DtM 544 #501 Posted October 15, 2017 More like Harvey Wallbanger (showing my age!!) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ac/dc 2 #502 Posted October 15, 2017 27 minutes ago, DtM said: If that is correct and you really would "welcome the opportunity to get the whole thing on the record" then why don't you commence some proceedings or use admiralty law to get your alleged entitlement? Interested minds would like to know. So u want this shit in here or not? Action has been taken, it's expensive and time consuming which is why the warning has been put out there to you, the community, so you don't get fucked over by this cunt like myself and the trail of unpaid bills this guy leaves behind him. But I'm the bad guy for letting you know. Be warned Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DtM 544 #503 Posted October 15, 2017 What is his defence that makes it so time consuming for a debt recovery? Is the debtor a natural person or a corporate entity? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
terrafirma 1,079 #504 Posted October 15, 2017 41 minutes ago, ac/dc said: So u want this shit in here or not? Action has been taken, it's expensive and time consuming which is why the warning has been put out there to you, the community, so you don't get fucked over by this cunt like myself and the trail of unpaid bills this guy leaves behind him. But I'm the bad guy for letting you know. Be warned Grant Wharington set the standard. Perhaps others have followed. Time to move on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jack_sparrow 7,613 #505 Posted October 15, 2017 Maybe his problem is in the spelling and grammar department. When emailing his invoices to the lass in accounts beginning with what he thinks is "Hi Chloe", the moron keeps dropping the C and the L Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LB 15 4,884 #506 Posted October 15, 2017 25 minutes ago, ac/dc said: So u want this shit in here or not? Exactly what part of your shit are you referring too? There is a bit to choose from. The bit where you created a sock for the sole purpose of defaming someone? The bit where you threaten physical violence against him? Maybe the bit where defame me by accusing me of abusing women and threaten to destroy my business (no less than three times) simply for telling you like it is. The bit where you threaten to 'out' me perhaps- right after doing just that? The bit where you suddenly remembered that you already have started proceedings after already saying you would love him to start proceeding against you was piss funny. But my favorite bit is where you claim you are not doing this for yourself but only to help the SA community purely out of the goodness of your heart. Mind you, your little boy lost, bottom lip pout about being flamed for trying to do the right thing was also pretty good. Amusing as you are cupcake I don't think anyone wants to hear anymore of your bullshit, but thanks for asking. Here is some advice. Actually start an action against him, get a judgment against him and then go as hard as you like, but maybe use your normal log on instead of a sock next time? Show some balls instead of just scratching them. In the meantime, perhaps a little discretion might be called for? Perhaps there is more to the story than just your version of events? There usually is. Get a contract next time maybe. Lots of small operators are so intimidated by working for wealthy people that they can't see reason because of the stars stuck in their eyes. Or suck it up, learn a business lesson and move on. This kind of shit can eat you up, cost you sleep and cause you to act like a cunt and blow any credibility you might have had. Now before you get all snarky again about losing face on here, remember that you are just anonymous sock puppet. No one knows who you really are. Well only 3 that I know of anyway. But don't take it out on me mate , I don't owe anyone money, least of all you. Maybe a few days off the piss wouldn't hurt either or at least don't post when you have been drinking. Look after yourself mate, this shit just isn't worth your health. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ac/dc 2 #507 Posted October 15, 2017 39 minutes ago, LB 15 said: Exactly what part of your shit are you referring too? There is a bit to choose from. The bit where you created a sock for the sole purpose of defaming someone? The bit where you threaten physical violence against him? Maybe the bit where defame me by accusing me of abusing women and threaten to destroy my business (no less than three times) simply for telling you like it is. The bit where you threaten to 'out' me perhaps- right after doing just that? The bit where you suddenly remembered that you already have started proceedings after already saying you would love him to start proceeding against you was piss funny. But my favorite bit is where you claim you are not doing this for yourself but only to help the SA community purely out of the goodness of your heart. Mind you, your little boy lost, bottom lip pout about being flamed for trying to do the right thing was also pretty good. Amusing as you are cupcake I don't think anyone wants to hear anymore of your bullshit, but thanks for asking. Here is some