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10 hours ago, Diarmuid said:

My feed's been turning up "Sailing Chuffed: Vet tails", featuring an Aussie animal caregiver trying to fix a shitty diesel. Which can break any of us. ;)

(Apologies if this channel has been mentioned. It's a damn long thread.)

Cute but needs a sammich 

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On 12/10/2019 at 3:21 AM, dylan winter said:

I feel like you've shown this one before...at least the ass-up shot is very familiar.  This thumbnail is such blatant sexual pandering that I refuse to click on it. Look, I love beautiful woman as much as any other straight guy but the constant drumbeat that we're all a bunch of dumb, over-sexed animals that can't resist clicking on this shit is really, really fucking tiresome.

Without clicking, I will confidently wager that there is no worthwhile content in the video and all that's worth seeing is right here in the thumbnail.

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@dylan winter Eh, no need to apologize. You're looking at it analytically, it's not like you're pimping for them. But seriously, the data point that "sex sells" is hardly late-breaking news. We get it.

I recently stumbled upon a Youtube video warning/complaining about new FTC/COPPA regulations that has "content creators" all in a tizzy because the FTC has basically said "in the name of protecting children, we can and will sue any content creator into oblivion and we plan to make examples out of some people." These regulations take effect on January 1st.

I wonder how this will impact all these people who rely on soft porn to peddle their worthless content.

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2 hours ago, Ajax said:

@dylan winter Eh, no need to apologize. You're looking at it analytically, it's not like you're pimping for them. But seriously, the data point that "sex sells" is hardly late-breaking news. We get it.

I recently stumbled upon a Youtube video warning/complaining about new FTC/COPPA regulations that has "content creators" all in a tizzy because the FTC has basically said "in the name of protecting children, we can and will sue any content creator into oblivion and we plan to make examples out of some people." These regulations take effect on January 1st.

I wonder how this will impact all these people who rely on soft porn to peddle their worthless content.

Not sure I've seen anything I'd call soft porn on Youtube.  It's all fairly tame fare --- and these sailing vids are certainly not as racy or offensive as most of the explicit lyrics to many of today's pop songs.  But each of us has our own yardstick when deciding what's cute, what's sexy, what's trashy etc.  You say "we get it" but I think that you should expect to continue to see more of the same...because the title of the thread is "Girl with Patreon account goes sailing in hot place."  After all, each of these vids gives us one more thing to debate.:D

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Remember the days of Ed Meese?  If he were still in charge, half the internet would be banned.  Of course, Bill Barr is aching to follow in his footsteps, but he has a full-time job keeping you know who out of you know what.  Basically, Meese picked a few scapegoats to persecute and the rest of the party went on unabated.  

FTC is maybe a more "satisfying" agency to use than DOJ because FTC is judge, jury, and prosecutor, all in one.  They never lose.  But basically they just run around burning a few witches and holding press conferences about it.  Unless you are one of the people who get burned, it makes little difference.   

 

Edit: Oops, stupid mistake.  I meant 90% of the internet.

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34 minutes ago, Israel Hands said:

Not sure I've seen anything I'd call soft porn on Youtube.  It's all fairly tame fare --- and these sailing vids are certainly not as racy or offensive as most of the explicit lyrics to many of today's pop songs.  But each of us has our own yardstick when deciding what's cute, what's sexy, what's trashy etc.  You say "we get it" but I think that you should expect to continue to see more of the same...because the title of the thread is "Girl with Patreon account goes sailing in hot place."  After all, each of these vids gives us one more thing to debate.:D

I do expect to see more of the same because mostly, men (and boys) are ungoverned in their desires and they WILL click on a shit video with no meaningful content with the desperate hope of a quick glimpse of side-boob.  I'm just not one of those guys. 

Look, I'm no prude. I'm not offended by nudity. I just think that videos like this are not even worth the cost of "free."  I'm just not that lonely and desperate in my life that I'm willing to listen to 15 minutes of talking head because they posted a misleading thumbnail with the woman ass-up.  It's shitty, sleazy, used car salesmanship. It works for them for the same reason that it works for sleazy used car salesmen. Yeah, they're successful. Congrats.

