WTF Australia

[Happy 1,421]

So you agree that the recent shark attacks were caused by global warming?

Possibly global warming causes you to immediately call someone who disagrees with you various types of cunt? 

I could call you a brain-dead Green fuckwit lacking the intellectual capacity to do your own research and make up your own mind instead of sucking up the propaganda and loudly parroting the lines.

But I won't do that, too rude.

 

 

[random 160]

Have you ever heard of whales?  Dead ones?  How about the fact that people actually live permanently at Cid harbour and throw their scraps over the side every fucking day?

I was there two years ago for a few nights, met a guy the locals call The Mayor of Cid Harbour,  because he lives there, so do others.  Once there are permanent residents on the surface then that attracts other permanent residents under the surface. 

I put a line over the side near where two of the attacks happened and boated two of the biggest Golden Trevally I have ever seen.  One of them we had to get in the tender to chase and keep away from the anchor chain.

But it's the boom in whale numbers sustaining the shark fleet.

That aside, you are a dumb cunt.  Get an education for fucks sake, at least catch up to the 12 year olds who clearly have a handle on the latest science.

 

[Ed Lada 2,831]

6 hours ago, random said:

Have you ever heard of whales?  Dead ones?  How about the fact that people actually live permanently at Cid harbour and throw their scraps over the side every fucking day?

I was there two years ago for a few nights, met a guy the locals call The Mayor of Cid Harbour,  because he lives there, so do others.  Once there are permanent residents on the surface then that attracts other permanent residents under the surface. 

I put a line over the side near where two of the attacks happened and boated two of the biggest Golden Trevally I have ever seen.  One of them we had to get in the tender to chase and keep away from the anchor chain.

But it's the boom in whale numbers sustaining the shark fleet.

That aside, you are a dumb cunt.  Get an education for fucks sake, at least catch up to the 12 year olds who clearly have a handle on the latest science.

 

Were you using a fence post for bait?

[LB 15 5,040]

9 hours ago, random said:

Just added you to the list of stupid cunts Hoppy.  There are a few about.

Oh ... one more thing ... get a fucking brain you stupid cunt.

The school children are getting an education, something you missed out on.

Yes they are being taught that a proposed coal mine caused coral bleaching two years ago. I will give you points to the genitalia reference however. 

[LB 15 5,040]

8 hours ago, random said:

Have you ever heard of whales?  Dead ones?  How about the fact that people actually live permanently at Cid harbour and throw their scraps over the side every fucking day?

I was there two years ago for a few nights, met a guy the locals call The Mayor of Cid Harbour,  because he lives there, so do others.  Once there are permanent residents on the surface then that attracts other permanent residents under the surface. 

I put a line over the side near where two of the attacks happened and boated two of the biggest Golden Trevally I have ever seen.  One of them we had to get in the tender to chase and keep away from the anchor chain.

But it's the boom in whale numbers sustaining the shark fleet.

That aside, you are a dumb cunt.  Get an education for fucks sake, at least catch up to the 12 year olds who clearly have a handle on the latest science.

 

You go to the Whitsundays and hang out a Cid Harbour? What a punter. Did you have a big night at Beaches before you picked up your charter boat as well? What boat were you on- Hammer or Condor?

[random 160]

1 hour ago, LB 15 said:

You go to the Whitsundays and hang out a Cid Harbour? What a punter. Did you have a big night at Beaches before you picked up your charter boat as well? What boat were you on- Hammer or Condor?

Just me and the owner of large luxury cat.  I flew up when his wife had to return home for family matters.  Someone had to mind him.

We had a one night at Cid heading out and one one the way back.  Had an awesome time.

[Flatbag 51]

On 12/10/2018 at 9:53 PM, mad said:

Good to see the stakeholders involved in this conversation.

[Point Break 2,902]

Interesting possibility.........

 

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26 minutes ago, Point Break said:

Interesting possibility.........

 

Would explain why the rest of the world is so fucking weird.

[Flatbag 51]

6 minutes ago, Ease the sheet. said:

Would explain why the rest of the world is so fucking weird.

It explains all the pollution off west coast USA.

[Ishmael 6,438]

53 minutes ago, Flatbag said:

It explains all the pollution off west coast USA.

