dylan winter

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42 minutes ago, Panoramix said:

By who?

If they help around, the locals would be silly to kick them out.

In Turks and Caicos not only were they not kicking people out...they refused to let them leave!

Air Canada flew in 58 electricians on Sunday. Air Canada understood they would be able to use the return flight to evacuate 95 Canadians but Turks and Caicos authorities refused to allow them to board. The evacuation is now scheduled for today - two unnecessary days with an extra hundred people in discomfort and putting additional strain on limited facilities in Turks and Caicos.

Not really how you encourage additional aid in time of need.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/turks-caicos-canada-evacuation-global-affairs-1.4283514

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14 hours ago, jack_sparrow said:

I suspect they had no choice in the matter and were told to get off the island either on board Uncle Sams kerosene canary or swim.

 

1 hour ago, Panoramix said:

By who?

If they help around, the locals would be silly to kick them out.

Try government. This small place has a population of 40k and limited resources now that can only deal with a fraction of that let alone visitors with little more than the clothes on their back.

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35 minutes ago, jack_sparrow said:

 

Try government. This small place has a population of 40k and limited resources now that can only deal with a fraction of that let alone visitors with little more than the clothes on their back.

Evidence?

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jack is correct

 

I assume that the best thing to do is to get as many of the resource hungry, delicate stomached, bottle water glugging softhanded rich western accountants/dentists/advertising exec westerners out of there as soon as possible

 

If they were plumbers, electricians, jcb drivers they might be of some use.

So the best thing they can do to help the locals is to get a govt supplied air bus out of there and then start sending money back.

 

Of course, who pays to clear up the mess of yachts that fill the lee shore of every hurricane hole I do not know.

 

D

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As long as there are still rich tourists to be evacuated, there will be boats and planes coming in carrying emergency supplies.  Once all of 'our' people are safely home, that supply will rapidly dry out - we'll just stop giving a shit and leave the locals to fend for themselves...

No wonder some local authorities are slowing down the evacuations

Sorry for being cynical...

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11 hours ago, LB 15 said:

I bet he is bald under that stupid hat.

Well, duh! :P

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4 hours ago, Panoramix said:

By who?

If they help around, the locals would be silly to kick them out.

They've only been able to help themselves to the charity of the People of Puerto Rico up to this point so I think the locals made the right choice

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2 hours ago, Panoramix said:

Evidence?

The video they posted from Puerto Rico saying they were forced to leave and pay their way back home. That includes the air transport cost of the military extraction plane to Puerto Rico and hotel accommodations at $120 a day for as many days as it takes to get them on a flight stateside. They were taken to a shelter in PR and clothes were distributed as they were only allowed one bag and chose to take their electronic devices.

There's the evidence Pano, it was posted yesterday. You make it sound like people here make shit up that they need to prove to you at your request:(

P.S. Other videos of the islands show tourists abandoned by their governments and hiding from armed looters in a bathroom etc in fear of their lives as racial tensions are high right now. I read that on Yahoo news this morning if you want to check for yourself...

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8 hours ago, dylan winter said:

big easy sailing

 

two dogs..... one a doberman....

 

aaagh!

 

the production values show how good la vag and delos are

 

 

 

 

These people are proof of that old cliche - " If it looks too good to be true then it probably is "

All that boat of theirs is good for is being a cheap dock queen.  They are at the start of several heartbreaking and expensive years of boat rebuilding.

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it is amazing that they were prepared to leave the boat at anchor and fly 2000 miles away

 

I worry about mine if I go to the pub for the night

 

D

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They would not have understood what it means to leave a boat at anchor in bad weather.

Similarly, they did not understand that a roll up inflatable can't handle towing something that big. No wonder it fell apart. The solution would have been to buy an outboard mount and bolt it to the transom. A 5hp could push that thing along at 4 knots. 

That's impressive for a 3ksb.

 

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3 hours ago, Sail4beer said:

The video they posted from Puerto Rico saying they were forced to leave and pay their way back home. That includes the air transport cost of the military extraction plane to Puerto Rico and hotel accommodations at $120 a day for as many days as it takes to get them on a flight stateside. They were taken to a shelter in PR and clothes were distributed as they were only allowed one bag and chose to take their electronic devices.

