Editor 703 Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 Warning: The following content is not suitable for anyone under 50 years old. While motoring the Anarchy III the other day (yes, sailing will commence. just waiting for sails...) we spied this Columbia at Anchor in Hobo Harbor. Clearly it is a Tripp-designed Columbia 40, right? Link to post Share on other sites
fastyacht 1,601 Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 No. Smaller tha n40 methinks. Link to post Share on other sites
Flick 6 Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 Columbia 39 "Constellation"? A design of less-than-certain parentage, apparently. http://sailboatdata.com/viewrecord.asp?class_id=1981 Link to post Share on other sites
boomer 809 Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 Columbia Constellation - two Columbias have direct linage to the Charley Morgan designed Columbia 40 - the Columbia Constellation and the Columbia 38. My wife and I lived aboard a Columbia 38 back in '76 &'77. Columbia 40 Columbia Constellation Columbia 38 Link to post Share on other sites
Editor 703 Posted October 5, 2017 Author Share Posted October 5, 2017 i was sure it was a 40, but when i looked up columbia 40 before i posted this, it was not what i thought! and that lead me to the constellation. that has to be the morgan designed 40 hull, right? Link to post Share on other sites
boomer 809 Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 Yes that's correct - with a deeper keel with less area and spade rudder, rather than a keel-hung rudder of the Columbia 40. Sailboat data is wrong on the Constellation's and 38's LWL which is about 27' 6". Deeper modified keel Columbia 40 Sailboat Data Columbia Constellation Columbia 38 Sailboat Data Link to post Share on other sites
Editor 703 Posted October 5, 2017 Author Share Posted October 5, 2017 it sure is a cool looking thing! anybody know how many they built? any interior pics? Link to post Share on other sites
boomer 809 Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 That Columbia 50 house turned a lot of heads back in the day, but on the Columbia 50 - it looks proportionately to large on the Constellation. From a distance or in pictures, the Constellation looks smaller and close up one realizes the size. Seven of the Columbia Constellations were built and 39 of the Columbia 38s were built. I would have to go through my old albums and slides to see if I have any pics that are presentable. Don't recall taking any interior pics. Link to post Share on other sites
per4m 0 Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 it's a beauty. coming from someone under 50 (ok not much under) Link to post Share on other sites
dave-j 16 Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 I had an opportunity to buy one a few years ago from a recently widowed woman whose husband had maintained it perfectly, including a brand new rig and diesel. Was very short money and I have regretted passing on it ever since. Link to post Share on other sites
ColinR 0 Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 My guess is S&S IW-31, with slightly enlarged windows. http://sailboatdata.com/viewrecord.asp?class_id=5505 I have just replaced the old windows on my S&S (Chris Craft) Comanche 42 and when you throw the old frames away, the windows end up being bigger. Link to post Share on other sites
hip2b2 0 Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 Almost new Columbia 50 refurbished by Colombia Yachts for sale if anyone interested - http://www.columbiayachts.com/custom-projects/columbia-50/ Link to post Share on other sites
kacobeelaerts 0 Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 MEDALIST 10M DESIGNED BY BILL TRIP Link to post Share on other sites
Jaramaz 40 Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 3 hours ago, ColinR said: My guess is S&S IW-31, with slightly enlarged windows. http://sailboatdata.com/viewrecord.asp?class_id=5505 I have just replaced the old windows on my S&S (Chris Craft) Comanche 42 and when you throw the old frames away, the windows end up being bigger. nope, IW-31 doesn't look like that. This one looks larger, but not 40. //J Link to post Share on other sites
LionessRacing 572 Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 Sure looks like a Tripp Sheerline, and a Columbia house. All that's missing is the mizzen Link to post Share on other sites
Crash 620 Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 Are the spreaders on that thing really angled forwards? Drawings and pics on Constellation link above show them inline. Ed's pic makes them look angled forward.. Link to post Share on other sites