Now I know why so many people think that Vancouver is the cat's ass.

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1 hour ago, Ishmael said:

Now I know why so many people think that Vancouver is the cat's ass.

Isn't Vancouver one of the great cities of the world? Seems a hard place to lick.......

[random 160]

16 hours ago, Ed Lada said:

Were you using a fence post for bait?

No I went into Sawmill Bay and caught live herring in a cast net,  One cast and back to the cat.  Aerator in the bucket to keep them alive.

Put the first one and went inside for a beer.  Screaming reel time.  After we gaffed it and gave it the last rights with the priest (aluminim baseball bat), we let it lay on the back of the cat while I ensured that the beer did not get warm.  While I was telling my mate how I couldn't believe that the fish had not been taken by a shark because we had taken so long to get it in ... we heard this banging about and a large splash!

The fish had not been killed but just knocked unconscious.  It came to and flapped about until it fell into the water, still connected to both the gaff and the line.  I managed to get to the rod just in time to save it from also going overboard.  The fish got a second life and took 50m of line before I could adjust the drag!  So then I really thought it would be taken by a man in a grey flannel suit as it was now bleeding from the gaff hole.

Anyway it ended well.  Fish re-boated.  So we had another beer and didn't put another bait in the water for fear of connecting with another one of those fucking animals.  Too much work when we were trying to relax! 

The Mayor of Cid Harbour was moored near us and he said that our fish was not one of the really big ones.  Fuck that then, no more fishing here.

[dreadom 226]

[Point Break 2,902]

2 minutes ago, dreadom said:

Dude......that’s funny......

[random 160]

"Standing at the limit of an endless ocean
Stranded like a runaway, lost at sea"

[FinnFish 206]

Packers new $200M runabout.

 

[random 160]

40 minutes ago, FinnFish said:

Packers new $200M runabout.

 

That should help his mental health problems.

[random 160]

3 hours ago, FinnFish said:

Packers new $200M runabout.

 

It's hard to know if the boat is the solution or a symptom of the problem.

"Events moved swiftly last week with the announcement last Wednesday that he had resigned as a director of Crown Resorts for mental health reasons. By Friday he was photographed arriving in Mexico with his closest friends, including Jalland and Ben Tilley. "

[Shortforbob 2,255]

Bit wet.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-14/victorian-forecasters-predicting-more-rain/10617864

That was about 6pm.

Hate to be out about an hour ago..even worse. 3am..rain just washed my windows..under the veranda..and my bedroom ceiling's sprung a leak

[random 160]

Meli it seems there is no empathy available from this site.  Best not to expect it.

Well perhaps 'thoughts and prayers' after another mass shooting in the US is the exception but that's the usual disingenuous shit.

Sorry about the leak in the roof, they are real pricks to fix sometimes.

[Shortforbob 2,255]

I'm hoping it was just because the wind was driving water under the tiles. it was horizontal last night and from the north, like a pressure hose.

a PITA on a two story house but no need for empathy..some people suffered real damage.

Bright side..front of the house is nice and clean for christmas

[random 160]

Tiles make a poor roof.  They can leak, they can blow away, they can be smashed by hail, and if that does not happen, the 'pointing' will crack and let water damage your ceiling.

In Australia a well screwed down steel roof is required.  I have no idea why insurance companies write policies for houses with tile roofs.

[Fah Kiew Tu 2,100]

3 hours ago, random said:

Tiles make a poor roof.  They can leak, they can blow away, they can be smashed by hail, and if that does not happen, the 'pointing' will crack and let water damage your ceiling.

In Australia a well screwed down steel roof is required.  I have no idea why insurance companies write policies for houses with tile roofs.

Amazing. It's taken you until the 16th of December but you've actually managed to make a correct post in 2018.

Well done. Maybe next year you'll be able to double your score.

I wouldn't have a tile roof either - every house I've built has had a Colorbond steel roof. Bit noisier but the peace of mind is well worth it especially in the season where a big thunderstorm might roll in and dump an enormous amount of hail on Sydney. Tile roofs get pulverised and collapse; steel roofs just get dented.