There's the evidence Pano, it was posted yesterday. You make it sound like people here make shit up that they need to prove to you at your request:(

P.S. Other videos of the islands show tourists abandoned by their governments and hiding from armed looters in a bathroom etc in fear of their lives as racial tensions are high right now. I read that on Yahoo news this morning if you want to check for yourself...

Don't be to harsh on poor old Pano. I think his frequent bouts of bad temper are due to constipation. All that cheese...

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3 hours ago, Sail4beer said:

 

....There's the evidence Pano, it was posted yesterday. You make it sound like people here make shit up that they need to prove to you at your request:(

P.S. Other videos of the islands show tourists abandoned by their governments and hiding from armed looters in a bathroom etc in fear of their lives as racial tensions are high right now. I read that on Yahoo news this morning if you want to check for yourself...

And in the proof department he is a blog from Alex who also lost his Amel 53 tied up in St Maartin and which has been his home for nearly 5 years.

The situation has terribly degraded.
People are stealing anything. I took pictures of 20 to 25 people breaking in Blue Point electronic to steal anything they could. They saw me taking pictures I feared for my life and biked away.
I saw hundred of people robbing the grocery store Carrefour.
Many people have become ruthless and savages.
Bobby’s Boatyard did well, most boats safe.
Port de Plaisance marina is devastated, catamaran flipped over, monohull sink.
The hotel 50kw generator is running low on diesel, I went with an employee to NIKIMAT and dove to open the lazaret, 4 out of my 5 Jerry Cans floated (I assume the diesel is good), couldn’t find the 5th one, probably puncture.
The hotel sewer tanks are almost full and about to overflow in the street.
I bought the last water bottles at the grocery store next to my hotel, I am good for several weeks.
Rarely I get internet connection
Army and police are doing their best, but they are very nervous and not enough of them, people still walk at night to try to rob buildings.
This has become a 3rd World Country.
I am more afraid of the people than the Hurricane.

So Pano fuck off...you are needed back at work at the White Flag factory.

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On 8/25/2017 at 0:48 AM, IStream said:

Jesus, man. If you feel so strongly about it, start making your own films. The fact is, nobody is trying to learn Scottish history from Dylan. 

"Outlander" season three just started out, so maybe that will keep him quiet for a bit.

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On 8/28/2017 at 0:46 PM, LB 15 said:
On 8/28/2017 at 10:33 AM, Ishmael said:

2legs has been here for quite a while, IMHO contributing an interesting perspective without raising a fuss, suddenly Brent is gone and everyone's looking for a new target. Sure she has a different sense of humour, she's female and Irish. I can appreciate it without being threatened by it. I think the crowd needs to back off a bit here and re-evaluate this sudden howling for new blood. 

I didn't know, nor do I care if she is female. We are an equal oppitunity community here and so is she/he wants to act like a dick she gets called a dick. Or a cunt as the case may be. Which appears to have had a lot of sand in it of late.

I had no idea 2legs was female. Go figure.

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 I figured it out early on. It's the way she writes books. But she's ok in my book. Good knowledge of sailing for sure

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20 hours ago, jack_sparrow said:

I suspect this little ice box venture is going to have a pretty substantial support platform that you will never hear about in the vids. In the past they have freaked out when it hit 30k true in a mono so I hope they have a good therapist on call.

Good point, maximizing that promo investment.

The recent vid has Riley RIPP'n along comfortably at 17/18 kts with bursts north of 20. Yuppp

The rig be a humm'n man. Please put on a PFD and tether - forfucksakes

 

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49 minutes ago, Sail4beer said:

 I figured it out early on. It's the way she writes books. But she's ok in my book. Good knowledge of sailing for sure

I tend to write books too, so I don't view that as a purely feminine trait.

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21 hours ago, jack_sparrow said:

I suspect this little ice box venture is going to have a pretty substantial support platform that you will never hear about in the vids. In the past they have freaked out when it hit 30k true in a mono so I hope they have a good therapist on call.

 

21 minutes ago, ARumRunner said:

Good point, maximizing that promo investment.

