33jesus 50 Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 Boat is out. Mast is up. 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RMac 306 Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 Have been very critical of the ownership of this team, but am so glad for the team members that they are going to get another shot. Having a campaign end on such a hair trigger move that led to catastrophe would be gutting. Go get em! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stingray~ 2,262 Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 6 minutes ago, 33jesus said: Mast is up. So the direction is good? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dullers 467 Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 Good luck AM from a limey. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SCARECROW 734 Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 7 minutes ago, RMac said: Have been very critical of the ownership of this team, but am so glad for the team members that they are going to get another shot. Having a campaign end on such a hair trigger move that led to catastrophe would be gutting. Go get em! I don't know, if they go down without winning a race despite getting the boat back on the water, there will be a few secretly wishing they hadn't made it so it could be seen to be their fault... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jaysper 1,264 Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 22 minutes ago, sosoomii said: I hate to talk COVID on a sailing site, but in the UK in the first week of January there were 18,000 deaths. Usually there are about 12,000. Those extra 6,000 deaths in a single week are nearly all attributable to COVID, not boredom. Cancer deaths will inevitably rise at some point due to missed appointments but that time bomb hasn’t struck yet Ugh! I'm going to regret responding I'm sure but there needs to be a more informed opinion here. In the US, a 1% increase in unemployment results in an extra 40,000 deaths. This study has likewise been performed with similar results in Canada, UK, Australia, NZ etc. For the US this will easily mean another 400,000 dead. You can argue about the merit of lockdown but you need to do so with some more information than you currently seem to have. 5 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sisu3360 210 Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 25 minutes ago, sosoomii said: I hate to talk COVID on a sailing site Take it to CA 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TodB 9 Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 My two cents on the choice of boat, and I like fast boats as much as the next guy. Think about the difference between car racing and pretty much any team sport - any version of football for example. In car racing you watch an object competing with other objects. The only team aspect is the pit stop. In any team sport you watch all the team members doing choreographed things together so the team can win. In the olden days AC races looked a lot more like a team sport - spinnaker sets, douses, gybes, tacks - all that stuff is choreographed like a play in American football. There is just a lot of stuff going on. I love the speed of the boats, but watching eight guys pump up hydro fluid while one guy drives is kind of boring. Personally I'd eliminate the use of stored power and put them in 100 foot maxis with symmetrical spinnakers. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
arr4ws 89 Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 45 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
minimumfuss 326 Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 8 minutes ago, jaysper said: Ugh! I'm going to regret responding I'm sure but there needs to be a more informed opinion here. In the US, a 1% increase in unemployment results in an extra 40,000 deaths. This study has likewise been performed with similar results in Canada, UK, Australia, NZ etc. For the US this will easily mean another 400,000 dead. Sigh. 2 words. Health system 2 more words. Lockdown = AC (happening) Wonder if they have been measured already while in the shed to have a full day out Quote Link to post Share on other sites
minimumfuss 326 Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 2 minutes ago, arr4ws said: Magic. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
strider470 2,142 Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 7 minutes ago, arr4ws said: I love that! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sisu3360 210 Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 9 minutes ago, TodB said: In the olden days AC races looked a lot more like a team sport - spinnaker sets, douses, gybes, tacks - all that stuff is choreographed like a play in American football. There is just a lot of stuff going on. I love the speed of the boats, but watching eight guys pump up hydro fluid while one guy drives is kind of boring. I agree, the team aspect is huge part of my personal enjoyment of sailing, and why I've gravitated toward keelboats and scows instead of small dinghies. There's still a huge team component to these boats (even the grinders), but it's not very visible. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rennmaus 3,060 Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 10 minutes ago, arr4ws said: Class act. And funny. And moving. 9 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
winchfodder 332 Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 No live feed. Amazing Quote Link to post Share on other sites
asw456 22 Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 9 minutes ago, arr4ws said: That’s fantastic. I hope they’re proud of what they’ve achieved to get to this point, seems like a pretty positive atmosphere from the outside 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
he b gb 262 Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 6 hours ago, dent said: I would love it if they painted a big band-aide on it LOL Wow! You are psychic. Not just one but two! 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
basketcase 794 Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 Epic. Congratulations. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
