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5 minutes ago, A guy in the Chesapeake said:

I think that you're correct in this, but, I'd like to add that the NRA isn't the only group advocating extreme positions, and that I don't believe that the fringes will contribute much if anything to any viable solution. 

I agree, but we built this model, and now we need to figure out how to draw it down without violating individual rights. Once we are on an even keel, people will be more receptive to discussion. We will still have fringes, but once they lose their ability to control conversations, they might be inclined to go along with solutions, or not. We need to follow this process because otherwise, people will feel betrayed and reject anything accomplished.

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And keep the guns locked up or in your possession.  Kids have friends who come over.

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Republican activist and former Colorado candidate accused of flashing revolver at U.S. marshal

Republican activist and former Colorado candidate accused of flashing revolver at U.S. marshal 
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Kanda Calef, a former Republican candidate, political activist and a hard-line gun rights supporter, faces a felony menacing charge after allegedly brandishing a pistol at a U.S. marshal in Interstate 25’s Gap construction zone. 

Calef, now free on $2,500 bail, is due in Douglas County’s 18th Judicial District on Wednesday, where she is expected to enter a plea to the charge. 

Colorado troopers arrested Calef April 10 after the marshal, who was off duty at the time, reported that a woman in a van “had flashed a handgun at him,” says a probable cause affidavit filed in the 18th Judicial District. 

Calef is a prominent advocate for limited government, conservative funding approaches and Second Amendment rights. She failed to win the Republican nomination last year for Colorado’s House District 14, and she lost a 2015 bid for the Colorado Springs City Council to incumbent Larry Bagley. 


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3 hours ago, badlatitude said:

Kanda Calef, a former Republican candidate, political activist and a hard-line gun rights supporter, faces a felony menacing charge after allegedly brandishing a pistol at a U.S. marshal in Interstate 25’s Gap construction zone. 

 Calef, now free on $2,500 bail, is due in Douglas County’s 18th Judicial District on Wednesday, where she is expected to enter a plea to the charge. 

Colorado Springs? I'll bet that on Sunday she's in church praising Jesus and cursing everyone she suspects something of 

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13 hours ago, badlatitude said:

I'm not contributing to anything radical, but I most definitely want movement. Gun change will not happen overnight, and it shouldn't. It should be thoughtful and realistic, I believe there is room for both, but you have had the NRA driving it to extremes, and that is the problem with our conversation.

 

13 hours ago, badlatitude said:

I agree, but we built this model, and now we need to figure out how to draw it down without violating individual rights. Once we are on an even keel, people will be more receptive to discussion. We will still have fringes, but once they lose their ability to control conversations, they might be inclined to go along with solutions, or not. We need to follow this process because otherwise, people will feel betrayed and reject anything accomplished.

On 4/7/2018 at 9:08 PM, badlatitude said:

There is nothing I can do now but support a full Second Amendment extermination, which I will do with huge endowments. Money talks.

So are you out$pending the NRA routinely like Bloomberg or not? No matter, I suppose, since Big $penders are only bad on some issues around here.

I think banning a tool because it wasn't around when the Constitution was written is pretty extreme and agree with Caetano's Body, Caetano's Choice to defend herself with a non-lethal tool if that is what she needs to do.

Speaking of getting a unanimous thumping from the Supreme Court on this issue, I suspect that's going to happen again this fall when the grabby extremists from NYC get their day in court.

I'd be receptive to discussion of whether pricing poor people out of their rights is OK, if anyone other than me wanted to discuss it.

7 hours ago, badlatitude said:

Republican activist and former Colorado candidate accused of flashing revolver at U.S. marshal 

Also receptive to discussion on whether a revolver is an "assault weapon" that needs banning. Whenever I ask that question about my wife's squirrel shooter or this plinker, the response seems to be, "if it's lethal, it needs banning."

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OK, well, revolvers can be pretty lethal, even in the censored caliber.

 

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6 hours ago, timber said:

Colorado Springs? I'll bet that on Sunday she's in church praising Jesus and cursing everyone she suspects something of 

Singing the praises right next to Michelle Malkin(she lives there too). If you don't remember her, she trashed and investigated an 11-year-old for making a commercial about SCHIP, and started a controversy about Muslims when the chef Rachel Ray wore a black and white scarf for a Dunkin Donuts commercial, Malkin said she was endorsing the Palestine Liberation Organization.

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2 hours ago, Importunate Tom said:

 

So are you out$pending the NRA routinely like Bloomberg or not? No matter, I suppose, since Big $penders are only bad on some issues around here.

I think banning a tool because it wasn't around when the Constitution was written is pretty extreme and agree with Caetano's Body, Caetano's Choice to defend herself with a non-lethal tool if that is what she needs to do.

Speaking of getting a unanimous thumping from the Supreme Court on this issue, I suspect that's going to happen again this fall when the grabby extremists from NYC get their day in court.

I'd be receptive to discussion of whether pricing poor people out of their rights is OK, if anyone other than me wanted to discuss it.

Also receptive to discussion on whether a revolver is an "assault weapon" that needs banning. Whenever I ask that question about my wife's squirrel shooter or this plinker, the response seems to be, "if it's lethal, it needs banning."

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OK, well, revolvers can be pretty lethal, even in the censored caliber.

 

It never ceases to amaze and tickle me how you react to posts that challenge your beliefs. I don't care about your outrage; I wish you would get new props. Also, many people myself included, will never be remotely close to Michael Bloomberg's position on the 400. The number of rentals I held at any one time was around 38,000 market rate units, small potatoes in this business.

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18 hours ago, Shootist Jeff said:

Oh, I want to be part of the solution.  That's why I am joining you in calling for the suspension of ALL of the BoRs until we get this violence thing under control.  Only suspending one of them isn't going to do jackshit and you know it, so I'm happy that you're finally on board for the big win in calling for the suspension of the rest.  

Amazing. I'm going to summarize Jeffraux's voice. The Jeffraux solution is germanating.

The right to moar gunz must hide behind the legitimacy of speech and voting...while Jeffie sorts out his own baseline, personal violence, at a lethal level.

YCMTSU.

 

Jeff wants to be part of the solution. He should inform himself of the basics

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Jeff Posted April 22  2017

there are few if any states where there are "few restrictions on obtaining or carrying a concealed weapon".

 

The facts?  In these eleven states, and one more, we allow individuals to carry concealed without possessing any permit at all.

Alaska, Arizona, Idaho, Kansas, Maine, Mississippi, Missouri, New Hampshire, Vermont, West Virginia, and Wyoming.

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10 hours ago, jocal505 said:

 Jeffie sorts out his own baseline, personal violence, at a lethal level.

And yet you are the only person in here that admits to using a firearm to threaten someone. How many more years did you keep your AW for after it made you get violent?

10 hours ago, jocal505 said:

  In these eleven states, and one more, we allow individuals to carry concealed without possessing any permit at all.

Something that takes 5 seconds to look up, and you can't even get it right.

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A few more mass shootings. No fatalities and they don't seem convenient enough to get a thread here, but...

Mass Shooting In Texas

 

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Congressional District: 35
State Senate District: 26
State House District: 123

Police say the incident began shortly before midnight with a road rage incident, where drivers of a white pickup and a blue sedan traded insults at East Market Street and Tower of the Americas Way, which is a block away from the Henry B. Gonzalez Convention Center and in the shadow of the city's iconic Tower of the Americas.

A man in the pickup pulled a handgun and emptied it into the sedan.

 

It's unclear whether the handgun had a threaded barrel, making it a dreaded buttery ASSault weapon. But we can presume it did and TnP of DOING SOMETHING as if it's relevant.

 

Mass Shooting In Tennessee

 

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Congressional District: 9
State Senate District: 30
State House District: 98

Memphis police say at least five people were shot in Raleigh late Monday night.

The shooting happened just before midnight at the Huntington Hills Apartment complex near the corner of James Road and Jackson Avenue. Police say a second location at the intersection of Austin Peay Highway and Yale Road is tied to the shooting.

Four adults from the apartment complex were located at the Regional Medical Center while a fifth was located in the 3600 block of Austin Peay.

No one in the Huntington Hill apartment complex wanted to show their face because they’re scared but several spoke to WREG about what happened.

 

Gee, the stupid drug war again. No one in the Huntington Hill apartment complex wanted to show their face because snitches get stiches. Or shot.

But five is more than four so we must ignore the source of the violence and instead DO SOMETHING.