The recent vid has Riley RIPP'n along comfortably at 17/18 kts with bursts north of 20. Yuppp

The rig be a humm'n man. Please put on a PFD and tether - forfucksakes

 

In their tips on sailing around the world Riley turned his nose up at all the safety stuff other cruisers carried saying it weighed a tonne and they were quite happy with just a Liferaft and an EPIRB. They must have carried a pidgeon for long distance comms when away from free wi-fi.

Their handlers for this arctic excursion might have to educate them in the "what happens when it goes pear shaped" department.

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The inimitable Christian Williams has a new video out. 

The perspective of an older man with a copy of Sartre's Being and Nothingness on the bookshelf is always a refreshing contrast.

 

 

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2 hours ago, jack_sparrow said:

 

In their tips on sailing around the world Riley turned his nose up at all the safety stuff other cruisers carried saying it weighed a tonne and they were quite happy with just a Liferaft and an EPIRB. They must have carried a pidgeon for long distance comms when away from free wi-fi.

Their handlers for this arctic excursion might have to educate them in the "what happens when it goes pear shaped" department.

 

Then there's the pile of spaghetti they leave on deck. Tread on that at 20 knots and its hello boys with pike and a flatbag dismount.

 

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2 hours ago, jack_sparrow said:

 

In their tips on sailing around the world Riley turned his nose up at all the safety stuff other cruisers carried saying it weighed a tonne and they were quite happy with just a Liferaft and an EPIRB. They must have carried a pidgeon for long distance comms when away from free wi-fi.

Their handlers for this arctic excursion might have to educate them in the "what happens when it goes pear shaped" department.

A good pair of bolt-ons not only create clicks- they will help her to float face up if the unthinkable happened.

I wish she would get'im out...

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29 minutes ago, savoir said:

 

Then there's the pile of spaghetti they leave on deck. Tread on that at 20 knots and its hello boys with pike and a flatbag dismount.

 

But not really a problem when night watch keeping only requires you to look out the window every so often.

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12 hours ago, Sail4beer said:

The video they posted from Puerto Rico saying they were forced to leave and pay their way back home. That includes the air transport cost of the military extraction plane to Puerto Rico and hotel accommodations at $120 a day for as many days as it takes to get them on a flight stateside. They were taken to a shelter in PR and clothes were distributed as they were only allowed one bag and chose to take their electronic devices.

There's the evidence Pano, it was posted yesterday. You make it sound like people here make shit up that they need to prove to you at your request:(

P.S. Other videos of the islands show tourists abandoned by their governments and hiding from armed looters in a bathroom etc in fear of their lives as racial tensions are high right now. I read that on Yahoo news this morning if you want to check for yourself...

I don't look this videos in detail but I am just under the impression that they left because they didn't like it not because they were forced to. They just behaved like lemmings whereas they were supposedly out there "discovering" the world. May be they would have fob them off but I think that they could have tried to find an organisation like the red cross or médecins dans frontières and given them a hand, they probably are understaffed and anybody can help with logistics. If they stay close to the boat, they stand a better chance of refloating it eventually. OK, if they couldn't be bothered to flee the hurricane, they probably don't have what it takes to save their sunken boat. 

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7 hours ago, ARumRunner said:

Good point, maximizing that promo investment.

The recent vid has Riley RIPP'n along comfortably at 17/18 kts with bursts north of 20. Yuppp

The rig be a humm'n man. Please put on a PFD and tether - forfucksakes

 

what sort of crude rig requires going forward to the mast to reef?

I thought modern boats had systems to avoid such malarky.

I also wonder if a tether is any use at 20 knots - I assume some-one has to take off the power pretty quickly otherwise the MOB gets a lung full of 20 knot water

I wear seldom a proper life jacket when sailing....

occasionally I wear  a floatation jacket - it keeps me warm like a puffa

sometimes I wear an inflating life jacket under a loose waterproof top. which is apparently a sentence of almost instand death

In the dinghy I always have one with me - not always on - usually I am sitting on it as it makes an excellent seat pad.