**ONTOIT** 109 Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 26 minutes ago, arr4ws said: brilliant! very fitting! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WakaNZ 180 Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 25 minutes ago, arr4ws said: Class, well done! With the UK flag behind it, the Union jack on our flag needs to go, should have gone #notstartingflagdebate 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sledracr 907 Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 love it! 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nutta 454 Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 1 hour ago, Stingray~ said: So the direction is good? Yes, the mast is still above water even. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The_Alchemist 1,425 Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 11 hours ago, dullers said: Average age of death from covid in the UK is 82. Google is your friend. https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m000j50w/question-time-2020-14052020 Go to Luke Johnston. As of may 2020 350 people below 60 had died. We lose 400 people a year to drowning. I dont know the numbers for below 60 now as information and facts are hard to come by. In 1969 we had a mayor flu outbreak that killed thousands more than is normal. If you want to hide away from life dont let me stop you but i am not interested in loosing my freedom to eak out a few more years on this earth. “Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves.” — William Pitt the Younger — Speech in the House of Commons (18 November, 1783). As long as you promise to go curl up in your basement and die if you get sick and not be a burden on the healthcare system. You can't claim to be a tough guy if you need to keep running back crying for help from the same people your ridicule. Better yet, cut the taxpayer costs by volunteering to carry bodybags out of the nearest hospital. Come on, man up. 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rushman 264 Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 52 minutes ago, arr4ws said: Love it! Sticker for the photo op or permanent? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
arr4ws 89 Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 2 minutes ago, Rushman said: Love it! Sticker for the photo op or permanent? Hope its permanent. At least until they win the prada cup 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mako23 632 Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 1 hour ago, arr4ws said: The Yankee Doodles want to go back to the old lead mines of yesteryear. Which is totally their right if they win. For this reason I hope they don’t win. However it’s hard to hate these guys. Their behaviour on and off the course is being good. T.H on the media comes across likeable and the painted bandage was a classy response. 9 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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mako23 632 Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 21 minutes ago, The_Alchemist said: As long as you promise to go curl up in your basement and die if you get sick and not be a burden on the healthcare system. You can't claim to be a tough guy if you need to keep running back crying for help from the same people your ridicule. Better yet, cut the taxpayer costs by volunteering to carry bodybags out of the nearest hospital. Come on, man up. Even America the Bastion of capitalism is providing care for their COVID patients and providing financial support to those who have lost their jobs. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tornado-Cat 1,082 Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 YES !!! 11 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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Sea Breeze 74 711 Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
crashtack 334 Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 new foils? tips look unique Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WakaNZ 180 Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 1 minute ago, Barnyb said: Removed the mast float....Feeling confident! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sea Breeze 74 711 Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 A few more from AM FB page 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wandering Geo 66 Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 Spat on port foil 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Horn Rock 1,712 Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 Interesting outline where the panel blew out.... 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dullers 467 Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 39 minutes ago, The_Alchemist said: As long as you promise to go curl up in your basement and die if you get sick and not be a burden on the healthcare system. You can't claim to be a tough guy if you need to keep running back crying for help from the same people your ridicule. Better yet, cut the taxpayer costs by volunteering to carry bodybags out of the nearest hospital. Come on, man up. I pay my taxes. We have health care even for people with different views. Who was I ridiculing? I am all ears. I disagree on the lock down. You don't but I wish you no harm either way. I am always amazed you would wish others harm even if you disagree. PS you have the nicest looking boat. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Piet56 202 Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 6 minutes ago, Horn Rock said: Interesting outline where the panel blew out.... Now that is cool! 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Board skiff 620 Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 I heard that the capsize was deliberate to get more time to add upgrades once it became clear they weren’t going to get the bye straight to the finals. 1 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nutta 454 Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 Yes, I'm pretty sure nearly sending her to the bottom was right on script... 8) 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chapter Four 140 Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 21 minutes ago, Sea Breeze 74 said: A few more from AM FB page PATRIOT 2.0 9 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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Monkey 2,365 Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 2 hours ago, arr4ws said: I love that! A sense of humor combined with a sincere thank you. It makes me even happier to be an AM fan! edit: Just to clarify, after years of Oracle, it’s awesome to have a likable team again! 12 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dave Clark 780 Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 13 minutes ago, Barnyb said: [Insert two minutes of uncontrolled cackling] Pause to listen to the national pump-up anthem https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uPoDNEn3I0 [Insert two more minutes of uncontrolled cackling] Everybody who got bent out of shape about the hulls skin failing can go eat a square foot of that same laminate. ps. -unrelated- Seems to me that 90% of the dean-bashing comes from kiwis. I don't think anyone did anything wrong and this regatta is very obviously not over. If anything, it's now an even game and the brits have thankfully found their modes. LETS GO! DRC 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TodB 9 Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 Lifelines on the foredeck? Don’t think I’ve seen them before. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sisu3360 210 Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 1 minute ago, TodB said: Lifelines on the foredeck? Don’t think I’ve seen them before. Might be for worker safety, removed for racing. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