Editor 703 Posted October 5, 2017 Author Share Posted October 5, 2017 funny, i saw that too. i think they might be on backwards??? Link to post Share on other sites
Flick 6 Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 I'm thinking inline. The photographer's position looks to me to be abeam, but directly opposite the aft end of the cabin. Hence, he's looking slightly forward toward the mast (and bow pulpit) accounting for the appearance of a forward-angled spreader. Link to post Share on other sites
theramblers 0 Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 She is really sexy <3 <3 Link to post Share on other sites
stickboy 3 Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 Spreaders look square to me, you can only see the starboard one, what appears to be port spreader is steaming/foredeck light. Link to post Share on other sites
Crash 620 Posted October 5, 2017 Share Posted October 5, 2017 Thanks stickboy...it was the steaming light that fooled me, in conjunction with what looks like some forward sweep to the outer portion of the trailing edge of the spreader Link to post Share on other sites
Editor 703 Posted October 5, 2017 Author Share Posted October 5, 2017 yep, me too. anybody been down below one of these things? Link to post Share on other sites
Tranquilo 16 Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 Tripp and Morgan had much in common. The Tripp Columbia 43, hull #1 had the Columbia 50 deck on it with that same cabin style. I own hull #4 for the last 40 years. Lots of info on the 43 here:http://hagothlog.blogspot.com/2012/07/columbia-43-little-history.html Tripp did some interesting work with Dolf Le Comte back in the days like the ALC 35 MK 2, a lovely boat in my opinion. http://sailboatdata.com/viewrecord.asp?class_id=1647 They build them in the Netherlands and I believe that's where Koopmans got his style from. Tripp's list of designs view_designer.asp Link to post Share on other sites
dave-j 16 Posted October 10, 2017 Share Posted October 10, 2017 Answering has anybody been below. Yep, as said, almost bought one. It is a "small" 39 compared with modern hull designs. Short waterline and narrow. Except for the doghouse has very low headroom (at least for me, I'm 6'4"). This one was meticulous and finished in traditional white with dark wood trim and navy blue cushions with white piping. Was really nice! The doghouse was huge for this size of a boat and was almost like a greenhouse. Could sleep four, five in a pinch if friendly. I was like adding a big doghouse to a Hinckley Pilot 35. Link to post Share on other sites
Editor 703 Posted October 11, 2017 Author Share Posted October 11, 2017 a nice one would be such a cool classic to own....perhaps one day! Link to post Share on other sites
SloopJonB 8,601 Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 They only built 1/2 dozen and I know of one in Mexico that was a zombie a few years back so.....good luck. I'd love one too - way better looking than my old C-43. Link to post Share on other sites
bareboater 0 Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 I can add a bit to this, since I raced aboard a Columbia 40 named Carib in the San Diego-Acapulco Race back in the 60s. It was a descendant of Charley Morgan's Paper Tiger, which swept the 60-61 SORC. Columbia modified the 40 with a spade rudder but it was still an "interesting" boat to sail downwind in a breeze. I also sailed a Constellation like the one in the photo a few years later, also based on the Columbia 40 hull, but with a Columbia 50 deck slapped on it. Very strange, because the non-slip pattern sort of slid off at the gunwales where they trimmed the deck to fit. Also a neat boat, big airy doghouse, and I always thought it was pretty cool looking, altho not as pretty as the Columbia 50. But it was short on the waterline and, again, with a big masthead chute, was a real handful off the wind. You almost needed a hotrod "brodie" knob on the wheel so you could spin it fast. But a great boat at Catalina with all that deck space. Link to post Share on other sites
SloopJonB 8,601 Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 That's interesting Boater - I always assumed they had simply used the 50's doghouse when they built the deck plug, not that they actually cut down a 50's deck to fit. Did it have standing headroom forward or did you have to crouch? Link to post Share on other sites
dave-j 16 Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 Not standing headroom forward if you were over 5'5" Link to post Share on other sites
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