People appear to have stopped telling me to wear them in the youtube comments

having said all that

the only thing worse than a fool....... is an old fool

D

PS - my ropes are sometimes less than perfectly coiled

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Well Dylan, next time you have to head up to the mast to tuck in a reef while doing 20 knots, please leave the camera running. It should pick up either a thud or a splash. It was your British navy that invented the phrase " ship shape ".

Then again I think one of them also said " kiss me Hardy ". Must have been a long voyage.

 

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10 hours ago, Tom Keffer said:

The inimitable Christian Williams has a new video out. 

The perspective of an older man with a copy of Sartre's Being and Nothingness on the bookshelf is always a refreshing contrast.

 

 

Ahh TK you have made my day with this......I'm overdue taking on this challenge and exploring the bigger picture! Thank you.

 

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12 minutes ago, Couta said:

Ahh TK you have made my day with this......I'm overdue taking on this challenge and exploring the bigger picture! Thank you.

 

 I like his video of the Jersey shore in the 50's cruising with his Mom,Dad and brother. Classic stuff!

 

6 hours ago, Panoramix said:

I don't look this videos in detail but I am just under the impression that they left because they didn't like it not because they were forced to. They just behaved like lemmings whereas they were supposedly out there "discovering" the world. May be they would have fob them off but I think that they could have tried to find an organisation like the red cross or médecins dans frontières and given them a hand, they probably are understaffed and anybody can help with logistics. If they stay close to the boat, they stand a better chance of refloating it eventually. OK, if they couldn't be bothered to flee the hurricane, they probably don't have what it takes to save their sunken boat. 

Nope.

They were worthless to the locals. We went theough Sandy 5 years ago and the locals here who didn't prepare(80percent) were worthless to help in any capacity. The Red Cross doesn't just accept volunteers at every emergency as they prepared ahead of time to serve the community. 

The kids got themselves into that mess by sailing north toward the storm system to up their hits on YouTube, lost their boat and all their possessions. They became instant parasites to the locals and put an immediate strain on the frail infrastructure remains. And on top of that, they knew no one to offer them any assistance and were exhausted and hungry like everyone else. If they were still there, I think the locals would have robbed them of their electronics and worse...

Those kids will be on land for a long time now and I'm glad. At least they won't be raped and killed by the natives who have gone full caveman...

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It will be an interesting winter.

I reckon there are around 50 patreon floggers/vloggers out there in their 40 footers swimming with pigs, emoting at dolphins, snorkelling in crystal clear water.  Many of them are making excellent videos  but shoving them out into a market that is nearly as crowded as the rolly polly anchorages they spend time in. I would guess that there will be a massive shake out.....

 

there are those who have  lost their 40 footers..... there are those who will find that the cost of insurance has suddenly become unaffordable, or that sailing is a bit more demanding than they had thought, or  that there is not enough spare patreon cash to support 50 bikini sailors waving their busters at cameras.

 

The other trend is the "guests" schtick where people are invited along to join the experience.... not sure what the financial arrangements are with that. Do these "guests" do their own laundry? do  they bring their own sleeping bags? Who takes care of the costs of the airport transfers? Do they pay for their own beers? Who cleans shit house?

Are the guests insured in any way.

When I sold the last Centaur in Glasgow (land of beach bars, glamourous babes, interesting local colour) lots of blokes said that I should start offering sailing experiences or some training.....

my idea of hell on earth.

sharing space on a 26 footer in scotland with occasional stays from wife/dog/family is tough..... sharing it with people who know nuffink and are expecting a holiday with swimming pigs and white beaches would be fekkin bonkers.... and I have never owned a boat that could be anywhere near coded so it would be horribly illegal. My boats have been too crap to pass any insurance survey so I sail with third part insurance

 

I have greatly enjoyed many of the sailing  narratives that have been created. I am really grateful to these people for showing how good my life could have been had I been younger and better looking.

I occasionally wonder about the legacy left by these people.

When I think of victorian sailors I imagine the noble  slocums and the middletons manfully facing long cold passages - stiff upper lips barely quivering in the wind. The image of  the millennial sailor, on the other hand, will be a girl with plastic busters feeding boloney sandwhiches to spotted pigs.

This time will pass.

