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"Private equity firm Apollo Global Management reportedly in November lent $184 million to Kushner Companies to refinance the mortgage on a Chicago skyscraper, while Citigroup in the spring of 2017 lent Kushner Companies and one of its partners $325 million to finance Brooklyn office buildings. The report comes one day after Kushner's White House security clearance was downgraded, and that he will no longer be able to view top secret intelligence. It also comes as special counsel Robert Mueller probes alleged ties between the Trump campaign and Russian election meddling, including Kushner's role in the campaign. 

A spokesman for Kushner's attorney Abbe Lowell told The Times that Kushner “has met with hundreds of business people," and “has taken no part of any business, loans or projects with or for” his family's business since joining the White House. 

Kushner Companies Christine Taylor said Kushner's position in the Trump administration had not impacted the company's dealings with financial firms. 

“Stories like these attempt to make insinuating connections that do not exist to disparage the financial institutions and companies involved,” she said.

An Apollo spokesman told the publication that the loan “went through the firm’s standard approval process," while Citigroup said the firm's relationship with Kushner Companies was not connected to Kushner's White House role."

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/376177-kushner-group-got-millions-in-loans-after-a-white-house-meeting

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you need to brush up on what the emoluments clause actually covers

No Title of Nobility shall be granted by the United States: And no Person holding any Office of Profit or Trust under them, shall, without the Consent of the Congress, accept of any present, Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind whatever, from any King, Prince, or foreign State

or, do you think agm and citi are foreign?

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17 hours ago, Mismoyled Jiblet. said:


After Clinton and Obama I can't imagine the right wing having any leg to stand on, but I'm sure they'll try.

"everyone else" is not how this is played. Just ask @Dog

Sadly, I expect this to continue to spiral downward - The Rs that are still in office when the next D majority/White House occupant comes to be are going to play tit for tat.  

 

15 hours ago, Bent Sailor said:

Honestly, I think the shit show you've got now will prevent the next POTUS from giving reasonable cause for an investigation. Not every politician is as corrupt as Trump is. Hell, I honestly think Trump would have done a better job himself hiding this shit if he thought he had a chance of winning. Lots of his campaigns mistakes would never have been made if they thought they'd actually have to stick around for another four years under the microscope.

I'd like to think that you're right - but, unless someone comes in outta left field to surprise me?  I am pessimistic. 

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11 minutes ago, A guy in the Chesapeake said:

Sadly, I expect this to continue to spiral downward - The Rs that are still in office when the next D majority/White House occupant comes to be are going to play tit for tat.  

 

I'd like to think that you're right - but, unless someone comes in outta left field to surprise me?  I am pessimistic. 

 You’ve got to be kidding, arms are going to play tot for tat? What the hell do you think the are did for the last 20 years of Clinton-fear? Oh, and this is mostly republicans investigating republicans. Try not to be so partisan in your worldview

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3 hours ago, hermetic said:

it does smell, but didn't the kush actually divest himself from the family company?  the sci investigation looks at first person and immediate family investments

From the NYT article:

Mr. Kushner resigned as chief executive of Kushner Companies when he joined the White House last January, and he sold a small portion of his stake in the company to a trust controlled by his mother.

But he retained the vast majority of his interest in Kushner Companies. His real estate holdings and other investments are worth as much as $761 million, according to government ethics filings. They are likely worth much more, because that estimate has his firm’s debt subtracted from the value of his holdings. The company has done at least $7 billion of deals in the past decade.

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15 minutes ago, Ishmael said:
4 hours ago, hermetic said:

it does smell, but didn't the kush actually divest himself from the family company?  the sci investigation looks at first person and immediate family investments

From the NYT article:

Mr. Kushner resigned as chief executive of Kushner Companies when he joined the White House last January, and he sold a small portion of his stake in the company to a trust controlled by his mother.

But he retained the vast majority of his interest in Kushner Companies. His real estate holdings and other investments are worth as much as $761 million, according to government ethics filings. They are likely worth much more, because that estimate has his firm’s debt subtracted from the value of his holdings. The company has done at least $7 billion of deals in the past decade.

well that settles the divesting question.  thanks

I just can't see him getting any level of clearance while he's under investigation by mueller - that would top the financial questions

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5 hours ago, hermetic said:

it is reported to be information from an intelligence report so, no I don't feel fucking lucky that some assholes are leaking this kind of info out.  the whole point of having a job that requires clearance is you don't disclose what you know to anyone that doesn't have a need to know it.  it's a pretty simple concept

sweeping it under the rug? it's probably the reason kushner's sci is being held up - along with the kush being investigated by mueller

With this administration, leaking is considered a patriotic duty. 