advice. Actually start an action against him, get a judgment against him and then go as hard as you like, but maybe use your normal log on instead of a sock next time? Show some balls instead of just scratching them. In the meantime, perhaps a little discretion might be called for? Perhaps there is more to the story than just your version of events? There usually is. Get a contract next time maybe. Lots of small operators are so intimidated by working for wealthy people that they can't see reason because of the stars stuck in their eyes. Or suck it up, learn a business lesson and move on. This kind of shit can eat you up, cost you sleep and cause you to act like a cunt and blow any credibility you might have had. Now before you get all snarky again about losing face on here, remember that you are just anonymous sock puppet. No one knows who you really are. Well only 3 that I know of anyway. But don't take it out on me mate , I don't owe anyone money, least of all you. Maybe a few days off the piss wouldn't hurt either or at least don't post when you have been drinking. Look after yourself mate, this shit just isn't worth your health. Self appointed hero, you asked to see tits, if you did that anywhere else you'd have issues, u do it here with your sockpuppet. Like I said action is underway You took it upon yourself to get involved by having a crack at me, you started it now you've gone and got all upset. My job here is done. I don't need advice, I didn't ask for any Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LB 15 4,884 #508 Posted October 15, 2017 1 minute ago, ac/dc said: My job here is done. Cheers mate ,good job. Pop an invoice in the mail. I will see it gets paid. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
savoir 180 #509 Posted October 15, 2017 Girls please. tsk tsk. Take this to Catfight Anarchy, just scroll down a bit. Moving right along . . . . . Sydney newspapers report that Croaky has sold his Sydney pad for a mere AUD36m. With all that loot he can afford a cuppla new sails to go with his charter. They also say that Bell was paid $5m for Loyal. Seems high to me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PIL66 - XL2 917 #510 Posted October 15, 2017 On 10/13/2017 at 9:45 PM, Jethrow said: Yeah, and I thought Snaggle was hard to read! Sorry to get off track but what happened to Snaggs...? He still around..? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DtM 544 #511 Posted October 16, 2017 Sure he is. Active in a number of threads. Getting harder to understand or maybe I am just getting older. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
terrafirma 1,079 #512 Posted October 16, 2017 Matt Allen's new TP52 showing signs of being very fast. Beat Celestial by around 2 hours over the line in a 200nm race and took overall IRC honours as well. Using an existing rig and with some minor things to do according to MA, could be one of the boats to beat this year Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SCANAS 523 #513 Posted October 16, 2017 Nom Nom Nom Nom Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
richiec 24 #514 Posted October 16, 2017 40kn on the nose via Bass Strait... happy days. The bloke up front on the other chase boat is keen enough to clip the odd tack to the ckew and 'wotknot... ' Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ac/dc 2 #515 Posted October 16, 2017 On 15/10/2017 at 10:03 PM, LB 15 said: Cheers mate ,good job. Pop an invoice in the mail. I will see it gets paid. http://sailinganarchy.com/2017/10/16/picking-up-the-pieces/ Jim Cooney's in good company Masertai, brindabella, comanche Pay your bills jim or your next Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LB 15 4,884 #516 Posted October 16, 2017 1 hour ago, ac/dc said: http://sailinganarchy.com/2017/10/16/picking-up-the-pieces/ Jim Cooney's in good company Masertai, brindabella, comanche Pay your bills jim or your next Oh looky, Bon Scott is back. My name isn't Jim and I don't owe you anything, not even a response. But I will toss you a bone for free. I don't think you will find clean or scooter writing any FB articals accusing rich guys of being 'grifters' without substantial proof. You're new here but you see a few years ago there was this fat guy with a boat called numbers... I thought you said your 'work here was done'? Anyway, the cheques in the mail... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ac/dc 2 #517 Posted October 16, 2017 2 minutes ago, LB 15 said: Oh looky, Bon Scott is back. My name isn't Jim and I don't owe you anything, not even a response. But I will toss you a bone for free. I don't think you will find clean or scooter writing any FB articals accusing rich guys of being 'grifters' without substantial proof. You're new here but you see a few years ago there was this fat guy with a boat called numbers... I thought you said your 'work here was done'? Anyway, the cheques in the mail... Still want to see tits? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LB 15 4,884 #518 Posted October 16, 2017 Sure. But make sure you pay the girl upfront. You wouldn't want her say, defaming you anonomously or claiming you are going to destroy your business now would you... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DtM 544 #519 Posted October 16, 2017 If she deals with ac/dc that might destroy her business on its own. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LB 15 4,884 #520 Posted October 16, 2017 1 hour ago, DtM said: If she deals with ac/dc that might destroy her business on its own. Careful mate he might threaten to destroy your business. That is what he does to people that own their own boats. He is just a little bitter because all he owns is a some wet weather gear, a toothbrush and a crappy car.Which is lucky for him because if he continues to defame people he might be living in it soon. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
