low bum 5 Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 For a boat with a Nordic heritage, that tiller has a distinctly Tudor look to it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RedRyder 28 Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 https://worcester.craigslist.org/boa/d/ashland-25-foot-sloop/6918828982.html Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SloopJonB 8,583 Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 I'd grab that in a heartbeat. Early S&S 1/4 Tonner. A miniature Tartan 41. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AnotherSailor 258 Posted June 24, 2019 Share Posted June 24, 2019 On 6/11/2019 at 6:32 AM, southerncross said: KNARR SLOOP US124 , PIPER built by Borreson, Knarr #52, built in 1966, and won the 1966 World Championships in Copenhagen 1966. PIPER had a bottom job and service at the Spaulding Boatworks Sausalito 2017. Fresh paint and varnish, inside and out, and is in very good overall condition. Wooden mast in very good shape, newer rigging. Main and jib sails in very good shape, and full canvas boat cover. Was recently donated by owner of over 30 years to an educational sailing non-profit. Not a project boat. Looking for a wooden boat/ Knarr aficionado to take it the next 30 years. Would be hard to find a cleaner boat in this price range. $4,900. https://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/boa/6909295320.html That is a pretty nice deal, if you are able to keep up the maintenance on a wooden boat. They sail these every Wednesday evening on the city front, not as big a fleet as the folkboats, but they are beautiful. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RedRyder 28 Posted June 25, 2019 Share Posted June 25, 2019 12 hours ago, SloopJonB said: I'd grab that in a heartbeat. Early S&S 1/4 Tonner. A miniature Tartan 41. Heck yes. If only it had a trailer and I had a place to keep it... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
A guy in the Chesapeake 1,674 Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 https://annapolis.craigslist.org/boa/d/cambridge-bounty-ii/6905567631.html She draws a little deep for lots of spots in the Bay - but, what gorgeous lines. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stumblingthunder 576 Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 40 minutes ago, A guy in the Chesapeake said: https://annapolis.craigslist.org/boa/d/cambridge-bounty-ii/6905567631.html She draws a little deep for lots of spots in the Bay - but, what gorgeous lines. Beautiful boat! Unfortunately, the "SA Offsetters" would be accusing Phillip Rhodes of designing a killer with the companionway... - Stumbling Quote Link to post Share on other sites
woahboy 215 Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 1 hour ago, stumblingthunder said: Beautiful boat! Unfortunately, the "SA Offsetters" would be accusing Phillip Rhodes of designing a killer with the companionway... - Stumbling Beat me too it. But it is a beauty. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SloopJonB 8,583 Posted June 26, 2019 Share Posted June 26, 2019 Nobody ever drew a sweeter sheer than Rhodes. Or ever will. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hukilau 129 Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 2 hours ago, SloopJonB said: Nobody ever drew a sweeter sheer than Rhodes. Or ever will. True. No one seems to want a swooping sheer line anymore. And for my money, Alberg could match ol' Phil for drawing a heart-stoppingly beautiful boat. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
socalrider 447 Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 10 hours ago, A guy in the Chesapeake said: https://annapolis.craigslist.org/boa/d/cambridge-bounty-ii/6905567631.html She draws a little deep for lots of spots in the Bay - but, what gorgeous lines. Gorgeous. Looks like there might be a minimum girth requirement for the helmsman to comfortably tack with that mizzen in the way. That was probably less of an issue when it was drawn. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hukilau 129 Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 8 hours ago, socalrider said: Gorgeous. Looks like there might be a minimum girth requirement for the helmsman to comfortably tack with that mizzen in the way. That was probably less of an issue when it was drawn. Looks like it was designed for the helmsman to sit on either side of the mizzen. But your point about the expansion of the average American ass is spot on. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SloopJonB 8,583 Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 That mizzen could be discarded with zero effect on the boats performance. Those dinky CCA yawl mizzens were a rule beating trick - might gain a tiny bit with a mizzen staysail on a broad reach but overall not worth the trouble. My Columbia 43 came with one and I sold it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
