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That's some big boy sailing right there.  They should put it in the Olympics

So the bimbling is done....and as promised...here's the result. First splash since the refurb. The only question now is "should I get a new AoR boom?" At $1250, it's a question I need to ask myse

I'll give a quick report. It was windy, very windy. A lot of people bailed because Corpus Christi is known as a windy venue. First day , 17-25, big waves very close together. Super Henry goes swimming

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Sailmoore1: I just drag the boat and trolley onto a flatbed trailer and strap the whole thing down with ratchet straps.  It tows fine.  I have an actual finn shaped trailer but I've taken the bunks off and just transport the dolley and boat on the trailer flat.  Just borrow a trailer from someone and you should be okay.  Is this one of the boats Joe is bringing over in the container?

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On 10/4/2017 at 9:00 PM, SailMoore1 said:

Trailer will be a future purchase. I like the old Hobie trailer idea. 

Boat is a 2013 Devoti on trolley.

This is a one time move without a trailer. Boat will be going from San Diego to San Francisco.

Where in SF area?  Come over to the Alameda Riviera and/or PM me to set up some sailing once you get the boat here

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New boat arrives in a few weeks. Just purchased a trailer to bring her north. Thought about different options for transport and decided to get a trailer now as will need it either way. Boat is coming to and will be sailed out of Alameda.

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On 8/13/2016 at 3:14 PM, Rasputin22 said:

I was fortunate enough to be Henry's little gremmie sidekick at the Long Beach Naval Sailing Facility my first year of High School. 1969. What a time it was and Henry had just one the Finn World Cup.

......this sounds like one of those '#MeToo confessions  :lol:

On 5/26/2016 at 7:55 AM, thistle3466 said:

I am in Florida, 6 foot 1, 260 lbs.

...at that size,,yer gonna haveta find something bigger.  :mellow:

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11 hours ago, SailMoore1 said:

New boat arrives in a few weeks. Just purchased a trailer to bring her north. Thought about different options for transport and decided to get a trailer now as will need it either way. Boat is coming to and will be sailed out of Alameda.

#metoo

Sailing out of Alameda, I mean. Give me a shout when your boat gets here we'll do some sailing 

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3 hours ago, High Flow said:

why not just sink all fins?

We are a couple of hours north of you and have about 20 boats, Saturdays during the winter usually 5-10 on the water for training. Feel free to come up and have a go at sinking our boats if you like.
Or have a go at sailing one.

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1 hour ago, GER308 said:

We are a couple of hours north of you and have about 20 boats, Saturdays during the winter usually 5-10 on the water for training. Feel free to come up and have a go at sinking our boats if you like.
Or have a go at sailing one.

now thats a great offer

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On 10/25/2017 at 8:52 PM, couchsurfer said:
On 10/25/2017 at 12:27 PM, High Flow said:

why not just sink all fins?

....what then would you do with all the oversize numbskull sailors?  :mellow:

that was a coffee spiller! very funny!

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48 minutes ago, Carbon said:

I don't know much about Finns but this one seems to be over-priced but in good shape.  Aluminum mast so it won't be competitive but a good boat to learn in none the less!

https://columbus.craigslist.org/boa/d/finn-lemieux-abbott-boats/6365450667.html

How much would you Finn sailors pay for this setup?

Tom

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Says it is carbon

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14 hours ago, Carbon said:

Apparently missed that detail!  If it's not black it ain't carbon! 

There is such a thing as white paint.  that appears to be a willets round carbon mast. the newer masts since around 2000 are wing shaped carbon. That's not a bad beginner boat worth more like 3,500-5,000. 

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''Adrenaline producing boat ''    .... I suppose ripping pain produces adrenaline.

          ...and then the adrenaline masks the pain.        ...then yer good to go!   :mellow:

 

        Finn... never will you go so slow for so many control lines.  :rolleyes:

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This boat is ready to sail today 
Adrenaline producing boat 

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10 hours ago, Gouvernail said:

Gotta wonder how many of those lines are dummies connected to a hunk of Shock cord 

gotta say, it's quite amazing to be able to design all control, right down to the 'inhaul', a tensioner for the foot at tack, separate from outhaul and downhaul,,, all with fingertip control, right where you need them.   Sure changes the game from laser ballet over the years**

 

     **....remember when tightening the Laser 3:1 vang required a 'quick' luff to wind, then dive to center, jump on boom!?   :o   :wacko:

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This guy was too big to depower that much. I just pulled hard on the mainsheet and snugged the vang to that. 

