hurricane belt? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rasputin22 3,493 Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 Unfortunately ND's house is only about 7 miles directly downwind of that photo. Fortunately, his house seems to be one of those massive re-inforced concrete bunkers that the Continentals were fond of building when that areas 'dream home' boom was taking place. Unfortunately, the local builders used beach sand for the concrete at the time with maybe a bit of rain washing. Unfortunately rains sufficient to rinse the salt out of beach sand are infrequent in that area. Fortunately I believe a lot of the distraction the has kept CATARI safe in the PSC shed is due to the measures that ND has taken on the house to correct the structural deficiencies from the rotted rebar in the house. Not an easy fix, ask me how I know! I house sat in St John for a late 60's house that had that problem and the underside of all the concrete slabs over the cisterns had delaminated leaving the rusting rebar showing. You should have seen the look on the owners face the first time I took him down into the cistern and explained the situation. Rust waits for no one! That house got a long and expensive fix and I've found it in the post IRMA aerials and it seems to have done just fine. Knowing ND, I'm sure he wanted only the best for his house in the BVI and hopefully it was ready for IRMA's ravages. Word is that Marina Cay suffered badly. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Panoramix 1,776 Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 11 minutes ago, SloopJonB said: Looks like it was nuked. Is there a reason they don't build with reinforced concrete in the hurricane belt? You can build in wood as long as you design it properly and tie down properly the structure and the roofing. I nearly designed a structure in timber for a hotel 18 months ago in Cuba until the architect changed his mind and did it in concrete. I would be a bit nervous right now trying to know what happened... This kind of event really put to the test your design! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Grey Dawn 20 Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 Those BEYC structures on stilts are pretty old. Maybe not up to modern building standards. I'm curious how Biras and Oil Nut Bay fared. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sailforbeer 20 Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 happy new year. will this be the year that CATARI splashes and sails? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TwoLegged 2,238 Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 On 1/9/2018 at 5:27 PM, sailforbeer said: happy new year. will this be the year that CATARI splashes and sails? Still some time left this year for that splash to happen ... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
slap 977 Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 23 minutes ago, TwoLegged said: Still some time left this year for that splash to happen ... Assuming that Hurricane Florence doesn't damage the Pacific Seacraft Factory and surrounding area - I get the impression that much of the land around there is fairly low and the storm surge could be devastating. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cruisin Loser 2,664 Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 At this point I'm as interested in seeing @kdh's new bass. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TwoLegged 2,238 Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 1 hour ago, slap said: 2 hours ago, TwoLegged said: Still some time left this year for that splash to happen ... Assuming that Hurricane Florence doesn't damage the Pacific Seacraft Factory and surrounding area - I get the impression that much of the land around there is fairly low and the storm surge could be devastating. Smash before splash would be a sad ending for such an exquisite boat. OTOH, since the owner seems to have moved on ... an insured total loss might be one way of bringing the saga to a close. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Steam Flyer 8,412 Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 3 hours ago, TwoLegged said: On 1/9/2018 at 12:27 PM, sailforbeer said: happy new year. will this be the year that CATARI splashes and sails? Still some time left this year for that splash to happen ... They got almost as big a storm surge as New Bern, the splash could have happened. OTOH, having been there and met the folks at Pacific Seacraft, I am confident they did everything possible to prep for this hurricane. FB- Doug Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hobot 4,398 Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 Bump.... Any news? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paps49 410 Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 2 hours ago, hobot said: Bump.... Any news? It's in for a refit. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
savoir 219 Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 Aaaaahhhh , doncha love optimists. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sculpin 230 Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 Sometimes it would be good to be able to change a topic name... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
IStream 3,415 Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 5 hours ago, sculpin said: Sometimes it would be good to be able to change a topic name... But not in this case. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bob Perry 1,333 Posted February 19, 2019 Author Share Posted February 19, 2019 Leave the thread. If I hear something I'll post. If not I won't. Simple as that. Worry about something else like,,,,,,motor bikes. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