woahboy 215 Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 13 hours ago, Hukilau said: True. No one seems to want a swooping sheer line anymore. And for my money, Alberg could match ol' Phil for drawing a heart-stoppingly beautiful boat. My boat was designed my McCurdy & Rhodes. I wonder who came up with this sheer? I like it's lines. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chester 767 Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 some guy with a straight edge? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hukilau 129 Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 6 minutes ago, woahboy said: My boat was designed my McCurdy & Rhodes. I wonder who came up with this sheer? I'm a big fan of the Seafarers. As pretty as the 26 is, she has a flatter sheer than what I've always thought of as the classic, swoopy sheer. There's a Seafarer 31 berthed at the yacht club next to my marina. Just a beautiful, beautiful boat. A Bill Tripp design. Totally impractical for the way I sail, but I do love to look at her, whether she's at the dock or sailing: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
woahboy 215 Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 @Hukilau. I do agree that the 31 is a bit more "Classic" looking than mine. Maybe mine is more of a Phil Rhodes design. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
woahboy 215 Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 8 minutes ago, chester said: some guy with a straight edge? @chester You could be right. Oh well. I like her. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chester 767 Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 Just now, woahboy said: @chester You could be right. Oh well. I like her. absolutely! i was just riffin' Quote Link to post Share on other sites
woahboy 215 Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 Just now, chester said: absolutely! i was just riffin' I know...... No offense taken. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chester 767 Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 11 minutes ago, woahboy said: I know...... No offense taken. whew...disciples of the mighty bull rail have to stick together! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
woahboy 215 Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 All Hail!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SloopJonB 8,583 Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 3 hours ago, woahboy said: @Hukilau. I do agree that the 31 is a bit more "Classic" looking than mine. Maybe mine is more of a Phil Rhodes design. M&R was not Phil Rhodes - McCurdy worked for Phil and Bodie was (I believe) Phil's son. That firm started in the mid 60's and Phil died around '70 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
woahboy 215 Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 7 minutes ago, SloopJonB said: M&R was not Phil Rhodes - McCurdy worked for Phil and Bodie was (I believe) Phil's son. That firm started in the mid 60's and Phil died around '70 Ahh, okay. Thanks for sorting that out for me. All in all, I still like the lines of my 4kSB Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SemiSalt 215 Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 4 hours ago, woahboy said: My boat was designed my McCurdy & Rhodes. I wonder who came up with this sheer? I like it's lines. Probably James McCurdy. https://www.nytimes.com/1994/08/24/obituaries/james-mccurdy-72-designer-and-racer-of-ocean-sailboats.html Lots of fiberglass boats have straight sheers, which sounds like a contradiction in terms. I think it's an ease-of-construction thing, meaning also a low cost thing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
woahboy 215 Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 6 minutes ago, SemiSalt said: Lots of fiberglass boats have straight sheers, which sounds like a contradiction in terms. I think it's an ease-of-construction thing, meaning also a low cost thing. She is sturdy. No balsa core to get wet. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SloopJonB 8,583 Posted June 27, 2019 Share Posted June 27, 2019 14 minutes ago, SemiSalt said: Probably James McCurdy. https://www.nytimes.com/1994/08/24/obituaries/james-mccurdy-72-designer-and-racer-of-ocean-sailboats.html Lots of fiberglass boats have straight sheers, which sounds like a contradiction in terms. I think it's an ease-of-construction thing, meaning also a low cost thing. I think it's more an interior space thing and a wide beam thing - wide boats generally don't look right with low swept sheers - they can look like bananas when they heel a little. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Monkey Butler 104 Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 I want this. Only problem is I'm in Central Mass. and driving to Florida tomorrow or I would go take a look. https://albany.craigslist.org/boa/d/albany-sailboat/6917525180.html Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HFC Hunter 147 Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 Mass eh? Amazed they manages to work Massachusetts into a lyric. Up with with the Wichita Lineman. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Monkey Butler 104 Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 The good ole days before elecrltronic tolling... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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Monkey Butler 104 Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 12 minutes ago, HFC Hunter said: Mass eh? Amazed they manages to work Massachusetts into a lyric. Up with with the Wichita Lineman. So can you go take a look and put deposit in it for me or not? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HFC Hunter 147 Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 2 hours ago, Monkey Butler said: So can you go take a look and put deposit in it for me or not? There ain’t much more Earth possible twixt it and me right now. But here’s some driving music for ya: I see your Adam, and raise you this one. Best listened to on mute. (Jump to 2.30 but don’t expect much - it morphs into some sort of a trailer trash ceilidh to hillbilly fiddle whilst butchering the original ) 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mcsailor0303 34 Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 13 hours ago, Monkey Butler said: I want this. Only problem is I'm in Central Mass. and driving to Florida tomorrow or I would go take a look. https://albany.craigslist.org/boa/d/albany-sailboat/6917525180.html That's a smoking deal as long as the sails are decent! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Maxx Baqustae 249 Posted June 28, 2019 Share Posted June 28, 2019 21 hours ago, SloopJonB said: I think it's more an interior space thing and a wide beam thing - wide boats generally don't look right with low swept sheers - they can look like bananas when they heel a little. Funny - some of my first experiences are with a half tonner. A modified Santana 26 lengthened from the transom back to make it a 28' half tonner under IOR. The owner built a 3/4 ton Mull design for the '78 world's in Victoria. I'm was just a helper, not a shipwright, but highly involved with the project for two years. But I raced on a Chaser 29 "Hortense" in the '80s with some success winning V.A.R.C. boat of the year (highest points for any boat for the season) twice; with two different owners! Good boat but not exactly a cruising boat. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Norse Horse 611 Posted July 3, 2019 Share Posted July 3, 2019 Well, she sure is pretty. https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/boa/d/san-francisco-little-bird-boat-chewink/6899402508.html Quote Link to post Share on other sites
A guy in the Chesapeake 1,674 Posted July 3, 2019 Share Posted July 3, 2019 14 hours ago, Norse Horse said: Well, she sure is pretty. https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/boa/d/san-francisco-little-bird-boat-chewink/6899402508.html If one of you SF guys bus this, I'd love to see the pics. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Excoded Tom 1,555 Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 Chevy Duck Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AnotherSailor 258 Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 2 hours ago, Importunate Tom said: Chevy Duck How is that not mockworthy? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Steam Flyer 5,286 Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 7 hours ago, AnotherSailor said: 9 hours ago, Importunate Tom said: Chevy Duck How is that not mockworthy? Well, the basic boat is a class called the Puddle Duck, so it's kind of self-mocking already. I think it looks very cool I wonder if the run signals work FB- Doug Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RedRyder 28 Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 "Finish the dream" https://newhaven.craigslist.org/boa/d/jesup-finish-the-dream/6925843456.html What's not to love? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Excoded Tom 1,555 Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 3 hours ago, Steam Flyer said: 11 hours ago, AnotherSailor said: 13 hours ago, Importunate Tom said: Chevy Duck How is that not mockworthy? Well, the basic boat is a class called the Puddle Duck, so it's kind of self-mocking already. I think it looks very cool I wonder if the run signals work FB- Doug What Doug said. I believe I remember the headlights working, not sure about the turn signals. Also, I think this one was part of a heroic herd of PDR's that rescued a capsized, dismasted boat on the TX200 and used spare PDR rig parts to build a jury rig which allowed the rescued boat to finish. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Santana20AE 211 Posted July 6, 2019 Share Posted July 6, 2019 9 hours ago, RedRyder said: "Finish the dream" https://newhaven.craigslist.org/boa/d/jesup-finish-the-dream/6925843456.html What's not to love? I hate to be negative, but this is more of a finish the “Nightmare” Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SloopJonB 8,583 Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 That one has been posted a couple of times before. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Steam Flyer 5,286 Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 29 minutes ago, SloopJonB said: That one has been posted a couple of times before. And still inspiring mockery. Maybe that's the dream? FB- Doug Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Ed 439 Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 Am laid up with sciatica! Yuk. Have been assuaging my soul by perving over boats, but have only added one to my large psychic fleet - this real poppet of a creek crawler https://www.boatsandoutboards.co.uk/Daysailer-for-sale/halmatic-whaler-lifting-keel/261753 A lovely hull with an odd but beautiful rig, and a most peculiar conversion. As the ad doesn't say: WSSSSS; Well Suited for a Solitary Sailor of Short Stature 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Excoded Tom 1,555 Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 8 hours ago, SloopJonB said: That one has been posted a couple of times before. Yes, but this is the first time anyone has suggested we NOT mock it. I'm not sure what else to do? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fah Kiew Tu 2,088 Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 2 hours ago, Importunate Tom said: Yes, but this is the first time anyone has suggested we NOT mock it. I'm not sure what else to do? Chainsaw...... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stumblingthunder 576 Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 2 hours ago, Fah Kiew Tu said: Chainsaw...... Dynamite in a drum of gasoline, for that flambé finish? - Stumbling 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