I do wish I had a museum of all the horrible tillers and extensions I came up with before finally buying a carbon one from ACME. He revolutionized that part of the boat 

 

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On 10/30/2017 at 11:13 PM, Carbon said:

I don't know much about Finns but this one seems to be over-priced but in good shape.  Aluminum mast so it won't be competitive but a good boat to learn in none the less!

https://columbus.craigslist.org/boa/d/finn-lemieux-abbott-boats/6365450667.html

How much would you Finn sailors pay for this setup?

Tom

Here maybe 4000€ for the full  package depending on the mast and sail condition. 2000 -3000 Euro for the hull with rudder, boom, and maybe slipwagon. Round carbon mast maybe 500 to 700. Older simple road trailer dunno 300-500.  Used sails - almost new starting about 600 to free for older sails.
I have a  Devoti of the same age, a very hard 2010 HIT wing mast, combo trailer, good used sails and all the rest which cost me about  5500€

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11 hours ago, Gouvernail said:

 

I do wish I had a museum of all the horrible tillers and extensions I came up with before finally buying a carbon one from ACME. He revolutionized that part of the boat 

 

...my favorite was 1' of thick aircraft alloy, sitting beside a  snug fitting 5/8'' SS tube in the junkyard...then a roller tube for the traveller... then shockcord inside, connecting to wire for the tiller swivel .  :wacko:

                                    Watt removed a lot of 'fun' from Lasers.... but I digress.  :mellow:

11 hours ago, Gouvernail said:

This guy was too big to depower that much. I just pulled hard on the mainsheet and snugged the vang to that. 

 

 

The only thing stupider than  'going fast' in Finns....                    .....is fatfarts in Lasers.   :mellow:

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On 10/25/2017 at 3:08 PM, GER308 said:

We are a couple of hours north of you and have about 20 boats, Saturdays during the winter usually 5-10 on the water for training. Feel free to come up and have a go at sinking our boats if you like.
Or have a go at sailing one.

Thanks for the offer. Well appreciated. I'm not really getting any sailing time in at all. kids and stuff...

 

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Is there anything about the Finn that fundamentally limits it to men over 5' 10" (178 cm) and 180 lbs (82 Kg)?

I understand that pumping is a big part of gaining good performance in the Finn in light air, which provides an advantage for heavier, stronger crew.  It seems that advantage could be neutralized if either 1) the Finn competitions were divided into lightweight and heavyweight categories, or 2) pumping were banned.

I see speculation that the Finn is in danger of being eliminated from the Olympic games in order to facilitate the goal of gender equality.  At present, the Finn is designated in the Olympics as the class for heavyweight men only.  If the Finn is eliminated, the boat for all solo sailing would be the Laser, which would leave heavyweight men without a boat.  Perhaps it would make more sense to eliminate the Laser and conduct both the male and female solo sailing events with the Finn.

I actually recently considered buying a Finn, but I'm only 5' 7" and 145 lbs.

 

 

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^^ Elaborating on the above, for someone not engaged in serious racing, perhaps righting the boat from a capsize or lifting the mast when rigging the boat are limiting factors for weight of the sailor.

 

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Mainsail area: 10.6 m2 (114 sq ft)

 It's a big boat, with a big sail... so works better sailed by a big person. In strong winds a light sailor will struggle with it... in light airs a lighter hull would be more responsive to the sailor's weight... which is what a dinghy is all about...

 Try a Europe? Or an Aero? I would expect it to be more fun...

Cheers,

              W.

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Hi Captain Crunch, there are a lot of people out there with far more experience with the Finn. Mast development in the class is highly specialized and can accommodate a wide range of height and weight. Not sure if it can reach the weight you listed but I have seen people in that range sail well. 

You listed a concern about getting the mast in the boat.  It is far easier than my Laser. I would not consider that an issue. Nor would I worry about righting the boat.