Somewhere in landlocked, wintry Kansas, there's an unhappy guy fapping away in front of his computer at this thumbnail while handing over his dollars to Patreon. That's their target audience.

@toddster  I definitely don't advocate banning anything. I guess I just wish that viewers weren't so base and predictable and that these things would die a natural death all on their own. That's a fantasy.

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8 minutes ago, Ajax said:

Somewhere in landlocked, wintry Kansas, there's an unhappy guy fapping away in front of his computer at this thumbnail while handing over his dollars to Patreon. That's their target audience.

:lol: What awful imagery...but 2 generations ago he was in the outhouse looking at the underwear section of the Sears-Robuck catalog! 

(And why would anyone pay for Patreon sailing account 'porn' when there's an internet full of the stuff for free?)

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43 minutes ago, Toecutter's Ghost said:

What??! There's actual porn on this here Internet thingy??

What the heck have I been doing wasting all my time on this site?

 

I am continually stunned that people PAY for porn in this day and age.  

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1 hour ago, Ishmael said:

More like a cowpie.

C’mon, ya know you like a little Redneck Yacht Club mud action, Ish! :-)

That one was for our European colleagues here, so they know what to expect when they land on ‘Mercan shores in their sailboats.  Don’t let them watch any other misleading YT sailing vids.  Just that one, guys.  (Dylan will Keep Turning Left once he arrives if he witnesses that spectacle ... :-) )

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7 hours ago, Ajax said:

As the polar ice opens up, I imagine we'll see more high latitude sailing by more people.

Probably one of easiest place to go high latitude sailing (see below) (if only b/c there’s never any ice!  But plenty of storms...)  I would love to go out the Aleutians and, especially, up to the islands in the Bering Sea that are covered in huge walruses (US National Park/nature reserve) — incredible animals/raw, wild nature.

https://www.expeditionsail.com/

 

 

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1 hour ago, Jud - s/v Sputnik said:

Probably one of easiest place to go high latitude sailing (see below) (if only b/c there’s never any ice!  But plenty of storms...)  I would love to go out the Aleutians and, especially, up to the islands in the Bering Sea that are covered in huge walruses (US National Park/nature reserve) — incredible animals/raw, wild nature.

https://www.expeditionsail.com/

 

 

very good indeed

 

the film has been up three months and has had 64 views

 

google alogorithmns make a nonsense of everything that is good and life affirming

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On 12/11/2019 at 3:30 PM, Ajax said:

I feel like this is the cyber equivalent of a landmine.

I actually watched it.  (Well, there was some skipping ahead).

It's better than some of the sailing videos linked upthread:

  1. The people playing in the mud with their trucks knew what they were doing and were at an organized, well-run event.
  2. Camera work and editing were competent.
  3. The young women in the thumbnail actually appeared in the video.

 

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6 hours ago, dylan winter said:

very good indeed

Fantastic work, I think.  Some of those 10 second shots could have taken months to achieve.

 

6 hours ago, dylan winter said:

google alogorithmns make a nonsense of everything that is good and life affirming

In the 1990s, in the dawn of the internet, I had a website about 1940s Jeeps.  It was popular, and highly ranked at yahoo.com.  One day they changed their algorithms and no one visited any more.  The more things change, the more they stay the same

Google algorithms aside, those who seek out quality content can find it.  At the same time, those who seek out risque not-quite-porn videos can find those too

My wife and I used to work as street performers.  In that business you learn quickly that the two things that draw tips are danger and sexual content.  Fire performers.  Knife throwing.  Sexy costumes.  Bawdy songs.

I still do lots of work in the performing arts that is good and life affirming but that doesn't pay.

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36 minutes ago, 2airishuman said:

Fantastic work, I think.  Some of those 10 second shots could have taken months to achieve.