FKT

[Shortforbob 2,255]

3 hours ago, random said:

Tiles make a poor roof.  They can leak, they can blow away, they can be smashed by hail, and if that does not happen, the 'pointing' will crack and let water damage your ceiling.

In Australia a well screwed down steel roof is required.  I have no idea why insurance companies write policies for houses with tile roofs.

keeps the house cooler thus reducing your carbon footprint. and repairs are easier, they last longer and dont rust.

I wonder which is more environmentally sustainable to manufacture..90 sm of steel or 90sm of terra cotta?

My roof's prolly at least 90 years old..I've been up into the attic..no apparent holes..My old tin roof was only 50 YO leaked like a sieve every time we had a big downpour. Hopping up there with a peice of tin and a tube of silicone every couple of years was a PITA.

[random 160]

I think it was in the 1990's when a hail storm went through Sydney and smashed thousands of tiled house roofs.  I was flying in regularly at the time and it took more than two years before I stopped seeing blue and yellow tarps.  Fuck that.   Roof goes and you ceiling collapses, entire house fucked.

Poor design is an understatement.  Fine for the midlands of England.

[Shortforbob 2,255]

2 minutes ago, random said:

I think it was in the 1990's when a hail storm went through Sydney and smashed thousands of tiled house roofs.  I was flying in regularly at the time and it took more than two years before I stopped seeing blue and yellow tarps.  Fuck that.   Roof goes and you ceiling collapses, entire house fucked.

Poor design is an understatement.  Fine for the midlands of England.

I suppose it's not a one size fits all situation. 

But, just guessing, from an environmental POV I think terra cotta is better from the original manufacture, to energy consumption during their lifetime, to recycling...you can and people do, recycle terra cotta tiles. Never seen a colourbond roof re used.. the tin maybe..after it's been melted and recast 

[random 160]

10 minutes ago, Shortforbob said:

But, just guessing, from an environmental POV I think

Yep, you need to remember that the next time a hail storm is coming your way.

[Shortforbob 2,255]

Just now, random said:

Yep, you need to remember that the next time a hail storm is coming your way.

hmm..I thought good environmentalists put the planet before the hip pocket

[Shortforbob 2,255]

14 minutes ago, random said:

Yep, you need to remember that the next time a hail storm is coming your way.

I would have thought that really big hail ..big enough to crack terra cotta would ding the colourbond, possibly around the overlaps enough to warp it and let water in? Maybe those tarps you saw from the air were where the tin blew off?

Tin's better in bushfire prone area's, Tiles better for heat and longevity ...........and the environment

[random 160]

8 minutes ago, Shortforbob said:

I would have thought that really big hail ..big enough to crack terra cotta would ding the colourbond, possibly around the overlaps enough to warp it and let water in? Maybe those tarps you saw from the air were where the tin blew off?

Tin's better in bushfire prone area's, Tiles better for heat and longevity ...........and the environment

Maybe maybe  maybe?  Maybe you have no idea what you are talking about?

[Shortforbob 2,255]

8 minutes ago, random said:

Maybe maybe  maybe?  Maybe you have no idea what you are talking about?

Maybe, but I see you're not refuting my assertion that tile rooves have a lower carbon footprint 

[random 160]

1 hour ago, Shortforbob said:

Maybe, but I see you're not refuting my assertion that tile rooves have a lower carbon footprint 

You made a fact free claim good for you.  Why do expect me to chime in?

[Shortforbob 2,255]

43 minutes ago, random said:

You made a fact free claim good for you.  Why do expect me to chime in?

Is it a fact free claim? you're the forums environmental warrior

[Shortforbob 2,255]

4 minutes ago, VOA said:

You’re making the claim, it’s up to you to support it. 

Why don’t you take it PA instead of dirtying this board with your petty squabbling

And this thread is our little oz corner..our rules. Discussing the merits of clay over steel is not political anyway.

and 

https://www.constructionspecifier.com/minimizing-environmental-impacts-with-clay-roofing/

Now why don't you take you're self off back to the pub?.. 

[Debil's advokaat 0]

On 12/14/2018 at 6:15 PM, VOA said:

Nothing to say about the environmental impact it has & will make then?