One thing you did not list was your age. If this is a boat you will grow into, then start early. It is an awesome boat. 

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1 hour ago, squash said:

Do any of you have experience with putting two people on a Finn.  I put two on my Sunfish frequently, but it is quite cramped.  The Finn cockpit looks much larger.

While the cockpit is larger , the boom is lower. I sailed my finn with my daughter when she was little . It's doable as long as you're not tacking/ jibing a lot but it's a one person boat really.

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I agree with Surf Nazi. Is it doable, yes. If it is a one time or very rare occurrence it can be done. But don't get a Finn if your intention is to sail regularly with two people. There are so many boats out there that will accommodate two people much better. I have a Laser and a Finn. Both boats are for one person and I like the Finn a lot more. But if I were to take a passenger, I would go out in the Laser. While the Finn cockpit is huge, coordinating two people under the boom, would not be fun especially if you had to tack often up a narrow channel. I guess it would also depend on the size of the people. It would be much easier for two young teens versus two adults. 

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On my first Finn it had a really stiff old Needlespar, one with an oval bottom section. Used to really struggle with it as I was only 12st. One day went out with my 4 yr old probably top end of a F2 maybe F3 and going up wind had him sitting on me, his head just below my chin. Boat really took off! The extra few stone was what that mast needed to get working. Got another Finn with a softer mast.

So two up is ok and can be instructive.

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Squash, I love the Finn and sail it several times per week but never with two people. I rarely sail my Laser once I got the Finn. Some have said they sail a Finn with small children with no problem. I can see that as working. The cockpit is huge but as you have noted the boom is very low. Getting two adults under the boom would not be fun in my opinion. Can it be done, sure. The Laser will suffer more with the weight of two adults more than a Finn. But tacking is easier due to boom height. I have sailed Lasers with two adults.  Ya, the cockpit is tiny on a Laser but much easier for two adults to switch sides while tacking. The Laser is more tender with two adults but that is mainly do to the Laser being about 1/2 the weight of a Finn. 

When I was a teenager I had a boat called a Banshee. Probably has not been in production in the last 30 years. I see them on Craig's list all the time in San Francisco. It is a cat boat like the Laser / Finn. With a huge cockpit and high boom. We could put 2 or 3 teenagers in the boat with no issues. I had several friends that had a boat called a Kite. Another older design that is a one person boat but has a high boom and a cockpit large enough for a party.

i do not want to discourage you or anyone from getting a Finn. I think it is one of the best singlehanded boats you can sail.

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If there was a top 10 list of boats you would like to grab to take someone for a ride, the Finn would be 50th. And if your experience is limited, make that 60th. And unless you are talking about a couple kids, a Laser is almost as shitty, but a pretty fun little diving platform on sunny, calm days. My daughter liked doing that when she was 10. Is it possible to take someone out on a Finn? Yes. But it is also possible to take a Finn for a weekend of camping.

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5 hours ago, bill4 said:

If there was a top 10 list of boats you would like to grab to take someone for a ride, the Finn would be 50th. And if your experience is limited, make that 60th. And unless you are talking about a couple kids, a Laser is almost as shitty, but a pretty fun little diving platform on sunny, calm days. My daughter liked doing that when she was 10. Is it possible to take someone out on a Finn? Yes. But it is also possible to take a Finn for a weekend of camping.

Finn camping!!! The new rage...

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Hi, first post here so hope I'm not too outa line.

Heading off to look at a Finn also this weekend. $700NZD, pushing 50 years old (boat and I both come to think of it).

Any pointers on what to watch out for? I've never bought a dinghy before.

But wait there's more, I'm hoping to 'convert' it into a dinghy cruiser - am I mad, bad or sad?

Regards from Down under,

Brett

Oh wait, just read that last post... damn

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5 hours ago, Bestport said:

Hi, first post here so hope I'm not too outa line.

Heading off to look at a Finn also this weekend. $700NZD, pushing 50 years old (boat and I both come to think of it).

Any pointers on what to watch out for? I've never bought a dinghy before.

But wait there's more, I'm hoping to 'convert' it into a dinghy cruiser - am I mad, bad or sad?