socalrider 447 Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 21 hours ago, Mr. Ed said: A lovely hull with an odd but beautiful rig, and a most peculiar conversion. As the ad doesn't say: WSSSSS; Well Suited for a Solitary Sailor of Short Stature Very cool vessel - but what is the point of that rig? Gaff + boomless, looks like it's sheeted to the tip of the canoe stern - how do you get the clew out downwind? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Ed 439 Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 I think it’s sheeted to a little horse over the tiller, and you have indeed picked the rig’s weak point. Having said that there’s lots of precedent for loose footed mains, including the famous Irens Romilly. I think there may be a whisker pole lashed to the starboard shroud for use in holding it out downwind. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Excoded Tom 1,555 Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 4 hours ago, socalrider said: Very cool vessel - but what is the point of that rig? Gaff + boomless, looks like it's sheeted to the tip of the canoe stern - how do you get the clew out downwind? Pushing the clew out is one of the few uses for the paddle on my Adventure Island. The others are whapping the sail to unstick telltales, emergency rudder, and going backward, though I understand the newer Mirage Drives have some kind of reverse gear. The paddle is totally obsolete for forward propulsion. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SloopJonB 8,583 Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 Looks like someone is going to get a lot of boat for few $$$. One of my long time favourites. https://vancouver.craigslist.org/van/boa/d/vancouver-ericson-39a/6934303741.html Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Steam Flyer 5,286 Posted July 15, 2019 Share Posted July 15, 2019 1 hour ago, SloopJonB said: Looks like someone is going to get a lot of boat for few $$$. One of my long time favourites. https://vancouver.craigslist.org/van/boa/d/vancouver-ericson-39a/6934303741.html Those are cool boats. That would definitely be worth looking at. I like the arch over the companionway FB- Doug Quote Link to post Share on other sites
southerncross 3,901 Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 Custom Wylie 45 Yacht - Amazing story - $75000 (oakland rockridge / claremont) https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/boa/6935973653.html 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Ed 439 Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 5 hours ago, southerncross said: Custom Wylie 45 Yacht - Amazing story - $75000 (oakland rockridge / claremont) https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/boa/6935973653.html I wonder what that huge SS structure sticking out from the back is? The radar is on the backstay so it’s not for that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
European Bloke 489 Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 1 hour ago, Mr. Ed said: I wonder what that huge SS structure sticking out from the back is? The radar is on the backstay so it’s not for that. Wind vein steering. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stumblingthunder 576 Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 2 hours ago, European Bloke said: Wind vein steering. main vein steering is a manual operation. - Stumbling 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
European Bloke 489 Posted July 18, 2019 Share Posted July 18, 2019 1 hour ago, stumblingthunder said: main vein steering is a manual operation. - Stumbling You make me feel like Snaggy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Leeroy Jenkins 219 Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 On 7/15/2019 at 11:14 AM, SloopJonB said: Looks like someone is going to get a lot of boat for few $$$. One of my long time favourites. https://vancouver.craigslist.org/van/boa/d/vancouver-ericson-39a/6934303741.html Already taken down. Where was it being kept? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Diarmuid 706 Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 On 7/8/2019 at 12:29 AM, Mr. Ed said: I think it’s sheeted to a little horse over the tiller, and you have indeed picked the rig’s weak point. Having said that there’s lots of precedent for loose footed mains, including the famous Irens Romilly. I think there may be a whisker pole lashed to the starboard shroud for use in holding it out downwind. Hrrmmm. Hinge that whisker pole to the lower portion of the mast to provide both downward and outward tension on the clew, and you have just created a revolutionary sail control device! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SloopJonB 8,583 Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 3 hours ago, Leeroy Jenkins said: Already taken down. Where was it being kept? It was down a few hours after being posted. The ad indicated Coal Harbour. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bull City 1,597 Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 On 7/6/2019 at 9:03 AM, RedRyder said: "Finish the dream" https://newhaven.craigslist.org/boa/d/jesup-finish-the-dream/6925843456.html What's not to love? I'm surprised this one is still available. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Windward 405 Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 On 7/7/2019 at 12:58 AM, Mr. Ed said: Am laid up with sciatica! Yuk. Have been assuaging my soul by perving over boats, but have only added one to my large psychic fleet - this real poppet of a creek crawler https://www.boatsandoutboards.co.uk/Daysailer-for-sale/halmatic-whaler-lifting-keel/261753 A lovely hull with an odd but beautiful rig, and a most peculiar conversion. As the ad doesn't say: WSSSSS; Well Suited for a Solitary Sailor of Short Stature Does "this real poppet of a creek crawler" mean that it is of shallow draft? And what are all those holes in the cliffs? Car park? Cannon openings? End of days bunker? (oh wait... that came and went, didn't it?) I like the bow, but the cabin looks like a pop-up Catalina 22. edit: I have it! Holes are for the sweeps. This way they can turn the island around for better sun angles. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KC375 1,687 Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 31 minutes ago, Windward said: Does "this real poppet of a creek crawler" mean that it is of shallow draft? And what are all those holes in the cliffs? Car park? Cannon openings? End of days bunker? (oh wait... that came and went, didn't it?) I like the bow, but the cabin looks like a pop-up Catalina 22. edit: I have it! Holes are for the sweeps. This way they can turn the island around for better sun angles. Needles Old Battery sea level fort gun ports at the foot of the Needles Alum Bay uk and the inside view 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Windward 405 Posted July 27, 2019 Share Posted July 27, 2019 That is super cool. The second video. Accessible only from the sea I would guess. Creepy to be in those tunnels nice closing shot with a sailboat. A+ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Oceanconcepts 174 Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 Don't know if this has turned up before, but someone on Cruiser's forum wanted to know if this Farr design, Gerontius, would be an appropriate boat for a new sailor- they were concerned about it having a wood hull. https://honolulu.craigslist.org/oah/boa/d/honolulu-42-sailboat-moving-must-sell/6932592898.html Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SloopJonB 8,583 Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 Nice entry level boat. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ishmael 6,419 Posted August 3, 2019 Author Share Posted August 3, 2019 7 hours ago, SloopJonB said: Nice entry level boat. And it's well set up for singlehanding. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Diarmuid 706 Posted August 3, 2019 Share Posted August 3, 2019 8 hours ago, SloopJonB said: Nice entry level boat. 50 minutes ago, Ishmael said: And it's well set up for singlehanding. Sure. But after a year or two, you outgrow it and start longing for a boat with more cupholders and without Peter Blake's name carved into the dinette. Potential buyer is in Hawaii? If so, there are probably several ferros in Ala Wai more suitable as a first boat, and they do hold their resale value better. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Excoded Tom 1,555 Posted August 3, 2019 Share Posted August 3, 2019 Mocking the intended use by a newb is fun but the ad itself deserves attention. Quote Need sold NOW. Give-away price! It’s a steal at this price! (The two main winches alone are $8k EACH new (Lewmar 60/3R’s)) MUST SELL!!! MOVING TO EUROPE!!! I am literally giving away tens and tens of thousands of dollars in equity. You could buy the boat, sail or ship it to NZ, and sell it there for many many times the price. I will not be dropping the price any further. This is your last chance to own this beautiful piece of sailing history! *** Fair Market Value is listed at $45,000 & Replacement Value is $850,000! *** How to tell if your boat really has a giveaway price tag: it doesn't remain on the market for weeks. Equity? In an old race boat made of wood? Markets aren't all that fair to old boats, wooden boats, or especially race boats, so Fair Market Value is almost as funny a concept as equity. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hawaiidart 103 Posted August 3, 2019 Share Posted August 3, 2019 19 hours ago, Oceanconcepts said: Don't know if this has turned up before, but someone on Cruiser's forum wanted to know if this Farr design, Gerontius, would be an appropriate boat for a new sailor- they were concerned about it having a wood hull. https://honolulu.craigslist.org/oah/boa/d/honolulu-42-sailboat-moving-must-sell/6932592898.html Having worked the pit-notice how it has it's own little office space- on that boat for a Lipton Cup regatta, I can tell you that's a whole lot of boat for a new sailor or a sailor without a whole lot of friends. The wood part speaks for itself. Another whole lot of people in Hawaii have pumped/bailed a whole lot of ocean out of that boat over a whole lot of years. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