Dylan

 

 

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1 hour ago, dylan winter said:

When I think of victorian sailors I imagine the noble  slocums and the middletons manfully facing long cold passages - stiff upper lips barely quivering in the wind. The image of  the millennial sailor, on the other hand, will be a girl with plastic busters feeding boloney sandwhiches to spotted pigs.

Not to mention Tilman & Smeeton as exemplars of tough English sailors. One ended up dying at sea and the other came bloody close a couple of times.

FKT

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1 hour ago, dylan winter said:

I am really grateful to these people for showing how good my life could have been had I been younger and better looking.

OK that was worth coming back to the thread.

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I don't understand how all these Caribbean vloggers are going to do now. Even if their boats survived, the services are all gone. People are sleeping out in the open, with no shelter.

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10 minutes ago, Ajax said:

I don't understand how all these Caribbean vloggers are going to do now. Even if their boats survived, the services are all gone. People are sleeping out in the open, with no shelter.

They're going to ask you for money.

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5 minutes ago, kent_island_sailor said:

I utterly loath this "video myself for cash" bullshit. Among other things, one feels like one has to do more and more outrageous stuff to keep the clicks coming.

Sure, I would never do it myself. Obviously there others who think this is just great way of life - we can all see some of the attraction. 

As watching - that is something completely different. Or is it not?  Possible to watch, knowing the background, still enjoying? 

Myself, I am just bored by these. Of some I can watch one episode - the first. Others, just some few minutes. 

Oh well ....

//J 

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Well, it's not just sailing.  There are hordes of these kids out there who think people will pay money to watch their slacker lives - or an over-hyped representation thereof - who don't seem to do anything in particular at all.    My last renters always had a string of "gofundme's" going that they imagined would help them through budget difficulties.  They'd make up some dreadful video about how they were somehow being victimized (baby needs meds, help us rescue this dog, help I've gotten stoned in bed and I can't get up!) and wait for the cash to roll in.  Not that it ever did. 

 

 

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I tend not to paint all the YouTubers with the same brush. In fact, I find it pretty easy to separate the leeches from the sailors who are genuinely nice people just sharing their adventure. CAT IMPI would be a perfect example. Having said that, they are independently wealthy so they don't need to beg!

I still watch LaVaga, reason being, they were neophytes when they started and it was a somewhat close up and personal as they developed. Unfortunately 'Lana turned out to be a drama queen with a clothes shopping budget that must suck those patreon dollars at a pace quicker than the Outremer. She best be careful, in the last vid (the 22 knot one), she was wearing a tonne of jewelry on her fingers. A big concern since she was manning the coach roof stoppers with a mess of uncoiled lines ready to grab a digit and make short work of it. And that nice new dink was bucking around like a steer waiting for it's rodeo hero. I am happy for them, its their life but I'm not sure how much longer I will tune in.

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LaVag has lost its innocence, and appeal, to me. An example, I can't look at Elayna hiding her fake tits all the time.

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5 hours ago, kent_island_sailor said:

I utterly loath this "video myself for cash" bullshit. Among other things, one feels like one has to do more and more outrageous stuff to keep the clicks coming.

They should have to do more outrageous stuff.  You want more money then dance monkey, oh and bust out those cans.  I can't really get past the first 30 seconds of any of these clowns.  Now  Dylan's videos I can watch.

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52 minutes ago, Blitz said:

They should have to do more outrageous stuff.  You want more money then dance monkey, oh and bust out those cans. 

I hope the man-made material in them new busters is rated for -0 degrees C. Then again maybe not...they would then be permanently frozen in takeoff mode.

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18 hours ago, dylan winter said:

I occasionally wonder about the legacy left by these people.

When I think of victorian sailors I imagine the noble  slocums and the middletons manfully facing long cold passages - stiff upper lips barely quivering in the wind. The image of  the millennial sailor, on the other hand, will be a girl with plastic busters feeding boloney sandwhiches to spotted pigs.

This time will pass.

Dylan

 

 

I'm guessing that  -- perhaps if nothing else -- the millennials smell better than Slocum or Hornblower.