 

Mass Shooting In New Jersey

 

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Congressional District: 10
State Senate District: 29
State House District: 29

Police are investigating shootings at two separate locations in Newark Tuesday afternoon that left one person dead and six others wounded.

The gunfire broke out at about 4 p.m. in the downtown area.

Three people were shot in the vicinity of Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. Blvd. and Spruce Street.

One man was killed, while the two other victims, both women, are hospitalized in stable condition.

A short time later, four men were shot on South Orange Avenue. None of their injuries appear to be life-threatening, police say.

Witnesses in the area reported hearing 13-14 gunshots and saw people running for cover.

It is not yet clear whether the shootings are related.

But police were quick to assure residents they do not believe these were random shootings.

"There was a car at both locations, a vehicle fitting that description was found by the sheriff's department with an occupant," said Newark Public Safety Director Anthony Ambrose. "So right now that's being investigated. But this is not a random act where somebody drove down the street."

The Essex County Prosecutor's Office and Newark police responded to the scene, and the area was closed off for the investigation.

Police also say that the man who was killed had been shot about three weeks ago in Newark. There have been no arrests in that case.

 

The first shooting doesn't count because only three were shot, one fatally. The second one is the convenient shooting because four.

And it looks like the stupid drug war again to me. Getting shot twice in three weeks is extraordinarily bad luck or just the course of business in the violent black market for drugs. I think it's the latter. Again.

But no matter. Four is four so the math dictates the SOLution once again: DO SOMETHING.

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22 hours ago, badlatitude said:
On 6/18/2019 at 4:42 AM, Importunate Tom said:

 

So are you out$pending the NRA routinely like Bloomberg or not? No matter, I suppose, since Big $penders are only bad on some issues around here.

I think banning a tool because it wasn't around when the Constitution was written is pretty extreme and agree with Caetano's Body, Caetano's Choice to defend herself with a non-lethal tool if that is what she needs to do.

Speaking of getting a unanimous thumping from the Supreme Court on this issue, I suspect that's going to happen again this fall when the grabby extremists from NYC get their day in court.

I'd be receptive to discussion of whether pricing poor people out of their rights is OK, if anyone other than me wanted to discuss it.

Also receptive to discussion on whether a revolver is an "assault weapon" that needs banning. Whenever I ask that question about my wife's squirrel shooter or this plinker, the response seems to be, "if it's lethal, it needs banning."

SWVictoryFlower.jpg

OK, well, revolvers can be pretty lethal, even in the censored caliber.

 

It never ceases to amaze and tickle me how you react to posts that challenge your beliefs.

Comedy freeloader.

It would amaze and probably tickle me if you reacted at all to the issues I mentioned that challenge grabby beliefs.

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2 hours ago, Importunate Tom said:

Comedy freeloader.

It would amaze and probably tickle me if you reacted at all to the issues I mentioned that challenge grabby beliefs.

Doctor random recommends that you use 'grabbers' or 'grabby' in more posts.  It makes you look like a complete fuckwit.

I want more.

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43 minutes ago, random said:

Doctor random recommends that you use 'grabbers' or 'grabby' in more posts.  It makes you look like a complete fuckwit.

I want more.

The grabbers who are confiscating museum collections in your country can't be described any other way. Except maybe as fuckwits.

Now change the subject because you know that's indefensible BS again.

23 minutes ago, badlatitude said:

The list is far too long to sustain a normal conversation.

Three is too many? That makes it seem unlikely that you can keep track of 38,000 of anything.

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49 minutes ago, Importunate Tom said:

The grabbers who are confiscating museum collections in your country can't be described any other way. Except maybe as fuckwits.

Now change the subject because you know that's indefensible BS again.

Three is too many? That makes it seem unlikely that you can keep track of 38,000 of anything.

Lol, One of these days I’ll show you how to organize and manage.

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19 hours ago, badlatitude said:

Lol, One of these days I’ll show you how to organize and manage.

Nah, I can count to three. Maybe one at a time won't confuse you?

I'd be receptive to discussion of whether pricing poor people out of their rights is OK, if anyone other than me wanted to discuss it.

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9 hours ago, Importunate Tom said:

Nah, I can count to three. Maybe one at a time won't confuse you?

I'd be receptive to discussion of whether pricing poor people out of their rights is OK, if anyone other than me wanted to discuss it.

I'm sorry that you have a ceiling on your counting. With practice, I bet you can do much better.

You're receptive to many things as you stay interested in many situations. The majority of us are curious, just not in what you usually like to discuss.

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Mass Shooting In Pennsylvania

 

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Congressional District: 7
State Senate District: 16
State House District: 22

A joint statement by police and Lehigh County District Attorney Jim Martin said it is believed there was one person who was a target. Authorities also believe the incident could be connected to what was described as gang violence.


Police said late Thursday night that 20-year-old Angelo Luis Rivera was taken into custody in connection with the shooting.

Rivera will be charged with possession of a small amount of marijuana, possession of drug paraphernalia, criminal conspiracy to commit aggravated assault.

 

Gee, the stupid drug war again.

But ten is way more than four, more than twice the usual reason to ignore the root cause and instead DO SOMETHING unrelated.

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Children Killed or Injured in 2019

 

Incident Datesort ascending State City Or County Address # Killed # Injured Operations
June 20, 2019 South Carolina Greenville Dronfield Dr 1 0
June 20, 2019 New York Brooklyn Lincoln Pl and Schenectady Ave 0 2
June 19, 2019 Texas Mathis 800 block of W Rockport St 0 1
June 17, 2019 Arkansas Dardanelle South 3rd St 2 0
June 17, 2019 Wisconsin Kenosha 2000 block of 60th St 1 0
June 16, 2019 Tennessee Covington 1200 block of College St 0 1
June 15, 2019 Arkansas Pine Bluff S Main St and E 27th Ave 0 2
June 15, 2019 Florida Winter Park 7528 Park Promenade Dr 2 1
June 15, 2019 Texas Big Spring 2400 block of US-87 0 1
June 15, 2019 Iowa West Des Moines 935 65th St 4 0
June 13, 2019 Illinois Chicago 4900 block of N Kedzie Ave 0 3
June 13, 2019 Missouri Saint Louis N Grand Blvd and Lindell Blvd 0 1
June 12, 2019 Georgia Columbus 700 block of Andrea Dr 0 1
June 12, 2019 Mississippi Brookhaven 2457 Grant Rd 1 0
June 12, 2019 Georgia Gray N/A 1 0
June 10, 2019 South Carolina North Charleston 2800 block of Ranger Drive 1 0
June 10, 2019 Tennessee Maryville 419 Savannah Village Drive 2 0
June 10, 2019 Missouri Saint Louis 1500 block of 20th St 1 0
June 10, 2019 Virginia Roanoke 748 Westwood Blvd NW 0 1
June 9, 2019 Missouri Saint Louis 4600 block of Michigan Ave 1 1
June 9, 2019 Texas Channelview 15100 block of Brentwood Dr 1 0
June 9, 2019 Missouri Kansas City 3150 Gillham Rd 0 2
June 9, 2019 Idaho Montpelier US Hwy 30 1 0
June 8, 2019 Louisiana New Orleans S Dorgenois St and Fourth St 0 1
June 8, 2019 Illinois Rockford 1900 block of Grenshaw St 0 1
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June 20, 2019 New York Brooklyn Lincoln Pl and Schenectady Ave 0 2

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A gunman opened fire on a Brooklyn street Thursday evening, missing his intended target but shooting an 11-year-old boy and a 31-year-old man, police said.

So one of the two "children" was 31 years old. Not that there's anything dishonest about that.

He and the actual child sure look like more victims of the stupid drug war to me.

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4 minutes ago, Importunate Tom said:

So one of the two "children" was 31 years old. Not that there's anything dishonest about that.

He and the actual child sure look like more victims of the stupid drug war to me.

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June 13, 2019 Illinois Chicago 4900 block of N Kedzie Ave 0 3

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Three people, including a 2-year-old boy, were wounded in a drive-by shooting Thursday night in the Albany Park neighborhood.

Police said the boy, his mother and her uncle were sitting in a silver Jeep in an alley in the 4900 block of North Kedzie Avenue around 9 p.m., when a white Hyundai with tinted windows pulled up, and someone inside started shooting.

So one of the children is a mother and another child is her uncle? Wow. They're reproducing very early in Chicago. Or it's as dishonest as the previous example.

Either way it sure sounds like the stupid drug war again to me.