Regards from Down under,

Brett

Oh wait, just read that last post... damn

 

Contact Gerrit at Vanaheim Technologies. He should be able to provide some local assistance. As for a cruiser conversion I vaguely remember reading about someone who sailed a Finn across the North Sea or something like that......

http://www.vanaheim.co.nz/finn.htm

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Hi all,

I’m a new poster and I am flirting with the idea of picking up an older Finn (30 year old Vanguard). It has a Latini carbon mast. From what I have read, the flexibility of the mast is one of the most important variables. I am 58 years old, 215 lbs and 6’. I have no other data on the mast. Does anyone know if Latini masts are generally stiffer? I mostly sail in San Francisco and San Diego.

Thank you

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2 hours ago, Marincountymooch said:

Hi all,

I’m a new poster and I am flirting with the idea of picking up an older Finn (30 year old Vanguard). It has a Latini carbon mast. From what I have read, the flexibility of the mast is one of the most important variables. I am 58 years old, 215 lbs and 6’. I have no other data on the mast. Does anyone know if Latini masts are generally stiffer? I mostly sail in San Francisco and San Diego.

Thank you

Mast layups are dependent on the mast more than the manufacturer, some are made-to-order for a specific sailor while others are done in common stiffness's in production batches. Ask for the bend numbers on the mast certificate, it will probably not be toooooo stiff and if it is you can swap with someone else or make little cuts on the back of the mast to soften it up (but kill the resale value)

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12 hours ago, onepointfivethumbs said:

Mast layups are dependent on the mast more than the manufacturer, some are made-to-order for a specific sailor while others are done in common stiffness's in production batches. Ask for the bend numbers on the mast certificate, it will probably not be toooooo stiff and if it is you can swap with someone else or make little cuts on the back of the mast to soften it up (but kill the resale value)

Yikes ! Do not listen to this guy. Cuts on the back of a carbon mast ? Terrible advise, no one in their right mind would do that. Maybe you read something about how they did that to the sail track on the old aluminum finn masts back in the day. Some people will sand the mast to soften them but it's a risky proposition. 

As to the posters questions, is it a round carbon or wing carbon ? No manufacturer's masts were known as too stiff or too soft . From my experience the round carbon masts seemed to be generally softer overall but you can stiffen them by adding some carbon to the sides. 

Realistically, if you're getting an old boat and an old mast, don't worry about stiffness. Get out and sail and learn the finn. The relative stiffness will not be a factor for a while. You're the perfect size and the masters fleet in San Diego is huge as it is throughout the US and world. The finn is the perfect boat in these times of social distancing and it's a great workout. Buy the boat, get down to San diego and hook up with the finn fleet down there. They are very welcoming and really help the newcomers. Plus it's a lot easier to learn in more moderate winds. San Fransisco can be a bit much for a newcomer. 

Feel free to message me for more info. I got into the class fairly late also and wish I'd done it sooner. We have a great fleet here on Mobile  Bay that is expanding all the time. Once you sail the finn, you will be hooked ! 

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2 hours ago, surf nazi said:

Get out and sail and learn the finn....

This.

 

Starting out it’s best to avoid the crutch of “...my this/that is old/not fast.  .”   Etc, etc.

There’s no place to hide anymore behind your hull/gear.

Meet ‘Rita’:

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-cornwall-19307265

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2 hours ago, surf nazi said:

Yikes ! Do not listen to this guy. Cuts on the back of a carbon mast ? Terrible advise, no one in their right mind would do that. Maybe you read something about how they did that to the sail track on the old aluminum finn masts back in the day. Some people will sand the mast to soften them but it's a risky proposition. 

As to the posters questions, is it a round carbon or wing carbon ? No manufacturer's masts were known as too stiff or too soft . From my experience the round carbon masts seemed to be generally softer overall but you can stiffen them by adding some carbon to the sides. 

