hoppy 618 Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 On 3/8/2017 at 3:52 PM, Swanno said: Nuzulu - the 30 odd footer? That did a Hobart? Yes, it is at Fremantle Sailing Club. Haven't seen it move for years. It's for sale on gumtree https://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/fremantle/sail-boats/yacht-nuzulu-stienman-31/1196488760 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PIL66 - XL2 927 Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 https://www.boatsales.com.au/boats/details/1979-davidson-42/SSE-AD-5828052/?Cr=1&psq=(And.Service.Boatsales._.(Or.SiloType.Dealer used boats._.SiloType.Private used boats._.SiloType.Demo and near new boats.))&pso=0&pss=Premium Quote Link to post Share on other sites
charisma94 261 Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 ^ The poor old thing... what a mess. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hoppy 618 Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 1 hour ago, PIL66 - XL2 said: https://www.boatsales.com.au/boats/details/1979-davidson-42/SSE-AD-5828052/?Cr=1&psq=(And.Service.Boatsales._.(Or.SiloType.Dealer used boats._.SiloType.Private used boats._.SiloType.Demo and near new boats.))&pso=0&pss=Premium I'm sure it's been seen here before. Definitely been for sale for a while. Could this be the original design rudder? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pulpit 193 Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 5 hours ago, PIL66 - XL2 said: https://www.boatsales.com.au/boats/details/1979-davidson-42/SSE-AD-5828052/?Cr=1&psq=(And.Service.Boatsales._.(Or.SiloType.Dealer used boats._.SiloType.Private used boats._.SiloType.Demo and near new boats.))&pso=0&pss=Premium 3 hours ago, hoppy said: I'm sure it's been seen here before. Definitely been for sale for a while. Could this be the original design rudder? She had a refit and some major work on her about 18 months or so ago at “The Boats” at Coomera. She was in the yard for a few months or so. Pulpit Quote Link to post Share on other sites
duncan (the other one) 670 Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 4 hours ago, hoppy said: I'm sure it's been seen here before. Definitely been for sale for a while. Could this be the original design rudder? It does look weird -- seems like it belongs further aft behind the keel extension, however the shots of the internal framing suggest that's the original spot. Pendragon had a similar configuration (from RBSailing) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hoppy 618 Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 It seems that it was stolen in 2017 https://www.news-mail.com.au/news/yacht-reported-stolen-sighted-off-bundy/3171449/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ALL@SEA 282 Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 And making Witchdoctor look modern: https://yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/alan-buchanan-34-sequana/233086 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rushman 240 Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 On 10 May 2019 at 11:34 PM, hoppy said: It's for sale on gumtree https://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/fremantle/sail-boats/yacht-nuzulu-stienman-31/1196488760 Nuzulu... Wasn't it one of three, sailed out of Brighton, owned by Harry ??? Paging @SPORTSCAR Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SPORTSCAR 717 Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 2 hours ago, Rushman said: Nuzulu... Wasn't it one of three, sailed out of Brighton, owned by Harry ??? Paging @SPORTSCAR Yes, NZ was one of Harry H's rides. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
savoir 182 Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 21 hours ago, hoppy said: I'm sure it's been seen here before. Definitely been for sale for a while. Could this be the original design rudder? That's the second Sweet Caroline I think there were three in total Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SPORTSCAR 717 Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 22 hours ago, hoppy said: I'm sure it's been seen here before. Definitely been for sale for a while. Could this be the original design rudder? So that's where the saloon table went! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rushman 240 Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 15 hours ago, SPORTSCAR said: Yes, NZ was one of Harry H's rides. Thanks Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DickDastardly 250 Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 1980 Clipper Cup, apparently. Nice hair. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jack_sparrow 7,663 Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 ..and lots of winches and lots of string. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Grogo 6 Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 1 hour ago, DickDastardly said: 1980 Clipper Cup, apparently. Nice hair. And the famous Joe English trimming genoa, what a sailor and what a guy, now doing the big yacht race upstairs Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jack_sparrow 7,663 Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 1 hour ago, Grogo said: And the famous Joe English trimming genoa, what a sailor and what a guy, now doing the big yacht race upstairs The Irishman was back there in 84 on Hitchhiker incl Chas to provide the humour. Plenty of breeze and that warm deep blue colour of Hawaii water is unique and like a magnet. Big loss when Pan Am then Kenwood pulled the pin. I ended up killing some time poking around Ireland waiting for Cowes and Fasnet the following year thanks to his advice. Taken too early. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Couta 503 Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 Saw what has happened to the old Sweet Caroline in an earlier post...criminal neglect and stupidity. I loved that boat and put her around too many racetracks in her time....one classic moment was in an admirals selection on Port Philip Bay ....the first time we were allowed to officially use our Hercules or Horizon (?) sat nav....heading up towards the rec mark off Arthurs Seat, the navigator was in the companionway mid sentence telling us we should be there....when we hit the mark stem-on!! Seems the boat ahead had also hit it and taken out the light!! Couldn't argue that the new technology wasn't accurate! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gweudo in oz 10 Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 On 12/3/2018 at 11:04 PM, Occsail said: Whole tribe of IOR boats at RPAYC back in the day . Middle Harbour Express ( Original Gold Coast Express with centre board - Davidson ) Hot August Night - Lexen ? Anduril, Granny Knot, Dubois 36 sister ships, few Farr 40's. Leroy Brown - Davidson 34, Kings Cross - Davidson 36, Ex Tension - Davidson 36 Seaquesta was a Dubois. Alloy hull, real truck. Few half tonners - Beach Inspector, Public Nuisance - Dubois Sequesta was originally designed as a 2 tonner, but during the design and build phase the Farr 40's 1 tonners came out and started whipping in IOR she was altered during the build to try to counter but it never really worked. she was shortened to 41.5 feet from 44 and dropped to about 1 and 3/4 ton. Nicely built boat but hard to sail with a tiller downwind in a breeze. (I actually preferred to steer her with the windward rail dipped to windward a fair bit - much to the fear of the crew!) (gave you a bit more time as the stern loaded up from the following waves to stop her broaching!) Historic rumour is that Alf Neates (owner that had her built) was sitting at the Nav station watching the live news cross on a portable tv during the clipper cup in Hawaii when she lost her rig and saw it on tv as it happened. stuck his head out of the hatch and told the crew why it had happened! She lived at Sandy for a couple of years late 90's early 2000's then went to Hobart I think. Be interested to see her now? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Couta 503 Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 1 hour ago, Gweudo in oz said: Sequesta was originally designed as a 2 tonner, but during the design and build phase the Farr 40's 1 tonners came out and started whipping in IOR she was altered during the build to try to counter but it never really worked. she was shortened to 41.5 feet from 44 and dropped to about 1 and 3/4 ton. Nicely built boat but hard to sail with a tiller downwind in a breeze. (I actually preferred to steer her with the windward rail dipped to windward a fair bit - much to the fear of the crew!) (gave you a bit more time as the stern loaded up from the following waves to stop her broaching!) Historic rumour is that Alf Neates (owner that had her built) was sitting at the Nav station watching the live news cross on a portable tv during the clipper cup in Hawaii when she lost her rig and saw it on tv as it happened. stuck his head out of the hatch and told the crew why it had happened! She lived at Sandy for a couple of years late 90's early 2000's then went to Hobart I think. Be interested to see her now? Yeah...nah! Sorry to bust that myth but I was onboard when the rig went for a swim at Clipper Cup...slo-mo over the side.. in the invitation race(?)...but there is truth in the fact that Sir Alf Untidy rarely left his throne at the nav station....and there is truth to the fact that she got a little squirrely on a square run....as a young Chris Dickson found out mid Molokai channel...middle of the night....he (and I ) were recently out of 470's and he seriously asked if we should get on the keel to bring her back up! Sequesta was buried to the safety lines and backed out of the wave before laying on her side for a few minutes...but that rig stayed in!!! I had the pleasure of sailing her back to Oz that year...the beginning of my delivery career! Good Times! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SPORTSCAR 717 Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 11 hours ago, Gweudo in oz said: Sequesta was originally designed as a 2 tonner, but during the design and build phase the Farr 40's 1 tonners came out and started whipping in IOR she was altered during the build to try to counter but it never really worked. she was shortened to 41.5 feet from 44 and dropped to about 1 and 3/4 ton. Nicely built boat but hard to sail with a tiller downwind in a breeze. (I actually preferred to steer her with the windward rail dipped to windward a fair bit - much to the fear of the crew!) (gave you a bit more time as the stern loaded up from the following waves to stop her broaching!) Historic rumour is that Alf Neates (owner that had her built) was sitting at the Nav station watching the live news cross on a portable tv during the clipper cup in Hawaii when she lost her rig and saw it on tv as it happened. stuck his head out of the hatch and told the crew why it had happened! She lived at Sandy for a couple of years late 90's early 2000's then went to Hobart I think. Be interested to see her now? Seaquesta is / was undergoing a refit in Auckland. Owner has posted on here in the past. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gweudo in oz 10 Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 21 hours ago, Couta said: Yeah...nah! Sorry to bust that myth but I was onboard when the rig went for a swim at Clipper Cup...slo-mo over the side.. in the invitation race(?)...but there is truth in the fact that Sir Alf Untidy rarely left his throne at the nav station....and there is truth to the fact that she got a little squirrely on a square run....as a young Chris Dickson found out mid Molokai channel...middle of the night....he (and I ) were recently out of 470's and he seriously asked if we should get on the keel to bring her back up! Sequesta was buried to the safety lines and backed out of the wave before laying on her side for a few minutes...but that rig stayed in!!! I had the pleasure of sailing her back to Oz that year...the beginning of my delivery career! Good Times! Outa, so you must be responsible for the graffiti in the engine box! - " bleed, bleed, f$@ken bleed!" 