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#37 Comrade Tom Posted 23 September 2014 - 01:04 AM

1. Perps who have threatened someone's life have given up their own right to life in doing so.

 

2. Gun control has always been racist, and still is today with policies like "stop and frisk" and "may or may not issue" permits. Quit advocating that our officials be allowed to use race to dispense our rights and I will quit complaining about your advocacy of racist policies.

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Tensions were already smoldering in the Oregon Senate Wednesday, when Sen. Brian Boquist, R-Dallas, poured gasoline on the situation, suggesting he would shoot and potentially kill any state trooper sent to haul him unwillingly back to the Capitol. 

https://www.oregonlive.com/politics/2019/06/oregon-republican-senator-issues-threat-to-state-troopers.html

He's probably living off the land in the Malheur Wildlife Refuge (and getting paid). But remember, an armed society is a polite society.

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20 hours ago, Importunate Tom said:

Boy, that thread started out inconvenient and got worse, didn't it? No wonder it was archived.

You had an aggressive race-baiter package, in 2014? 

dogballs, how did you get kicked out of two private high schools?

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On 6/21/2019 at 7:14 AM, jocal505 said:

#37 Comrade Tom Posted 23 September 2014 - 01:04 AM

2. Gun control has always been racist, and still is today with policies like "stop and frisk" and "may or may not issue" permits. Quit advocating that our officials be allowed to use race to dispense our rights and I will quit complaining about your advocacy of racist policies.

Evidently, you were openly, shamelessly, race-baiting in 2014. It made you feel better.

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Mass Shooting In Michigan

 

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Congressional District: 5
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The circumstances of the shooting are still being investigated. No suspect is in police custody, Zook said.

 

As usual, not much is known beyond the crucial number four, but also as usual, TeamD knows which guns to ban in response, so DO SOMETHING.
 

 

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Congressional District: 1
State Senate District: 3
State House District: 5

About 3:08 a.m. someone came up the back alley stairs of a building in the 6300 block of South King Drive and fired shots into an apartment, according to preliminary information from Chicago police. Two women inside were struck by gunfire.

 

Considering it was Chicago, it's extremely unlikely that was a legal gun owner and far more likely it's the stupid drug war again.

But the failure of gun control and the violence spawned by the drug war are not relevant. The important thing here is four. So DO SOMETHING.

 

Mass Shooting In California

 

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Congressional District: 11
State Senate District: 9
State House District: 15

5 Hurt in Richmond Drive-By Shooting

All five victims suffered non-life threatening injuries. Police do not have a suspect(s) description at this time.

An investigation is ongoing and no other information was immediately available.

 

Gee, another stupid drug war drive-by.

But five is more than four so TeamD knows which guns to ban. TnP of DOING SOMETHING.

 

Mass Shooting In Maryland

 

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Congressional District: 7
State Senate District: 45
State House District: 45

Police said the quintuple shooting occurred just before 1:15 a.m. Saturday when police were called to the 800 block of N. Port St. in the Milton-Montford neighborhood. Detectives said an unidentified male suspect approached the crowd and began shooting.

 

Police are asking for anonymous tips again, so again we have a crowd of people who saw nothing and will say nothing. In other words, the stupid drug war again.

But five is more than four and that means we must DO SOMETHING.

 

 

 

 
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Mass Shooting In California

 

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Congressional District: 24
State Senate District: 19
State House District: 35

The Santa Maria Police Department confirms a fifth person was found dead in a home that was involved in a deadly shooting and explosion in Santa Maria Friday.

Police say two people were shot and three people were found dead in the burned down home. They believe one of the people found dead in the home is the shooter.

 

Four is four, since suicides are actually not "gun violence" in this context. Still, the math dictates the SOLution: DO SOMETHING.

 

Mass Shooting In Pennsylvania

 

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Congressional District: 3
State Senate District: 8
State House District: 186

Investigators had a large crime scene on their hands at 24th and Moore Streets after a shooting sent four people to the hospital around 10:30 p.m. Saturday. Three men were listed in stable condition, while a fourth man was listed in critical condition after police say he was shot in the back.

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This weekend’s shootings happened just hours after police and community leaders, including Kenney, walked the streets of West Philadelphia in response to the upsurge in gun violence.

“You have to develop relationships, earn people’s trust, so you can get information that will help save lives,” Kenney said.

Shootings are up 3% and homicides have risen more than 6% so far this year.

The Anti-Violence and Anti-Drug Network has been hosting community walks since August 2018. They say they are critical.

“They’re people who grew up in neighborhoods like this and for that reason they have some built-in credibility. It’s easy for them to establish a rapport, and the interaction is a big part of what helps us to prevent violence,” executive director of the Anti-Violence and Anti-Drug Network George Mosee said.

If you have information on any of the shootings, call police.

 

Sounds like they know it's the stupid drug war again. Walking through the neighborhoods won't change the incentives built into the violent black market, but "quadruple shooting" means "politically useful shooting" once again, so TnP of DOING SOMETHING.

 

Mass Shooting In Virginia

 

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Congressional District: 3
State Senate District: 2
State House District: 92

Police say that two children and two adults have been injured after a shooting at Buckroe Beach.

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The victims were in different areas of the park during the shooting, police say.

 

Wow, that's strange. It sounds like this one might actually NOT be the stupid drug war again. Not that it matters, since the math dictates the SOLution: DO SOMETHING.

 

Mass Shooting In S Carolina

 

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Congressional District: 3
State Senate District: 10
State House District: 11

Thom Berry, spokesman for the S.C. Law Enforcement Division, says Elijah Ty Rez Head, 19, was arrested around 1:30 a.m. Monday at the Ideal Motel on Highway 72 in Greenwood.

ELIJAH-TY-REZ-HEAD.jpg Elijah Ty Rez Head

Berry says Head is charged with three counts of murder and one count of attempted murder in the shooting at Hickory Heights Apartments on Cambridge Street in Abbeville Sunday morning.

 

One of the relatively rare mass shootings that involved fatalities, and this one was perpetrated by a child, who appears kind of immature and volatile judging by the picture. Not a very convenient mass shooting but as always, the math dictates the SOLution: DO SOMETHING.

 

Mass Shooting In California

 

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Congressional District: 52
State Senate District: 39
State House District: 78

According to police, partygoers were standing outside a home in the area when a light-colored sedan drove into the alley and shot the victims.

 

Gee, sounds like the stupid drug war again, but as always, the math dictates the SOLution: DO SOMETHING.

 

Mass Shooting In Ohio

 

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Congressional District: 3
State Senate District: 15
State House District: 25

Columbus police were called to 1767 Genessee Ave. just east of Cleveland Avenue at 4:48 a.m. on a report of a shooting, a police dispatcher said. The address is the home of the Toros Motorcycle Club, whose logo is on the front door.

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A man at the Toros Motorcycle Club who did not want to be identified said it appeared to be a drive-by shooting. He said one of the people shot was a club member but did not give a name.

Police said victims told them a white Ford Crown Victoria drove by, and at least 10 shots were fired from the car.

 

Gee, another stupid drug war drive-by. As always, the math dictates the SOLution: DO SOMETHING.

 

Mass Shooting In Indiana

 

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Congressional District: 2
State Senate District: 10
State House District: 6

One person is dead and as many as 10 others are injured after shootings at an east side bar early Sunday.

Police were called between 2 and 2:30 a.m. to Kelly’s Pub, 1150 E. Mishawaka Ave.

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The St. Joseph County Police were also called to assist with city police calls and a crowd of more than 100 “upset and angry citizens” who came to the hospital from Kelly’s Pub, causing the building to be locked down, according to a news release.


 

Gee another late night at a bar. And an even later night at the hospital, which is odd. Mayor Pete's town and 11 is way more than four, so it's a bit surprising that I'm the only one here offering TnP of DOING SOMETHING.

 

 

 

 

 

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Mass Shooting In Ohio

 

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Congressional District: 11
State Senate District: 28
State House District: 35

One Akron man is dead after three attackers gunned him down Wednesday afternoon in a home invasion on Rowe Street in south Akron.

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According to witnesses, several shots were fired coming from inside the house. Edwards said the witnesses observed three males running from the house through neighborhood backyards.

 

No telling what kind(s) of gun(s) they may have used but four is four so we know what kinds to ban. DO SOMETHING.

 

Mass Shooting In Wisconsin

 

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Congressional District: 4
State Senate District: 6
State House District: 16

Four men were hurt in a shooting near 34th and Hadley on Wednesday, June 27. The victims were all taken to the hospital for their injuries. Neighbors say this is the second shooting in the same location in two days.

