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3 hours ago, loneshark64 said:

bikinis, no (secretly yes)

Loud and proud yes. Points off for silicone. Are we not men? (TwoLeg - please don't answer that - or if you do, no references to colonialism)

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1 hour ago, toddster said:

If bikinis are a go, then I think we have to also accept slow-motion erotic dancing boat yoga.

I second the part that you crossed out. These boats have a pole stepped to the keel for a reason.

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2 hours ago, Lurker19 said:

The guy who made this video obviously has read the entirety of this thread.  He really only needed three or four minutes though....

 

It does drag on a little long, but if you watch it at double speed, it undoes the slo-mo, and comes in at just about four minutes.  Gotta hit mute though, or the sound-track gets even cheesier.

I definitely got a chuckle out of it.  Wasn't there a channel a few pages back that actually did try to send viewers over to their Onlyfans site?

 

Edit:  Mind you, How to sailing offers up some pretty basic stuff that most folks on this site learned long ago. 

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8 hours ago, toddster said:

If bikinis are a go, then I think we have to also accept slow-motion erotic dancing boat yoga.

i need a gender filter on the boat yoga...if the dude with the man bun shows up on deck in yoga pants, i'm out.

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13 hours ago, loneshark64 said:

brady, yes, riley, no

I like Riley.  One of the least pretentious of the male YouTube sailors, and he has a conscience.  

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9 hours ago, Israel Hands said:

Loud and proud yes. Points off for silicone. Are we not men? (TwoLeg - please don't answer that - or if you do, no references to colonialism)

I have to commend you guys for the sheer existence of your sexism ;) 

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8 hours ago, Lurker19 said:

The guy who made this video obviously has read the entirety of this thread.  He really only needed three or four minutes though....

 

To marks for the parody ... and for the most annoying theme music EVAH

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On 4/10/2021 at 3:19 AM, El Mariachi said:

My frickin' gawd.....those blue eyes.....

You aren't that good at picking fakes are you?

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Okay, I have a submission for Worst Sailing Vlog Ever.

Bobby's Doodles vlog is tacky, but even tacky can be fun sometimes, as if we are in on the joke.

But these two...they're just gauche. And they don't know it, which makes it even more painful.

 

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On 4/9/2021 at 12:31 PM, Lurker19 said:

The guy who made this video obviously has read the entirety of this thread.  He really only needed three or four minutes though....

 

Not a great sign when the "parody" is less entertaining than what they were trying to make fun of. The funniest part is imagining how funny whoever made this probably thought they were.

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Best Q&A session I've seen yet, the WindHippie puts real effort into this one

 

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2 hours ago, Israel Hands said:

Okay, I have a submission for Worst Sailing Vlog Ever.

Bobby's Doodles vlog is tacky, but even tacky can be fun sometimes, as if we are in on the joke.

But these two...they're just gauche. And they don't know it, which makes it even more painful.

 

Well, there goes 20 minutes of my life I will never get back.  Time to continue on my own boat cleaning/prepping therapy and appreciate my beautiful Admiral who has a brain and likes to sail.  And, no, you will never see us on any social media anywhere anyhow!  My life is a social media free zone!

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3 hours ago, Israel Hands said:

Okay, I have a submission for Worst Sailing Vlog Ever.

Bobby's Doodles vlog is tacky, but even tacky can be fun sometimes, as if we are in on the joke.

But these two...they're just gauche. And they don't know it, which makes it even more painful.

 

that is a wonderous thing on so many levels

 

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On 4/9/2021 at 1:10 AM, MauiPunter said:

I loved that series. I was so bummed they stopped making films.  It was just getting interesting....

(REFERRING TO SEA CHANGE)


Yeah, quite abrupt. The creators are on social media, one is doing the rounds of Alaska in a westsail 32 or some such.

 their site is still up at seachangelog.com, looks like they headed far south and stopped filming

i wonder if they just decided to stop to avoid becoming trashy YouTube stars  

atticus shows the inherent danger  hard to stay real 

Going through their comments, looks like they have a local fan:

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anyway, red epic plus commercial music license added to my wishlist 

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On 4/8/2021 at 2:50 PM, dylan winter said:

They do

Mine was a charmer until she was 12 when I suddenly went from most admired man in Britain to arse of the universe.

That period lasted until she was 17 when she became wonderful again.

 

During the bad years I would say something that i thought was clever and she would kill me with a single flick of a glance.

 

If you are the father of a teenage daughter, then hang on in there. They do come back.... eventually.

my wife explained that she was practising controlling something that is bigger and Dummer than her.

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I bought myself a T-shirt...