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lahana 22 Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 On 12/4/2018 at 9:20 AM, Corlen said: Lexen 35. It is in Hobart at the DSS. Mate of mine owns it now and occasionally racing. I remember that lovely boat... the guys on board were real gentlemen. I enjoyed sailing with them back then. Think the hull is now painted white, used to be clear cold molded, the wood looked great with the yellowy/beige deck and stripes. Was a great few seasons sailing her! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Couta 503 Posted June 1, 2019 Share Posted June 1, 2019 17 hours ago, Gweudo in oz said: Outa, so you must be responsible for the graffiti in the engine box! - " bleed, bleed, f$@ken bleed!" It was a marinized VW Golf from memory...and yep...it had to be bled..particularly after I trusted the fuel in Kiribati and clogged the filters with metal swarf....head down in the engine for a few hours with that one!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shanghaisailor 1,440 Posted June 2, 2019 Share Posted June 2, 2019 A couple of pics from 2016 Sydney Hobart, UBOX, formerly Pretty Fly III. A pretty good race record in the Sydney Hobart including Div 0 winner in 2014 as Pretty Fly then 3rd overall IRC and 1st overall ORCi in 2016. Currently in Hong Kong and is looking for a new home. If I have the Wonga I would have her myself, she is a weapon. With perhaps one of the best records over the past 10 years in the Sydney Hobart with 14 x top 10 finishes across the Cookson 50 fleet compared to only 4 in the 100 footers (and 3 of those were WOXI). In fact the Cookson 50 design has won just about everything. Mascalzone Latino the Middle Sea Race; Kuka3 the RORC Transatlantic Race; Chieftain the Fastnet Race and Victoire the Sydney Hobart. I cannot recall ANY design that has had such a consistent record, surely one of Bruce Farr and Russell Bowler's finest. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Curious 399 Posted June 2, 2019 Share Posted June 2, 2019 On 5/21/2019 at 3:07 PM, DickDastardly said: 1980 Clipper Cup, apparently. Nice hair. Bastard. You just rubbed in the fact that the only time I sailed on her I was young and had hair. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Curious 399 Posted June 2, 2019 Share Posted June 2, 2019 On 5/30/2019 at 9:05 PM, Gweudo in oz said: Sequesta was originally designed as a 2 tonner, but during the design and build phase the Farr 40's 1 tonners came out and started whipping in IOR she was altered during the build to try to counter but it never really worked. she was shortened to 41.5 feet from 44 and dropped to about 1 and 3/4 ton. Nicely built boat but hard to sail with a tiller downwind in a breeze. (I actually preferred to steer her with the windward rail dipped to windward a fair bit - much to the fear of the crew!) (gave you a bit more time as the stern loaded up from the following waves to stop her broaching!) Historic rumour is that Alf Neates (owner that had her built) was sitting at the Nav station watching the live news cross on a portable tv during the clipper cup in Hawaii when she lost her rig and saw it on tv as it happened. stuck his head out of the hatch and told the crew why it had happened! She lived at Sandy for a couple of years late 90's early 2000's then went to Hobart I think. Be interested to see her now? ????? Seaquesta was '81 and she did the Hobart that year rating 2 ton (.8190 TCF) ; a few ticks above Hitchhiker which was the world 2 ton champion that year. Seaquest also rated a tick higher than Police Car, her inspiration, which was also a true 2-tonner and had done well at the 1979 2 ton worlds. The Farr 40s came out '83 and rated about 1.5ft less. The 44 foot 2 tonners came out later, when the 2 ton limit was lifted from 32.0 to 34.5. She did OK years later out of Pittwater with Peter Nicholson. I sailed her a few times and I recall him saying that he reckoned that with her age allowance she was as fast on IOR and over the line as the Farr 40s in medium conditions, but not as good at the extremes. He later shifted to the Farr 40 Queensland Maid, another boat that was interesting on the tiller during hard runs. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SPORTSCAR 717 Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 On 5/30/2019 at 10:48 PM, Couta said: Yeah...nah! Sorry to bust that myth but I was onboard when the rig went for a swim at Clipper Cup...slo-mo over the side.. in the invitation race(?)...but there is truth in the fact that Sir Alf Untidy rarely left his throne at the nav station....and there is truth to the fact that she got a little squirrely on a square run....as a young Chris Dickson found out mid Molokai channel...middle of the night....he (and I ) were recently out of 470's and he seriously asked if we should get on the keel to bring her back up! Sequesta was buried to the safety lines and backed out of the wave before laying on her side for a few minutes...but that rig stayed in!!! I had the pleasure of sailing her back to Oz that year...the beginning of my delivery career! Good Times! I happened to pass through the bar at RGYC last Saturday afternoon and saw this action shot of Seaquesta hanging above the door near the Notice Board. From back in the days when the Advertiser Trophy racing was held in the late afternoon south westerlies around triangular courses with real shy-to-shy gybes* in pressure right out the front of the yacht club on Corio Bay for all to see, not halfway to Port Arlington where even the Hubble Telescope would be troubled: * I'm guessing many bowmen these days would never have done an S2S gybe let alone an S2S gybe peel. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Couta 503 Posted June 18, 2019 Share Posted June 18, 2019 ^^^ Nice one SportsCar^^^ I'll have to check that one out next time I'm at RGYC....not sure exactly what's happening here as nobody is on the rail and the IOR boats were notorious for spinning out .....and you're right about S2S gybes and the sometimes struggle to lay the gybe mark....good times! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TUBBY 324 Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 S2S gybe peel! Can't ever remember being quite that silly, mind you there are quite a few things I don't remember from that period. Did once roll a Holland two tonner in, well did that a lot more than once, but this time it was in the middle of a gybe peel. That lead to an interesting little period of of bad language while trying to untwist two spinnakers and associated sheets/braces etc. The windex never stayed dusty very long on those boats! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Recidivist 614 Posted June 19, 2019 Share Posted June 19, 2019 9 hours ago, TUBBY said: ... in the middle of a gybe peel. That lead to an interesting little period of of bad language while trying to untwist two spinnakers and associated sheets/braces etc. "Special sailing words of encouragement" - Fuck, those were the days! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Couta 503 Posted June 20, 2019 Share Posted June 20, 2019 Got caught in a Gybe Peel on the Geelong passage race on Joint Venture....full crew with a couple of Americas Cup additions doing try outs for the Admirals team....the front hit mid-manoeuvre resulting in the kite, halyard, sheets & braces (complete with titanium clips) all running over the side....with Freckle (sailmaker) helming, Ron (the owner) told us to "keep our eyes forward...." as the entire mess disappeared from sight. Despite the screw up, the race result was Ok...but things got better when a tail ender of the fleet walked up to Ron at the bar and told him he'd recovered the kite and all the gear!!!! Ron was known for his generosity. I'm sure the crew of the good samaritan didn't have to buy any beers that regatta! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hoppy 618 Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 On 5/9/2019 at 6:21 AM, Third Reef said: Sure is. Metung is back home in Metung for restoration https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-08-06/metung-returns-to-gippsland-lakes-for-restoration/11385550 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gorn FRANTIC!! 406 Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 Police Car up for grabs now for anyone who's brave enough. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hoppy 618 Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 Going to be listed shortly Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jethrow 185 Posted August 31, 2019 Share Posted August 31, 2019 Nooooo!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
seaquesta 2 Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 On 6/4/2019 at 4:00 PM, SPORTSCAR said: I happened to pass through the bar at RGYC last Saturday afternoon and saw this action shot of Seaquesta hanging above the door near the Notice Board. From back in the days when the Advertiser Trophy racing was held in the late afternoon south westerlies around triangular courses with real shy-to-shy gybes* in pressure right out the front of the yacht club on Corio Bay for all to see, not halfway to Port Arlington where even the Hubble Telescope would be troubled: * I'm guessing many bowmen these days would never have done an S2S gybe let alone an S2S gybe peel. I just resurrected my login from 4 years ago after spotting all the news. Thanks all, it's great to see some bits of history on the old girl Heres Seaquesta now. She was refitted in Auckland a few years ago and is now a family cruiser that does a few rum races. The previous QLD owner had renamed her 'Lipstick on your Collar', so I restored her dignity and changed it back to Seaquesta. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DtM 570 Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 Another one gone to NZ. Great refit, well done 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Recidivist 614 Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 She looks great, congratulations. A family cruiser with triple in-line spreaders, runners AND checks - what's not to love! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SCANAS 526 Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 https://yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/offshore-performance-cruiser/235809 is this Gusto? The one that sat in Adelaide for years? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Couta 503 Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 6 hours ago, seaquesta said: I just resurrected my login from 4 years ago after spotting all the news. Thanks all, it's great to see some bits of history on the old girl Heres Seaquesta now. She was refitted in Auckland a few years ago and is now a family cruiser that does a few rum races. The previous QLD owner had renamed her 'Lipstick on your Collar', so I restored her dignity and changed it back to Seaquesta. Sweet dreams are made of this....congratulations on a fabulous refurb! i sailed her back from Honoulu in the 82 Clipper Cup as a first time delivery skipper - aged 23 (had my birthday in Kiribati)...and I'm somewhere in that early corio bay shot posted by Sportscar....Alf would be very pleased with everything you've done! Again congratulations! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ALL@SEA 282 Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 13 hours ago, SCANAS said: https://yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/offshore-performance-cruiser/235809 is this Gusto? The one that sat in Adelaide for years? There are (were?) two Gustos, one (the first, I think) is in Tassie, and is the former Whitbred, then Open 60. I think the second is the former Langman Open 60/66 Xena/Grundig/AAP?. The boat you're referring to is (I think) the former "Broomstick", which as far as I recall was never in the same league as Langman's beast. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PIL66 - XL2 927 Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 13 hours ago, SCANAS said: https://yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/offshore-performance-cruiser/235809 is this Gusto? The one that sat in Adelaide for years? 17 minutes ago, ALL@SEA said: There are (were?) two Gustos, one (the first, I think) is in Tassie, and is the former Whitbred, then Open 60. I think the second is the former Langman Open 60/66 Xena/Grundig/AAP?. The boat you're referring to is (I think) the former "Broomstick", which as far as I recall was never in the same league as Langman's beast. This is the Ex Broomstick ... Michael Cranich bought the boat and modded it at the old Halverson yard on the parra river at Putney.... It had been the Russian open 60 round the world boat. The guy got to Australia and hit the beach. First S to H was in original config. We retired just after the tornado with head foil issues. A bunch of us did work on it and it became Broomstick / Foxtel. We called it the Kursk because of it's low freeboard which made it wet. We had some good rides downwind on it which are on film from Gary Ticehurst and Scott Ally somewhere... The two wheels I had build at my place from titanium buy my welder. We beat the Volvo 60's that year from memory and it was blowing 30 from the north.. Good times but not sure it had enough head room for a cruiser.... Musto was a very flexi hull... scary in fact... Xena another boat altogether 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SCANAS 526 Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 The one they cut through the middle & reduced the beam yeah? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
minch 4 Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 1 hour ago, SCANAS said: The one they cut through the middle & reduced the beam yeah? The first gusto was the unfinished hull of the "Elle racing" whitbread 60 (don't think it was the one below- which I'm pretty sure was just a Gen1 boat with promo stickers). But they cut it down the middle and significantly increased the beam I'm pretty sure. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SCANAS 526 Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 So they chopped it up overseas to make it into an open 60? I thought one arrived here as an open 60 but was cut up? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ALL@SEA 282 Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 This is the result of that surgery. She's still in Hobart as far as I know. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
minch 4 Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 1 hour ago, SCANAS said: So they chopped it up overseas to make it into an open 60? I thought one arrived here as an open 60 but was cut up? This article suggests the Elle hull was built by McConaghy's- so the hull was always in Australia: "So what happened to the money? Some went to pay the crew Harvey hired for the challenge, though (they claim) not enough – the trial yacht was “arrested” in Sydney when they claimed more than $100,000 in back pay and expenses. Some went to McConaghy’s famous boat-yard in Mona Vale, where the half-built Elle boat which should have been launched last March is now begging for a buyer to complete it, at a cost of a cool $1 million." http://benhills.com/articles/scams-scoundrels/the-man-who-sank-elle/ So i think it goes: Gusto 1 was a whitbread 60 that was cut up (in australia) to be an open 60. Gusto 2 was the old AAPT/Xena/Grundig etc- which was an open 60 that was extended to 66ft from memory Broomstick was a russian open 60 that got reworked once it ended up here. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PIL66 - XL2 927 Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 On 9/13/2019 at 4:13 PM, minch said: This article suggests the Elle hull was built by McConaghy's- so the hull was always in Australia: "So what happened to the money? Some went to pay the crew Harvey hired for the challenge, though (they claim) not enough – the trial yacht was “arrested” in Sydney when they claimed more than $100,000 in back pay and expenses. Some went to McConaghy’s famous boat-yard in Mona Vale, where the half-built Elle boat which should have been launched last March is now begging for a buyer to complete it, at a cost of a cool $1 million." http://benhills.com/articles/scams-scoundrels/the-man-who-sank-elle/ So i think it goes: Gusto 1 was a whitbread 60 that was cut up (in australia) to be an open 60. Gusto 2 was the old AAPT/Xena/Grundig etc- which was an open 60 that was extended to 66ft from memory Broomstick was a russian open 60 that got reworked once it ended up here. Gusto was yellow from memory and I didn't believe it was Xena but my memory is fading fast.... John Biddlecombe had a lot to do with it from memory Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Last Post 101 Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 On 9/12/2019 at 3:09 PM, seaquesta said: I just resurrected my login from 4 years ago after spotting all the news. Thanks all, it's great to see some bits of history on the old girl Heres Seaquesta now. She was refitted in Auckland a few years ago and is now a family cruiser that does a few rum races. The previous QLD owner had renamed her 'Lipstick on your Collar', so I restored her dignity and changed it back to Seaquesta. Last time I saw someone lying on the floor of Seaquesta was too many years ago, in Geelong. The young lady concerned was a bit older than that one and she wasn't in very good condition. Blonde chick, sister of one of Alfies crew IIRC. Long time ago now so no names to protect the guilty. To her current owner: congratulations you've got her looking really nice now, shame about her older Dubois sister Police Car. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gorn FRANTIC!! 406 Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 $7000 Will get you Police Car as is where is right now. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hoppy 618 Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 22 minutes ago, Gorn FRANTIC!! said: $7000 Will get you Police Car as is where is right now. just found the gumtree listing is showing sold. I hope it was bought locally for restoration. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jason AUS 272 Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 On 9/13/2019 at 4:13 PM, minch said: This article suggests the Elle hull was built by McConaghy's- so the hull was always in Australia: "So what happened to the money? Some went to pay the crew Harvey hired for the challenge, though (they claim) not enough – the trial yacht was “arrested” in Sydney when they claimed more than $100,000 in back pay and expenses. Some went to McConaghy’s famous boat-yard in Mona Vale, where the half-built Elle boat which should have been launched last March is now begging for a buyer to complete it, at a cost of a cool $1 million." http://benhills.com/articles/scams-scoundrels/the-man-who-sank-elle/ So i think it goes: Gusto 1 was a whitbread 60 that was cut up (in australia) to be an open 60. Gusto 2 was the old AAPT/Xena/Grundig etc- which was an open 60 that was extended to 66ft from memory Broomstick was a russian open 60 that got reworked once it ended up here. Gusto 1 (aka RSL Com) was finished at Jarkan (Kanga Birtles’ place down at Jervis Bay). And yes, she was banana yellow when launched. It was a John Biddlecombe project. Big on hopes and dreams, short on cash - so she never made it overseas. Literally... on her first short handed race from Sydney to Auckland Biddles rammed the red channel marker off Lady Bay and retired due to hull delamination. IIRC the re-use of the Elle racing VO60 panels meant she was was a different shape from the European Open 60’s and they ended up being the gen 1 canting keel boats, so her 1998 launch as a water ballasted boat put her behind from day 1. Gusto 2 is the ex Magna Data / AAPT / Xena / Grundig. She started life as an Andy Dovell (Murray Burns Dovell) Open 60, but I can’t remember who for. She was red when launched, then lengthened with a 6 foot sugar scoop, a silver and shark’s mouth paint job, a turbo appendage package, and deck vents for her water ballast tanks that you could stick your entire torso into... At that point she was ridiculously quick. Broomstick (advertised above)... as PIL said, originally a Russian Open 60 but was Michael Cranitch and company’s replacement for the Lavranos maxi Marchioness (ex Parker Pens) sometime after the 1998 Hobart race. IIRC she did her first Hobart race as purchased, and bets were that if she got as far as Bondi it’d be a miracle. Broomstick then went into the shed at Putney (PIL?) for a 6 foot stern and deck extension, and was modified using parts (rig, pedestal and wheels) from the burnt wreck of Foxtel Amazon with labour provided by the legendary Carl (Capt. Carlos) White and (bugger me) John Biddlecombe. Among more interesting quirks of the boat was the off centreline log. Going uphill on starboard tack if you rolled her over far enough the log would come out of the water and the speedo would read 0.00 kts. We laid her down under kite from 20 kts to zero once or twice, and the centrifugal force had people wondering if the 6 foot extension was going to spontaneously detach itself (with runner winches attached)... props to Carl White though, he was a bloody artist with composites. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TUBBY 324 Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 ex Magna Data / AAPT / Xena / Grundig. She started life as an Andy Dovell (Murray Burns Dovell) Open 60, but I can’t remember who for. This was the boat Kanga built to do the round the world race. Flexible is fast! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jason AUS 272 Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 1 hour ago, TUBBY said: ex Magna Data / AAPT / Xena / Grundig. She started life as an Andy Dovell (Murray Burns Dovell) Open 60, but I can’t remember who for. This was the boat Kanga built to do the round the world race. Flexible is fast! Of course she was. I’m a dickhead. I think I have a photo of her in the shed next to Biddlecombe’s boat. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jackolantern 473 Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 What a freaking scary looking boat: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SCANAS 526 Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 So was it Broomstick or Gusto1 that sat in Adelaide for years. After this refresh I think it was Broomstick?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TUBBY 324 Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 3 hours ago, jackolantern said: What a freaking scary looking boat: Even more frightening downwind with everything up. Looked like an escaped 18 footer that had found the ocean. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DickDastardly 250 Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 52 minutes ago, TUBBY said: Even more frightening downwind with everything up. Looked like an escaped 18 footer that had found the ocean. I loved the retracting rudder blades - very cool. Overall a very cool boat but one you could only effectively operate if you owned a boatyard. Thankfully Sean does. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hoppy 618 Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 Did the RP60 Wild OatsJoe ever do the S2H? It's for sale now https://www.raceyachts.com.au/yacht/237890/reichel-pugh-60-canting-keel-extensive-refit-2019/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bill E Goat 301 Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 6 minutes ago, hoppy said: Did the RP60 Wild OatsJoe ever do the S2H? It's for sale now https://www.raceyachts.com.au/yacht/237890/reichel-pugh-60-canting-keel-extensive-refit-2019/ Started oe and got as far as Botany Bay when it lost all electronics, supposedly due to a lightening strike during the week. At least they didn't blame the TV Chopper Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jason AUS 272 Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 6 hours ago, hoppy said: Did the RP60 Wild OatsJoe ever do the S2H? It's for sale now https://www.raceyachts.com.au/yacht/237890/reichel-pugh-60-canting-keel-extensive-refit-2019/ Yep, 2004 IIRC. She’s been for sale for about 3 years now, so props to the owner for spending the cash to install DSS on a boat he’s trying to be rid of. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hoppy 618 Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 Did this WO replaced the Farr 43? before WOX & WOIX? Could be a good buy for a powerball winner.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jason AUS 272 Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 8 minutes ago, hoppy said: Did this WO replaced the Farr 43? before WOX & WOIX? Could be a good buy for a powerball winner.... Not quite. The Farr 43 was being campaigned by Bruce Foye and Hicko back in 1992/93. This boat helped lift the Admiral’s Cup in 2003, And was then replaced by the 66’ WOX and subsequently the 100’ (98’) WOXi. What came in between? I honestly don’t know. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hoppy 618 Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 Just seen that the new owners of the Farr 43 have given it a new paint job\ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jackolantern 473 Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 Sweet Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DickDastardly 250 Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 12 hours ago, Jason AUS said: Not quite. The Farr 43 was being campaigned by Bruce Foye and Hicko back in 1992/93. This boat helped lift the Admiral’s Cup in 2003, And was then replaced by the 66’ WOX and subsequently the 100’ (98’) WOXi. What came in between? I honestly don’t know. Another Duchess was in there somewhere, latterly Talent 2. Might'a been before WOXIX Quote Link to post Share on other sites
duncan (the other one) 670 Posted September 22, 2019 Share Posted September 22, 2019 On 9/20/2019 at 1:33 AM, jackolantern said: Sweet ++ good to see Wild Oats/Rose continue to get love... and back to the original name! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AussieSailorChick 2 Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 On 9/19/2019 at 6:47 AM, jackolantern said: What a freaking scary looking boat: That boat was the most fun ever full stop. Equal parts exhilarating and terrifying. I will always always always be grateful for those years of yachting on the Xena girl! 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jason AUS 272 Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 On 9/19/2019 at 8:04 AM, SCANAS said: So was it Broomstick or Gusto1 that sat in Adelaide for years. After this refresh I think it was Broomstick?? Gusto 1. Broomstick spent some time sailing as Dodo for Adrian Dunphy (spelling?) in a Hobart race or two, a Coffs race and was then sold to NZ, cruise-I-fied and is now for sale again. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mahina 13 Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 On 20 September 2019 at 8:27 AM, DickDastardly said: Another Duchess was in there somewhere, latterly Talent 2. Might'a been before WOXIX On 19 September 2019 at 8:13 PM, Jason AUS said: Not quite. The Farr 43 was being campaigned by Bruce Foye and Hicko back in 1992/93. This boat helped lift the Admiral’s Cup in 2003, And was then replaced by the 66’ WOX and subsequently the 100’ (98’) WOXi. What came in between? I honestly don’t know. WO ll was a Randall 34 powerboat in Middle Harbour, WO lll was a Swan 53 based in Porto Cervo. There was also a couple of powerboats over the years in Port Cervo, the last one 50 odd foot, Bill Buckle drove her as the tender to WOXl at the maxi worlds, they may have counted as WO's as well. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ALL@SEA 282 Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 Its official:( Hopefully she finds love and stays out of the Whitsunday charter fleet... https://yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/jutson-80/238477 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rushman 240 Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 On 26 September 2019 at 4:33 PM, Jason AUS said: Gusto 1. Broomstick spent some time sailing as Dodo for Adrian Dunphy (spelling?) in a Hobart race or two, a Coffs race and was then sold to NZ, cruise-I-fied and is now for sale again. Broomstick purchased for A66K (?) and taken to NZ... Now wants NZ225K! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SCANAS 526 Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 4 hours ago, Rushman said: Broomstick purchased for A66K (?) and taken to NZ... Now wants NZ225K! I guess it didn’t fulfil his “fast cruiser” criteria after all. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SCANAS 526 Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 6 hours ago, ALL@SEA said: Its official:( Hopefully she finds love and stays out of the Whitsunday charter fleet... https://yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/jutson-80/238477 Small price to pay for a useable Aussie ICON! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TUBBY 324 Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 Might want to compare the Noumea Race record claimed to the build date. She has an illustrious history but that win was her older little sister the Farr 65. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PIL66 - XL2 927 Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 19 hours ago, ALL@SEA said: Its official:( Hopefully she finds love and stays out of the Whitsunday charter fleet... https://yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/jutson-80/238477 The boat is immaculate... It could even be turned into a cruiser with some power winches and furling gear like Bumble Bee 5. The rig and deck layout are very simple... I hope it goes to a good home.. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bill E Goat 301 Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 On 9/29/2019 at 11:56 AM, ALL@SEA said: Its official:( Hopefully she finds love and stays out of the Whitsunday charter fleet... https://yachthub.com/list/yachts-for-sale/used/sail-monohulls/jutson-80/238477 Kudos for George Snow to want an Australian Designed and built boat but she was a well sailed pig. Never won anything against similar sized boats and was the only local Maxi around. Sails listed are all 12 years old so you would have to stump up for a full new set, could be a good fast crusier but 14ft draft might not help The year she won she finished 9 minutes in front of Exile - a 62 footer 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jason AUS 272 Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 12 hours ago, PIL66 - XL2 said: The boat is immaculate... It could even be turned into a cruiser with some power winches and furling gear like Bumble Bee 5. The rig and deck layout are very simple... I hope it goes to a good home.. How about a few acres of teak decking aft? For the ladies? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jason AUS 272 Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 3 hours ago, Bill E Goat said: Kudos for George Snow to want an Australian Designed and built boat but she was a well sailed pig. Never won anything against similar sized boats and was the only local Maxi around. Sails listed are all 12 years old so you would have to stump up for a full new set, could be a good fast crusier but 14ft draft might not help The year she won she finished 9 minutes in front of Exile - a 62 footer To be fair, Exile was one of the boats that put R/P on the map. She was ridiculously quick, and had half the North Sails team on board. If you were looking for a “best Aussie boat of the 90’s” she’s well up there. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ALL@SEA 282 Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 3 minutes ago, Jason AUS said: To be fair, Exile was one of the boats that put R/P on the map. She was ridiculously quick, and had half the North Sails team on board. If you were looking for a “best Aussie boat of the 90’s” she’s well up there. And after breaking the stat and having to sail back after building a good lead... but wasn't she Hong Kong or somewhere? I sailed up the Derwent that year between the two of them on my laser - being tossed about in the spectator wake trying to run square - one of the most frightening sails of my life at that young age! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jason AUS 272 Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 7 minutes ago, ALL@SEA said: And after breaking the stat and having to sail back after building a good lead... but wasn't she Hong Kong or somewhere? I sailed up the Derwent that year between the two of them on my laser - being tossed about in the spectator wake trying to run square - one of the most frightening sails of my life at that young age! She broke the start and was recalled 20 minutes later. She was flagged in Hong Kong as her owner had significant business interests there before the handover. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pulpit 193 Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 13 hours ago, Bill E Goat said: Kudos for George Snow to want an Australian Designed and built boat but she was a well sailed pig. Never won anything against similar sized boats and was the only local Maxi around. Sails listed are all 12 years old so you would have to stump up for a full new set, could be a good fast crusier but 14ft draft might not help The year she won she finished 9 minutes in front of Exile - a 62 footer 9 hours ago, Jason AUS said: To be fair, Exile was one of the boats that put R/P on the map. She was ridiculously quick, and had half the North Sails team on board. If you were looking for a “best Aussie boat of the 90’s” she’s well up there. To be fair to Brindabella, back when she won line Honor’s the Hobart had a upper speed / rating limit that stopped them from piling on the down wind sail area unlike today. You just have to look at how Xena used to be nipping at the heels of the big maxi’s because they were all rating in at the top of the speed limit. I think it was set at 1.600. If you compare the super maxi’s today they all rate in at over 1.900. Exile was a great boat and very sailed that year. Pulpit Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SCARECROW 594 Posted October 1, 2019 Share Posted October 1, 2019 21 hours ago, Bill E Goat said: Kudos for George Snow to want an Australian Designed and built boat but she was a well sailed pig. Never won anything against similar sized boats and was the only local Maxi around. Sails listed are all 12 years old so you would have to stump up for a full new set, could be a good fast crusier but 14ft draft might not help The year she won she finished 9 minutes in front of Exile - a 62 footer IIRC she was also done in by tweaks in the early days of IMS. Primarily relaxation of the rules that tried to steer the fleet to moderate/low tech cruiser racers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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