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Police haven't said if any suspects have been arrested -- but the mayor says officers know who they're looking for, and that the shooters and victims know each other.

 

Sounds like more stupid drug war violence between rival gangs, much like we saw with alcohol prohibition.

But four is four so TnP of DOING SOMETHING unrelated.

 

Mass Shooting In Georgia

 

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Congressional District: 5
State Senate District: 36
State House District: 58

The shootings occurred around 3 a.m. on the 600 block of Parkway Dr.

In all, seven people were shot. Two of the victims are in serious condition while five others are in stable condition.

Police said the victims were standing outside the Bedford Pines Apartments on Parkway Drive talking when a dark-colored vehicle and a silver-colored vehicle pulled up and the suspects began shooting.

In a press conference Thursday afternoon, police said more than two dozen shots were fired and there were more than one, but less than five shooters. 

They believe the shooting was gang-related and that the shooters and the shooting victims are connected.

 

Gee, another stupid drug war drive-by. As always, the math dictates the SOLution: DO SOMETHING.

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Mass Shooting In Connecticut

 

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Around 8:45 p.m., police responded to a Choate Avenue home for a report of a large group, according to Police Capt. Ronald Smith during a press conference around 11 p.m. He said gunfire erupted shortly after police arrived.

“While we had three or four officers on scene, someone began to shoot into the crowd,” Smith said.

He said the officers, who were about 30 to 50 feet away from the shooting, were not fired upon and did not return fire. He said the shooting did not appear to be the result of the police pressence.

Smith estimated about 500 people were at the party. He said the homeowners, party guests and neighbors have been cooperative with the police investigation.
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The alleged shooter was described as a “black male with facial hair on the chin wearing dark jeans,” Smith said, adding “that’s the only description.” He said officers did a K9 track but were unsuccessful in locating the suspect.

 

Doesn't sound particularly convenient but five is more than four and the math dictates the SOLution as always, so TnP of DOING SOMETHING.

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Mass Shooting In Illinois

 

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About 2:32 a.m., five people were on the street in the 2400 block of West Jackson Boulevard when someone unleashed gunfire, Chicago police said.

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“I was woken up by the police lights,” Giovanni said. He only gave his first name for fear of getting recognized by the large group of people he said gather on the corner nearly every weekend.

“It’s a large crowd,” he said, “I usually try not to interact with them.”

 

Gee, sounds like the stupid drug war again. And again in Chicago, where there's almost no chance that a legally owned gun was used. As usual, we know nothing about the type of gun, but also as usual, five is more than four so the SOLution is to DO SOMETHING.

 

Mass Shooting In Louisiana

 

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Congressional District: 6
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State House District: 61

At least two people have life-threatening injuries after seven people were hurt during an early Saturday shooting at a night club on Florida Boulevard.


 

Gee, another late night at a bar. But six is more than four, so the math dictates the political SOLution once again. TnP of DOING SOMETHING.

 

Mass Shooting In Connecticut

 

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There are four victims, officials say they are all conscious and alert. Two are on the scene and two are already at the hospital, police said.

The cause for the shooting is not known.

 

The cause may not be known but the number four and the legislative district info are both known and no one really cares what kind of gun was used. TeamD knows what kind to ban in response (most kinds) so DO SOMETHING.

 

 

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26 minutes ago, Shootist Jeff said:

What I find interesting about these "mass shooting" reports that tom posts is that the type of gun used is totally irrelevant when its an inconvenient mass shooting.

Not just irrelevant, it's usually not even known when it comes to what seem to be the most common type of mass shooting: stupid drug war drive-by's.

I helpfully provided a pic of a 19 year old "child" who got hold of a gun for random's spank bank above.

What do you think are the odds we'll see Elijah Ty Rez Head in one of his fearmongering posts? I'm gonna say zero. Too close to the reality of the situation.

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Mass Shooting In New York

 

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Multiple people were shot in a drive by shooting on Farragut Ave just before 2AM this morning.

 

Gee, looks like the stupid drug war again. As with the last dozen mass shootings, no fatalities and no indication of what kind of gun may have been used. But it's a mass shooting because four, so TnP of DOING SOMETHING.

 

Mass Shooting In Illinois

 

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Around 12:56 a.m., a large group was involved in a fight in the 600 block of West Scott Street when someone opened fire, Chicago police said. Four men were struck in the incident.

A 49-year-old suffered a gunshot wound to the torso and a second man, 22, was struck in the chest, police said. The duo were taken to Northwestern Memorial Hospital in critical condition.

The third man, 37, was hit in the lower back and taken to the same hospital where his condition was stabilized, police said.

A 41-year-old-man thought to have been wounded in this incident was actually shot in the 1100 block of North Cambridge Avenue, police said.

 

Yes, of course it was Chicago again. And again the Gungrabby Archive fudges their own broad definition of "mass shooting" to reach the critical number four, the number that means we must DO SOMETHING.

 

Mass Shooting In California

 

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Police said the family was having a barbecue when at least one gunman got out of a vehicle and began shooting at the victims from the street. The victims were outside.
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Police don’t have a motive yet for the shooting.

Police and Crime Stoppers of Oakland are offering up to $20,000 in reward money for information leading to the arrest of the shooter.

 

Gee, 20 grand to anyone who wishes to have someone drive up and start shooting at them for talking to police.

Sounds like the stupid drug war yet again to me.

But four is four so TnP of DOING SOMETHING are in order.

 

 

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7 hours ago, Importunate Tom said:

Gee, 20 grand to anyone who wishes to have someone drive up and start shooting at them for talking to police.

Sounds like the stupid drug war yet again to me.

But four is four so TnP of DOING SOMETHING are in order.

What did you learn after getting kicked out of the first private high school?

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There were ELEVEN mass shootings over the weekend. This is a pattern, and we can break this pattern with comprehensive gun laws, and by recognizing and discouraging violent living patterns.

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Mass Shooting In New Jersey

 

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According to witnesses at the scene, at least two shooters were observed crouch down -military style- as the victims walked down the block. As the victims got closer, the suspects reportedly surprised them and began to fire multiple rounds.

Witnesses say after the shooting, the suspects fled the scene on foot.

The motive for the shooting remains under investigation.

 

Bah, who cares for motives? We have the number four and the legislative district information, so DO SOMETHING.

 

Mass Shooting In Minnesota

 

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Congressional District: 4
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State House District: 66B

Officers also responded to the 900 block of DeSoto Avenue about 10:30 p.m., and found three men and a woman wounded by gunfire, police said. All four were transported to Regions Hospital, where one of the men was being treated for “critical life threatening injuries” early Friday morning. Police expect the others to survive their injuries.

A fifth victim from that shooting, a man, showed up at an area hospital, where he was treated for a noncritical gunshot wound, Ernster said.

He said that while police are still assessing the circumstances that led up to the shooting on DeSoto

 

Bah, who cares for circumstances? Five is more than four so TeamD knows which guns to ban in response. DO SOMETHING.

 

Mass Shooting In Louisiana

 

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Congressional District: 6
State Senate District: 21
State House District: 51

According to Sheriff Jerry Larpenter, around 3:30 a.m. Saturday, deputies responded to the 2700 block of West Park Avenue for a call of multiple people shot inside of a car that crashed into a utility pole.

Officials said five people under the age of 21 were in the car at the time of the crash. Four of the people were shot and taken to a hospital.

Their conditions are not known.

Larpenter said the shooting appears to have stemmed from an earlier argument outside of a business on Martin Luther King Boulevard.

 

Bah, who cares about stems? Or seeds? This one has a distinct whiff of stupid drug war and/or late night at a bar, but none of that matters. What matters is four and, of course, DOING SOMETHING.

 

Mass Shooting In Texas

 

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Congressional District: 30
State Senate District: 23
State House District: 108
Two teens were killed and another two teens were injured in a drive-by shooting Sunday night near an apartment complex in old east Dallas. 

 

 

Gee, the stupid drug war again. But four is four so ignore the root causes and DO SOMETHING.

 

Mass Shooting In California

 

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Congressional District: 8
State Senate District: 23
State House District: 33

The people inside the Trailblazer started arguing with family members at the barbecue, according to deputies, then left after threatening to kill them. They returned and a fight broke out with shots fired from a handgun, wounding the five people.

 

The handgun was undoubtedly an assault weapon and not on California's ever-dwindling "safe gun" list, so DO SOMETHING.