 

In the 1990s, in the dawn of the internet, I had a website about 1940s Jeeps.  It was popular, and highly ranked at yahoo.com.  One day they changed their algorithms and no one visited any more.  The more things change, the more they stay the same

Google algorithms aside, those who seek out quality content can find it.  At the same time, those who seek out risque not-quite-porn videos can find those too

My wife and I used to work as street performers.  In that business you learn quickly that the two things that draw tips are danger and sexual content.  Fire performers.  Knife throwing.  Sexy costumes.  Bawdy songs.

I still do lots of work in the performing arts that is good and life affirming but that doesn't pay.

Feeding your soul has to come first.

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4 hours ago, 2airishuman said:

Fantastic work, I think.  Some of those 10 second shots could have taken months to achieve.

 

In the 1990s, in the dawn of the internet, I had a website about 1940s Jeeps.  It was popular, and highly ranked at yahoo.com.  One day they changed their algorithms and no one visited any more.  The more things change, the more they stay the same

Google algorithms aside, those who seek out quality content can find it.  At the same time, those who seek out risque not-quite-porn videos can find those too

My wife and I used to work as street performers.  In that business you learn quickly that the two things that draw tips are danger and sexual content.  Fire performers.  Knife throwing.  Sexy costumes.  Bawdy songs.

I still do lots of work in the performing arts that is good and life affirming but that doesn't pay.

I think the comparison with street performing is a good one

youtube is like busking - the performer is hoping that one per cent of the people  passing by will drop some cash in the pot. (actually for La vag et al it is more like 0.4 per cent)

It as if you  are doing something clever with a trombone or a fiddle and are earning some cash by busking and along comes a troop of fire-eaters not wearing many clothes - all the oxygen gets used up and the witty trombist gets blown out of the water.

I hear what you say about being able to find good content - but not through a search algorithmn.

the youtube street is packed with pulchitudinous performers while under a pillar somewhere in an underpass is some-one who is doing good work with 70 hits in three months

 

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@dylan winter

An apt description. I seek out the 70-hit people under the highway overpass, the trombists and fiddlers.  I'll watch the fire-eaters for eating fire, but not fire-eaters who say "watch me sit around talking about eating fire because I'm naked and you'll give me money because you're a dumb animal who can't help himself."

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As a complete aside, I've worked with some truly amazing jugglers and fire performers and unicycle riders.  And acrobats.  Several who are full-time professionals who make good money at this, corporate gigs, cruise ships, ads, TV and movie stunts.  I am spoiled, and things like the sunset show at Mallory Square in Key West are a huge disappointment for me, because they aren't in the same league.

The best fire performers I've met are passionate about fire and movement and dance.  They're pagans.  It's a worship experience for them.  They work hard, and rehearse.  Most of their rehearsals are unlit, and then they'll do maybe one or two lit rehearsals of new material or with new members, before they perform in public.  The ones I know best are part of a multigenerational troupe, married couples, their children.  Their costumes and shows are sexy but not overly so.  They use live music.

They are fantastically successful as a busking act.  Because of the fire and the safety implications, they perform only where they are invited and where they can get insurance.  They get paid a little to show up by whatever event they're at and collect tips.  I would guess they gross around $100 per half hour show, maybe twice that on a good day.  They'll do six or seven shows a day.  Sounds like good money until you pay the insurance and inevitable costume and prop repairs and then divide it among 10 people.

And so they sit around and try to figure out ways to make more money just like the youtubers do.

They all have day jobs.

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This reminds me of a small clique of ultra-nerds, back in my college days the Late Pleistocene.  These guys were like, double-major biochemistry and physics and such.  Recognizing the need to maintain physical fitness, they eschewed mundane activities like running or basketball. Instead, they took up unicycle-riding and juggling.  One-wheeling around campus with huge stack of books under one arm and a smug expression of superiority.  I wonder where those guys ended up?  

/end diversion

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7 hours ago, toddster said:

This reminds me of a small clique of ultra-nerds, back in my college days the Late Pleistocene.  These guys were like, double-major biochemistry and physics and such.  Recognizing the need to maintain physical fitness, they eschewed mundane activities like running or basketball. Instead, they took up unicycle-riding and juggling.  One-wheeling around campus with huge stack of books under one arm and a smug expression of superiority.  I wonder where those guys ended up?  