 

You Don't Scare Me I Have Three Daughters Funny Gift for

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11 hours ago, Israel Hands said:

Okay, I have a submission for Worst Sailing Vlog Ever.

Bobby's Doodles vlog is tacky, but even tacky can be fun sometimes, as if we are in on the joke.

But these two...they're just gauche. And they don't know it, which makes it even more painful.

 

They have a profound sort of incompetence that somehow lacks the charm of naïveté.

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11 hours ago, Israel Hands said:

Okay, I have a submission for Worst Sailing Vlog Ever.

Bobby's Doodles vlog is tacky, but even tacky can be fun sometimes, as if we are in on the joke.

But these two...they're just gauche. And they don't know it, which makes it even more painful.

 

Ear regardless, the blonde is seriously just smokin' hot....which is my #1 pre-requisite to watching any cruising video. So I'm giving the vid a 6....and the gal a 9....... :lol:

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7 hours ago, El Mariachi said:

Ear regardless, the blonde is seriously just smokin' hot....which is my #1 pre-requisite to watching any cruising video. So I'm giving the vid a 6....and the gal a 9....... :lol:

was pretty good with the sound off. 

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3 hours ago, loneshark64 said:

was pretty good with the sound off. 

The films are a marvelous thing...... and free at the point of delivery.

They make la vag and the Wynns seem geriatric.

Out with old and in with the new

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12 hours ago, 2airishuman said:

They have a profound sort of incompetence that somehow lacks the charm of naïveté.

This. An endless expanse of ass can't make up for that.

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On 4/15/2021 at 12:00 PM, Israel Hands said:

Okay, I have a submission for Worst Sailing Vlog Ever.

Bobby's Doodles vlog is tacky, but even tacky can be fun sometimes, as if we are in on the joke.

But these two...they're just gauche. And they don't know it, which makes it even more painful.

 

Ughh!  Not this pair again (define "pair" how you will).  I was foolish enough to skim the first one of their videos that popped up here.  I promised myself never again.

Yet I can tell that every time I scroll past one of their thumbnails, I'm going to be tempted to watch.  It's like the reverse of the old Seinfeld line about the painting of Kramer ("he is a loathsome, offensive brute, yet I can't look away").  I can't look away, yet they are ... well, pretty awful.

 

 

 

 

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I don't think things have changed much. We used to get our sailing media largely, in print. 

Most of it arrived monthly. Editors of magazines and books, filmmakers, would pick the best material to suit their medium (cruising, sailing, racing, fettling). 

There were fewer sailing genre Rockstars, then, and we knew them all. 

Today we have Youtube. It is becoming THE sailing media outlet. Even magazines - what's left of them - are using it.

We still get the rockstars and the best sailing media artists, on Youtube. 

But we get more from Youtube: We get the bin, too.  

All the material that was thrown out by the old sailing editors is delivered - everyday - from Youtube. 

The good stuff is in Youtube, somewhere.

We are the editors in this thread. Is Youtube reading?   

 

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On 4/9/2021 at 5:59 PM, TwoLegged said:

I have to commend you guys for the sheer existence of your sexism ;) 

If it wasn't for sailors who appreciated hot sailorettes.....your cruising kittys would be completely  blown on batteries and Tinder ads.....:lol:

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On 4/11/2021 at 3:05 AM, Randro said:

You aren't that good at picking fakes are you?

Don't matter....I like my Gals like I like my cars.....over 40, and with a shit load of well-placed curves.....

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On 4/15/2021 at 2:28 PM, Laurent said:

I bought myself a T-shirt...

 

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I once heard my Dad tell some slightly rude,  Martini'd out dude at our Baja surf spot one afternoon 'If you're trying scare me Pal, it ain't gonna work.....'cuz I've been married & divorced four fuking times.'

 

Gawd damn but I miss that man......:lol:

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OK, this is a little different.  Somewhere between Roger Barnes and Yrvind.

Guy builds his own small sailing boat/dinghy.  Seems like kindof traditional rig/lines, but made out of carbon fibre (hell, the damn thing's practically transparent).  He heads out poking around San Francisco Bay, and it sounds like his biggest goal is to make it all the way from Berkeley out to the Golden Gate bridge.  He seems to be having fun, knows what he knows and knows what he doesn't know.

And a distinct lack of either bikinis or manbuns.  Goodonim!

 

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5 hours ago, Corryvreckan said:

Ughh!  Not this pair again (define "pair" how you will).  I was foolish enough to skim the first one of their videos that popped up here.  I promised myself never again.