terrafirma 1,079 #521 Posted October 17, 2017 Moving on....! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LB 15 4,884 #522 Posted October 17, 2017 54 minutes ago, terrafirma said: Moving on....! All good I am done with him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xsailmakerSYD 8 #523 Posted October 17, 2017 ..... but he will be back !!! his 'satisfaction' has not been met ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LB 15 4,884 #524 Posted October 17, 2017 1 hour ago, Ockaroo said: So ex-Showgun ex-Itchybum now Envy Scooters. Yes and they can 'punch' above their weight.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
halfhour 0 #525 Posted October 17, 2017 Loyal seen at Woolwich dock today with all the winches being worked on looking in need of a bit of TLC ,no sign of new owner Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dark Cloud 348 #526 Posted October 17, 2017 1 hour ago, halfhour said: Loyal seen at Woolwich dock today with all the winches being worked on looking in need of a bit of TLC ,no sign of new owner Yeah the owner don't do winches Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jack_sparrow 7,613 #527 Posted October 17, 2017 18 minutes ago, Dark Cloud said: Yeah the owner don't do wenches Never heard of that happening...is this a LGBT show now?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dark Cloud 348 #528 Posted October 17, 2017 Pretty sure the LBGT set do wenches pretty well - at least they do on Pornhub Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grande Mastere Dreade 2,177 #529 Posted October 17, 2017 On 2/2/2017 at 1:31 AM, jack_sparrow said: surprised they didn't put the lifelines out on the deck spreader wings, "bitch, get your fat ass out there and hike" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xsailmakerSYD 8 #530 Posted October 17, 2017 local rag..... Neville Crichton borrows supermaxi Comanche for Sydney to Hobart tilt TOP ocean racer Neville Crichton will be the oldest man to skipper and steer a supermaxi in the Sydney to Hobart after confirming he will campaign the American record breaker Comanche in 2017. http://www.news.com.au/sport/more-sports/neville-crichton-borrows-supermaxi-comanche-for-sydney-to-hobart-tilt/news-story/625c4a6fbc94804167be1bfd2a06720f ...... The Sydney-based New Zealander, who survived throat cancer with a hole in his throat which makes any ocean racing life-threatening, says he will return the yacht to Clark after the race and expects it to be then taken overseas for sale. However there is rumoured interest from another Sydney businessman and Sydney to Hobart enthusiast who could well buy the boat and race it south himself next year under an Australian flag. “Jim is lending me the boat and I will pick up the bills,” said of Comanche, which took line honours in the 2015 Sydney to Hobart with former supermodel Hinze-Clark aboard. What happens after the race, it will probably leave the county and be sold. But that’s all still up in the air.” Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jack_sparrow 7,613 #531 Posted October 17, 2017 24 minutes ago, xsailmakerSYD said: TOP ocean racer Neville Crichton will be the oldest man to skipper and steer a supermaxi in the Sydney to Hobart.. Syd might have something to say about that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Last Post 91 #532 Posted October 18, 2017 On 10/13/2017 at 2:59 PM, duncan (the other one) said: Bowman: "What the *fuck* is going on back there?" Now we know what those orange things in the sides are for. They are there to stop the boat making too much leeway when trimmed like this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Last Post 91 #533 Posted October 18, 2017 On 10/15/2017 at 8:42 PM, terrafirma said: Grant Wharington set the standard. Perhaps others have followed. Time to move on. Syd, (heres 50%, see you in court for the rest) was decades in front of Wharro... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DtM 544 #534 Posted October 18, 2017 "Crime". Crime doesn't pay and neither does Syd. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jack_sparrow 7,613 #535 Posted October 18, 2017 Someone I know has a cheque from Syd...they framed it instead of cashing it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SCANAS 523 #536 Posted October 18, 2017 A: Dave & Peter Askew just added a Volvo 70 to the Wizard team; so really excited to be prepping & navigating for Sydney Hobart with their team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Car Ramrod 10 #537 Posted October 18, 2017 Formerly serial charterers of the first RP75 Bella Mente, with many Volvo regulars on the boat, taking a pass at breaking some records in the states and on the lakes. You can be sure that the recent Chicago mackinaw record was motivated by this beast coming to the states in the hands of an owner who grew up racing on IOR boats in and around the lakes and wanting to get one in before wizard comes and smashes it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LB 15 4,884 #539 Posted October 18, 2017 1 hour ago, Wildboats said: Gold. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Moonduster 312 #540 Posted October 18, 2017 Not gold. Not even bronze. More like paper mâché . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wildboats 4 #541 Posted October 18, 2017 8 hours ago, Moonduster said: Not gold. Not even bronze. More like paper mâché . origami ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SCANAS 523 #542 Posted October 18, 2017 17 hours ago, Wildboats said: When VPP software says Yes! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Moonduster 312 #543 Posted October 19, 2017 Well, apparently the cat is pretty much out of the bag on this one, so I'll let you in on the rumors I've heard about their performance challenges ... You'll see many similarities between the conceptual drawings and the actual boat. But the discerning eye will notice that the boat is immersed in water and features a mast and some sails, whereas the conceptual drawing shows no wetted surface and features four jet engines. Apparently Reynolds numbers and bypass ratios matter. Who knew? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Weatherman 5 #544 Posted October 19, 2017 Also perpetual speedbler is in... now called infotrack (worst name ever..??) http://rolexsydneyhobart.com/the-yachts/2017/infotrack/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DtM 544 #545 Posted October 19, 2017 Infotrack is a search engine that lawyers use for ASIC/property etc information Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DickDastardly 234 #546 Posted October 19, 2017 2 hours ago, The Weatherman said: Also perpetual speedbler is in... now called infotrack (worst name ever..??) http://rolexsydneyhobart.com/the-yachts/2017/infotrack/ Builder listed as Boatspeed .... hmmmm .... has Cookson disowned it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SCANAS 523 #547 Posted October 19, 2017 Has it been out sailing? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jack_sparrow 7,613 #548 Posted October 19, 2017 1 hour ago, DtM said: Infotrack is a search engine that lawyers use for ASIC/property etc information And the owners company Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jack_sparrow 7,613 #549 Posted October 19, 2017 1 hour ago, DickDastardly said: Builder listed as Boatspeed .... hmmmm .... has Cookson disowned it? Dick it hard to imagine that it is approaching 10 years since it came out of their shed. Time sure flies.I remember the high tech (for then) deck stepped rig and going fuuuuuck. She sure has had a chequered career in that 10 years. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SCANAS 523 #550 Posted October 20, 2017 Rebuilt by Cookson for Bell. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jack_sparrow 7,613 #551 Posted October 20, 2017 5 minutes ago, SCANAS said: Rebuilt by Cookson for Bell. And built (as Speedboat) by Cooksons Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SCANAS 523 #552 Posted October 20, 2017 Yep. But it hasn't been 10 yrs since it came out of Cookson's shed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jack_sparrow 7,613 #553 Posted October 20, 2017 Scan did you have a fall last night? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Car Ramrod 10 #554 Posted October 20, 2017 12 hours ago, SCANAS said: Yep. But it hasn't been 10 yrs since it came out of Cookson's shed. Well it started the 08 Bermuda Race... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jack_sparrow 7,613 #555 Posted October 20, 2017 55 minutes ago, A-NU-START said: Well it started the 08 Bermuda Race... Around the same time Scans balls dropped. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SCANAS 523 #556 Posted October 20, 2017 Guys Guys Guys. Speedboatramblerloyalinfotrack went to cookson's in the beginning of 2013 for a rebuild. So it has not been 10yrs since it left Cookson's. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wildboats 4 #557 Posted October 20, 2017 30 minutes ago, SCANAS said: Guys Guys Guys. Speedboatramblerloyalinfotrack went to cookson's in the beginning of 2013 for a rebuild. So it has not been 10yrs since it left Cookson's. SpeedboatRamblerVirginMoneyLoyalInfotrack Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SCANAS 523 #558 Posted October 20, 2017 Got the order mixed up? Didn't it capsize as Rambler? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wildboats 4 #560 Posted October 20, 2017 15 minutes ago, SCANAS said: Got the order mixed up? Didn't it capsize as Rambler? can't remember exact order either, Ive lost track - but Virgin was in there somewhere ?