 

 

 

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Mass Shooting In S Carolina

 

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Thom Berry, spokesman for the S.C. Law Enforcement Division, says Elijah Ty Rez Head, 19, was arrested around 1:30 a.m. Monday at the Ideal Motel on Highway 72 in Greenwood.

ELIJAH-TY-REZ-HEAD.jpg Elijah Ty Rez Head

Berry says Head is charged with three counts of murder and one count of attempted murder in the shooting at Hickory Heights Apartments on Cambridge Street in Abbeville Sunday morning.

 

One of the relatively rare mass shootings that involved fatalities, and this one was perpetrated by a child, who appears kind of immature and volatile judging by the picture. Not a very convenient mass shooting but as always, the math dictates the SOLution: DO SOMETHING.

I go to all the trouble of providing random with an incident in which a child got hold of a gun, and what do I get?

5 minutes ago, random said:

But why should I care, people like Tom don't.  The children can die as ling as they can have gunz.

 

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Mass Shooting In Maryland

 

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Congressional District: 7
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State House District: 45

Preliminary investigation revealed that an unidentified suspect approached the group of females, while in the 1200 block of North Luzerne Avenue, and began shooting.

They are expected to survive, police have not released a motive or any suspect information.

 

The lack of a motive or any information about the gun used should not mean we can't ban some guns because of this incident. Four is, after all, four. So DO SOMETHING. <-- The latest US House version of "something" includes a confiscation upgrade to the Senate plan I have linked previously.

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8 more mass shootings over the holiday, none of which seem all that convenient, but someone has to offer up T's and P's so it once again falls to me.

Mass Shooting In Missouri

 

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Congressional District: 1
State Senate District: 14
State House District: 86

Police are searching for a suspect who injured four people in a drive-by shooting Tuesday night.

 

Gee, the stupid drug war again. So DO SOMETHING. <-- The latest US House version of "something" includes a confiscation upgrade to the Senate plan I have linked previously.

 

Mass Shooting In Texas

 

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Congressional District: 22
State Senate District: 18
State House District: 28

A Texas sheriff says a brother fatally shot his sister and wounded three others before killing himself at a housewarming party.

 

Four is four. So DO SOMETHING. <-- The latest US House version of "something" includes a confiscation upgrade to the Senate plan I have linked previously. 

 

Mass Shooting In California

 

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Congressional District: 16
State Senate District: 14
State House District: 31

Police say families were having a block party when a group of people showed up.

Words were exchanged between the groups before they started shooting at each other.

 

Group. Gang. Whatever. Has the distinct whiff of more stupid drug war violence. So DO SOMETHING. <-- The latest US House version of "something" includes a confiscation upgrade to the Senate plan I have linked previously. 

 

Another Mass Shooting In California

 

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Congressional District: 40
State Senate District: 30
State House District: 59

A motive for the shooting is unknown. Officer Kraft said investigators don’t believe it was gang-related.

No further details were immediately available.

 

Motives and details aren't necessary. Everyone knows what kinds of guns to ban because four. So DO SOMETHING. <-- The latest US House version of "something" includes a confiscation upgrade to the Senate plan I have linked previously. 

 

Mass Shooting In Illinois

 

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Congressional District: 7
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State House District: 10

The group was standing outside about 11:30 a.m. near Iowa Street and Homan Avenue when a car drove by and someone inside started shooting, according to Chicago police.

 

Gee, another stupid drug war drive by in Chicago. But once again the math dictates the SOLution. So DO SOMETHING. <-- The latest US House version of "something" includes a confiscation upgrade to the Senate plan I have linked previously. 

 

Mass Shooting In Mass

 

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Congressional District: 8
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State House District: 193

Boston Police responded to a report of a person shot on Maple Street. According to Commissioner William Gross, three men and three women were found suffering from gunshot wounds.

"People were just attending a gathering when an unknown suspect, or suspects, opened fire," Gross told reporters around 1 a.m. Saturday.

 

Six is more than four. The legislative info is right there. So DO SOMETHING. <-- The latest US House version of "something" includes a confiscation upgrade to the Senate plan I have linked previously. 

 

Another Mass Shooting In Illinois

 

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Five people were wounded by gunfire Friday in Woodlawn on the South Side.

Officers responded to calls of shots fired about 2:08 a.m. in the 1600 block of East 67th Street and found five people with gunshot wounds, Chicago police said.

 

Yuge surprise that it's Chicago again. But five is more than four so DO SOMETHING. <-- The latest US House version of "something" includes a confiscation upgrade to the Senate plan I have linked previously. 

 

Mass Shooting In New York

 

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Congressional District: 8
State Senate District: 19
State House District: 60

The four were injured when someone opened fire on Elton Street near Sutter Avenue in East New York just after midnight.

 

Four is four. So DO SOMETHING. <-- The latest US House version of "something" includes a confiscation upgrade to the Senate plan I have linked previously. 

 

 

 

 

 

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2 hours ago, Importunate Tom said:

8 more mass shootings over the holiday, none of which seem all that convenient, but someone has to offer up T's and P's so it once again falls to me.

 Eight times four, plus four. You are belittling the gun injuries of thirty six human beings. You got out of bed planning to marginalize a terrible problem. You are the dogballs, a Libertarian model for PA, and this shows why the dogballs name fits IMO.

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11 more mass shootings have happened.

Presumably, none were very convenient or they would have gotten a thread or two here. Let's see...

Mass Shooting In Illinois

 

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State House District: 26

Five people were wounded by gunfire Friday in Woodlawn on the South Side.

Officers responded to calls of shots fired about 2:08 a.m. in the 1600 block of East 67th Street and found five people with gunshot wounds, Chicago police said.

 

Of course it's Chicago again, and what Jim Croce called the baddest part of town. Not sure if that's still true.

Nothing is reported on the type(s) of guns used but since 5 is more than 4, we all know what kinds to ban. DO SOMETHING.

 

Mass Shooting In Nevada

 

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Congressional District: 2
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State House District: 24

One person died July 5, 2019 in the shooting near the Wells Avenue overpass. Three others were being treated at a hospital.

The shooting happened about 9:15 p.m. in the 600 block of Spokane Street, which is a block south of Interstate 80 and west of Diamond’s Casino.

Police have recovered a Jeep they believe was connected to the shooting. No one has been arrested and police say they are not looking for a shooter, but haven't elaborated on the status of the investigation.

The name of the person who died has not been released.

Renown Regional Medical Center, which stands about 2000 feet south of the shooting scene, was placed under a precautionary lockdown Friday night, a hospital spokesperson confirms.

 

Another stupid drug war drive-by, again police offering a reward for information. Not looking for the shooter seems odd but practical, since they don't often find the perpetrators of these drive-by's, which often use a stolen car.

Locking down the hospital so that the drug war doesn't find its way inside is just sad.

But none of that matters. Four is four. DO SOMETHING.

 

Mass Shooting In Massachusetts

 

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Congressional District: 8
State Senate District: 30
State House District: 193

Police said the victims, three men and three women ages 25 to 35, were shot while inside a vehicle. It is not clear whether they were inside the same vehicle or in different vehicles.

"It's really sad," said neighborhood resident Marie Rudolph. "This community, once, was taken over by drugs and they cleaned it up, and now it seems to be coming back. Most times, it's probably people that don't even live over here."

 

People who live with stupid drug war violence know it's stupid drug war violence. But that's not really politically useful for gungrabby purposes. Instead we must focus on the fact that 6 is more than 4 and DO SOMETHING.

 

Mass Shooting In Missouri

 

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Congressional District: 1
State Senate District: 14
State House District: 75

Bell and Belmar credited steadfast police work and cooperation from the public.

“I appreciate the diligence, the work of the detectives and the St. Louis County Police officers that worked on this case they worked tirelessly, the detectives rode this out for about the first 32 hours before taking their first break,” said Belmar.

Neither Bell nor Belmar would elaborate on what led up to the shooting but when asked if drugs were involved, Belmar did say illicit narcotics were associated with the crime.

 

Gee, the stupid drug war again. Two have been arrested and they appear a bit immature and volatile, just going by their pictures. Very inconvenient.

But five is more than four so TnP of DOING SOMETHING.

 

Mass Shooting In California

 

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Congressional District: 18
State Senate District: 15
State House District: 28

Four males suffered non-life-threatening injuries when they were shot at a San Jose home late Saturday night, according to police.

Police are still looking for a suspect in the shooting, which occurred around 11:45 p.m. in the area of Manda Drive and Hillsdale Avenue. Neighbors say there was a party going on at the home that was occupied by Airbnb renters at the time of the shooting.

