Cruisin Loser 1,636 Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 10 hours ago, Kris Cringle said: For CL (with an Alden), and anyone interested in the Alden event at Mystic Seaport this July. We've started promoting the event. I'm going, and we have at least one more boat! Sorry, we edited the copy, this is an old version, but the details are in stone. OK, I just need to be sure I've got crew to get from this event to the Eggemoggin Reach Regatta, then possibly back down for the Panerai event in Bristol/Newport at the end of August. We're doing Halifax-St. Pierre et Miquelon in June. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Black Jack 386 Posted April 14, 2018 Author Share Posted April 14, 2018 Here is my boat racing in 1969 taking the Perpetual Cup in San Francisco just after a successful (nearly winning) the SORC series. Note some of best sailors of the era on the boat. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ishmael 6,426 Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 1 hour ago, Black Jack said: Here is my boat racing in 1969 taking the Perpetual Cup in San Francisco just after a successful (nearly winning) the SORC series. Note some of best sailors of the era on the boat. Great heritage. Big breeze, no PFD's, no tethers. Hell, half of them aren't wearing underwear. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Excoded Tom 1,556 Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 That's a great pic. Taken by a competitor? Today I'd guess a drone but in 1969 I wonder who took it? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
familysailor 125 Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 5 hours ago, Uncooperative Tom said: That's a great pic. Taken by a competitor? Today I'd guess a drone but in 1969 I wonder who took it? Probably a Diane Beeston photo... am I right Black Jack? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Black Jack 386 Posted April 15, 2018 Author Share Posted April 15, 2018 5 hours ago, familysailor said: Probably a Diane Beeston photo... am I right Black Jack? I believe it is. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ishmael 6,426 Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 1 hour ago, Black Jack said: I believe it is. Back in the days when lenses weren't computer designed and fabricated. Many early lenses were great in the center, not so much at the edges. I have her San Francisco book. Great photography. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hike, Bitches! 287 Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 Go the 4SKB at 8.1! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Steam Flyer 5,299 Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 On 4/13/2018 at 9:47 PM, Ishmael said: On 4/13/2018 at 8:24 PM, Black Jack said: Here is my boat racing in 1969 taking the Perpetual Cup in San Francisco just after a successful (nearly winning) the SORC series. Note some of best sailors of the era on the boat. Great heritage. Big breeze, no PFD's, no tethers. Hell, half of them aren't wearing underwear. Wow, you can tell that from the photo? I mean it's a great photo and all, but.... dang...... I thought I was doing good picking up on their sail trim FB- Doug Quote Link to post Share on other sites
frozenhawaiian 114 Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 yesterday on our way into portland. 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sail4beer 2,224 Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 11 minutes ago, frozenhawaiian said: yesterday on our way into portland. That is a beautiful yacht!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
IStream 2,418 Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 1 hour ago, frozenhawaiian said: yesterday on our way into portland. Wow. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
frozenhawaiian 114 Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 8 hours ago, Sail4beer said: That is a beautiful yacht!!! thanks! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
frozenhawaiian 114 Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 same day, cruising past portland head light. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cruisin Loser 1,636 Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 10 hours ago, frozenhawaiian said: yesterday on our way into portland. Would it be a challenge to get that into Boothbay? Beautiful. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
socalrider 460 Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 2 hours ago, frozenhawaiian said: same day, cruising past portland head light. Tell us more about her! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tunesb 14 Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 May 6. Lisbon Eurovision Regatta. Sailing with wife and kids (3 and 6 years old ) 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rasputin22 2,715 Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 1 hour ago, Cruisin Loser said: Would it be a challenge to get that into Boothbay? Beautiful. I see what you did there Loser... 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
frozenhawaiian 114 Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 20 minutes ago, socalrider said: Tell us more about her! NICTE HA is a 1975 John Alden boothbay challenger built by Hodgdon Yachts in east boothbay maine. I bought the boat in St. Thomas and we just sailed her up to her new home in Maine. Surprisingly fast boat offshore, we did several 200+ mile days 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Panoramix 1,374 Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 1 hour ago, tunesb said: May 6. Lisbon Eurovision Regatta. Sailing with wife and kids (3 and 6 years old ) Is it a coco? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