paps49 410 Posted February 19, 2019 Share Posted February 19, 2019 5 hours ago, Bob Perry said: Leave the thread. If I hear something I'll post. If not I won't. Simple as that. Worry about something else like,,,,,,motor bikes. Bob were there ever any photos taken of the finished boat? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bob Perry 1,333 Posted February 19, 2019 Author Share Posted February 19, 2019 Paps: I took some photos at about 95% completion. But it was hard for me to get a good shot. I am not a skilled photographer and that was well before Boomer's crash course in photography. You can't get up enough and away enough to get a good overall shot the way the boat is in the shed. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hike, Bitches! 353 Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 Too bad, I was looking forward to seeing this boat cruise the Chesapeake and beyond. No offense to anyone that has money, but, I also wish that sometimes the wealthy would spread the wealth a little bit more to us working stiffs...I need an update to my 20 year old tile counter top kitchen attached to an even older house I just bought...oh, and the T-111 siding that is failing and allows it to rain inside the house when it is raining outside....and the stbd aft window in my 42 year old boat leaks....But, I own a boat, it is floating, and I could go sailing tomorrow if it wasn't cold as shit and snowing here in the morning!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
savoir 219 Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 Chances are that the next thing we see about this boat will be a " For Sale " advertisement. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kent H 109 Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 I like the design. But I really like the proposed redesign with the absolutely sweet interior helm and lounge. Perfect for East Coast North America. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sail4beer 3,413 Posted February 20, 2019 Share Posted February 20, 2019 10 hours ago, Hike, Bitches! said: Too bad, I was looking forward to seeing this boat cruise the Chesapeake and beyond. No offense to anyone that has money, but, I also wish that sometimes the wealthy would spread the wealth a little bit more to us working stiffs...I need an update to my 20 year old tile counter top kitchen attached to an even older house I just bought...oh, and the T-111 siding that is failing and allows it to rain inside the house when it is raining outside....and the stbd aft window in my 42 year old boat leaks....But, I own a boat, it is floating, and I could go sailing tomorrow if I WASN’T SO DAMN LAZY! FIFY! Get to work. The T-111 isn’t gonna mind a little duct tape for a few years. Get it off the boat after you go sailing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kdh 99 Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 On 9/14/2018 at 2:21 PM, Cruisin Loser said: At this point I'm as interested in seeing @kdh's new bass. Looking for news about Catari and realized I'd never posted the finished bass pic. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sail4beer 3,413 Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 Nice Alembic! I like the clean fretboard without the inlays, it must play like butter Quote Link to post Share on other sites
eliboat 585 Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 Look at this awesome Pacific Seacraft SouthSea 61 I found on YachtWorld! https://www.yachtworld.com/boats/2021/pacific-seacraft-southsea-61-2934779/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rasputin22 3,493 Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 1 hour ago, kdh said: Looking for news about Catari and realized I'd never posted the finished bass pic. I hope that bass gets played more than the CATARI gets sailed... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kolibri 464 Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 Some cool guitars and basses on this thread. Here's my Grosh ElectraJet Custom. I freakin' love this guitar. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cruisin Loser 2,664 Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 On November 5, 2020 at 8:06 AM, kdh said: Looking for news about Catari and realized I'd never posted the finished bass pic. At the other end of the scale, our bassist is using a Gretch China made short scale I found on Craigslist for $100. That is a truly beautiful instrument. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bob Perry 1,333 Posted November 6, 2020 Author Share Posted November 6, 2020 Beautiful bass KDH. This is my custom PRS made for me by Paul Reed Smith in exchange for some design work I did for him. I toured the factory, told him what I had in mind and just left the details to Paul. It's a very nice ax. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cruisin Loser 2,664 Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 30 minutes ago, Bob Perry said: Beautiful bass KDH. This is my custom PRS made for me by Paul Reed Smith in exchange for some design work I did for him. I toured the factory, told him what I had in mind and just left the details to Paul. It's a very nice ax. What a beauty! PRS notoriously hates building lefties, there are only a handful of lefty hollow bodies like yours, all custom orders. The one I tried out had a price tag of $10,500 after the discount was figured in. It was a lovely guitar, played beautifully. Those intonated stop bar tailpieces work really well. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
On The Hard 451 Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 Envy is one of the seven deadly sins, but I confess I do envy you folks with musical gifts (Honed through years of practice...I get it!) All I've got is my voice, which I think sounds awesome in the car, although my wife begs to differ.. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