/end diversion

They race J24s.

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  Just to go back to COPPA and why every channel on YouTube.com is freaking out;

  COPPA was passed in the Clintons 1st term, it was significantly increased in Obama's 2nd term.  It was rarely enforced, but it allows the Gov't to go after the platform as opposed to individual creators.  What has changed is that now YouTube has decided to automatically scrub anybody with content that involves anybody under an arbitrary age arbitrarily.  Families that involve their children their videos, done.  Along with a $175Mil fine against YouTube.

  Oddly, I suspect La Vag & Ste Greta will be exempt.  And the hypocrisy will be breezed over.

If you have an hour to kill, here it is in a nutshell.

 

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19 hours ago, dylan winter said:

I think the comparison with street performing is a good one

youtube is like busking - the performer is hoping that one per cent of the people  passing by will drop some cash in the pot. (actually for La vag et al it is more like 0.4 per cent)

It as if you  are doing something clever with a trombone or a fiddle and are earning some cash by busking and along comes a troop of fire-eaters not wearing many clothes - all the oxygen gets used up and the witty trombist gets blown out of the water.

I hear what you say about being able to find good content - but not through a search algorithmn.

the youtube street is packed with pulchitudinous performers while under a pillar somewhere in an underpass is some-one who is doing good work with 70 hits in three months

 

Thank you for this post Dylan.  Most impressive use of drones.

 

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7 hours ago, savoir said:

Thank you for this post Dylan.  Most impressive use of drones.

Hey, that was my post :)  I’m the person the YT algorithms can’t get, so I find my own content :).

The true story of how I found that video.  I was browsing around the web the other day looking for solar panel mounting ideas and remembered S/V Seal,  which I recall reading about many years ago —a seriously well fitted out high latitudes charter boat sailed by Hamish and Kate Laird (who, some may know, used to skipper Skip Novak’s S/V Pelagic down in Patagonia/Antarctica —see the book ‘Rounding the Horn’ for a good sailor’s account of sailing on Pelagic as a charter guest).

So off I went to expeditionsail.com’s site (where they have a few of their recent vids, refreshingly without any sort of YT eye candy — unless drone shots of the Aleutians and Prince William Sound are your kinda eye candy.)

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16 minutes ago, savoir said:

Holy jumpin' jibsheets Batman, you're right.  I saw it in Dylan's post.  It isn't in a quote box so I figured it was his.

It’s all good - no harm no foul, as the Brits say.  I was just wanting to tell the convoluted story of how I came across it.  (i.e., in a way more interesting, circuitous, almost serendipitous fashion than, “YouTube recommended it to me” :-) )

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On 12/13/2019 at 10:50 PM, dylan winter said:

pulchitudinous

Pulchritudinous.
Word of the week award.

Nah fuck it let’s make it word of the month.

Should come with a health warning though not to be used as a romantic descriptive issued to ones wife whilst seeking extras.

 

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7 hours ago, Priscilla said:

Pulchritudinous.
Word of the week award.

Nah fuck it let’s make it word of the month.

Should come with a health warning though not to be used as a romantic descriptive issued to ones wife whilst seeking extras.

 

I'm pretty sure that if I used that adjective to describe a female, she'd punch me right in the face.

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8 hours ago, Ajax said:

I'm pretty sure that if I used that adjective to describe a female, she'd punch me right in the face.

A friend, a schoolteacher, had significant trouble with a 12 year old girls parents after a written report saying he thought she was precocious. 

The first he found out was the heavy hand of authority suspending him until review of a complaint that he'd made lewd comments about their daughter. Fortunately Paul was intelligent and confident enough to immediately go over their heads with the full facts including that he was ignoring the suspension.

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Crikey you guys must have a penchant for pugilist bits of fluff.