Yet I can tell that every time I scroll past one of their thumbnails, I'm going to be tempted to watch.  It's like the reverse of the old Seinfeld line about the painting of Kramer ("he is a loathsome, offensive brute, yet I can't look away").  I can't look away, yet they are ... well, pretty awful.

 

 

 

 

As a public service to all of you I watched two of their videos. The good one was #2 or 3 in their feed which has zero to do with sailing and is just the girl trying on one bikini after another for 10 minutes after going on some bikini modeling gig and getting a bunch of free bikinis. Initially I thought jeez I hope my wife doesn’t come in here and see me watching this but after a few minutes I decided that if she does catch me, fuck it, I am watching it, it’s worth it. I think the whackos over in political anarchy should be required to watch this video. Also that dude who is obsessed with “brexit brexit wtf”. It would do them a world of good. I personally learned a great deal about bikinis.

The other video featured the girl’s dad in the dinghy exhibiting the most egregious example of middle aged man-spreading I have ever witnessed. My retinas are permanently damaged; there are some things you can’t un-see.

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On 4/15/2021 at 5:19 PM, Kris Cringle said:

I don't follow them but I see Lavagabond is endorsed by Doyle Sails. 

I guess this says Doyle endorses them because they are #1 Youtube sailing genre, and they are buff? 

 

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With a build like that, yer mind's eye blocks out the Sean Penn-lookin' goof and the kid

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1 minute ago, Israel Hands said:
On 4/15/2021 at 5:19 PM, Kris Cringle said:

I don't follow them but I see Lavagabond is endorsed by Doyle Sails. 

I guess this says Doyle endorses them because they are #1 Youtube sailing genre, and they are buff? 

 

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With a build like that, yer mind's eye blocks out the Sean Penn-lookin' goof and the kid

Now I finally understand what Doyle means by “stack pack”.

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12 minutes ago, loneshark64 said:

Initially I thought jeez I hope my wife doesn’t come in here and see me watching this but after a few minutes I decided that if she does catch me, fuck it, I am watching it, it’s worth it. I think the whackos over in political anarchy should be required to watch this video. Also that dude who is obsessed with “brexit brexit wtf”. It would do them a world of good. I personally learned a great deal about bikinis.

Post of the day! :lol:

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19 minutes ago, loneshark64 said:

As a public service to all of you I watched two of their videos. The good one was #2 or 3 in their feed which has zero to do with sailing and is just the girl trying on one bikini after another for 10 minutes after going on some bikini modeling gig and getting a bunch of free bikinis. Initially I thought jeez I hope my wife doesn’t come in here and see me watching this but after a few minutes I decided that if she does catch me, fuck it, I am watching it, it’s worth it. I think the whackos over in political anarchy should be required to watch this video. Also that dude who is obsessed with “brexit brexit wtf”. It would do them a world of good. I personally learned a great deal about bikinis. It is clear that this couple knows exactly fuck all about sailing but she is very good at bikini-wearing.

The other video was some ridiculous sailing, and featured the girl’s dad in the dinghy exhibiting the most egregious example of middle aged man-spreading I have ever witnessed. My retinas are permanently damaged; there are some things you can’t un-see.

I'm proud to say that back in the late 70's & early 80', I was asked more than once to walk up from the pier and help choose a bikini or 14 at Mickies for our many numerous hot beach gals that we all hung out with on the sand. This usually happened around the beginning of May.....and I looked forward to it each year like a little Kid waiting for Santa.....:lol:

 

 

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29 minutes ago, El Mariachi said:

Link to said Bikini School #2 & #3......please?......:lol:

It's here.  It's filmed in portrait format with flat lighting and only one camera angle in front of a boring background.  I suppose I would have found it to be erotic in 1982.  Then again in 1982 I found the bra and panty section of the Sears Roebuck catalog to be pretty exciting.

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Mr. Sears & Mr. Roebuck pretty much got me to give up Tonka toys, Revell models & Legos.....and begin to focus instead on cheap lingerie, interesting body curves and girls that smelled much better than the boring ass denizens in my aquarium.....

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Jeezis key-rhyst but those first 3 or 4 bathing suits were beyond horrendous. Ugh.....this gal needs to come to Manhattan Beach and check out Mickies and get learnicated on.....beach style...:lol:

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7 hours ago, El Mariachi said:

interesting body curves and girls that smelled much better than the boring ass denizens in my aquarium

At 16 I got an after-school job at a clothing store. I quickly learned how to mark up pants and suits for alternations. Before long I was the go-to alterations kid for girls coming into the store who wanted their corduroy Levis custom-fit.  Dream job.  

