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19 minutes ago, Christian said:

Sure they do - most do not have the VOR style big pod for high speed satcom but a smaller one usually built onto the center lifeline stanchion.  If it is not exactly 3m above the waterline it is pretty easy to put a short stub under the antenna

This on Comanche is typical for what I spoke of for Sat, 4G & WiFi. Say TP52's like Itchi don't even have that.

Probably a better reply is ask the question, if mounting a AIS antenna on an extension to comply with Regs 3 metre rule (smaller the boat the longer the extension) why doesn't anyone do this if it is a better solution?

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Ok I am now caught up on this thread. Yes I went live - first actually - with the news direct from Shipwright Arms where WOXI were having lunch in one room, and BJ in the other. Was the best place to

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3 hours ago, LB 15 said:

Well you have mine as well then. They don’t give those cubes away...

No, but if you buy enough tickets, you will eventually pick up a few.   Even I have a collection.  

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44 minutes ago, jack_sparrow said:

This on Comanche is typical for what I spoke of for Sat, 4G & WiFi. Say TP52's like Itchi don't even have that.

Probably a better reply is ask the question, if mounting a AIS antenna on an extension to comply with Regs 3 metre rule (smaller the boat the longer the extension) why doesn't anyone do this if it is a better solution?

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Ichi does at least have a center stanchion thingy ..........prefer the Indians hardware in that department.

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1 hour ago, Ease the sheet. said:

Enjoy that socialist mooring you capitalist pig!

Well actually you are both right and wrong.

A right wing capitalist supporting the concept of individuality @LB 15 may be as clearly obvious by having seperate umbrellas for each seat on the aft quarter, if an employee as some poor soul here suggested, he would be horrified looking at his payslip and seeing all that tax come out, but as a small business owner this Xmas jaunt to Moreton will be billed as a company expense, he reads The Australian or watchs Sky News, he is a bit of a meme junkie and my guess that meat he was getting ready to put on the BBQ is heavily marbled Wagu at $100/kg and will be washed down with a crisp bottle of Wild Oats Semillion where he has taken the label off so people can't cotton on to why they are choking but being fellow Tory's too polite to question why. 

He did however confuse with this post below and totally contrary to the Tory doctrine that; "people should just be allowed to say what they want to say and think what they want to think". However I forgive him as just reading a few posts here like Randumb's I was on the verge of topping myself and checking out the next world.

12 hours ago, LB 15 said:

Might be time for all you sad fucks to get on with your lives. The people who you dicks have wasted the last 6 days posting about have

As for his being a socialist mooring, I'm sorry but you are way off the mark. Things like this are banned in Queensland. 

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On ‎12‎/‎29‎/‎2018 at 1:45 PM, Wess said:

Nic ain't apparently judging from her facebook feed but is anyone/thing covering the protest hearing?

Ok I am now caught up on this thread. Yes I went live - first actually - with the news direct from Shipwright Arms where WOXI were having lunch in one room, and BJ in the other. Was the best place to be given that there is no way I could have gotten in the protest room, and there was nothing to say until there was a result. 

On ‎12‎/‎29‎/‎2018 at 1:47 PM, Bill E Goat said:

Maybe they dont like her as it was in her interview Harburg mentioned the missing AIS

Here is where I interviewed BJ on arrival and yes Harburg told me about the AIS:

On ‎12‎/‎29‎/‎2018 at 1:52 PM, Maw said:

It would be like commercial suicide if AoaSG did in my opinion. CYCA would probably see it as antagonising the situation and out her for a generation. I wouldn't go near it. 

Thanks for understanding that. Regardless, I did what I could, more than most, I appreciate your support @Maw and others who have had my back x 

On ‎12‎/‎29‎/‎2018 at 1:54 PM, Flippin Out said:

I wonder if WOXI and BJ shared a beer in Customs House last night ???

They did share a beer in Customs House after the race, but things were a little more tense in Shippies. Had a beer with all in both places. Cheers. 

On ‎12‎/‎29‎/‎2018 at 2:00 PM, random said:

Yep, Nic has had to fall in line with the Man.  Her gig was shaping up as an interesting alternative to the mainstream.  Now she is the mainstream.

She has discovered the commercial realities and needs to do what she is told, don't upset anyone.  So what's the point of subscribing or watching if it's the same old shit?

And Nic, it would be less annoying if you stop giggling and looking at the camera regularly.  Someone has to say it.