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3 hours ago, hermetic said:

you need to brush up on what the emoluments clause actually covers

No Title of Nobility shall be granted by the United States: And no Person holding any Office of Profit or Trust under them, shall, without the Consent of the Congress, accept of any present, Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind whatever, from any King, Prince, or foreign State

or, do you think agm and citi are foreign?

Kush Co also does business in the ME, and yet he has the Israeli/Palestine Issue in his portfolio. His name was proudly touted by a sister in China in a presentation promising "Investor" green cards. Kush Cos has sought funding from an executive of Saudi billionaire Fawaz Alhokair, a South Korean sovereign fund, and Qatar.

He also met with Sergey Gorkov, head of the Kremlin controlled VEB bank in December 2016. 

Couple of those contacts are foreigners. Some of them would dearly love to have influence over our government and those entrusted with running it.

So, hermetic. Do YOU trust Jared? 

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1 hour ago, phillysailor said:
4 hours ago, hermetic said:

you need to brush up on what the emoluments clause actually covers

No Title of Nobility shall be granted by the United States: And no Person holding any Office of Profit or Trust under them, shall, without the Consent of the Congress, accept of any present, Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind whatever, from any King, Prince, or foreign State

or, do you think agm and citi are foreign?

Kush Co also does business in the ME, and yet he has the Israeli/Palestine Issue in his portfolio. His name was proudly touted by a sister in China in a presentation promising "Investor" green cards. Kush Cos has sought funding from an executive of Saudi billionaire Fawaz Alhokair, a South Korean sovereign fund, and Qatar.

He also met with Sergey Gorkov, head of the Kremlin controlled VEB bank in December 2016. 

Couple of those contacts are foreigners. Some of them would dearly love to have influence over our government and those entrusted with running it.

So, hermetic. Do YOU trust Jared? 

somebody at the fbi with a lot more information than you or i doesn't think he's trustworthy, so i'll go with that.

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4 hours ago, Raz'r said:

 You’ve got to be kidding, arms are going to play tot for tat? What the hell do you think the are did for the last 20 years of Clinton-fear? Oh, and this is mostly republicans investigating republicans. Try not to be so partisan in your worldview

Somebody have the decoder ring? Mine seems to be malfunctioning.

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22 minutes ago, Mrleft8 said:

Somebody have the decoder ring? Mine seems to be malfunctioning.

 

14 minutes ago, A guy in the Chesapeake said:

Suspect speech to text or autocorrect - and he meant "Rs" - 

Yep  Rs, arms, for Siri, it's all the same

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Ah!.....

 Now it makes sense! Thank you!

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Just now, bhyde said:

Seems that Kelly thinks God is punishing him. He's probably right.

https://www.npr.org/2018/03/01/589864333/white-house-chief-of-staff-kelly-didnt-want-to-leave-dhs-but-god-punished-me

I feel a "You're Fired!" coming.

And if fired, he will hit his head on a multi-million dollar book deal.  The stories from this administration promise to be epic.  Obama was, plain vanilla.

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Just now, Cal20sailor said:

And if fired, he will hit his head on a multi-million dollar book deal.  The stories from this administration promise to be epic.  Obama was, plain vanilla.

I'm pretty sure there was some chocolate there too.

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19 minutes ago, Ishmael said:

Trump's going to appoint Felix Sater to replace him.

Well, he only hires the best people. Felix pegs the creepy meter to about 11. How is it that he is still alive after rolling on the Russian Mob? Must not have been Putin's guys is my guess.

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If Trump only hires the best, and they've mostly all quit, or been fired, who's left?

 Nothing like being sloppy seconds for a scumbag like Trump.

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1 hour ago, Mrleft8 said:

If Trump only hires the best, and they've mostly all quit, or been fired, who's left?

 Nothing like being sloppy seconds for a scumbag like Trump.

Seconds?

Isn't he already down to 3rd & 4th picks for those WH jobs?

Is there anyone on his staff that was there from the start?