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1 hour ago, Israel Hands said:

At 16 I got an after-school job at a clothing store. I quickly learned how to mark up pants and suits for alternations. Before long I was the go-to alterations kid for girls coming into the store who wanted their corduroy Levis custom-fit.  Dream job.  

I am old enough to have worn corduroy as a teenager.  The kids today reckon that makes me a predecessor to dinosaur age

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24 minutes ago, TwoLegged said:

I am old enough to have worn corduroy as a teenager.  The kids today reckon that makes me a predecessor to dinosaur age

Someone say corduroy?......:lol:

 

(thinking this pic was taken in 1972....which was almost a half century ago. Jeezis but WHERE does the time go?).....:D

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55 minutes ago, bridhb said:

Pucka shells!  What ever happen to Mike Purpus?

He's still a(round) & kicking....:D

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1 hour ago, dylan winter said:

Sailing cadoha

$2700 per million views

It took them 16 months to get their million

 

1,000,000 views. That's not easy on Youtube.

We've been having more fun now that I can round out Youtube dollars to $2.50 USD for 1 k views.

As we watch a talented travel-food-history- vlogger, Mary Ann can ask, 'Tom, what have they made so far?' 

They made $17.50 so I think they covered that lunch that was filmed. 

 

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Reminds me of the old saying;

 

'How do you make a million dollars in the yacht building business?'

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Start off with 2 million......

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8 hours ago, dylan winter said:

Sailing cadoha

$2700 per million views

It took them 16 months to get their million

 

Frankly, the idea of a million people looking at me sort of creeps me out.  :(

Like something I might even pay to avoid...

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Just now, toddster said:

Frankly, the idea of a million people looking at me sort of creeps me out.  :(

Depends on what I was doing. If I was doing Depends, then not so much.

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Well you know when you neatly back into the slip and step off calmly with no drama, that’s because nobody was watching.  

 

(Whereas today, the genoa somehow got hung up on the radome and I could not get the fucker off - directly in front of the beach with a hundred people staring.)

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2 minutes ago, toddster said:

Well you know when you neatly back into the slip and step off calmly with no drama, that’s because nobody was watching.  

 

(Whereas today, the genoa somehow got hung up on the radome and I could not get the fucker off - directly in front of the beach with a hundred people staring.)

Some of my worst tacks happened with many people watching. My best tacks, not so much. Although I do remember doing a beautiful tack right at the gas dock that left people ducking. Luckily, I didn't snag the building.

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6 hours ago, El Mariachi said:

Reminds me of the old saying;

 

'How do you make a million dollars in the yacht building business?'

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Start off with 2 million......

I thought you had to start out with 5 million, otherwise you end up upside down by 3 mil.

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16 minutes ago, zenmasterfred said:

I thought you had to start out with 5 million, otherwise you end up upside down by 3 mil.

Dunno. It’s not exactly as if a million dollars was a lot of money these days

 

 

Seriously, half a dozen little owner-built shacks perched on goat trails around here have sold for a million bucks this year.  It’s like cloud-cuckoo land.  And those guys are prolly buying boats...

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4 hours ago, zenmasterfred said:

I thought you had to start out with 5 million, otherwise you end up upside down by 3 mil.

Inflation. And shit.....:lol:

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3 hours ago, dylan winter said:

And this

Sign of the times

Vloggers giving up the video business

That was more depressing than rewatching Koyaanisqatsi, mainly because it was less kitschy than a twinkie production line and therefore more difficult to dismiss.

In my Misspent Youth (tm) I entertained the happy fantasy that I could cover my film and camera costs and perhaps make a little money selling stock photography.  I sold a slide or two and got millions of views on Wikipedia before realizing that the pie was shrinking and had never been big enough to support more than a lucky and privileged few, the firstest with the mostest, who happened to crack the code before anyone else.  Some things never change.

I am struck more than anything though by the technical, artistic, and storytelling qualities of the brief clips in the compilation.  Real artistry there.

So now we know that the window has largely closed and sailing videos are an amateur medium with no profit potential.  Is that bad?

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2 minutes ago, 2airishuman said:

So now we know that the window has largely closed and sailing videos are an amateur medium with no profit potential.  Is that bad?

Not in my mind.

The fact that people have a desire to do certain things in no way implies that they have a right to make money from doing those things. If there's a demand, it will be filled. If there's an oversupply, and IMO there is by the very nature of YouTube, then the higher quality productions keep getting views, provided they're doing something interesting. The others, the dreams die and they have to turn to other activities.

I like watching the 'Cruising the Cut' vids but there's no way at all I'd watch the van life ones from the same man.