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thefirstpelican 12 #561 Posted October 21, 2017 Built as Speedboat. Chartered by Branson for a TransAt attempt to promote Virgin Finance. Then Rambler, which Maverick and goose flew upside down over a Russian Mig in the Fastnet. Became Guano repository. Bell purchased it and it went to Cooksons, under the direction, I believe of the same guy that redid Ragamuffin 100,to achieve Germanishcer compliance. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Car Ramrod 10 #562 Posted October 21, 2017 Loyspeedblermoneytrack 69 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HMM263 16 #563 Posted October 22, 2017 First bum wet after the refit in 2013 we were on the 54m parked next door Bonus Virgin Money pic: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matt DI 16 #564 Posted October 25, 2017 Not the best shot but here is Chris Dragon on the boat heading to Australia for the race. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jono 42 #565 Posted October 25, 2017 I thought YDL did the rebuild after the capsize. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DtM 544 #567 Posted October 26, 2017 Maybe the Prince wants another go after his win at Hammo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jack_sparrow 7,613 #568 Posted October 26, 2017 Must be doing another sailing/night clubbing tour. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flippin Out 130 #569 Posted October 26, 2017 Will be some great racing for the 50 footers again, 10 x TP52's currently on the list. Plus other around the mark, Cookson 50's, Rogers 46, Farr 55 etc. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jack_sparrow 7,613 #570 Posted October 26, 2017 Must have done a special entry deal...question is will they make it in time? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SCANAS 523 #571 Posted October 26, 2017 Sad that RAVE might never sail but I guess those countrymen will get it out on some blue water at least. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LB 15 4,884 #572 Posted October 27, 2017 A few square jawed types busy around the big Indian yesterday. Gee I hope they get paid. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sugarscoop 68 #573 Posted October 30, 2017 Entries closed. No Scallywag by the looks. Would have been good for someone to charter the boat for this race. Best show of supermaxis in history. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Next Level 15 #574 Posted October 30, 2017 PoD on the baby Oats? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SCANAS 523 #575 Posted October 30, 2017 1 hour ago, Sugarscoop said: Entries closed. No Scallywag by the looks. Would have been good for someone to charter the boat for this race. Best show of supermaxis in history. You might have answered yourself there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jack_sparrow 7,613 #576 Posted October 30, 2017 SW in would have made answer to question who is at the back a lot harder Scan, now it's Loyal on its lonesome. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SCANAS 523 #577 Posted October 30, 2017 I thought someone said it was in a shed being modded for this race & getting it to Sydney would be the qualifier? Anyway I kinda lost interest once in Rags100 when Rambler 88 almost beat a 100' built for this race. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HMM263 16 #578 Posted October 30, 2017 On 26/10/2017 at 12:13 PM, Jono said: I thought YDL did the rebuild after the capsize. They did indeed. Cookson did the work to turn LahZanOlta into Rio100. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HMM263 16 #579 Posted October 30, 2017 5 hours ago, SCANAS said: I thought someone said it was in a shed being modded for this race & getting it to Sydney would be the qualifier? Anyway I kinda lost interest once in Rags100 when Rambler 88 almost beat a 100' built for this race. Might have been worth leaving it as the skinny GE design she used to be and going with a nose job, hindsight being as it is. Edit: Though at this rate Indian is the only S2H winner in the last 15 years to have avoided some cosmetic surgery... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DtM 544 #580 Posted October 30, 2017 How much has been done to Alfa/Esmit/BlackJack ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SCANAS 523 #581 Posted October 30, 2017 https://spark.adobe.com/page/cBRjjcxw6TY0g/ Be interesting to see if they go for a nose job / finer entry. At this stage they said they are aiming to own the lighter wind range & results from Hammo certainly proved that. Could be a smart move. WOXI modded to bride the gap with Comanche so left the door open at the other end. If it's light for 3-4hours that could easily be enough to put BJ too far in front for WOXI or COMANCHE to mow back down. Should be the closest one for a while. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pulpit 192 #582 Posted October 30, 2017 1 hour ago, DtM said: How much has been done to Alfa/Esmit/BlackJack ? Last time I spoke to the boys on BJ the mods haven’t been that great. Single Dagger board forward lifting rudder and sail area changes. The boys told me that if they play with the keel or fin they will lose the tungsten bulb that is grandfathered. 10 ton almost half the size of a 10 ton lead bulb. So the boat is is still almost as designed. What other changes could they do ? The mast is about 3-4 m shorted than Oats. BJ owns 12 knots and under why go taller mast. They Could cut and shut the boat to increase the down wind performance, should of bought the Indian for the money it would cost to do that. So what have the boys got left to do ? Longer bowsprit, bigger kites and maybe DSS. BJ is still one of the best all round boats that is still very close to her original design and still sails to her rating. pulpit Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