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3 hours ago, Cal20sailor said:
3 hours ago, bhyde said:

Seems that Kelly thinks God is punishing him. He's probably right.

https://www.npr.org/2018/03/01/589864333/white-house-chief-of-staff-kelly-didnt-want-to-leave-dhs-but-god-punished-me

I feel a "You're Fired!" coming.

And if fired, he will hit his head on a multi-million dollar book deal.  The stories from this administration promise to be epic.  Obama was, plain vanilla.

I wondered at the beginning if Kelley actually wanted to get in on the ground floor of an American dictatorship. Generals tend toward authoritarian attitudes. But almost all of them have an extremely strong sense of duty.  Kelley is a big WTF at this point. One of the few competents left on the inside. But as much as he craves power, I also agree with you that it's coming at a very high price for him.

At the beginning, people were pointing to Kelley and saying that Trump could not get too far off the path with Kelley as Chief of Staff. Now it's very widely considered that he's just as bent as Trump, only skinnier

-DSK

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...and in other, other news. More fun with our fellow patriots over at the NRA (National Russian Assoc.)

A prominent Kremlin-linked Russian politician has methodically cultivated ties with leaders of the National Rifle Association, and documented efforts in real time over six years to leverage those connections and gain access deeper into American politics, NPR has learned.

Russian politician Alexander Torshin claimed his ties to the National Rifle Association provided him access to Donald Trump — and the opportunity to serve as a foreign election observer in the United States during the 2012 election.

https://www.npr.org/2018/03/01/590076949/depth-of-russian-politicians-cultivation-of-nra-ties-revealed

It's probably nothing

 

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Dunno about the drip drip drip but the WH seems to be hemorrhaging staff,

Who's next in this ultimate  "Apprentice"

McMaster, Sessions, Gary Coln , Kelly? or the Prince of Pique himself?

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Another remarkable coincidence -

https://theintercept.com/2018/03/02/jared-kushner-real-estate-qatar-blockade/

Excerpt -

THE REAL ESTATE firm tied to the family of presidential son-in-law and top White House adviser Jared Kushner made a direct pitch to Qatar’s minister of finance in April 2017 in an attempt to secure investment in a critically distressed asset in the company’s portfolio, according to two sources. At the previously unreported meeting, Jared Kushner’s father Charles, who runs Kushner Companies, and Qatari Finance Minister Ali Sharif Al Emadi discussed financing for the Kushners’ signature 666 Fifth Avenue property in New York City.

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The failure to broker the deal would be followed only a month later by a Middle Eastern diplomatic row in which Jared Kushner provided critical support to Qatar’s neighbors. Led by Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates, a group of Middle Eastern countries, with Kushner’s backing, led a diplomatic assault that culminated in a blockade of Qatar. Kushner, according to reports at the time, subsequently undermined efforts by Secretary of State Rex Tillerson to bring an end to the standoff.

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33 minutes ago, Sean said:

Another remarkable coincidence -

https://theintercept.com/2018/03/02/jared-kushner-real-estate-qatar-blockade/

Excerpt -

THE REAL ESTATE firm tied to the family of presidential son-in-law and top White House adviser Jared Kushner made a direct pitch to Qatar’s minister of finance in April 2017 in an attempt to secure investment in a critically distressed asset in the company’s portfolio, according to two sources. At the previously unreported meeting, Jared Kushner’s father Charles, who runs Kushner Companies, and Qatari Finance Minister Ali Sharif Al Emadi discussed financing for the Kushners’ signature 666 Fifth Avenue property in New York City.

<snip>

The failure to broker the deal would be followed only a month later by a Middle Eastern diplomatic row in which Jared Kushner provided critical support to Qatar’s neighbors. Led by Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates, a group of Middle Eastern countries, with Kushner’s backing, led a diplomatic assault that culminated in a blockade of Qatar. Kushner, according to reports at the time, subsequently undermined efforts by Secretary of State Rex Tillerson to bring an end to the standoff.

 

Tillerson is an oil man from Texas, he might just put his foot up Kushie's precious little ass and take the boy for a walk. He seemed to be running short of patience last time I saw him on TV, but I am still convinced that he (Tillerson) working pretty hard to do a good job for the country. I wonder if he is feeling the call of power more than he wants mo' money.