WakaNZ 180 Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 2 minutes ago, Sisu3360 said: Might be for worker safety, removed for racing. H&S Requirement for all teams, part of the class rule and NZ law. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kate short for Bob 438 Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 6 minutes ago, TodB said: Lifelines on the foredeck? Don’t think I’ve seen them before. Geez we have covered this ad infinitum many times over the previous months. 2 minutes ago, WakaNZ said: H&S Requirement for all teams, part of the class rule and NZ law. Correct and only fitted when the boat is out of the water and either on a stand or under crane. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Barnyb 637 Posted January 26, 2021 Author Share Posted January 26, 2021 I wonder if they have secured the battery? 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Monkey 2,365 Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 I’m loving the new spads on the foil arms. I can just imagine the conversation.... GD: We’ll offer whatever help you need from our builders to get back out there. TH: Cool. Have ‘em knock out a set of the same foil arm fairings you guys are running. GD: That’s not what I meant. TH: Thanks buddy! 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ex-yachtie 1,622 Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 There mightn’t be a lot of testing going on today! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mako23 632 Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 This damage to American Magic might be psychological. Dean Barker might be a little gun shy after the last incident. He needs to still trust the boat and race it to the maximum. Easy to say but not so easy to do. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Monkey 2,365 Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 1 minute ago, mako23 said: This damage to American Magic might be psychological. Dean Barker might be a little gun shy after the last incident. He needs to still trust the boat and race it to the maximum. Easy to say but not so easy to do. You don’t race much, do you? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Daniel Holman 133 Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 Just now, mako23 said: This damage to American Magic might be psychological. Dean Barker might be a little gun shy after the last incident. He needs to still trust the boat and race it to the maximum. Easy to say but not so easy to do. Last incident? I'd have thought he might be a bit gun shy after the last decade or so of his America's cup career. Sorry low blow I think he is a decent guy and top sailor - its been a sterling effort to get back on the water but I'm rooting for Goody to take the helm. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Monkey 2,365 Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 1 minute ago, Daniel Holman said: Last incident? I'd have thought he might be a bit gun shy after the last decade or so of his America's cup career. Sorry low blow I think he is a decent guy and top sailor - its been a sterling effort to get back on the water but I'm rooting for Goody to take the helm. Some of you Kiwis are heartless cunts. The guy was given inferior boats, yet turned in respectable results. What else can you ask for? 8 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pusslicker 663 Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 4 hours ago, dullers said: Are you by chance having a good virtue signalling fetish? Just marveling at your victimhood. Everything is a threat to you assholes. Even trying to be nice. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rh3000 1,883 Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 2 hours ago, arr4ws said: I wonder if they will keep that on for the racing :-D Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Daniel Holman 133 Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 23 minutes ago, Monkey said: Some of you Kiwis are heartless cunts. The guy was given inferior boats, yet turned in respectable results. What else can you ask for? I'm a british heartless c£$t hence my nationalistic self interest - but agree he gets a lot of underserved shit, and carries himself well despite it. Hats off to the guy for coming back after 2013, many wouldn't. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dullers 467 Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 7 minutes ago, pusslicker said: Just marveling at your victimhood. Everything is a threat to you assholes. Even trying to be nice. If you could quote your niceness I will partake of some. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Monkey 2,365 Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 6 minutes ago, pusslicker said: Just marveling at your victimhood. Everything is a threat to you assholes. Even trying to be nice. He’s just a little cranky because the U.S., Australia, New Zealand, and the Swiss aren’t nice enough to share the Cup with his silly little island. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
danstanford 130 Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 3 minutes ago, rh3000 said: I wonder if they will keep that on for the racing :-D On a broadcast with Ken Read and Shirley Robertson just now they said the band-aids and the gloves will come off for racing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hasmat 39 Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 49 minutes ago, Sisu3360 said: Might be for worker safety, removed for racing. NZ safety regs Quote Link to post Share on other sites
33jesus 50 Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 3 minutes ago, danstanford said: On a broadcast with Ken Read and Shirley Robertson just now they said the band-aids and the gloves will come off for racing. Damn where is this broadcasted? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LCS Carbon 176 Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 1 minute ago, 33jesus said: Damn where is this broadcasted? yeah??? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Monkey 2,365 Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 3 minutes ago, danstanford said: On a broadcast with Ken Read and Shirley Robertson just now they said the band-aids and the gloves will come off for racing. That’s a bummer. It doesn’t harm their sponsors in any way, and only makes them more friendly to every foreign fan. I hope they decide to keep it. I mostly want them to keep it because us American fans appreciated all the help in stopping our boat from sinking!!!! 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nutta 454 Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 25 minutes ago, mako23 said: This damage to American Magic might be psychological. Dean Barker might be a little gun shy after the last incident. He needs to still trust the boat and race it to the maximum. Easy to say but not so easy to do. Give him a pint and a dodgy petrol station pie, and send him on out. He'll be fine... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