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3 hours ago, Blitz said:

They should have to do more outrageous stuff.  You want more money then dance monkey, oh and bust out those cans.  I can't really get past the first 30 seconds of any of these clowns.  Now  Dylan's videos I can watch.

. . .and Christian.  I like watching the crusty old guys.  Reminds me of me, only more sailing.

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1 minute ago, bplipschitz said:

I'm guessing that  -- perhaps if nothing else -- the millennials smell better than Slocum or Hornblower.

And probably have way better personal hygiene overall. While they're alive, anyhow.

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At least Slocum didn't shave his balls and get tattoos of his home state shaped like brass knuckles behind his ear

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28 minutes ago, Sail4beer said:

At least Slocum didn't shave his balls and get tattoos of his home state shaped like brass knuckles behind his ear

Sail I'm sure you have a very good view of things backside and behind  :-)

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Get in on the ground level with Anarchist BOOBOO's journey from NZ to buying a boat in France. 

 

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15 hours ago, Blitz said:

They should have to do more outrageous stuff.  You want more money then dance monkey, oh and bust out those cans.  I can't really get past the first 30 seconds of any of these clowns.  Now  Dylan's videos I can watch.

I also figure maybe 5% of "stolen celebrity sex tapes" are actually stolen :rolleyes:

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On 9/12/2017 at 4:39 PM, jack_sparrow said:

And in the proof department he is a blog from Alex who also lost his Amel 53 tied up in St Maartin and which has been his home for nearly 5 years.

The situation has terribly degraded.
People are stealing anything. I took pictures of 20 to 25 people breaking in Blue Point electronic to steal anything they could. They saw me taking pictures I feared for my life and biked away.
I saw hundred of people robbing the grocery store Carrefour.
Many people have become ruthless and savages.
Bobby’s Boatyard did well, most boats safe.
Port de Plaisance marina is devastated, catamaran flipped over, monohull sink.
The hotel 50kw generator is running low on diesel, I went with an employee to NIKIMAT and dove to open the lazaret, 4 out of my 5 Jerry Cans floated (I assume the diesel is good), couldn’t find the 5th one, probably puncture.
The hotel sewer tanks are almost full and about to overflow in the street.
I bought the last water bottles at the grocery store next to my hotel, I am good for several weeks.
Rarely I get internet connection
Army and police are doing their best, but they are very nervous and not enough of them, people still walk at night to try to rob buildings.
This has become a 3rd World Country.
I am more afraid of the people than the Hurricane.

So Pano fuck off...you are needed back at work at the White Flag factory.

Social justice in the face of disaster. The hurricane leveled the institutions put there to grant social order. Now there is nothing to put poor people in their place and they all mix up. This is temporary though, that's why they are looting the shit out of it while it lasts.

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53 minutes ago, dylan winter said:

La Vag react to safety crits

 

Why do they have a dead ungulate head on their wall? Seems to be a strange thing to have on a boat.

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^^^^Or did he fall overboard??Tethering is a personal choice so each to their own if they are in charge of the vessel. However lecturing on the subject when clearly they have no idea on what constitutes a proper setup is pretty irresponsible when you are an on-line "influencer". Zero or occasional use as they are are promoting with no jacklines and fixed points or if they are in place not properly located, having long tether clip lengths etc etc is just plain dumb.

As the icebox tour also sounds as though it is going to be a fully crewed number they will need to rethink their tethering philosophy for waters with nasty survivability numbers.

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I know that some grumpy old blokes on this forum dislike the genre of sailing films involving lovely people sailing in easy places while waving buskers cups

but as an example of how, for us sailors,   things can suddenly turn against you this is a classic.

I think it is interesting to see these narratives. For me, as a non globe trotting sailor who spends his days drifting around benign muddy creeks it is an eye opener

as they say.... every boat has a story.

I have never lost a boat to the elements -  it must be bloody awful

sailing mischief - St Maarten

 

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9 hours ago, dylan winter said:

La Vag react to safety crits

 

I got to about the two min mark when brows claimed that maybe they should west a harness because they are roll models for young people and want to set a good example.

fuck me dead, what a pair of arses.