-DSK

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Roger Stone was bold enough to mention Podesta soon being in a barrel. Trump gushed and mugged about Wikileaks, repeatedly.  These actions appear on Mueller's chart, used in precise interviews.

I wonder how Stone and Trump feel about that cheeky behavior this week.  Same for Guccifer 2 and Cozy Bear.

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Sometimes truth is stranger than fiction. This might be one of those times. 

The Steele dossier salacious bits are looking stronger all the time  

NY Times opinion - https://mobile.nytimes.com/2018/03/02/opinion/trump-russia-prostitute-instagram.html

The Trump-Russia Story Gets Even Weirder

Excerpt -

Nothing exemplifies this more than the strange saga of Anastasia Vashukevich. She is a Belarusian woman, a self-described “sex expert,” who is now in a Thai jail and who claims, in a desperate Instagram video, to be the “the missing link in the connection between Russia and the U.S. elections.”

<snip>

They were arrested there last Sunday, while teaching a “sex training” seminar for Russian tourists in the resort city of Pattaya. (The charges were working without a permit.) From what was apparently the back of an open-air police vehicle, Vashukevich made an Instagram video begging Americans for help. “I’m ready to give you all the missing puzzle pieces, support them with videos and audios, regarding the connections of our respected lawmakers with Trump, Manafort and the rest,” she said, according to CNN’s translation.

<snip>

 

But Vashukevich and Kirillov really are being detained, and, speaking from a police van, Kirillov told The Associated Press that he believes Russia is behind their arrests. He has reportedly sent a handwritten letter to the American Embassy in Thailand pleading for asylum in exchange for information.

Navalny told The A.P. he didn’t know what to think. “Shows like ‘Homeland’ begin to look entirely realistic when you look at what is happening in Russia now,” he said. “We thought the scriptwriters made the most impossible things up, but in Russia the most absurd things are possible.”

They are in America, too. Could a social-media-obsessed escort help explain the degrading nightmare of the Trump presidency? It seems like the preposterously lazy plot of a sub-B movie. But these days, so does everything else in our politics.

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News now is that Mueller is considering indicting the Russian hackers, defendants for whom there is no hope in hell of ever getting into a court room. We're down to hackers and hookers a few chicken shit convictions and 48 pages of drips. Nothing at all related to the election or the pretext for the investigation.

It's starting to look like a bust guys.

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13 minutes ago, Dog said:

News now is that Mueller is considering indicting the Russian hackers, defendants for whom there is no hope in hell of ever getting into a court room. We're down to hackers and hookers a few chicken shit convictions and 48 pages of drips. Nothing at all related to the election or the pretext for the investigation.

It's starting to look like a bust guys.

Sure. Keep telling yourself that.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/muellers-net-is-tightening-around-trumps-inner-circle--and-maybe-trump-himself/2018/03/01/2d864294-1d8c-11e8-9de1-147dd2df3829_story.html

WaPo opinion excerpt-
Mueller’s net is tightening around Trump’s inner circle — and maybe Trump himself

Special counsel Robert S. Mueller III is significantly turning up the heat on President Trump. While the president once again attacks his own attorney general and declares himself the victim of a “witch hunt,” he faces increasingly ominous signs that Mueller has the president’s innermost circle — and Trump himself — in his sights.

Mueller’s investigation has at least three tracks: 1) Russian interference with the 2016 election and the possible involvement of any Trump officials; 2) obstruction of justice and related coverup crimes; and 3) ancillary crimes discovered during the investigation, such as the money-laundering and other charges filed against Paul Manafort. In the past few days there have been reports of intensifying investigative activity focused on Trump’s own actions in all three areas.

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16 minutes ago, Dog said:

News now is that Mueller is considering indicting the Russian hackers, defendants for whom there is no hope in hell of ever getting into a court room. We're down to hackers and hookers a few chicken shit convictions and 48 pages of drips. Nothing at all related to the election or the pretext for the investigation.

It's starting to look like a bust guys.

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4 minutes ago, Sean said:

Sure. Keep telling yourself that.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/muellers-net-is-tightening-around-trumps-inner-circle--and-maybe-trump-himself/2018/03/01/2d864294-1d8c-11e8-9de1-147dd2df3829_story.html

WaPo opinion excerpt-
Mueller’s net is tightening around Trump’s inner circle — and maybe Trump himself

Special counsel Robert S. Mueller III is significantly turning up the heat on President Trump. While the president once again attacks his own attorney general and declares himself the victim of a “witch hunt,” he faces increasingly ominous signs that Mueller has the president’s innermost circle — and Trump himself — in his sights.