 

No suspect and no known motive, but four is, after all, four, so DO SOMETHING.

 

Mass Shooting In New Mexico

 

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Congressional District: 1
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State House District: 11

Albuquerque Police are investigating after four people were shot outside of a popular downtown night club early Sunday.

Police first reported that three people were taken into custody for questioning. However, authorities have determined that after multiple interviews were conducted there were conflicting statements.

APD says that at this time there is insufficient evidence to make an arrest. An investigation has been launched by Valley Impact Detectives and police say a vehicle with multiple visible firearms have been sealed for a warrant.

 

Gee, another late night at a bar and a whiff of drug war violence again.

But four is, after all, four, so DO SOMETHING.

 

Mass Shooting In Illinois

 

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Congressional District: 7
State Senate District: 3
State House District: 6

Four people were wounded in a shooting Sunday in Englewood on the South Side.

They were outside about 1:10 a.m. in the 600 block of West 61st Place when someone unleashed gunfire and struck them, Chicago police said.

 

Yes, of course it's Chicago again and of course it sounds a lot like the stupid drug war again. There's something of a pattern to these inconvenient shootings.

But four is, after all, four, so DO SOMETHING.

 

Mass Shooting In Illinois

 

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Congressional District: 7
State Senate District: 3
State House District: 6

Four people were wounded in a shooting Sunday in Englewood on the South Side.

They were on the sidewalk about 3:43 a.m. in the 5600 block of South Paulina Street when someone fired shots from a black SUV, Chicago police said.

 

Yes, of course it's Chicago again and of course it sounds a lot like the stupid drug war again. There's something of a pattern to these inconvenient shootings.

But four is, after all, four, so DO SOMETHING.

 

Mass Shooting In Missouri

 

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Congressional District: 1
State Senate District: 5
State House District: 79

Five people were shot early Sunday morning in downtown St. Louis.

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According to police, the victims are not cooperating and a motive is unknown.

 

Gee, shooting victims who understand that cooperating with the police could be extremely hazardous to their health. Translation: the stupid drug war again.

But five is more than four so the political SOLution is the same as it ever was: DO SOMETHING.

 

Mass Shooting In Michigan

 

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Congressional District: 5
State Senate District: 27
State House District: 34

Michigan State Police say six people have been shot at a gas station on the corner of Clio Road and Myrtle Street in Flint.

The shooting happened just after 3 a.m. Sunday morning.

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Police say they are searching for two male suspects.

Descriptions have not been released.

Investigators say it's unclear what caused the shooting, but says it's not gang related.

 

Not gang related so maybe it's something in the water? No matter, as with other mass shootings the important point here is that 6 is more than 4 so we must mindlessly DO SOMETHING.

 

Mass Shooting In Washington DC

 

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Congressional District: 98
State Senate District: 8

Authorities say four men were shot outside of a 7-Eleven store in Southeast, D.C. Sunday night during the latest incident in a series of weekend violence.

Officers say the men were shot around midnight in the 3900 block of Martin Luther King Avenue. All of the victims are in critical condition with life-threatening injuries at this time. No employees were involved in the shootings. Investigators are looking for three black males all dressed in all black clothing and armed with handguns. They say the suspects fled the scene on foot.

 

Doesn't sound convenient for gungrabby purposes at all, but looking at details is really only for readers. This mass shooting, like the rest, is best viewed in the aggregate and the important thing to remember is that four is four so we must mindlessly DO SOMETHING.

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Mass Shooting In Texas

 

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State House District: 147

According to authorities, four men got into a shootout inside an apartment complex on Royal Palms near Griggs around 1:45 a.m. Thursday.

"The males come in through a pedestrian gate on the fence and started firing," said Larry Crowson with HPD. "We are not sure if they were firing at the apartments or one of the people out in the court yard. We just don't know at this point."

Police say all the victims were outside in a common area when the shooting started.

According to police, a 16-year-old and a 17-year-old girl were grazed by bullets, and 18-year-old Dyki Keller was also hit. They were all taken to the hospital.

A third 16-year-old girl who had serious injuries was also taken to the hospital.


Police say several apartments have bullet holes and it's possible others were injured and taken away in private cars to be checked out.

All of the suspects are on the loose, but there are no descriptions available.

 

Teenagers hanging out at 2 am, four people arrive and start shooting, and nobody saw nuttin.

That sounds more than a little like the stupid drug war again.

Mr. Keller appears to have gotten in trouble last year.
 

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Defendant Name: KELLER, DYKI

Date of Birth: 2001-06-20 00:00:00.000

Sex: M

Race: Immature and Volatile

Birthplace: TX

U.S. Citizen: Y

Address: 3433 W DALLAS ST HOUSTON, TX 77019

Charged with: THEFT >=$100<$750 Date Filed: 2018-08-25

 

 

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Mass Shooting In Illinois

 

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Congressional District: 1
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State House District: 31

They were gathered on the sidewalk about 2:58 a.m. in the 7900 block of South Loomis Boulevard when a gray sedan drove up, Chicago police said. Someone in the vehicle unleashed gunfire, striking the group, before driving off north on Loomis.

 

Gee, the stupid drug war again. Yuge surprise that it's Chicago again. But five is more than four so DO SOMETHING. <-- The latest US House version of "something" includes a confiscation upgrade to the Senate plan I have linked previously. 

 

Mass Shooting In Pennsylvania

 

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Congressional District: 3
State Senate District: 7
State House District: 192

"We know that there was a basketball game inside this park along with several hundred other people having a party, and two males started firing," said Philadelphia Police Commissioner Richard Ross.

Neighbors of the park said they have become accustomed to these types of things happening.

Lataya Williams also heard the gunfire Saturday night, but said she, too, expected something like this to happen, adding there were around 200-300 people gathered at the park Saturday night.

"It's typical around here, this always happens," she said. "People get robbed, shot or house invasion."

The first suspect is described as an African American with short hair, between 5-feet-10-inches and six-foot-two- inches tall, wearing a black hoodie and he was between the ages of 19 and 25.

The second man was wearing a black t-shirt, five-feet-six-inches tall.

 

Sounds like more stupid drug war violence to me, apparently in a neighborhood plagued by it. There are a couple of obvious reasons why this mass shooting isn't particularly convenient for gungrabby purposes and did not get its own thread, despite the large number of victims.

No matter, as with other mass shootings the important point here is that 7 is more than 4 so we must mindlessly DO SOMETHING.

 

Mass Shooting In Illinois

 

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Congressional District: 7
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State House District: 10

Four men were wounded in a shooting Sunday in Garfield Park on the West Side.

They were congregating on a corner about 1:43 a.m. in the 4600 block of West Erie Street when a male unleashed gunfire from across the street, Chicago police said.

 

Gee, sounds like the stupid drug war yet again. Of course it's Chicago yet again.

This sort of thing happens because people in rural areas own squirrel shooters, so we must mindlessly DO SOMETHING.

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Mass Shooting In Louisiana

 

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State House District: 99

Witnesses who live in the apartment complex said the deceased victim is a man. One person said he was shot multiple times in a hallway of the complex. Another woman who lives there said her entire apartment was shot up and her windows were shattered by gunfire. 

Other witnesses who did not want to go on camera said the apartment complex is home to reoccurring violence and drug activity. One woman said her grandchildren live with her and she worries for their safety. 

 

Gee, the stupid drug war again. But four is four and the legislative info is right there so TnP of DOING SOMETHING.

 

Mass Shooting In Georgia

 

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Congressional District: 5
State Senate District: 42
State House District: 89

Investigators are not naming any suspects but said they believe drugs played a role in the gun violence.

 

Gee, the stupid drug war again. But four is four and the legislative info is right there so TnP of DOING SOMETHING.

 

 

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On 6/11/2019 at 12:17 PM, Olsonist said:

So we can put you down for all guns are assault weapons. That does simplify things considerably.


"Pretty much." If you don't believe me, that is a direct quote from Bull Gator.

On 7/13/2019 at 6:54 PM, Fakenews said:

Pretty much all guns are assault weapons

Completely unrelated to assault weapons, I know.

I explained the political game before:

On 6/3/2018 at 6:36 AM, Importunate Tom said:

When you have a scary label like "assault weapon" the political trick becomes to see how many guns you can slap the label onto and thereby ban them.


That's why ordinary squirrel shooters like we own are included among supposedly "high powered military weapons."