Now..take your petty squabbles off to PA 

[Mid 3,091]

1 minute ago, Debil's advokaat said:

/Now..take your petty squabbles off to PA 

seen what's in SA lately ?

the days of politics being confined to PA are over .

[Shortforbob 2,255]

14 minutes ago, Mid said:

seen what's in SA lately ?

the days of politics being confined to PA are over .

The Britex thread? yeah i saw that..I think as long as its sailing related it passes the hammer...OTOH..zapper might be on holiday ..he did pin that unsubtle reminder to keep ourselves nice.

I wouldn't put any money on your claim. Voice of Asshattery would call my Whale thread out as being political if he could get away with it. 

[Mid 3,091]

bit wet in Tully ...................

 

 

[Ed Lada 2,831]

On 12/14/2018 at 6:56 PM, Shortforbob said:

Bit wet.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-14/victorian-forecasters-predicting-more-rain/10617864

That was about 6pm.

Hate to be out about an hour ago..even worse. 3am..rain just washed my windows..under the veranda..and my bedroom ceiling's sprung a leak

Thoughts and prayers Meli.

[LB 15 5,040]

15 hours ago, VOA said:

You’re making the claim, it’s up to you to support it. 

Why don’t you take it PA instead of dirtying this board with your petty squabbling

Let them have at it. I love it when the socialist children fight. Bent V Randumb is one of my favourite regular match ups. Intellectual midget wrestling. 

[FinnFish 206]

Lefties needing donations in the NT.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-14/nt-government-financial-report-commonwealth-bailout/10621136

 

[Recidivist 589]

3 hours ago, FinnFish said:

Lefties needing donations in the NT.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-14/nt-government-financial-report-commonwealth-bailout/10621136

 

This isn't the first time the Territory's been in this situation.  The last time it was the righties who built up the debt and the lefties who had to fix it.

The previous RW government were corrupt, incompetent and cared not a whit for the Territory and it's people.  They were thrown out as they should have been.  But the new lot seriously have never looked like they have a plan.  Deer in the headlights is, I think, the saying.

One major problem is the very small (and reducing) population.  Between both sides there isn't enough talent to form a decent cabinet, let alone one side forming a government.  2019 isn't going to be a pretty year.

[Point Break 2,902]

4 minutes ago, Recidivist said:

One major problem is the very small (and reducing) population.  Between both sides there isn't enough talent to form a decent cabinet, let alone one side forming a government.  2019 isn't going to be a pretty year.

That’s odd. Why is population getting smaller? 

[Recidivist 589]

15 minutes ago, Point Break said:

That’s odd. Why is population getting smaller? 

A major construction project ($50B LNG plant) is winding up the construction stage, which means the loss of thousands of jobs.  Most of those people are FIFO, and are returning to their home states.  There is nothing on the horizon of a scale that could reverse those flows.  On top of that, the Territory is a very harsh environment and it's getting worse.  People stay until retirement and then leave for kinder conditions.  Because of the small scale, there are many fields of endeavour that are not available, so kids leave to work in larger cities (my son left 11 years ago, when he was 17, and lives in Sydney which is the only place to work in his field).  This reduces family ties and makes it easier to leave.  The loss of population results in less taxation income (collected by the Federal Government and distributed to the states and Territories under a formula that is mostly population based).  Less income means higher rates of local taxation and less public sector jobs.  It's a spiral that needs some vision to arrest.

[Fah Kiew Tu 2,100]

2 hours ago, Point Break said:

That’s odd. Why is population getting smaller? 

Darwin is a hot, humid shit-hole.

And that's during the 'dry' season.

FKT

[Recidivist 589]

11 minutes ago, Fah Kiew Tu said:

Darwin is a hot, humid shit-hole.

And that's during the 'dry' season.

FKT

Harsh FKT!  Especially from someone who lives in Tasmania!

There's a strong association between my arrival in Darwin and ceasing to sail to Hobart every year as some sort of ritual self-flagellation.  Tassie is a lovely place, but too cold to support intelligent life. 

[Fah Kiew Tu 2,100]

12 minutes ago, Recidivist said:

Tassie is a lovely place, but too cold to support intelligent life. 

This is true. Praise the Lord for it, too.