I also wonder how much RAN Sailing has dropped viewer numbers now they're basically going nowhere. The last one was mainly about how their diesel heater had shagged itself and it was cold in the boat.

FKT

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1 hour ago, Fah Kiew Tu said:

If there's an oversupply, and IMO there is by the very nature of YouTube, then the higher quality productions keep getting views, provided they're doing something interesting. The others, the dreams die and they have to turn to other activities.

I don't think that quality is what gets views. Mass appeal gets views, so plenty of tits gets more hits than exquisite landscape.

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2 hours ago, Fah Kiew Tu said:

I also wonder how much RAN Sailing has dropped viewer numbers now they're basically going nowhere. The last one was mainly about how their diesel heater had shagged itself and it was cold in the boat.

 

I don't think that's uniquely a RAN problem.  I think they've all had that to a greater or lesser degree.

-Delos spent 6 months partying on a beach and getting groceries.

-Wynns spent 6 months rescuing kittens.

-The Magic Carpet folks spent 6 months stuck in nowheresville, France.

-Somebody else was stuck in the St. Martin lagoon.

While its better now, no-one is really going anywhere yet.  Most of these folks will be stuck until after the hurricane season.  Get ready for lots of water maker maintenance videos.

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1 hour ago, Lurker19 said:

I don't think that's uniquely a RAN problem.  I think they've all had that to a greater or lesser degree.

Yes I agree. And there's only so much 'fettling' and actual boat building I can bear to watch. A lot of it reminds me far too much of hard dirty work. A bit like working on the wiring behind the dash of my Subaru - I don't want to do it and I most definitely don't want to watch someone else doing it.

But I'm not trying to maintain a cash flow from Patreon and others to fund my lifestyle.

FKT

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51 minutes ago, Fah Kiew Tu said:

Yes I agree. And there's only so much 'fettling' and actual boat building I can bear to watch. A lot of it reminds me far too much of hard dirty work. A bit like working on the wiring behind the dash of my Subaru - I don't want to do it and I most definitely don't want to watch someone else doing it.

But I'm not trying to maintain a cash flow from Patreon and others to fund my lifestyle.

FKT

The combination of youtube algorithms and its love of bikininis and 4 x a month newness and the patreon system of coughing up per film regardless of quality has had a deleterious effect.

It has spurred creativity when attempting to turn an oily sump into a whole episode with sadness, happiness, despair, joy and bad advice.

Never did like patron.

 

The dollar per film.... or one pound per film as in the cut man .... has in some measure restored the long tail.... where people got paid for films they made some years in the past.

 

30,000 paid views on via my website were enough to get me a shit fisher....

30,000 you tube views are worth $70....a take away meal for three....provided you do not have any music or have not been demonetised by the Google algorithm.

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Ps.... the long tail...has been swallowed by Google

http://www.ip.finance/2017/04/the-indie-film-industry-still-looking.html?m=

 

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I think it was Eluega that posted this:  

Very very nice work. No soft porn, no cloying selfies, nobody eating food in their selfies, no words, just beautiful scenery, good music and, (wait for it), sailing. Unfortunately, they haven't done another. 

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15 hours ago, dylan winter said:

And this

Sign of the times

Vloggers giving up the video business

 

 

 

Some have gone away, and then there are those that should go away, but refuse to.

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2 hours ago, Ajax said:

 

Some have gone away, and then there are those that should go away, but refuse to.

Making them go away is very easy. One click on the youtube feed and poof....gone

 

This one appeared in my feed as I was looking at Scottish sailing films to see if there was anything new I could say about the place

 

It takes all sorts

 

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14 hours ago, dylan winter said:

Making them go away is very easy. One click on the youtube feed and poof....gone

 

This one appeared in my feed as I was looking at Scottish sailing films to see if there was anything new I could say about the place

 

It takes all sorts

 

I just hope that there will be no bikini thumbnails and sexual pandering.

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5 hours ago, Dogscout said:

I just hope that there will be no bikini thumbnails and sexual pandering.

*(said no hetero male sailor.....ever).....:lol:

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1 hour ago, El Mariachi said:

*(said no hetero male sailor.....ever).....:lol:

You clearly haven't seen the couple on that video...

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7 hours ago, Dogscout said:

I just hope that there will be no bikini thumbnails and sexual pandering.

shudder...

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21 hours ago, dylan winter said:

Making them go away is very easy. One click on the youtube feed and poof....gone

 

This one appeared in my feed as I was looking at Scottish sailing films to see if there was anything new I could say about the place

 

It takes all sorts

 

The do seem to be better sailors than 90% of the 'tubers out there. 

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