longy 539 Posted August 3, 2019 Share Posted August 3, 2019 As I mentioned on another thread recently, this boat has been heavily modified with a low budget "git er dun" mindset. Much taller rig with in line shrouds, wheel steering, that pit area inset, teak decks removed, who knows what else down below?? Get a serious survey. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Andrew 0 Posted August 3, 2019 Share Posted August 3, 2019 On 7/6/2019 at 6:31 AM, Steam Flyer said: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Ed 439 Posted August 3, 2019 Share Posted August 3, 2019 3 hours ago, longy said: As I mentioned on another thread recently, this boat has been heavily modified with a low budget "git er dun" mindset. Much taller rig with in line shrouds, wheel steering, that pit area inset, teak decks removed, who knows what else down below?? Get a serious survey. What could possibly go right? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
longy 539 Posted August 3, 2019 Share Posted August 3, 2019 Not saying it hasn't worked, but just advising wide open eyes when looking at buying her. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Steam Flyer 5,286 Posted August 4, 2019 Share Posted August 4, 2019 This seems interesting to me- https://columbia.craigslist.org/boa/d/elgin-19-customflex-mallard-sailboat/6948207712.html Customflex built a lot of racing dinghies Back In The Day but I never saw anything like this mini-cruiser. Hull looks shapely, unlike a lot of mini-cruisers. It also looks unlikely to respond well to being loaded down, though. That's a LOT of cabin for a little boat, other than that I like it. FB- Doug Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Excoded Tom 1,555 Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 On 8/4/2019 at 12:51 PM, Steam Flyer said: That's a LOT of cabin for a little boat, other than that I like it. If it's going to be a cabin worthy of the name on a boat that small, it has to kind of stand out. I think I'd like the cabin in inclement weather. But I'd probably prefer to just be ashore until it's nice out. Nice for those Watertribers who continue in most any weather. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stumblingthunder 576 Posted August 7, 2019 Share Posted August 7, 2019 On 8/5/2019 at 8:27 PM, Repastinate Tom said: If it's going to be a cabin worthy of the name on a boat that small, it has to kind of stand out. I think I'd like the cabin in inclement weather. But I'd probably prefer to just be ashore until it's nice out. Nice for those Watertribers who continue in most any weather. Actually, for Watertribers who stop in most inclement weather! - Stumbling Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Maxx Baqustae 249 Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 This won't last: https://vancouver.craigslist.org/nvn/boa/d/west-vancouver-41-sceptre-41-custom/6953047179.html 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hukilau 129 Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 1 hour ago, Maxx Baqustae said: This won't last: https://vancouver.craigslist.org/nvn/boa/d/west-vancouver-41-sceptre-41-custom/6953047179.html now that is a well-loved and cared for yacht. But those electronics... yeesh. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SloopJonB 8,583 Posted August 9, 2019 Share Posted August 9, 2019 That is close to 1/2 price for one of those boats. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
luminary 34 Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 On 8/9/2019 at 2:46 PM, SloopJonB said: That is close to 1/2 price for one of those boats. Isn't that how its supposed to go with used boats? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SloopJonB 8,583 Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 I meant 1/2 the usual price for a used one - I usually see them from $200K and up. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
luminary 34 Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 I'm skeptical of the used boat market. Most of the time, I hear stories of great boats being given away. I only rarely hear of boats being sold for asking and asking near what they cost. I don't mind the idea of buying a boat. I just want to be able to move on when the time comes. A boat wont let you do that. I'm leaning towards a participation involvement at the moment. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SloopJonB 8,583 Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 The brokerage market seems to have stabilized here - the huge gaps between asking and selling prices have pretty well disappeared. https://torontoyachtsales.com/blog.php?id=61 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
luminary 34 Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 That's kind of interesting. 208 boats sold in June. Must just be through that agency? Still - you can expect to wait 1-2 years to sell at 10% discount off list. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Excoded Tom 1,555 Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 The tub and wine (or possibly soda) cellar are a hoot. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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