Realistically, if you're getting an old boat and an old mast, don't worry about stiffness. Get out and sail and learn the finn. The relative stiffness will not be a factor for a while. You're the perfect size and the masters fleet in San Diego is huge as it is throughout the US and world. The finn is the perfect boat in these times of social distancing and it's a great workout. Buy the boat, get down to San diego and hook up with the finn fleet down there. They are very welcoming and really help the newcomers. Plus it's a lot easier to learn in more moderate winds. San Fransisco can be a bit much for a newcomer. 

Feel free to message me for more info. I got into the class fairly late also and wish I'd done it sooner. We have a great fleet here on Mobile  Bay that is expanding all the time. Once you sail the finn, you will be hooked ! 

Thank you. I appreciate the advice.

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5 hours ago, surf nazi said:

Yikes ! Do not listen to this guy. Cuts on the back of a carbon mast ? Terrible advise, no one in their right mind would do that. Maybe you read something about how they did that to the sail track on the old aluminum finn masts back in the day. Some people will sand the mast to soften them but it's a risky proposition. 

As to the posters questions, is it a round carbon or wing carbon ? No manufacturer's masts were known as too stiff or too soft . From my experience the round carbon masts seemed to be generally softer overall but you can stiffen them by adding some carbon to the sides. 

Realistically, if you're getting an old boat and an old mast, don't worry about stiffness. Get out and sail and learn the finn. The relative stiffness will not be a factor for a while. You're the perfect size and the masters fleet in San Diego is huge as it is throughout the US and world. The finn is the perfect boat in these times of social distancing and it's a great workout. Buy the boat, get down to San diego and hook up with the finn fleet down there. They are very welcoming and really help the newcomers. Plus it's a lot easier to learn in more moderate winds. San Fransisco can be a bit much for a newcomer. 

Feel free to message me for more info. I got into the class fairly late also and wish I'd done it sooner. We have a great fleet here on Mobile  Bay that is expanding all the time. Once you sail the finn, you will be hooked ! 

There are 2mm deep cuts on the back end of the green Willets that the class association owns.

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16 hours ago, onepointfivethumbs said:

There are 2mm deep cuts on the back end of the green Willets that the class association owns.

The class boat and that mast are at my club. I've helped people rig it and have not noticed the cuts. Of course, I don't notice a lot of things. I'll check it today. Please note that I didn't say no one would do that , only that no one in their right mind would do that. There are a few finn sailors that are not in their right mind. Someone may have done that to the mast thinking that, "hey, it worked for aluminum masts ". Maybe that's why someone donated it to the class.  Or could have been done accidently while travelling. Still, a terrible idea for carbon masts.   

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37 finns today at the state champs at RQ in Oz.....not bad considering that's just one state (borders are closed 'cos virus)......live streaming but currently under AP waiting for wind!

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6 hours ago, Couta said:

Regatta run & won...Jake Lilley a clear winner! 

Nice.   On the FB page it looks like all carbon rigs?   I’m rolling with a ‘classic’ alum this year, always curious to see how many there are out racing.

37 boats?   That’s pretty cool.

https://m.facebook.com/finnsvictoria/photos/a.894512370596103/3205255109521806/?type=3&source=54&ref=page_internal

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8 hours ago, blunderfull said:

Nice.   On the FB page it looks like all carbon rigs?   I’m rolling with a ‘classic’ alum this year, always curious to see how many there are out racing.

37 boats?   That’s pretty cool.

https://m.facebook.com/finnsvictoria/photos/a.894512370596103/3205255109521806/?type=3&source=54&ref=page_internal

Most everybody that goes on the road uses a carbon stick, but there are a few here and there rocking the old aluminum. If you end up liking the boat and want to stick with it the "classic with carbon" is a good option that gets you 85% of the way and the rest is tuning, fitness, and tactics. Oz seems to have a steady supply of gear, between the AST, the ISAF events and two Gold Cups in the past ten years and a good distributor in Sydney.

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^^^ and Onepointfive...they have a few guys that are seriously committed to building fleets...they share all the info, are constantly chasing gear and new class entries, encourage each other and operate pretty independently...they are the model for healthy class development. Not surprisingly, they are building numbers sustainably....and they're just a cool bunch of buggers!!

 

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On 7/22/2020 at 4:33 PM, onepointfivethumbs said:

There are 2mm deep cuts on the back end of the green Willets that the class association owns.