wick 33 Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 43 minutes ago, frozenhawaiian said: NICTE HA is a 1975 John Alden boothbay challenger built by Hodgdon Yachts in east boothbay maine. I bought the boat in St. Thomas and we just sailed her up to her new home in Maine. Surprisingly fast boat offshore, we did several 200+ mile days Congratulations. Looks like a nice ride. Did you sail direct, or stop along the way? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sail4beer 2,224 Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 58 minutes ago, frozenhawaiian said: NICTE HA is a 1975 John Alden boothbay challenger built by Hodgdon Yachts in east boothbay maine. I bought the boat in St. Thomas and we just sailed her up to her new home in Maine. Surprisingly fast boat offshore, we did several 200+ mile days That ain’t shit compared to a Brent Boat They do 4 or 500 miles and kilometers at the same time 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
frozenhawaiian 114 Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 1 hour ago, wick said: Congratulations. Looks like a nice ride. Did you sail direct, or stop along the way? we went st thomas to fairhaven MA where we stopped for fuel then hopped up to rockport MA to hang out with the family of one of our crew who live there then headed the last bit north up to portland. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tunesb 14 Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 18 hours ago, Panoramix said: Is it a coco? Hi. Yes. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tunesb 14 Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 Another from last Saturday Regata, sailing solo. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Panoramix 1,374 Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 Tough and seaworthy boats.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
py26129 83 Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 I like the name! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tunesb 14 Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 57 minutes ago, Panoramix said: Tough and seaworthy boats.... Great boat, Philippe Harlé design. The first mini-transat: http://www.histoiredeshalfs.com/Histoire des Minis/Coco.htm Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Panoramix 1,374 Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 7 minutes ago, tunesb said: Great boat, Philippe Harlé design. The first mini-transat: http://www.histoiredeshalfs.com/Histoire des Minis/Coco.htm Yes, I don't think that Harlé has ever designed a bad boat. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SloopJonB 8,594 Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 44 minutes ago, tunesb said: Great boat, Philippe Harlé design. The first mini-transat: I thought this was. Has anyone noticed that Chichester's winning time in the first OSTAR was about the same as the current round the world record? Over 40 days. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hard aground 51 Posted May 27, 2018 Share Posted May 27, 2018 Generally better sailing when there is actually some breeze...... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Grey Dawn 20 Posted May 27, 2018 Share Posted May 27, 2018 Beautiful photo but are you being dragged by fishing line? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
captain_crunch 295 Posted May 28, 2018 Share Posted May 28, 2018 On 5/16/2018 at 1:48 PM, SloopJonB said: I thought this was. Has anyone noticed that Chichester's winning time in the first OSTAR was about the same as the current round the world record? Over 40 days. That's an interesting observation. The present around the world sailing record (Jules Verne Trophy) is 40d 23h 30m 30s. Francis Joyon of France was the skipper and boat was the trimaran IDEC 3. The time is just eleven hours longer than the winning time for the first singlehanded transatlantic race in 1960. The present around the world singlehanded sailing record is 42d 16h 40m 35s set by François Gabart of France on the trimaran Macif. The present Mini Transit race is from France to Brazil and is for boats of 6.5 meters (21.3 feet) in length. One of the competitors in the 1960 singlehanded transatlantic race was almost small enough to qualify. The five competitors in the 1960 singlehanded transatlantic race in order of finish are as follows. Francis Chichester Gipsy Moth III (40-foot cutter) 40 days 12 hours 30 min Blondie Hasler Jester (Highly-modified Folkboat with a junk rig) 48 days 12 hours 02 min David Lewis Cardinal Vertue (Laurent Giles Vertue Class sloop) 55 days 00 hours 50 min Val Howells EIRA (Folkboat) Mono-25 62 days 05 hours 50 min Jean Lacombe Cap Horn (21.5-foot centerboard sloop) 74 days Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SecondWindNC 42 Posted May 29, 2018 Share Posted May 29, 2018 Second time out on this old FD. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
py26129 83 Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 I love those boats. My dad owned one a long time ago and remember it very well. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