savoir 219 Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 On 11/6/2020 at 2:59 AM, eliboat said: Look at this awesome Pacific Seacraft SouthSea 61 I found on YachtWorld! https://www.yachtworld.com/boats/2021/pacific-seacraft-southsea-61-2934779/ Wow ! That didn't half take a long time to appear but no surprise though. This is a truly awful time to sell a boat like that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ishmael 10,574 Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 7 minutes ago, savoir said: Wow ! That didn't half take a long time to appear but no surprise though. This is a truly awful time to sell a boat like that. They aren't selling Catari. They are trolling for a buyer of #2 to profit from the moulds. I wonder if Catari could be bought at a discount, not that I could afford the oil changes. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
savoir 219 Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 I can help with the toothpicks. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
eliboat 585 Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 7 hours ago, savoir said: Wow ! That didn't half take a long time to appear but no surprise though. This is a truly awful time to sell a boat like that. It’s actually a great time to be selling a luxury yacht. The marketplace has been completely picked through during covid. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bob Perry 1,333 Posted November 7, 2020 Author Share Posted November 7, 2020 Talking to the owner of CATARI he gives no indication the boat is for sale. Never has. Launch was set for March. March became a bit weird, to say the last, and it was put off. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SloopJonB 12,578 Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 I doubt many people could even afford the past few years of storage charges for that boat, let alone the purchase price. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sledracr 907 Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 "Hull number one is sold and nearly complete." <lol> I love marketing-speak... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SloopJonB 12,578 Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 If they were pro's it would have read "Hull number one is sold and 85% complete." 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
longy 850 Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 I'm still available to run all the commissioning/sea trial/new boat delivery testing/sailing! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TwoLegged 2,238 Posted December 29, 2021 Share Posted December 29, 2021 It's over a year since there has been any news of Catari. How long before she hits the 10years-in-storage mark? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ishmael 10,574 Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 It's a shame if she's just being a dust bunny in a shed. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SloopJonB 12,578 Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 Looks like she's gonna be quite a barn find for the next owner. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Russell Brown 1,235 Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 16 hours ago, Ishmael said: It's a shame if she's just being a dust bunny in a shed. There's no shame in taking a break. Sometimes other things need to be done, such as making a living. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rasputin22 3,493 Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 On 12/29/2021 at 4:39 AM, TwoLegged said: It's over a year since there has been any news of Catari. How long before she hits the 10years-in-storage mark? The first time I laid eyes on CATARI, was the morning of the Boston Marathon Bombing and the hull and deck mouldings were complete! I just went back to the early days on my involvement on the project which was the last stretch to the hull by extending the transom by a couple of feet to 62 feet. Bob told me that when he first started on actually designing the CATARI it was to only be 47 feet LOA! My earliest files I can find are the last week of April 2012 so I don't know when the 10 year mark actually starts. I'll look up the hull CAD file I sent to PSOV (Precision Shapes of Virginia) who milled the plug/mold as that seems to be the equivalent to the traditional 'laying of the keel'. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rasputin22 3,493 Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 17 minutes ago, Russell Brown said: There's no shame in taking a break. Sometimes other things need to be done, such as making a living. That is a stretch of the term Russ! This was at the end of my second week on the job and the basic hull, deck and house modeling was completed. Dated April 27,2012 Looks like I had the tooling hull file ready a month later. Catari Hull ONLY V4 05-24-2012 R4 I think I was working in Rhino3D v5 at the time but I was asked to save as a Version 4 to run the big CNC 5 axis routers. Bob and I were amazed at how fair the black gloss hull was that we first saw on April 15 2013 (Patriots Day). Some of the dates and stages are getting a bit foggy after so long! 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
accnick 1,741 Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 3 minutes ago, Rasputin22 said: That is a stretch of the term Russ! It took me 10 years to finish and launch my boat from the arrival of a 40' bare hull in my backyard. Things like making a living do get in the way, sometimes for long periods of time. I never stopped working on it, but when you also have a full-time job, things can take forever. In the case of Catari, it's a major project costing major money, no matter what the owner's financial position is. Even on a conventional factory construction schedule, it could easily three years from finished drawings to finished boat. Despite the intention for this to be a series-produced boat, hull number one is essentially as time consuming as a one-off custom. Maybe more so if there are numerous change orders along the way, and even more so if the desire is to create tooling for various parts of the boat for use a series-produced boat. I would love to see Catari finished. It looks like a spectacular boat. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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