There are no cuts on that mast. There is a repair below the gooseneck if that's where these alleged cuts were located.

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5 hours ago, surf nazi said:

There are no cuts on that mast. There is a repair below the gooseneck if that's where these alleged cuts were located.

Weird I was pretty sure there were horizontal cuts underneath the gooseneck, might have been a different stick I'm thinking of.

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18 hours ago, onepointfivethumbs said:

Weird I was pretty sure there were horizontal cuts underneath the gooseneck, might have been a different stick I'm thinking of.

As I said , there is a repair below the gooseneck...so there may have been cuts there before the repair. Hence the repair. Not weird at all. Again, terrible idea to make cuts on the carbon mast .

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Bump. I want to try to sail and race one before i get too old. I am down to 180 and have started my crunches. I am looking for a budget fixer. Rig issues are ok. Wood or Fiberglass hulls. If you have a lead in Bay Area, California or elsewhere, I am your boy!  A bottle of quality of Rum, numerous craft beers or soda pop as commission on a successful, positive transaction. PM me if you got a lead. Thanks much!

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Wood Raudaschl for $500

http://www.finnusa.org/advert/1972-raudaschl-wooden-finn/

180 is a little light, if you want to go back to drinking beer and eating cheeseburgers it's okay :D

Michael Kennedy is the NorCal VP, shoot him a line at norcal@finnusa.org.

Alternatively, I think there are a few boats that will be coming up for sale this summer (Vanguards and Lemieux)

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A short by sweet YouTube video of Finn racing in the 1956 Olympics in Melbourne.

Found on the Wooden Finn FB page (a very cool site, by the way).

 

 

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9 hours ago, pironiero said:

Hey guys, can you please explain to me whats so good about finn? in comparacing with laser or some other single handers?

Big boat for big boys. Most competitive Finn sailors are 90-100kg and 1.8-2m tall, "ILCA" guys are nearly all 80-83kg. The Laser (et al) is great because it's relatively simple and easy to mass produce, leading to big fleets, and great competition because it (was) relatively cheap and easy to obtain so more people race them.

The Finn is more complex than the Laser, not only are there multiple different designs of hulls, masts, and sails, but there are fine-tuning controls like the traveler, the movable centerboard pin, the mast gate, and then custom mast bends and sail cuts to suit your weight and athleticism. You can make the boat as easy or hard to sail as you want, which is why there is a much wider weight range and continued popularity with Masters.

Edit: The Finn also predates the Laser by 20 years as the "singlehanded hiking dinghy", and was the only men's singlehander in the Olympics from 1952-1996

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34 minutes ago, onepointfivethumbs said:

Big boat for big boys. Most competitive Finn sailors are 90-100kg and 1.8-2m tall, "ILCA" guys are nearly all 80-83kg. The Laser (et al) is great because it's relatively simple and easy to mass produce, leading to big fleets, and great competition because it (was) relatively cheap and easy to obtain so more people race them.

The Finn is more complex than the Laser, not only are there multiple different designs of hulls, masts, and sails, but there are fine-tuning controls like the traveler, the movable centerboard pin, the mast gate, and then custom mast bends and sail cuts to suit your weight and athleticism. You can make the boat as easy or hard to sail as you want, which is why there is a much wider weight range and continued popularity with Masters.

Thank you very much!

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On 3/13/2021 at 7:03 AM, pironiero said:

Hey guys, can you please explain to me whats so good about finn? in comparacing with laser or some other single handers?

The main difference is that most of the other singlehanders , like lasers, are board board. The finn is a real boat not a board. It will handle big seas and big breeze. They race finns when all the other olympic classes can't sail ( like in 30 + kts ).  It is the most physically demanding boat which along with it's long and  illustrious history ( Elvstrom, Bertrand, Coutts, Ainsley, etc ) creates a panache that is not rivaled by any other class ( the star is close ). The best and most physical sailors of all time sailed finns.  Plus the finn allows for a great deal of weight differences due to different masts and sail combos in addition to it's variable tuning. Once you sail a finn in a breeze, you would not have to ask this question. 

 

So do it. Sail a finn.