zzrider 3 Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 A quick little vid of our C&C 34+ sailing, shot by my wife from her boat. https://youtu.be/9CxFEx4RaEQ 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ajax 2,061 Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 39 minutes ago, zzrider said: A quick little vid of our C&C 34+ sailing, shot by my wife from her boat. https://youtu.be/9CxFEx4RaEQ Jaysus... gorgeous boat, perfect sail trim, perfect motion. Droooooool... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ajax 2,061 Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 This was me, doing some easy Memorial Day cruising. I love that big ol' main. 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dilligaf0220 114 Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 6 hours ago, zzrider said: A quick little vid of our C&C 34+ sailing, shot by my wife from her boat. https://youtu.be/9CxFEx4RaEQ Haa haa I forgot I was 1/6 of your Youtube subscriber base! Looking good, new sails or did they come with the boat? And any worries about future arguments over the Gender Sail Gap? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
zzrider 3 Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 3 minutes ago, Dilligaf0220 said: Haa haa I forgot I was 1/6 of your Youtube subscriber base! Looking good, new sails or did they come with the boat? And any worries about future arguments over the Gender Sail Gap? Actually, ancient sails. It's amazing that main still sets as well as it does. Yay for full battens. Hoping to get a new one over the winter. Gender sail gap...lol! Not worried, wife is happy with her 26'. She loves the 34+ too but has no interest in trying to singlehand it.l Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SloopJonB 8,594 Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 7 hours ago, zzrider said: A quick little vid of our C&C 34+ sailing, shot by my wife from her boat. https://youtu.be/9CxFEx4RaEQ My how she schoons. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bull City 1,602 Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 6 hours ago, Ajax said: This was me, doing some easy Memorial Day cruising. I love that big ol' main. Where'd you get that fractional rig? I didn't think Tartan made them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bull City 1,602 Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 7 hours ago, zzrider said: A quick little vid of our C&C 34+ sailing, shot by my wife from her boat. https://youtu.be/9CxFEx4RaEQ Lovely. It captures the essence and joy of sailing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ajax 2,061 Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 12 hours ago, Bull City said: Where'd you get that fractional rig? I didn't think Tartan made them. She's bone stock, that's how the T-33 came. There was a handful of T-33R's made with a masthead rig and a deep keel, then they discontinued that line and made the T34-2 which was a masthead configuration only. You could get a T-34-2 in Scheel keel or deep keel. All they did, was stretch the T-33 hull by 8 inches or so and re-arrange the interior a bit. The T-33 came with a pilot bunk (which I have), then after some customer feedback they did away with the pilot berth and put the icebox over with the galley and made the salon area symmetrical, with double bunks port and starboard. This was called the "B" layout. The T34-2 only had the "B" layout. In reality, I probably would be better served by the T-33R due to the light Chesapeake summers but the fractional rig make the boat easier to singlehand and I love the pilot berth. I was really pretty skeptical of the boat's sailing ability but I have been pleasantly surprised. The boat points "good enough" in light air and pretty damn good in 10+ knots if you play with all the sail fine tuning toys and the Scheel keel lets me get into all the skinny places without the bother of centerboard maintenance. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bull City 1,602 Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 1 hour ago, Ajax said: She's bone stock, that's how the T-33 came. There was a handful of T-33R's made with a masthead rig and a deep keel, then they discontinued that line and made the T34-2 which was a masthead configuration only. You could get a T-34-2 in Scheel keel or deep keel. All they did, was stretch the T-33 hull by 8 inches or so and re-arrange the interior a bit. The T-33 came with a pilot bunk (which I have), then after some customer feedback they did away with the pilot berth and put the icebox over with the galley and made the salon area symmetrical, with double bunks port and starboard. This was called the "B" layout. The T34-2 only had the "B" layout. In reality, I probably would be better served by the T-33R due to the light Chesapeake summers but the fractional rig make the boat easier to singlehand and I love the pilot berth. I was really pretty skeptical of the boat's sailing ability but I have been pleasantly surprised. The boat points "good enough" in light air and pretty damn good in 10+ knots if you play with all the sail fine tuning toys and the Scheel keel lets me get into all the skinny places without the bother of centerboard maintenance. I'm a fan of fractional rigs (and tillers). My main sailing buddy (outside of Mrs. Bull) has a Tartan 34-2 (I think), which he keep near Oriental. It has the Scheel keel. The headsail is big. Furling it is a lot of work. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