33jesus 50 Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 (edited) I wish I could somehow link to Sailor Girls (Nic) Instagram story. The dock out for AM was a giant celebration. Really great to see. edit: maybe here: https://instagram.com/stories/sailorgirlhq/2495503817263013385?utm_source=ig_story_item_share&igshid=gsjvhd54tdrm Edited January 27, 2021 by 33jesus IG link 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
us7070 308 Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 20 minutes ago, Monkey said: That’s a bummer. It doesn’t harm their sponsors in any way, and only makes them more friendly to every foreign fan. I hope they decide to keep it. I mostly want them to keep it because us American fans appreciated all the help in stopping our boat from sinking!!!! probably vinyl stickers if they don't take them off, they will come off anyway Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Varan 2,134 Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 50 minutes ago, Ex-yachtie said: There mightn’t be a lot of testing going on today! I wouldn't be too sure about that... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wandering Geo 66 Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 1 hour ago, Monkey said: I’m loving the new spads on the foil arms. I can just imagine the conversation.... GD: We’ll offer whatever help you need from our builders to get back out there. TH: Cool. Have ‘em knock out a set of the same foil arm fairings you guys are running. GD: That’s not what I meant. TH: Thanks buddy! Look slike they may have only had time to knock out one :-) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The_Alchemist 1,425 Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 2 hours ago, Barnyb said: No orange buoy on the top of the mast, they must expect to stay afloat..... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The_Alchemist 1,425 Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 2 hours ago, dullers said: I pay my taxes. We have health care even for people with different views. Who was I ridiculing? I am all ears. I disagree on the lock down. You don't but I wish you no harm either way. I am always amazed you would wish others harm even if you disagree. PS you have the nicest looking boat. thanks, it is a nice looking boat. I was not wishing you harm, just pointed out that if you take greater risks than you need to be responsible for the outcome and not expect those that follow the rules to be responsible for your actions. He in the US we still have people thinking Covid is fake while they are in the hospital taking their dying breath. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Monkey 2,365 Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 18 minutes ago, Wandering Geo said: Look slike they may have only had time to knock out one :-) Hey, that’s at least halfway! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
weta27 5,035 Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 First foil, towed up in very little breeze Quote Link to post Share on other sites
weta27 5,035 Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 TR struggling to find breeze off the Bays but LR appear to have some down the back paddock Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MrBump 78 Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 So we can assume that the 15:00hrs deadline for measurement certificate must have been done this morning then? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
weta27 5,035 Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 Patriot is parked up near the Rangi light waiting for wind Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Varan 2,134 Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 Just now, weta27 said: Patriot is parked up near the Rangi light waiting for wind Is the mast pointing up? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
weta27 5,035 Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 Yes, all ship-shape so far. They had to put the main up twice otherwise no obvious problems Quote Link to post Share on other sites
weta27 5,035 Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 Band-aids are still in place so must be doing the job 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sea Breeze 74 711 Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 7 minutes ago, weta27 said: Yes, all ship-shape so far. They had to put the main up twice otherwise no obvious problems Thanks for the updates Weta Quote Link to post Share on other sites
zillafreak 132 Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 I think I see a patch. Or maybe its just a reflection.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sailer99 62 Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 1 minute ago, zillafreak said: I think I see a patch. Or maybe its just a reflection.. It's the deflection from the batteries. I'm not certified to add the yellow lines that prove that though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stingray~ 2,262 Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 11 minutes ago, Varan said: Is the mast pointing up? Yes, sounds like they are now in the right direction again, should help some! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stingray~ 2,262 Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 6 minutes ago, zillafreak said: I think I see a patch. Or maybe its just a reflection.. The reflections in that photo actually are pretty stunning, helluva shot. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
weta27 5,035 Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 TR now back up foiling near Browns Island, Patriot looks to be having another go Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jaysper 1,264 Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 1 minute ago, Stingray~ said: The reflections in that photo actually are pretty stunning, helluva shot. You're right, absolutely gorgeous! The foil and arm actually looks like its painted on at first glance. Good on AM for showing appreciation in such an obvious and humorous fashion. Shows great character. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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