Mueller’s investigation has at least three tracks: 1) Russian interference with the 2016 election and the possible involvement of any Trump officials; 2) obstruction of justice and related coverup crimes; and 3) ancillary crimes discovered during the investigation, such as the money-laundering and other charges filed against Paul Manafort. In the past few days there have been reports of intensifying investigative activity focused on Trump’s own actions in all three areas.

Ok....I just think it may be time to start preparing yourselves. I worry about you guys.

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20 minutes ago, Dog said:

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It's starting to look like a bust guys.

Mueller has already shown this is the most crooked admin ever.

  • Campaign chair- felon
  • National Security Advsr.-- felon
  • Several foreign policy advisers- felons
  • Who's next?  The Kush?  

Ya, a real bust. 

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5 minutes ago, Dog said:

Ok....I just think it may be time to start preparing yourselves. I worry about you guys.

You gonna stick around after the deal goes down?  I am. I’ll be here to remind you about all the lying and corruption you could see before 1/20/17, and how little you see since. I’m going to make your life a daily hell of indictment counts and charge counts, and I am going to remind you of this bullshit you are now peddling, which will be force fed with Yoo Hoo. And you will pretend you never said this shit when you call me a dick for it. 

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25 minutes ago, Mismoyled Jiblet. said:

told ya so frenchie.

... remind me?  Haven't posted in this thread in quite awhile, and I'm not sure what you're referring to.

 

edit: never mind.  Hadn't revisited the "dow drops" thread, yet.

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1 minute ago, Sol Rosenberg said:

You gonna stick around after the deal goes down?  I am. I’ll be here to remind you about all the lying and corruption you could see before 1/20/17, and how little you see since. I’m going to make your life a daily hell of indictment counts and charge counts, and I am going to remind you of this bullshit you are now peddling, which will be force fed with Yoo Hoo. And you will pretend you never said this shit when you call me a dick for it. 

I'm quaking in my boots.

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Just now, Dog said:

I'm quaking in my boots.

Damn right you are. That’s why you are peddling this bullshit after the National Security Adviser has copped a plea, and the campaign chief is facing life in prison. You like whataboutism. How many indictments and guilty pleas were there in the Obama years?  

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37 minutes ago, Cal20sailor said:

To the rest of the world,

 

If we can survive this asshole, we can survive anything.

I have great faith in the American society as a whole.  You can survive this asshole, but it will set us back in standard of living for a while.

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1 minute ago, Sol Rosenberg said:

Damn right you are. That’s why you are peddling this bullshit after the National Security Adviser has copped a plea, and the campaign chief is facing life in prison. You like whataboutism. How many indictments and guilty pleas were there in the Obama years?  

Oh man......Now I'm fucking terrified, petrified, refried.

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10 minutes ago, Sol Rosenberg said:

Damn right you are. That’s why you are peddling this bullshit after the National Security Adviser has copped a plea, and the campaign chief is facing life in prison. You like whataboutism. How many indictments and guilty pleas were there in the Obama years?  

But her emails...his birth certificate...you don't get it.

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So The Kush's dad makes a pitch directly to the govt. of Qatar for money to bail out there real estate debacles.  Qatar turns them down.  A few weeks later Trump gets Qatar sanctioned/embargoed. Damn.  I bet the next time The Kush's dad goes begging for money from a foreign govt he gets it.

These fuckers are so crooked. 

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A month after the failed negotiations, Jared Kushner reportedly advised President Trump to back a blockade against Qatar, with Trump later tweeting in June that the country funded “radical ideology.” There have been previous reports that the Kushners sought financial backing from Qataris, but The Intercept claims that this is the first time the family firm has been revealed to have attempted to get money from a Qatari government minister.


 

https://www.thedailybeast.com/report-kushners-family-firm-sought-cash-from-qatari-govt-before-saudi-blockade?ref=home

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1 minute ago, Clove Hitch said:

So The Kush's dad makes a pitch directly to the govt. of Qatar for money to bail out there real estate debacles.  Qatar turns them down.  A few weeks later Trump gets Qatar sanctioned/embargoed. Damn.  I bet the next time The Kush's dad goes begging for money from a foreign govt he gets it.