Another word for pulchritudinous. adjective. Having qualities that delight the eye: attractive, beauteous, beautiful, comely, fair, good-looking, gorgeous, handsome, lovely, pretty, ravishing, sightly, stunning. ( Scots) bonny.

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A couple of years ago there was a successful diving vlog (very well shot) called drenched.  Lots of grabby thumbnails.

They spent some time on Delos and then bought a masssive old tub, filled it with 10 young people and started on what I am sure is the most expensive sailing vlog on the web.

I had not been offered any of their material in my youtube feed (too fulll  of  Trumpism) so I sought them out

this is their vids organised by hits

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCo1SVuhySkvvbMxWljBSY1g/videos?view=0&sort=p&flow=grid

and this by date

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCo1SVuhySkvvbMxWljBSY1g/videos?view=0&sort=dd&flow=grid

 

 

averaging 20,000 views per film - giving them a youtube income of about $50 a week - which will only just cover the lentil bill for their big crew.

Patreon income is now much harder to work out now  that most of  the  vloggers hide the income details

https://www.patreon.com/bePatron?u=4378177&redirect_uri=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.expeditiondrenched.org%2Fdonate.html&utm_medium=widget

I would have had them down as ticking all the right boxes.....

 

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55 minutes ago, Ajax said:

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Have to agree. What's the old line..."The way you look speaks so loud that I can't hear what you are saying"?   Yes, I sound like my grandmother back in the 1960s. But the fact is, if they want to have broad appeal in the vlog world, they need to think about how they present themselves. I smell patchouli and BO...but maybe that's just me.

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1 hour ago, dylan winter said:

I don't think they are hippies

 

and there is no evidence thqt they smell

 

certainly no worse than three old blokes on a 26 footer on a five day delivery trip

 

D

Hippies smell of BO and patchouli oil.

Old sailing blokes smell of damp wool, lamp oil and good tobacco. And also sometimes, rum.  I know which I prefer.  ;)

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1 hour ago, Israel Hands said:

Have to agree. What's the old line..."The way you look speaks so loud that I can't hear what you are saying"?   Yes, I sound like my grandmother back in the 1960s. But the fact is, if they want to have broad appeal in the vlog world, they need to think about how they present themselves. I smell patchouli and BO...but maybe that's just me.

The Wynns, who moved into yachting vids from RV vids  are impossibly fragrant

https://www.youtube.com/user/gonewiththewynns

 

https://www.youtube.com/user/gonewiththewynns/videos?view=0&sort=p&flow=grid

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I tried the more dramatic thumbnail and title approach, didn't change anything else. Helped views for sure. It seems the key word is Abandoned... Technically not clickbait because it is my boat and the title is true.... But views quadrupled. 

 

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2 hours ago, Zora said:

I tried the more dramatic thumbnail and title approach, didn't change anything else. Helped views for sure. It seems the key word is Abandoned... Technically not clickbait because it is my boat and the title is true.... But views quadrupled. 

 

If that's clickbait, it's weak as hell.  Nothing wrong with the word "abandoned" especially if it's true.

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2 hours ago, Ajax said:

If that's clickbait, it's weak as hell.  Nothing wrong with the word "abandoned" especially if it's true.

Fair Point.... i just always feel like using words like that overdramatise unnecessarily... 

33 minutes ago, MauiPunter said:

That belongs in the Zombie thread.  :D

She really did... but not anymore!

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7 hours ago, Zora said:

I tried the more dramatic thumbnail and title approach, didn't change anything else. Helped views for sure. It seems the key word is Abandoned... Technically not clickbait because it is my boat and the title is true.... But views quadrupled. 

 

Everyone likes disaster movies.....

FKT

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3 hours ago, toddster said:

It's a bit of a hot-button word around here... turns out that "abandoned" is millenial-speak for "I stole it."  

Really? New one on me and I have a millennial in the house.

Growing up in the early 70's in Cambridge Mass alongside smelly hippies the neighborhood kids would sometimes co-opt their language and values when it suited them. For instance if one needed a new bike you could grab a pair of bolt cutters and "liberate" one.   