My new boat is lying alongside the fitting out wharf for a weekly rate roughly equivalent to the daily rate in Sydney. Which is where I am ATM. Too bloody hot & humid and *waaaaaaay* too many people.

Give me the plant life of Tasmania any day at this time of year.

FKT

[DtM 561]

4 hours ago, Point Break said:

That’s odd. Why is population getting smaller? 

To get this thread back on track ...

Because they are getting killed by crocodiles, sharks, snakes, spiders, buffalo, kangaroos and all our other deadly wildlife !!!!!

[Shortforbob 2,255]

Well I said it was a bit wet on Friday and Saturday.

Had to close 4 of our 5 libraries today and at least two will be closed until new year.

1 ceiling collapsed over the workroom and study area..lost all the Mags, journals and periodicals ..no one hurt .

2 Wall of water hit the new enclosed portico, flooded half the Library floor.

3 Water running down the walls of the server room.

4 flooded and ceiling leaks, fried all the electrics.

Oddly the main library that usually leaks like a sieve in normal storms was fine.

This is really unusual, actually historic I believe, wind and rain from the north.

 

[FinnFish 206]

18 hours ago, DtM said:

To get this thread back on track ...

Public transport suddenly seems more attractive.

https://www.sunshinecoastdaily.com.au/news/rush-hour-shock-as-woman-strips-and-dances-on-sydn/3604269/

 

[random 160]

 

[Shortforbob 2,255]

I have never heard a Blowie being called a dunny budgie...someones been indulging in too much McKenzie.

[random 160]

Well it's been a while since we had 'dunny's'.

As a very small child I recall us living with an outdoor dunny.  The reason I even remember it is that was terrified that the 'dunny man' was going to arrive while I was there.

This is what Meli had to go through to get in.

 

[olaf hart 608]

Happy Christmas

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-24/funnel-web-spider-warning-as-numbers-increase/10666344

[Fah Kiew Tu 2,100]

Jealousy is so unbecoming......

 

[Shortforbob 2,255]

 

 

Truly a WTF moment

 https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-31/cane-toads-hitch-ride-on-monty-the-python-back/10675944

[Alhadder 483]

On 12/28/2018 at 5:16 PM, Fah Kiew Tu said:

Jealousy is so unbecoming......

 

That is very good FKT. Happy New Year btw from WA.

[DtM 561]

https://www.smh.com.au/national/poppy-was-on-a-kindergarten-class-bushwalk-when-she-stepped-on-a-tiger-snake-20181220-p50ndn.html

Here are some more nice stories.

[Fah Kiew Tu 2,100]

On 1/1/2019 at 2:20 AM, albanyguy said:

That is very good FKT. Happy New Year btw from WA.

Thanks, same to you.

Better luck next time you come to the island.

FKT

[DtM 561]

https://www.smh.com.au/national/queensland/it-came-in-through-the-bathroom-window-snake-found-in-share-house-toilet-20190102-p50p8h.html

Welcome to Oz !!!

[VWAP 1,030]

1 hour ago, DtM said:

https://www.smh.com.au/national/queensland/it-came-in-through-the-bathroom-window-snake-found-in-share-house-toilet-20190102-p50p8h.html

Welcome to Oz !!!

What the fuck is a share house toilet?

Do Hobo clowns  live there?

[Mid 3,091]

multi bedroom dwelling , separate tenants in each , shared facilities .

[Shortforbob 2,255]

2 hours ago, VWAP said:

What the fuck is a share house toilet?

Do Hobo clowns  live there?

A house where there's only one communal bathroom? 

Perhaps the writer of the article has never experienced the deprivation of no en-suite 

Stupid headline.

[bowman81 90]

https://www.google.com/amp/amp.abc.net.au/article/10683454

 

Not sure this really fits here but anyway... 

[Shortforbob 2,255]

1 hour ago, bowman81 said:

https://www.google.com/amp/amp.abc.net.au/article/10683454

 

Not sure this really fits here but anyway... 

Serves him right for killing the spider...

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https://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2019-01-03/paraglider-torn-through-air-by-surprise-dust-devil-northern-nsw/10683178

 

 

[Sidecar 950]

It could have been worse:

https://www.smh.com.au/national/ewa-sucked-into-storm-and-lives-to-tell-20070217-gdphms.html

[VWAP 1,030]

9 hours ago, Shortforbob said:

A house where there's only one communal bathroom? 