These fuckers are so crooked. 

https://www.thedailybeast.com/report-kushners-family-firm-sought-cash-from-qatari-govt-before-saudi-blockade?ref=home

But Obama wrote a book.

That he gets royalties from.

So there!

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21 minutes ago, Mismoyled Jiblet. said:

It's related to the Trump tariff thread. Dog condemned Trump there and flops back to defending/"not defending" him in this thread.

Nothing is so bad he won't "not defend" Trump.

It's a symptom of TDS to read everything that is not explicitly critical of Trump as defending him.

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I thought Pappa Kush was put in prison for illegal campaign contribution, tax evasion, and witness tampering, or something.... He's allowed to continue doing the same shit after he gets out?

 No wonder Kush Jr. can't get a security clearance....

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1 hour ago, Sol Rosenberg said:

Damn right you are. That’s why you are peddling this bullshit after the National Security Adviser has copped a plea, and the campaign chief is facing life in prison. You like whataboutism. How many indictments and guilty pleas were there in the Obama years?  

 

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12 minutes ago, Sean said:

 

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Didn't she steal the White house silver service too?

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Jesus Christ...why do you have to go there?

Dog is a disgusting human being, that has no morals nor concern for the path our country is taking.

But holy shit, leave that out of it.

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3 minutes ago, Mike G said:

Jesus Christ...why do you have to go there?

Dog is a disgusting human being, that has no morals nor concern for the path our country is taking.

But holy shit, leave that out of it.

Perhaps it could have been worded differently,  but fuck him.

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17 minutes ago, Mike G said:

Jesus Christ...why do you have to go there?

Dog is a disgusting human being, that has no morals nor concern for the path our country is taking.

But holy shit, leave that out of it.

You missed the Roy Moore 3rd Rail thread did you?

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1 hour ago, ease the sheet said:

Perhaps it could have been worded differently,  butt fuck him.

I'll leave that to you....

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2 hours ago, Mike G said:

The "NDA" thing again.  She's not bound by that, correct?  She works for us, not him?

That's probably why she bailed. Looking for a posting in Antarctica currently, but there's not a lot of openings for ex-models who steam pants while occupied.

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9 hours ago, Mike G said:

The "NDA" thing again.  She's not bound by that, correct?  She works for us, not him?

NDA doesn’t bind her once he took office. That doesn’t mean that his lawyers won’t make the argument that it does, to force her to pay legal fees. That’s how rich folks rewrite the rules against po folks. 

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31 minutes ago, ease the sheet said:

If she's  smart, shouldn't  she be hitting the Donald  up for hush money?

If Stormy Daniels got 130k for one night, that should be multiplied by how many days Hope worked for him!

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3 minutes ago, billy backstay said:

If Stormy Daniels got 130k for one night, that should be multiplied by how many days Hope worked for him!

I think the Stormy thing was more than a one-nighter. She’s pretty talented. 

Bless his horny little heart. 

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14 hours ago, Mike G said:

The "NDA" thing again.  She's not bound by that, correct?  She works for us, not him?

Subpoena Trumps all, I think.  Might be wrong on that though. 

 If she was smart she'll make a copy so she will have something to deal with the book companies with after Mueller takes the original. Trump sues for NDA? Makes her and the book co's day, I reckon. Maybe a movie maker's too. 

  

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1 hour ago, Mark K said:

Subpoena Trumps all, I think.  Might be wrong on that though. 

 If she was smart she'll make a copy so she will have something to deal with the book companies with after Mueller takes the original. Trump sues for NDA? Makes her and the book co's day, I reckon. Maybe a movie maker's too. 

  

All she really has to do is write it as fiction (While based on a true story, all persons and places depicted in this novel are creations of the author, and any similarity to actual persons and places is purely coincidental.)

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5 hours ago, Mark K said:

Subpoena Trumps all, I think.  Might be wrong on that though. 

 If she was smart she'll make a copy so she will have something to deal with the book companies with after Mueller takes the original. Trump sues for NDA? Makes her and the book co's day, I reckon. Maybe a movie maker's too. 