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14 hours ago, Monkey Butler said:

Really? New one on me and I have a millennial in the house.

Growing up in the early 70's in Cambridge Mass alongside smelly hippies the neighborhood kids would sometimes co-opt their language and values when it suited them. For instance if one needed a new bike you could grab a pair of bolt cutters and "liberate" one.   

Hey, no one "owns" property, man!

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15 hours ago, zenmasterfred said:

Good on ya mate for the great progress on Zora and no, don't show us your tits but your girlfriend's tits would be appreciated.  WTF has happened, has this whole site got nipple free?  

You never know... you might like mine. Thanks for the kind words

14 hours ago, jonathanmcmanus said:

These fellas are kinda back.

http://www.seachangelog.com

 

Their work is outstanding, delighted to see/hear they may be back in action. 

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1 hour ago, dylan winter said:

Emerald steel - what do you think?

 

https://www.youtube.com/user/sujules/videos

six years ago they were one of the largest

188,000 views posted 6 years ago

this is their latest

31,000 this month

 

very illuminating

D

 

Nice couple but way too much talking head going on.

FKT

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4 hours ago, MauiPunter said:

All I can say is WOW

First ever refit vid result I watched till the end, most make me dull, this one was excellent. That violin... nice touch. Good balance of make it good and budget friendly.
So... wow too, watched a few older vids in snippets, she Canadian, he Swiss, did meet sailing in Med, she worked as cook on charter. And both owned a boat at that time, only a continent away. Worked together on this new one.

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26 minutes ago, LeoV said:

First ever refit vid result I watched till the end, most make me dull, this one was excellent. That violin... nice touch. Good balance of make it good and budget friendly.
So... wow too, watched a few older vids in snippets, she Canadian, he Swiss, did meet sailing in Med, she worked as cook on charter. And both owned a boat at that time, only a continent away. Worked together on this new one.

 

Ditto- ditto. I rarely even open the vids here but this is the first one I watched in it's entirety. Brilliant kids. The guy is skilled, they have great nautical design sense and can finish a project. I'll look it up and watch more. In fact our son and daughter are home from Boston and NYC for Xmas. I'll put it on the telly today. Thanks whoever posted this first and our diligent critics who weed out the schlock for me. :) 

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If you enjoy slow motion train wrecks here is one to watch......if you can get through them....truly agonizing......I just like to keep track of these shit shows just in case they get into my neighborhood.....gives me a chance to get out of Dodge.  They are now hanging in Luperon, DR waiting for a weather window to head through the Thorny Path........  Of course there is the obligatory T&A attempt coupled with land based solutions to blue water sailing.  Their episodes range from:

  • Painting their decks with Kilz primer as a base......
  • A review of their $5k Craigslist boat one year later......
  • What they refer to as their "Frankensail" sail shake down cruise in Luperon when they toast their engine.

Here is a linky to the "Frankensail" episode.....  

 

 

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Part of a long series that covers everything from fixing outboards to fishing in the Snowy Mountains, he is a great resource, covers his stuff ups, how his Land Rover was stolen, and a one legged chicken.

I binge watched a rebuild of his GMC Detroit Diesel,  a new genre of diesel motor porn..

Search Dangar Marine on YouTube.

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1 hour ago, olaf hart said:

Part of a long series that covers everything from fixing outboards to fishing in the Snowy Mountains, he is a great resource, covers his stuff ups, how his Land Rover was stolen, and a one legged chicken.

I binge watched a rebuild of his GMC Detroit Diesel,  a new genre of diesel motor porn..

Search Dangar Marine on YouTube.

OK I've seen one of his, maybe I should take a look a bit further.

FKT

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4 hours ago, yl75 said:

The Zingaro crew have lost their boat (or almost) :

http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/f48/s-v-zingaro-down-for-the-count-228277.html

 

They were dang lucky to be as close to shore as they were when the glued bits started rapidly disassembling.   Their quick thinking and execution of wrapping the hull to the remaining structure got them into harbor.

That boat is wet toast.   Good luck selling her remains to someone else...

- Stumbling

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