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Mass Shooting In Texas

 

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State House District: 123

Kwenton Terrerll Thomas, 24, was arrested Tuesday afternoon after a shooting at a North Side moving company left four people injured, San Antonio police said.

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The handgun used in this shooting was not recovered, despite officers and K9 conducting an extensive search of the area, police said.

 

Oddly enough, this one does not appear to be directly related to the stupid drug war.

It doesn't say whether the handgun had any naughty "military" features like  a threaded barrel, but it's safe to assume it did and therefore DOING SOMETHING is a reasonable SOLution.

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Another Mass Shooting In Texas

 

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Congressional District: 19
State Senate District: 28
State House District: 84

Just after 10 p.m. Tuesday, Lubbock patrol officers responded to the intersection of Parkway Drive and Zenith Avenue for reports of a shooting. Four people were inside a car that was targeted and shot by at least one person.

The driver of the car, 18-year-old Jaquan Johnson, was struck during the shooting. He was taken to a Lubbock hospital with life-threatening injuries. The other three passengers, a 20-year-old female, 17-year-old female and 16-year-old female, were not injured during the incident.

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it appears the shootings are a result of an ongoing dispute between several different groups

 

And we're back to stupid drug war violence again. Once again the Gungrabby Archive stretches their definition to pad the numbers.

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Mass Shooting (4+ victims injured or killed excluding the subject/suspect/perpetrator, one location)

Injured. Not injured. It's all pretty much the same thing. The important thing here is four. So DO SOMETHING.

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Mass Shooting In Illinois

 

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Congressional District: 7
State Senate District: 5
State House District: 10

Four people were shot, one of them fatally, Thursday while they stood on a porch in Garfield Park on the West Side.

They outside about 12:15 a.m. in the 3400 block of West Fulton Boulevard when someone emerged from a gangway and fired shots, Chicago police said.

 

They have special "ways" for gangs in Chicago now?

Sure looks like the stupid drug war again. But four is four and the legislative info is right there so TnP of DOING SOMETHING.

 

 

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On 7/19/2019 at 4:07 AM, Importunate Tom said:
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I am fascinated by the racial issue, stuck on it. I am very bright,  I make sure to connect the issue to guns. 

They have special "ways" for gangs in Chicago now?

They also have special ways in Florida and the deep south. Watch this play out, fella.

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Mass Shooting In Illinois

 

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Congressional District: 5
State Senate District: 6
State House District: 12

According to Chicago police, a “group of individuals” was walking toward the lakefront while another group was leaving at about 3:30 a.m., near the intersection of Fullerton Avenue and Lake Shore Drive. A verbal altercation broke out between the groups and escalated to gunfire, with individuals from both groups firing handguns at one another.

 

Groups. Gangs. Whatever. Sure looks like a gang conflict from the stupid drug war again. In Chicago again.

But 7 is way more than four so TnP of DOING SOMETHING are in order as always.

 

Mass Shooting In Pennsylvania

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Investigators said they received a call around 12:16 a.m. for a reported shooting with several people shot in a yard on Waddell Avenue.

When investigators arrived, they said dozens of people scattered and many did not return. The four teens were found shot and then sent to the hospital.

“We’re trying to identify suspects, and we’re going to enlist the public’s help with that,” Allegheny County Police Lt. Ken Ruckel said.

Police hope someone from that party is able to give them some information on what happened.

“Somebody knows something at that party, and that’s the people we want to speak to,” Lt. Ruckel said.

 

What kind of people don't immediately talk to police when their friends have been shot?

People who know drug gangs will kill them if they do is the most likely answer.

But no matter. Four is four so the math dictates the SOLution once again: DO SOMETHING.

 

Mass Shooting In New Jersey

 

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Congressional District: 10
State Senate District: 31
State House District: 31

According to police, gunmen sprayed the area of Martin Luther King Drive and Virginia Avenue with bullets -just before 12:25 a.m.- sending officers to the scene where they found at least two victims struck by bullets at that location.

Polices set up a large crime scene where they found shell casings several blocks away according to reports.

Hospital officials say about four victims were driven to the hospital in private vehicle seeking treatment for gunshot wounds.

 

Gee, looks like more stupid drug war violence again.

But no matter. About six is more than four so the math dictates the SOLution once again: DO SOMETHING.

 

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Yo, thanks for the Sunday morning race-baiting. Good job.

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On 7/18/2019 at 1:46 AM, Importunate Tom said:

Injured. Not injured. It's all pretty much the same thing.

Injured and non-injured, it's all the same? Tell us more about that.

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5 hours ago, jocal505 said:

Yo, thanks for the Sunday morning race-baiting. Good job.

Amazing how you immediately assume the race of all the people involved. But you are not racist, right Joe?

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Mass Shooting In Illinois

 

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Congressional District: 7
State Senate District: 5
State House District: 9


Four men were wounded in a shooting Sunday in Lawndale on the West Side.

About 3:25 a.m., they were gathered outside of a gas station in the 3900 block of Roosevelt Road when someone in a gray or silver-colored sedan unleashed gunfire at the group, Chicago police said

 

Yes, of course it was Chicago again, and of course it was another stupid drug war drive-by.

And of course the math dictates the political SOLution again: four is four. DO SOMETHING.

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19 hours ago, bpm57 said:

Amazing how you immediately assume the race of all the people involved. But you are not racist, right Joe?

I have never claimed NOT to be a racist. I have pointed out that racist tendencies seem to run deeply within all of us. The question is the degree of (one's own) racism, and whether each individual has a grasp of this, whether he has any working awareness.

For a sport, several of you are trying very hard to blame another for his racism. You are wasting your bits. You can only control your own racism, so you might look to that.

 

Race-baiting itself is finger-pointing, to dummy up the conversation. It is not racism.

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Mass Shooting In Washington DC

 

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Congressional District: 98
State Senate District: 5

Police were called shortly before 9 p.m. to the 2300 block of 15th Street NE, where they found three of the victims, all men, suffering from gunshot wounds. A fourth victim was later taken to a hospital in a private vehicle, police said. 

 

Nothing is known about things like the motive or type of gun(s) used, but four is four so we all know that the cause is people owning squirrel shooters and other assault weapons, so TnP of DOING SOMETHING.

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Mass Shooting In Florida

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Oddly enough, this one doesn't appear to be related to the stupid drug war.

Keeping in mind the Gungrabby Archives' definition of a "mass" shooting...

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Mass Shooting (4+ victims injured or killed excluding the subject/suspect/perpetrator, one location)

The related article says:

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Coleman-Wright said two of the patients, later identified as Kamar and Jamar Reid, were transported in unknown condition to Memorial Regional Hospital, while a third patient, later identified as 25-year-old Davieon Reid, was pronounced dead at the hospital.

7News learned Wednesday that at least one of the brothers is in the hospital’s intensive care unit.

Investigators said the three brothers are suspects in the shooting.
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Deputies said there was some sort of confrontation between three brothers and the mechanic before the shooting.

 

Oh. So once again the Gungrabby Archive is stepping outside their own definition to pad the numbers, since Kamar, Jamar, and Davieon are suspects.

But their lies don't matter. The important thing here is four. So TnP of DOING SOMETHING.

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10 minutes ago, Repastinate Tom said:

Mass Shooting In Florida

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Oddly enough, this one doesn't appear to be related to the stupid drug war.

Keeping in mind the Gungrabby Archives' definition of a "mass" shooting...

The related article says:

Oh. So once again the Gungrabby Archive is stepping outside their own definition to pad the numbers, since Kamar, Jamar, and Davieon are suspects.

But their lies don't matter. The important thing here is four. So TnP of DOING SOMETHING.

Three suspects got shot, and each is a human citizen. Each is presumed innocent by high flyers such as yourself. You don't count the shot-up perps? Why are they not to be in your Libertarian stats?

CATO is a heartless lot; their boy is ever-so-pure, but inconsistent.

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25 minutes ago, jocal505 said:

You don't count the shot-up perps?

 

34 minutes ago, Repastinate Tom said:

Keeping in mind the Gungrabby Archives' definition of a "mass" shooting...

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Mass Shooting (4+ victims injured or killed excluding the subject/suspect/perpetrator, one location)

I don't own the Gungrabby Archives. THEY don't count suspects or perps.

Are they wrong? Careful. The TeamD taboo will get you if you hold them to the same standard as me.

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19 minutes ago, Repastinate Tom said:

 

I don't own the Gungrabby Archives. THEY don't count suspects or perps.