terrafirma 1,079 #583 Posted October 31, 2017 14 hours ago, DtM said: How much has been done to Alfa/Esmit/BlackJack ? They have a boat that will be most likely the fastest in the fleet in the 5-12 knot range. It's pointless trying to compete with Oats and Comanche in the higher wind range given the mods Oats has done to be stronger which was driven by Comanche's strengths. Given the tungsten scenario and they also went to RP for any ideas they now know where there at. I think this makes sense for them. They will be sailed very well too and if Comanche and Oats get caught out 2 boat racing they could slip through somewhere given the opportunity. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Car Ramrod 10 #584 Posted October 31, 2017 Don't forget breakages in the the top end of the fleet. Plus if it's a big boat year, they could be closer for the overall by virtue of sailing to a better handicap. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DtM 544 #585 Posted October 31, 2017 That 5 - 12 knot range is a very narrow window to try to win an S2H in my view. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
duncan (the other one) 670 #586 Posted October 31, 2017 1 hour ago, DtM said: That 5 - 12 knot range is a very narrow window to try to win an S2H in my view. dunno - lots to be gained in those regions (think of the Big Indian's park up the first S2H they did, and WOXI's escape). It tends to be either 25+ on the nose, 25+ up the bum, with something weak (think SE/E) in the transitions. Those transitions are where you can make the break from the competition. Light and skinny also tends to win on VMG downwind unless its really honking or from a favourable direction. That, and the inevitable lottery across Storm Bay and up the river. That's 30nm of potential nothing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kawalski 33 #587 Posted November 1, 2017 20 hours ago, DtM said: That 5 - 12 knot range is a very narrow window to try to win an S2H in my view. Apparently average wind speed for S2H is in the region of 7-8 knots. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LB 15 4,884 #588 Posted November 1, 2017 Not in the customs house it isn't. 40 - 50 would be closer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PIL66 - XL2 917 #589 Posted November 1, 2017 On 10/30/2017 at 11:53 PM, pulpit said: Last time I spoke to the boys on BJ the mods haven’t been that great. Single Dagger board forward lifting rudder and sail area changes. The boys told me that if they play with the keel or fin they will lose the tungsten bulb that is grandfathered. 10 ton almost half the size of a 10 ton lead bulb. So the boat is is still almost as designed. What other changes could they do ? The mast is about 3-4 m shorted than Oats. BJ owns 12 knots and under why go taller mast. They Could cut and shut the boat to increase the down wind performance, should of bought the Indian for the money it would cost to do that. So what have the boys got left to do ? Longer bowsprit, bigger kites and maybe DSS. BJ is still one of the best all round boats that is still very close to her original design and still sails to her rating. pulpit Tungsten bulb half the size at the same weight as lead...? Me thinks not... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SCANAS 523 #590 Posted November 1, 2017 Google says: Lead 11.3g/cm3 Tungsten 19.4g/cm3 Is WOXI's mast really 3-4m longer than BJ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DickDastardly 234 #591 Posted November 2, 2017 1 hour ago, SCANAS said: Google says: Lead 11.3g/cm3 Tungsten 19.4g/cm3 Is WOXI's mast really 3-4m longer than BJ? While Tungsten is seriously heavy stuff, in practice the density is a bit less. Tungsten is hard stuff to work with and can't be cast easily (melts at 3422 degrees celsius) is, so as I understand it "tungsten" bulbs are ususally made of tungsten ingots cast into a lead bulb. And - see below, tungsten ingots aren't pure tungsten in any case. Wikipedia to the rescue: "Tungsten is extracted from its ores in several stages. The ore is eventually converted to tungsten(VI) oxide (WO3), which is heated with hydrogen or carbon to produce powdered tungsten.[31] Because of tungsten's high melting point, it is not commercially feasible to cast tungsten ingots. Instead, powdered tungsten is mixed with small amounts of powdered nickel or other metals, and sintered. During the sintering process, the nickel diffuses into the tungsten, producing an alloy." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SCANAS 523 #592 Posted November 2, 2017 So less than half as dense & can't be cast so we're talking 10-20% less drag (sorry surface area) over the bulb area? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