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28 minutes ago, LB 15 said:

I got to about the two min mark when brows claimed that maybe they should west a harness because they are roll models for young people and want to set a good example.

fuck me dead, what a pair of arses.

You've got 120 seconds more tolerance than I do. I can't bring myself to even click on the link.

FKT

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3 hours ago, Fah Kiew Tu said:

You've got 120 seconds more tolerance than I do. I can't bring myself to even click on the link.

FKT

I only clicked hopeing for a glimpse of the new puppies. Time for them to be un-tethered as well.

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4 minutes ago, LB 15 said:

I only clicked hopeing for a glimpse of the new puppies. Time for them to be un-tethered as well.

Yeah OK, I'll pay that.

FKT

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16 hours ago, Ishmael said:

Why do they have a dead ungulate head on their wall? Seems to be a strange thing to have on a boat.

Wouldn't be surprised that it is a present from the shipyard or something, la grande Motte is right next to "Camargue", known for its wild horses and cattles tradition

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Haters gonna hate no matter what they do...

Riley and Elena are great - down to earth, modest, very genuine and they LOVE sailing...

That's why I chuck them a few ££ per video :-)

Hoping they come to England next year...

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13 hours ago, dylan winter said:

I know that some grumpy old blokes on this forum dislike the genre of sailing films involving lovely people sailing in easy places while waving buskers cups

but as an example of how, for us sailors,   things can suddenly turn against you this is a classic.

I think it is interesting to see these narratives. For me, as a non globe trotting sailor who spends his days drifting around benign muddy creeks it is an eye opener

as they say.... every boat has a story.

I have never lost a boat to the elements -  it must be bloody awful

sailing mischief - St Maarten

 

Gives a pretty good idea of the near total destruction of St. Martin.  We were there for almost 3 weeks in January.  Passed by the docks where their boat was many times.  It is a sheltered area, but I guess in 160 kt winds there really is no shelter. Awful to think of what the inhabitants are going through.  No power, no water, no way to cook or store food even if you can get it. Crazy.

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7 hours ago, theadmiralty said:

P.S. Cannot warm to Sailing Delos AT ALL!! 

why not?  of all these online vids, they keep me interested the most

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3 hours ago, dacapo said:

why not?  of all these online vids, they keep me interested the most

Because he hasn't invested in them.

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10 hours ago, theadmiralty said:

Haters gonna hate no matter what they do...

Riley and Elena are great - down to earth, modest, very genuine and they LOVE sailing...

That's why I chuck them a few ££ per video :-)

Hoping they come to England next year...

Hey I agree and you won't find anyone more modest, genuine and down to earth than me. Any chance you could rattle my tin so I can continue to love sailing as well?

i will pm you my bank details. 

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10 hours ago, theadmiralty said:

Riley and Elena are great - down to earth, modest, 

'Modest' as in 'we don't need to wear tethers because we have always been into risky activities' or 'we are role models to so many young people that look up to us'

it's not as if we don't want to see the light she hides under her bushel, but a peek at the new cans would be fine.

 

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1 hour ago, LB 15 said:

'Modest' as in 'we don't need to wear tethers because we have always been into risky activities' or 'we are role models to so many young people that look up to us'

it's not as if we don't want to see the light she hides under her bushel, but a peek at the new cans would be fine.

 

I don't care whether they wear tethers or not, just as long as they don't also own an EPIRB or PLB if they choose not to look after their own safety.

Fortunately the youtube brigade seems to stay a long way away from Australia. Perhaps the arsehole reputation of our Border Farce has some upsides.

FKT

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3 hours ago, Fah Kiew Tu said:

Fortunately the youtube brigade seems to stay a long way away from Australia. Perhaps the arsehole reputation of our Border Farce has some upsides.

FKT

FuckU I don't think so...most of these useless fuckers usually bail out or sink before they get 1000nm from home.

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15 hours ago, theadmiralty said:

Haters gonna hate no matter what they do...

Riley and Elena are great - down to earth, modest, very genuine and they LOVE sailing...

That's why I chuck them a few ££ per video :-)

Hoping they come to England next year...