Are they wrong? Careful. The TeamD taboo will get you if you hold them to the same standard as me.


Your standards fascinate me, Shirley. Some quick examples:

  • You have half a dozen retractions you owe this community, (e.g. Miller misrepresentations, research ban denials, false SDU basics)
  • Your standards accept the scholarship of Joyce Malcolm, which has been fully discredited.
  • Your standards quote the research of John R. Lott, who is a joke among honest men.
  • You would use Dylann Roof, with coyness, several different ways. Wtf.
  • You would maintain race-baiting in public, indefinitely; your own prolific race-baiting was rejected by yourself and Zapata on GA!
  • You minimize school shootings, mass shootings, and the shootings of perps, for entertainment.
  • With SfB this morning, Kelo Tom insisted on staying on track, ever so keenly and righteously, but the dogballs uses major deflections, regularly.

 

 

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Mass Shooting In North Carolina

 

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Congressional District: 8
State Senate District: 33
State House District: 67

Upon arriving at the scene they discovered a 24 year old male victim who had been shot. Deputies say he was able to make it out of the home where the shooting happened alive, but he had serious injuries. He was rushed to the hospital and after emergency surgery, officials say he is expected to be okay.

Inside of the home, deputies found three deceased individuals. At this time the deputies are not searching for any suspects and the Sheriff’s Office has stated that there is no danger to the public stemming from this incident, nor is a suspect in custody. Deputies are considering this a death investigation.

 

Huh? Sounds like the police think one of the three dead people was the perpetrator, so the Gungrabby Archives are again breaking their own standards to pad the numbers.

But gungrabby lies are not important. The important thing is four, which is how we know we must TnP of DOING SOMETHING.

 

Mass Shooting In California

 

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Congressional District: 30
State Senate District: 27
State House District: 45

A man fatally shot his father, brother and two other people Thursday during a 12-hour rampage across Los Angeles' sprawling San Fernando Valley, eluding a manhunt until he was arrested after gunning down a bus passenger, authorities said.  

 

 

Keeping in mind the Gungrabby Archives' definition:

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Mass Shooting (4+ victims injured or killed excluding the subject/suspect/perpetrator, one location)

It seems to me that they're stretching the "one location" thing to a series of crimes spanning many hours and miles. Lying to pad the numbers again.

But no matter. "Mass" shootings are extremely politically convenient as long as no one actually looks into what really happened. The important thing is, 6 is more than 4 so the universal SOLution to "mass" shootings applies as always: DO SOMETHING.

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Mass Shooting In Washington

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One person was killed and three others wounded in a gang-related shooting Friday night near the Benton County Fairgrounds in east Kennewick.

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The names of those wounded in the shooting are not being released by police at this time.

Moore said since they don’t yet know what role each person played, everyone is being looked at as a suspect.

 

Gee, the stupid drug war again and number padding by the Gungrabby Archives again.

But gungrabby lies and the perils of prohibition are not important. The important thing is four, which is how we know we must TnP of DOING SOMETHING.

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Mass Shooting In New York

 

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Congressional District: 9
State Senate District: 20
State House District: 43

One person was reported dead when about a dozen people were shot at a big outdoor gathering in a Brooklyn playground on Saturday night, police said.

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Police located one firearm, which they taped off in the playground area. Officers were still investigating the scene early Sunday, and had made no arrests.

 

No word on what type of gun was used but that should be easy to learn if the perp was one of The Rich, the Famous, the Armed. Probably wasn't, though. More likely someone poor and not famous, showing once again why such people should be priced out of the exercise of their rights.

Still, 12 is way more than 4 so TeamD knows what kinds of guns to ban in response. DO SOMETHING.

 

Mass Shooting In Kansas

 

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Congressional District: 4
State Senate District: 30
State House District: 87

Police say a party was being held at one of the apartment units. There was a disturbance that occurred in the parking lot, and Markeithen McClaine fired multiple shots into the crowd.

McClaine was arrested on charges of first-degree murder and three counts of aggravated battery.

 

Mr. McClaine doesn't appear to be a politically convenient perpetrator so I'm guessing I'll once again be the only person to offer TnP of DOING SOMETHING.

 

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A busy weekend, with 5 mass shootings, only one of which appears to have been convenient for gungrabby purposes. I mistakenly thought that the 12 victims in New York had belatedly proven convenient but it turns out they were not. Details to follow, but I have a boat to prep now.

 

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Mass Shooting In Illinois

 

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Congressional District: 7
State Senate District: 5
State House District: 9

4 shot 3938 W Roosevelt

Male - L leg

Male - Scrotum

Female - R leg

Male - L leg

 

Yes, of course it was Chicago again. Their gun control laws, like California's and prohibition programs everywhere, "almost work" all the time.

That's all that is known, but it's plenty to know that such things are caused by rural people owning squirrel shooters, so DO SOMETHING.

 

Mass Shooting In Pennsylvania

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Six people have were shot when police say a drive-by gunman opened fire moments before the victims were set to shoot a rap video in Southwest Philadelphia.

More stupid drug war gang violence is the best guess here, but six is more than four so TeamD knows which guns to ban in response. DO SOMETHING.

 

Mass Shooting In California

This is one of those extremely rare mass shootings that is politically convenient for gungrabbing, so it is discussed extensively elsewhere and in Bull Gator's post above. As with all the others, it's caused by rural people owning squirrel shooters, so DO SOMETHING.

 

Mass Shooting In Pennsylvania

 

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Congressional District: 14
State Senate District: 32
State House District: 51

Dwayne Gregg Anderson allegedly opened fire at a birthday party, injuring two people. A short time later he allegedly shot a man in the lef just around the corner.

Police said Anderson is a convicted felon who has committed burglary and robbery. He is not allowed to legally own guns.

Police are crediting neighbors with helping track Anderson down.

 

Well, those two shootings do add up to a "mass" shooting and the fact that gun control almost worked again is, I'm sure, comforting to grabbers. Mr. Anderson appears pretty immature and volatile, so this one isn't really all that convenient, but hey, let's TnP of DOING SOMETHING anyway.

 

Mass Shooting In Washington DC

 

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Congressional District: 98
State Senate District: 1

Metropolitan Police say the shooting happened at 637 T street in Northwest at 4 a.m. near the Howard Theatre.

Four victims were shot when an unknown gunman opened fire with a handgun before fleeing from the location.

Police say Fuada Gemada, Charles Vendor, Yonatan Mariam, and Ezana Abraham, all of Washington, were shot outside a bar/nightclub.

 

Gee, another late night at a bar. Haven't seen one of those in a while. The article doesn't say whether the handgun had some scary feature that made it an "assault" weapon but the only safe thing to do is, as always, SOMETHING.

 

Mass Shooting In Wisconsin

 

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Congressional District: 3
State Senate District: 23
State House District: 67

Chippewa County sheriff's officials said deputies responded to a 911 call about a shooting at a residence in Lake Hallie about 10:30 p.m. Sunday and found a man and woman dead.

Two other adults were rushed to the hospital with gunshot wounds.

Sheriff James Kowalczyk said deputies went to a residence in the Town of Lafayette, about 9 miles away, about 2:30 a.m. Monday to notify the family of one of the people found dead in Lake Hallie.

There they found a man, a woman and a boy dead of gunshot wounds.

 

Once again it's really two shootings being lumped together to get past the crucial number four, meaning we must TnP of DOING SOMETHING.

 

Mass Shooting In Pennsylvania

This is actually a repeat of the report above, in which rapper Bankroll Gambino was killed. The legislative district info is missing, but tallying two "mass" shootings in the gungrabby archives is more politically useful than just one and will fool most people who don't actually check sources. Since the Gungrabby Archives went to all the trouble to list it twice, I guess I should TnP of DOING SOMETHING twice.

 

 

 

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Mass Shooting In Ohio

 

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Congressional District: 3
State Senate District: 15
State House District: 25

Witnesses told police that during a birthday party, two groups of young men became involved in a verbal fight, resulting in the five people being shot.  

According to police, it is unclear at this time which group started the fight and how many people actually fired a weapon.  

 

Police always seem to be interested in such irrelevant trivia.

Don't know why. We know 5 is more than 4 and the legislative district info is right there, so the SOLution is the same as always: DO SOMETHING.

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yo, dogballs ( @Repastinate Tom)

above, we find a trail of ghoul shit

now you are late for work after we had two very serious mass shootings yesterday

I came here to see you work them, like you worked dylann roof

and toss in some racebaiting, you have a certain style

 

 

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