zzrider 3 Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 I'm a bit envious of that frac rig. The masthead genoa on my C&C can be a handful. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ajax 2,061 Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 After dragging a 155% and even a 170%! around the mast of my Pearson 30 in light breezes, I do appreciate the fractional. Tartan says that if I sheet to the toe rail when reaching, I can pick up a full knot sometimes. I'm working on some kind of gadget that will allow me to do that while singlehanding. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ishmael 6,426 Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 2 minutes ago, Ajax said: After dragging a 155% and even a 170%! around the mast of my Pearson 30 in light breezes, I do appreciate the fractional. Tartan says that if I sheet to the toe rail when reaching, I can pick up a full knot sometimes. I'm working on some kind of gadget that will allow me to do that while singlehanding. I have posted this before, but what the hell. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ajax 2,061 Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 I think you explained this but I don't recall seeing a picture until now. Either way, that's perfect and I'm going to try to buy the bits for it this weekend. Thanks for the refresher. This is better than what I was going to do. Do you leave one rigged on each side? Do you run the tail through a block or anything? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MauiPunter 752 Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 1 hour ago, Ajax said: After dragging a 155% and even a 170%! around the mast of my Pearson 30 in light breezes, I do appreciate the fractional. Tartan says that if I sheet to the toe rail when reaching, I can pick up a full knot sometimes. I'm working on some kind of gadget that will allow me to do that while singlehanding. I think they call that a Reverse Twing (or was it twang). Instead of pulling sheeting angle in, you would be pulling it out. Or maybe a reaching strut. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ishmael 6,426 Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 1 hour ago, Ajax said: I think you explained this but I don't recall seeing a picture until now. Either way, that's perfect and I'm going to try to buy the bits for it this weekend. Thanks for the refresher. This is better than what I was going to do. Do you leave one rigged on each side? Do you run the tail through a block or anything? Yes, one on each side, I run the tail through the spinnaker sheet turning blocks and to stern mooring cleats. Edit: I know some people like to use locking carabiners so they won't hang up on the lifelines, but it has never been an issue in the 15+ years I've been doing this. I use the "genius" carabiners from West Marine because you can put a smaller carabiner in place. I have considered putting a stopper knot in the twing sheet so it stops the carabiner from being sucked into the genoa lead block but haven't quite got around to it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
longy 540 Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 Holt Allen 40 mm snatch block is great for this application Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bull City 1,602 Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 2 hours ago, Ishmael said: Tartan says that if I sheet to the toe rail when reaching, I can pick up a full knot sometimes. When you say reaching, do you mean Broad, Beam or Close? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SloopJonB 8,594 Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 4 hours ago, Ajax said: After dragging a 155% and even a 170%! around the mast of my Pearson 30 in light breezes, I do appreciate the fractional. Tartan says that if I sheet to the toe rail when reaching, I can pick up a full knot sometimes. I'm working on some kind of gadget that will allow me to do that while singlehanding. A snatch block Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bull City 1,602 Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 5 hours ago, Ajax said: Tartan says that if I sheet to the toe rail when reaching, I can pick up a full knot sometimes. I'm working on some kind of gadget that will allow me to do that while singlehanding. When you say reaching, do you mean Broad, Beam or Close? (I quoted the wrong person earlier.) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ajax 2,061 Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 I have snatch blocks. I bought carabiners and rope this afternoon. Looking forward to giving it a try! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Alex W 243 Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 Ishmael's setup is pretty slick! Sheeting to the toe rail makes a big difference for me, especially when running deck sweeping sails. It lets me keep the headsail twist correct when the sheet is eased. It isn't as big of a difference for sails that have a higher clew (well above lifelines). I just do it using two sheets (the second is my changing sheet that I'd have handy for an inline peel). When you ease off from the working sheet (setup with the jib tight in) just transition the load to the changing sheet run through the block on the rail. Then when you want to come hard on the wind again you bring in old working sheet. I've found this pretty easy to manage when singlehanded. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ajax 2,061 Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 That is how I was going to do it but I think Ish's setup might be easier for me. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sail4beer 2,224 Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 The Ensign Turbo. Brother driving, nephew in the middle and me on blade jib duty. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hard aground 51 Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 On 6/15/2018 at 12:15 PM, Ishmael said: I have posted this before, but what the hell. Doesn't that put a bunch of pressure on your lifelines/stantions? I just use a snatch block and an extra sheet, run it through the block and under the lifelines quick bowline on the sail and away we go. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