  

I’d bet that if we are just finding out about it, Mueller’s team had it some time ago. He’s been a few steps ahead of the Trumpettes at every turn. 

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4 hours ago, Mrleft8 said:

All she really has to do is write it as fiction (While based on a true story, all persons and places depicted in this novel are creations of the author, and any similarity to actual persons and places is purely coincidental.)

 Maybe, but if I were publishing books I would not look to anyone from the Trump administration for believable fiction. 

 

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2 hours ago, Mark K said:

 Maybe, but if I were publishing books I would not look to anyone from the Trump administration for believable fiction. 

 

Are the Narnia Chronicles believable to a 12 year old?

Need I say more?

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On 03/03/2018 at 7:36 AM, Dog said:

News now is that Mueller is considering indicting the Russian hackers, defendants for whom there is no hope in hell of ever getting into a court room. We're down to hackers and hookers a few chicken shit convictions and 48 pages of drips. Nothing at all related to the election or the pretext for the investigation.

It's starting to look like a bust guys.

It's funny how after every single indictment, you spin a new story about how there cannot possible be more and that Mueller has failed in his task. I mean, you'd think you'd stop punching yourself in the dick after the third or fourth time, but you just keep whaling on your scrotum like you think it deserves to be punished. You need some serious help man, it's well into the realms of certifiable behaviour at this point.

 

On 03/03/2018 at 10:05 AM, Dog said:

For the principled Trump is irrelevant.

Yes, but as you continue jumping in to defend Trump over and over and over again, by you're own logic - you lack principles. :lol: 

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Follow the money.......

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/03/us/politics/george-nader-mueller-investigation-united-arab-emirates.html

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Mueller’s Focus on Adviser to U.A.E. Indicates Broader Inquiry

WASHINGTON — George Nader, a Lebanese-American businessman, has hovered on the fringes of international diplomacy for three decades. He was a back-channel negotiator with Syria during the Clinton administration, reinvented himself as an adviser to the de facto ruler of the United Arab Emirates, and last year was a frequent visitor to President Trump’s White House.

Mr. Nader is now a focus of the investigation by Robert S. Mueller III, the special counsel. In recent weeks, Mr. Mueller’s investigators have questioned Mr. Nader and have pressed witnesses for information about any possible attempts by the Emiratis to buy political influence by directing money to support Mr. Trump during the presidential campaign, according to people with knowledge of the discussions.

The investigators have also asked about Mr. Nader’s role in White House policymaking, those people said, suggesting that the special counsel investigation has broadened beyond Russian election meddling to include Emirati influence on the Trump administration. The focus on Mr. Nader could also prompt an examination of how money from multiple countries has flowed through and influenced Washington during the Trump era.

How much this line of inquiry is connected to Mr. Mueller’s original task of investigating contacts between Mr. Trump’s campaign and Russia is unclear. The examination of the U.A.E. comes amid a flurry of recent activity by Mr. Mueller.

 

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While the White house may be in a flurry to get this all over with.... Mueller is just taking his time, walkin' down roads, kickin' cans, pickin' up bits here and there.... He's got a certain distance to go, and he knows that, but he has a long time to get there, and there's an awful lot of interesting, talkative people you meet on the way.....

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5 minutes ago, Mrleft8 said:

While the White house may be in a flurry to get this all over with.... Mueller is just taking his time, walkin' down roads, kickin' cans, pickin' up bits here and there.... He's got a certain distance to go, and he knows that, but he has a long time to get there, and there's an awful lot of interesting, talkative people you meet on the way.....

I'm sure Donald can hear the baying of the hounds in the distance, coming closer.

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4 minutes ago, bhyde said:

Quick question. When Trump goes to jail does he still get Secret Service protection? That might come in handy.

Yes, but he still has to pay for his own lube.

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8 hours ago, Sean said:

 

Follow the money.......

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/03/us/politics/george-nader-mueller-investigation-united-arab-emirates.html

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Mueller’s Focus on Adviser to U.A.E. Indicates Broader Inquiry

...        ...         ...        ...        ...

Mr. Nader is now a focus of the investigation by Robert S. Mueller III ...         ...        ...        ...     The examination of the U.A.E. comes amid a flurry of recent activity by Mr. Mueller.

 

 

I'd be willing to bet a lot that Mueller doesn't do "flurries." He's been pretty busy all along.

-DSK

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