Aurrette and I are great, down to earth, modest and genuine to a T and we love fuckin sailing....not to mention Aurrette's cans are real and pretty  pumped. However this month has been a bitch, the watermaker is now dead as a dodo, need new batteries, I got to replace the forward lowers and Aurrette's mother needs to go on dialysis....can you please chuck us a few £££ too??? 

If you are not inclined to help us out can you please explain why we don't measure up as a reciepeint of your kind largesse? 

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56 minutes ago, jack_sparrow said:

FuckU I don't think so...most of these useless fuckers usually bail out or sink before they get 1000nm from home.

Shit, that's not much further than Sydney to Hobart or Hobart to Bluff NZ. Nobody thinks sailing that distance is anything special.

FKT

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On 9/9/2017 at 10:08 PM, Beeline said:

Another self obsessed twat. I can't believe he got 350,000 views for his piece of crap. He isn't even nice to look at. He needs to wash and comb his horrid hair and stay off the dope a while.

the self obsessed twat - as you so beautifully put it, raised $2,000 through gofundme and then loaded a uhaul trailer with food and took it to the flooded areas of Florida

 

 

 

 

If he is a self obsessed twat he is a twat whose heart is in the right place.

 

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He's a pretty cool Dude who seems to be interested in the people around him and their wellbeing. 

 

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Wow, some seriously bitter people on this forum...

I throw Riley and Elayna a few quid because I enjoy following their adventure and I want them to continue making sailing videos for my enjoyment.

Producing quality videos and sailing doesn't come bloody free!!!

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2 hours ago, theadmiralty said:

Wow, some seriously bitter people on this forum...

I throw Riley and Elayna a few quid because I enjoy following their adventure and I want them to continue making sailing videos for my enjoyment.

Producing quality videos and sailing doesn't come bloody free!!!

Around CA there is a consensus among many of the veteran posters that La Vagabonde's crew presents a negative picture of the next generation of sailors: self-centred, shallow and eschewing time-honoured seamanship and values. On the other hand, Riley and Elayna have been very successful at the sailing vlog game and have parlayed that success into a new boat and a means of supporting themselves. Dylan Winter says they are among the best of the 'YouTube diarists' and gives their film making high praise. Personally I prefer the true grit of Dylan's videos. I don't think I have ever made it through an entire La Vagabonde episode. But for those of you who enjoy La Vag, maybe you are finding something I am missing or don't fancy. I don't think I am bitter about their success and doubt the others are either. Just critical of their attitude. I'm sure La Vag doesn't care what people on CA think anyway.

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On 15/09/2017 at 6:19 PM, dylan winter said:

their position as market leaders is well deserved

D

 

3 hours ago, theadmiralty said:

Wow, some seriously bitter people on this forum...

I throw Riley and Elayna a few quid because I enjoy following their adventure and I want them to continue making sailing videos for my enjoyment.

Producing quality videos and sailing doesn't come bloody free!!!

I was indifferent to them as they had nothing to offer. Then someone earlier (I think in this thread) drew attention to their stealing from another sailboat…episode 18.

They came across an inverted cat – not abandoned, not a case of salvage the boat was attached to a mooring. They entered it rummaged around and made off with a number of items before they where shooed away by someone they thought was saying “it was his boat”. Rather than apologizing and returning the items they plundered they made off in the dingy.  Not only where they so self centered as to rob from an unfortunate other sailor they where clueless enough as to include it in their video.

That moved me from indifferent to definitely hostile to them.

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I think the Catamaran incident showed some naivety, they aren't life long sailors so they probably didn't know the rules. They've done some miles now mostly shorthanded too. Fuck even Rimas has more single handed miles than most of us. 

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7 hours ago, theadmiralty said:

Wow, some seriously bitter people on this forum...

I throw Riley and Elayna a few quid because I enjoy following their adventure and I want them to continue making sailing videos for my enjoyment.

Producing quality videos and sailing doesn't come bloody free!!!

My youtube name is Boatflix. Really!

https://www.youtube.com/user/Boatflix

You've gotta send me some coin!

Perhaps the most exciting was the 2010 Sun Cat National Championship, narrated by (formerly) our own Tom Scott.

My standard rate for such work is $42.50

 

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