 

Sounds nasty.

[dreadom 226]

On 1/4/2019 at 3:01 AM, VWAP said:

Sounds nasty.

Duh! Not a place to take your new girlfriend to but shelter is a must. 

[Gissie 1,104]

1 hour ago, dreadom said:

Duh! Not a place to take your new girlfriend to but shelter is a must. 

Unless it is her place and is better than yours. 

[dreadom 226]

I figure this fits in here as i would anywhere else? For those not in the know Australia's two top male tennis players met for the first time on the court today in the Kooyong Classiic. Tomic won it in straight sets, with a sneaky serve that needs to be seen to be believed:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-01-09/bernard-tomic-beats-nick-kyrgios-ahead-of-australian-open/10702796?section=sport

[Mid 3,091]

 

[IStream 2,419]

5 hours ago, Mid said:

 

Would love to have seen it but the resolution was so low I literally couldn't see the ball until it was too late. Is this what passes for broadcast standards down under?

[Gissie 1,104]

Chappell brothers as coach? 

[hasher 825]

11 hours ago, dreadom said:

I figure this fits in here as i would anywhere else? For those not in the know Australia's two top male tennis players met for the first time on the court today in the Kooyong Classiic. Tomic won it in straight sets, with a sneaky serve that needs to be seen to be believed:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-01-09/bernard-tomic-beats-nick-kyrgios-ahead-of-australian-open/10702796?section=sport

What a wonderful thing.  Losing is not the point.  Playing the game well is.  And the humor at a shot like that takes the cake.

[Shortforbob 2,255]

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-01-17/snake-attacks-sleeping-teen-boy-in-queensland/10722876

"We've gone running to see what's going on and Ryan had his arm in the air screaming in pain with a scrub python wrapped around it," Ms Jackson said.

"It was trying to eat his hand.

"We wrestled with it but the more we kept trying, the more the head would inch its way up and it would sink its teeth in higher and higher."

 

[Ease the sheet. 1,428]

59 minutes ago, Shortforbob said:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-01-17/snake-attacks-sleeping-teen-boy-in-queensland/10722876

"We've gone running to see what's going on and Ryan had his arm in the air screaming in pain with a scrub python wrapped around it," Ms Jackson said.

"It was trying to eat his hand.

"We wrestled with it but the more we kept trying, the more the head would inch its way up and it would sink its teeth in higher and higher."

 

Beat me to it.

"Son took one for the team"!

[Sidecar 950]

Just down the road from our place:

https://www.themercury.com.au/news/tasmania/280736714275478143427148400087442559860736n/video/09c01147634241bd26728af04986350f

[Ease the sheet. 1,428]

https://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2019-01-21/snake-catchers-warning-for-cat-owners/10729030

[dreadom 226]

Don’t get more Aussie than a Cockie drinking a Bundy whilst perched on a Hills Hoist. 

[Shortforbob 2,255]

On 1/21/2019 at 11:20 AM, Ease the sheet. said:

https://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2019-01-21/snake-catchers-warning-for-cat-owners/10729030

stirrer

[DtM 561]

19 hours ago, dreadom said:

Don’t get more Aussie than a Cockie drinking a Bundy whilst perched on a Hills Hoist. 

... and dribbling the Bundy down its chin !!!

[Ishmael 6,438]

6 minutes ago, DtM said:

... and dribbling the Bundy down its chin !!!

It will wash off with some Fosters swill.

[blunderfull 490]

Where are they?  Bundaberg?   

These guys rock.

 

[Fah Kiew Tu 2,100]

Queensland again......

https://www.smh.com.au/national/queensland/child-bitten-by-goanna-at-seq-campground-20190124-p50tgj.html

[nimbus 47]

https://www.facebook.com/gardeningaustralia/videos/847743578891086/

I hope the brownies have watched the video and understand their role in all of this:  leave me alone and go for safety.

[Shortforbob 2,255]

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-01-25/heard-island-australias-mysterious-land-of-fire-and-ice/10713860

Just like hawaii but a bit colder. 

[Ishmael 6,438]

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-46996559

Bloody hell.