monsoon 328 Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 On 6/15/2018 at 12:15 PM, Ishmael said: I have posted this before, but what the hell. I can't see how your sheets are attached, but assuming a bowline, would it not be better to attach the shackle to the bowline eye and run essentially a 2nd sheet outside the life lines? Would not do in heavy air, of course. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ishmael 6,426 Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 1 hour ago, hard aground said: Doesn't that put a bunch of pressure on your lifelines/stantions? I just use a snatch block and an extra sheet, run it through the block and under the lifelines quick bowline on the sail and away we go. On a reach we seldom need to pull it down enough to interfere with the lifelines, so no worries there. 50 minutes ago, monsoon said: I can't see how your sheets are attached, but assuming a bowline, would it not be better to attach the shackle to the bowline eye and run essentially a 2nd sheet outside the life lines? Would not do in heavy air, of course. If we needed to go outside the lifelines that is what we would do. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ajax 2,061 Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 Ok, help me fine tune this setup a little bit. I was unsure of where to put the snatch blocks- Even with the clew ring? Aft of the clew ring? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ajax 2,061 Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 Next pic: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ishmael 6,426 Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 1 minute ago, Ajax said: Ok, help me fine tune this setup a little bit. I was unsure of where to put the snatch blocks- Even with the clew ring? Aft of the clew ring? Wherever it needs to be. Different reaching angles call for different lead positions. I'd probably move it back from where you have it, but I don't know your boat. Watch your telltales, you'll know when it's right. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ajax 2,061 Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 Ok, I'll work with it some more. I do think you're right that it should be further aft on this particular day. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Crash 620 Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 Ajax, you might consider initially running a separate sheet thru the snatch block and to the clew. That way there’s only two variables (snatch block location & sheet tension) as you learn what shape/trim looks right & works best for your rig. Once you can “see the shape” then you can switch to the snatchblock /twing sheet setup which has multiple variables (genny car position, genny sheet tension, snatch block lead position and twing sheet tension) all in play to try to get the right shape... Crash Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SloopJonB 8,594 Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 13 hours ago, Ajax said: Ok, help me fine tune this setup a little bit. I was unsure of where to put the snatch blocks- Even with the clew ring? Aft of the clew ring? Barber haulers are just a method of changing the lead angle on the jib sheet transversely - they have to be adjusted the same way sheet blocks are - you have to move them until the telltales fly evenly. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ajax 2,061 Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 Hrm. The snatch blocks are not quickly or easily moved. I'll have to carefully check the breeze and get them set before the race starts. My jib cars seem well positioned for a general wind range. I only move them forward when it gets really light. Based on what you're saying, the snatch block was definitely too far forward in this photo. The breeze was fresh and I should have moved it aft. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SloopJonB 8,594 Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 Since you have holey rail it's quick & easy to attach snatch blocks. Just use two and alternate them until you find the right spot - if the lead isn't right, put the other block in what you think would be a better spot and move the twing line to it. It requires some experimentation, just like jib sheet blocks on tracks. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ajax 2,061 Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 Good plan. I have enough snatch blocks to do that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lex Teredo 275 Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 We barber haul the genoa like that on the J/35 when reaching the #1. Our setup is a 15 foot long length of old 5/8ths line spliced to a reefing hook, snatchblock on the T-track/toe-rail. (The T-track adjusts easier, feel for you on that point). With your perforated toerail, no reason adequately sized carabiners shouldn't work just fine. Procedurally - before we turn to a reach we put the snatch block on the toe rail around amidships, maybe 4' aft of the shrouds, and run the line to one of the cabin top winches. We tack, sheet the genoa, stick the reefing hook through the clew, then ease the sheet and trim the barber haul until the genoa's leech has the same curve as the main. The snatch block is in the right place when it's pulling more or less straight downward from the clew. What makes it fast, IMAO, is not just the much more efficient jib trim, but that properly trimming the jib establishes a really nice efficient 'envelope' for the main. This means there's some fussing between jib and main to get it just right. . 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ajax 2,061 Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 Cool, thanks. Maybe we can discuss in more detail over a beer this summer. Back on topic, nobody loses with more style than I do. This photo is from last week's race. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Crash 620 Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 It may be just me Ajax, or the angle of the pic...but it looks like the top of the slot for the genny is way tight on the main. Is the main all bagged out by the sailnumbers? Or can you maybe get some twist on that genny (lead aft some to allow top of genny to twist off some? That might add some upwind speed. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BBender 24 Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 Hanging on to number one near finishing line in Hobart while plane took photos. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ajax 2,061 Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 9 hours ago, Crash said: It may be just me Ajax, or the angle of the pic...but it looks like the top of the slot for the genny is way tight on the main. Is the main all bagged out by the sailnumbers? Or can you maybe get some twist on that genny (lead aft some to allow top of genny to twist off some? That might add some upwind speed. For sure the main is old and due for replacement but I wouldn't say that it's "all bagged out." I do agree that the slot looks a bit tight up high. I think that for the amount of breeze at the time, I over trimmed the genoa and I should have had the traveler higher and the main sheeted in a bit more so multiple small errors going on there. Ah, the miracle of "compound interest." Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sail4beer 2,224 Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 2 hours ago, Ozmex said: Hanging on to number one near finishing line in Hobart while plane took photos. Looks like you had it printed on your blue jeans or the photographer forgot to lift the screen in the window before the click! nice shot! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TwoLegged 1,170 Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 14 hours ago, Ajax said: Ajax, I love all the pics of your gorgeous boat. She's a real gem. Please post lots more pics. Hope you'll forgive some thread drift. When you bought her, I recall you posting some concerns about handling a boat 4ft (?) longer than your Pearson. But the switch took you from a masthead to a fractional rig, so you probably got smaller headsails. So overall, which is the easier boat to handle solo? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ajax 2,061 Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 @TwoLegged - The topsides paint is for shit so you won't get any close shots. Yes, the boat is close to 4 feet longer and probably 3,000lbs. heavier but the fractional rig and the cockpit layout make it easier to singlehand than the Pearson. The primaries and traveler are right near the wheel. When short tacking, I just slide back and forth across the helm seat to release the old sheet and then trim in the new sheet. I sometimes cleat the traveler to center if I'm tacking so often that I don't have time to bring it up to the high side after each tack. The boat really deserves a new main to go with the new jib. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TwoLegged 1,170 Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 @Ajax -- pah. Never mind paint. Beautiful lines beat lipstick every day. So don't waste cash on paint; get that new main. Glad to hear that the handling has worked out so well for you. Plus you really seem to have fallen in love with her Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ajax 2,061 Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 23 minutes ago, TwoLegged said: @Ajax -- pah. Never mind paint. Beautiful lines beat lipstick every day. So don't waste cash on paint; get that new main. Glad to hear that the handling has worked out so well for you. Plus you really seem to have fallen in love with her Yep, it's all worked out better than I expected. I'm very lucky. We depart for 12 days of cruising in a couple of weeks. I was given a Chesapeake cruising guide for my birthday so we'll use it to find some new gunkholes to visit. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BBender 24 Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 12 hours ago, Sail4beer said: Looks like you had it printed on your blue jeans or the photographer forgot to lift the screen in the window before the click! nice shot! Boy was I gullible.They said pay an extra $100 and it will look like a painting.Must reorder better print to look at in old age.This other side with adventureman yelling to raise the no. 2 while he feeds it Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sail4beer 2,224 Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 Crazy bowman. He was loving it the whole time! Makes for good stories at the bar! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sail4beer 2,224 Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 1 hour ago, Ozmex said: Boy was I gullible.They said pay an extra $100 and it will look like a painting.Must reorder better print to look at in old age.This other side with adventureman yelling to raise the no. 2 while he feeds it Not as gullible as this guy! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BBender 24 Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 Maaate I feel better already Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hard aground 51 Posted June 24, 2018 Share Posted June 24, 2018 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SloopJonB 8,594 Posted June 24, 2018 Share Posted June 24, 2018 On 6/19/2018 at 7:27 PM, Sail4beer said: Not as gullible as this guy! Oh yeah, he'd definitely get the job. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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