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If you're too big for a Laser, want to test yourself against the best, want to be part of a great community and great tradition, want to be able to charter boats and show up at events in other parts of the world, and want to level up your sailing faster than you have since you were a little kid, the list is pretty short. Test drives and regatta loaners available. 

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1 hour ago, some dude said:

If you're too big for a Laser, want to test yourself against the best, want to be part of a great community and great tradition, want to be able to charter boats and show up at events in other parts of the world, and want to level up your sailing faster than you have since you were a little kid, the list is pretty short. Test drives and regatta loaners available. 

i mean, im 184-186, 85 kgs and tryna go down, currently planning on building a sailing dinghy with vacuum infusion and all that shit this spring-summer, currently im working out plans for 4m rs aero imposter but want to hear your opinion if i should go for a FUCKING SANDWICH HULLED finn?

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27 minutes ago, pironiero said:

i mean, im 184-186, 85 kgs and tryna go down, currently planning on building a sailing dinghy with vacuum infusion and all that shit this spring-summer, currently im working out plans for 4m rs aero imposter but want to hear your opinion if i should go for a FUCKING SANDWICH HULLED finn?

Depends.  Do you want to sail around by yourself?  Sounds like a cool project.  Want to test yourself and get better?  Eat a burrito and come out and play with the big boys. You've got the right attitude 

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Loving my Finn - after a lifetime of sailing in a massive variety of OD classes (including Lympic programs in 470, FD & Soling - and E22), at 60 I finally faced my demons (yes - I was intimidated by the idea of a Finn!)....now, having just finished my first season, I'm in love! My clear deck Devoti Classic is an incredibly sophisticated and rewarding craft. The outward simplicity of the cockpit & rig belies its mysteries and nuances. So much to learn... and the people in the class are so open & willing to share their hard won knowledge. The Boat & the People make it a very satisfying package...and outrageously good value. $15k and you have as good as it gets!!

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I am not a fan of Facebook in general, but there is a great FB page that recently started devoted to anything having to do with wooden Finns! There are plans for a wooden Finn worlds to be held in Sweden in 2022. 

This picture is Finn KA-9 taken in the 1960's. 

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17 hours ago, Couta said:

Loving my Finn - after a lifetime of sailing in a massive variety of OD classes (including Lympic programs in 470, FD & Soling - and E22), at 60 I finally faced my demons (yes - I was intimidated by the idea of a Finn!)....now, having just finished my first season, I'm in love! My clear deck Devoti Classic is an incredibly sophisticated and rewarding craft. The outward simplicity of the cockpit & rig belies its mysteries and nuances. So much to learn... and the people in the class are so open & willing to share their hard won knowledge. The Boat & the People make it a very satisfying package...and outrageously good value. $15k and you have as good as it gets!!

Well put

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On 3/24/2021 at 2:38 PM, onepointfivethumbs said:

In case anyone's interested, spring cleaning has found quite a few used Finns on the market ranging from $300 for boats that need some TLC to $16k for professionally prepared, podium-ready boats.

http://www.finnusa.org/adverts/

I sold mine last week...so stoked to get rid of that.  Did pretty well, got all my money back out of it.

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On 4/15/2021 at 10:29 PM, WCB said:

I sold mine last week...so stoked to get rid of that.  Did pretty well, got all my money back out of it.

May I ask why you sold ? What finn events did you sail ?  

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On 4/19/2021 at 8:38 AM, surf nazi said:

May I ask why you sold ? What finn events did you sail ?  

I was new to the class.  I bought the boat, signed up for membership to the class, but had the boat sent to a friend in San Diego and he sailed it at a Fall event. He left it at SDYC and I wasn't aware of that, nor did I have any reason not to believe that he had permission to do so...etc.  I was going to come down and sail my first events but got a call that everybody was angry with me for leaving my boat there which I had no idea about.  As a fleet builder myself, I would have approached it very differently so I decided that the Finn class wasn't for me after all.  When I posted it for sale, I got nasty comments about the value of the boat which reinforced my first experience.  Comments so nasty and negative that they took down the thread, probably because I replied saying I had never seen such a response to somebody posting a boat for sale.  I sold the boat for full asking price to somebody else and another Finn sailor asked me to stay and tried to convince me on the phone.  The one shining light in all of that.  He confirmed that I was fine on the market value and that the others were doing no good for the class by speaking out the way that they did.  He said if I weighed the boat and it checked out within a range, that I may have undervalued the boat by a couple of grand.  So be it...I bought a Melges 24.

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9 hours ago, Alan Crawford said:

Sailing World article about plans for a USA-built Finn.

https://www.sailingworld.com/story/racing/feeding-the-finn-family/

 

I can link some pictures later but the project has some grad students at U of M looking at the laminate schedule and comparing the original early 90's Lemieux deck to more recent Devoti and Pata decks (smaller breakwater, shallower square cockpit and curved traveler amongst other changes). They were poking around with infrared cameras and lasers and iPads and I felt very much out of my depth :blink:

It's super cool and hopefully a big step for the Americas.

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7 hours ago, WCB said:

I was new to the class.  I bought the boat, signed up for membership to the class, but had the boat sent to a friend in San Diego and he sailed it at a Fall event. He left it at SDYC and I wasn't aware of that, nor did I have any reason not to believe that he had permission to do so...etc.  I was going to come down and sail my first events but got a call that everybody was angry with me for leaving my boat there which I had no idea about.  As a fleet builder myself, I would have approached it very differently so I decided that the Finn class wasn't for me after all.  When I posted it for sale, I got nasty comments about the value of the boat which reinforced my first experience.  Comments so nasty and negative that they took down the thread, probably because I replied saying I had never seen such a response to somebody posting a boat for sale.  I sold the boat for full asking price to somebody else and another Finn sailor asked me to stay and tried to convince me on the phone.  The one shining light in all of that.  He confirmed that I was fine on the market value and that the others were doing no good for the class by speaking out the way that they did.  He said if I weighed the boat and it checked out within a range, that I may have undervalued the boat by a couple of grand.  So be it...I bought a Melges 24.

As a member of the SoCal Finn fleet and a class officer, all I can say is what a shame.  There are some really strong personalities at SDYC, and one in particular that’s a real bully.  I’d love to chat with you offline.  Text me at 714-904-0530.  But what a shame that you basically got chased out.

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5 minutes ago, View from the back said:

As a member of the SoCal Finn fleet and a class officer, all I can say is what a shame.  There are some really strong personalities at SDYC, and one in particular that’s a real bully.  I’d love to chat with you offline.  Text me at 714-904-0530.  But what a shame that you basically got chased out.

That is almost exactly what I heard about the SoCal people from the guy who tried to get me to keep the boat.  Thanks for the offer but I'll pass.  I need to focus on my new toys, my Melges 24 and I just bought a Melges 20 as well.  Stole the 20!  Paid less than most Finns for my lightly used Melges 20.  

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17 hours ago, WCB said:

I was new to the class.  I bought the boat, signed up for membership to the class, but had the boat sent to a friend in San Diego and he sailed it at a Fall event. He left it at SDYC and I wasn't aware of that, nor did I have any reason not to believe that he had permission to do so...etc.  I was going to come down and sail my first events but got a call that everybody was angry with me for leaving my boat there which I had no idea about.  As a fleet builder myself, I would have approached it very differently so I decided that the Finn class wasn't for me after all.  When I posted it for sale, I got nasty comments about the value of the boat which reinforced my first experience.  Comments so nasty and negative that they took down the thread, probably because I replied saying I had never seen such a response to somebody posting a boat for sale.  I sold the boat for full asking price to somebody else and another Finn sailor asked me to stay and tried to convince me on the phone.  The one shining light in all of that.  He confirmed that I was fine on the market value and that the others were doing no good for the class by speaking out the way that they did.  He said if I weighed the boat and it checked out within a range, that I may have undervalued the boat by a couple of grand.  So be it...I bought a Melges 24.

Oh, ok. So you never sailed a finn event. Sorry to hear about your dispute with SDYC but that's not a class issue . That's between you and SDYC. It's up to you to know where you boat is and that you have permission to keep it there.  Sounds like you are a little thin skinned to sail a finn. Glad you got your price for your boat. Good luck with the melges. 

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