Copy. Don't worry, reading all of the hater comments have stopped the giggling. You are most welcome to join me on my next adventure and see if you can keep up and pay the bills! Given all the flack from this event online, in my inbox and even to my face (thanks to the guy who abused me in Customs House), I am beginning to understand that a lot of people do not understand the commitment and budget (or lack thereof) that it takes to cover sailing. And we all wonder why diehards get burned up so quickly trying to save this sport we all love. You may think I am a giggling blonde, but you don't know anything about my background, how hard I work, the politics I have to face, and how &$%£ing thick my skin has to be to deal with all your and others bullshit. 

Now, on top of going live outside of Shippies, first, and you will note there was not one giggle btw (see above), I was also first to get up the recording of the findings, and Squark came to me to record his comments. Now I will move onto the main thread... Oh what fun!

 

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3 minutes ago, sailorgirl218 said:

 

Copy. Don't worry, reading all of the hater comments have stopped the giggling.

Please don't...

Continue to be you, and don't worry about what one stupid hater says! 

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9 minutes ago, sailorgirl218 said:

Copy. Don't worry, reading all of the hater comments have stopped the giggling.

Random comes from some planet so far away he is still watching the 2017 prize giving. As for haters, there is actually not that many here on this thread. The fence sitters asking questions are not haters or fanboys. If they were not doing that, what would be the future for this sport we love to death? You do a brilliant job, keep trucking and giggling girl. 

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7 minutes ago, jack_sparrow said:

Random comes from some planet so far away he is still watching the 2017 prize giving. As for haters, there is actually not that many here on this thread. The fence sitters asking questions are not haters or fanboys. If they were not doing that, what would be the future for this sport we love to death? You do a brilliant job, keep trucking and giggling girl. 

Yeah this thread is pretty good. As I said above, I have them in my inbox and in person now, I don't have to go far ;) 

The other thread is another story, dealt with this one first! I am happy for the questions, and to be accountable, which is why I read these threads, as much as my family and friends hate me doing it! 

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15 minutes ago, sailorgirl218 said:

Here is where I interviewed BJ on arrival and yes Harburg told me about the AIS

 

22 minutes ago, sailorgirl218 said:

They did share a beer in Customs House after the race, but things were a little more tense in Shippies. Had a beer with all in both places.

I'm sure you have caught up with Butters blast at 1.50 in this vid of Caddy's. People at Shippies would have been hoping for Wyatt Earp to make an appearance.

 

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12 minutes ago, jack_sparrow said:

 

I'm sure you have caught up with Butters blast at 1.50 in this vid of Caddy's. People at Shippies would have been hoping for Wyatt Earp to make an appearance.

 

I was waiting for it for sure. Was the best place to be. Is always good going live as well, captures the essence of it all. 

11 minutes ago, frant said:

I hope you can keep up a coverage of sailing in the mainstream media. SA unfortunately thrives on personal abuse postings, hopefully none were directed at you. Keep up the good work.

Have had a few directed at me, there is one above in this thread, got my most recent via email a few hours ago. Seems to be part of the job now. Which is definitely sad, and not what I thought was going to be part of the deal with next to no pay, and no social life but hey, as I said, lucky I am tougher than most realise. 

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2 minutes ago, frant said:

SA unfortunately thrives on personal abuse postings,

That is way off the mark but understandable on account @LB 15 got you in his sights earlier today, but only because you replied to his annual S2H rant. Any abuse is mainly restricted to trolls and people with no knowledge who just don't know when to shut the fuck up. It is actually a very informative bar where you don't have to buy a shout. If not I wouldn't be here.

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27 minutes ago, sailorgirl218 said:

You may think I am a giggling blonde, but you don't know anything about my background, how hard I work, the politics I have to face, and how &$%£ing thick my skin has to be to deal with all your and others bullshit. 

Having relatives and colleagues that fall into the category of "bubbly blonde" as well as serious professional, I've pretty good idea how bad that can make dealing with all the existing BS and conservatism.

Personally, I remain in awe of what you do.  There are few on the planet with your sort of drive. I give a little cheer whenever you do an interview and you are treated as part of the sailing fraternity*, and the rock star pros accept you are part of the media entourage, and (just as importantly) a sailor. That has taken amazing effort.  What I am waiting for is when the rock stars start complaining that you passed them over for an interview.

It is going to be interesting. This is the essence of disruptive media. The field is still morphing, and where it goes I doubt anyone can sensibly predict. But stay part of it. I would suggest it will be a pretty good thing.

*even if part of the point is that is now the wrong word.

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1 hour ago, sailorgirl218 said:


@Maw

 

Copy. Don't worry, reading all of the hater comments have stopped the giggling.

I'm impressed that you found the time to reply Nic.

To qualify my comment.  During an interview, when a face suddenly shows both eyes and teeth to the camera, we all involuntarily have to look at it, particularly when it is attractive.  The act of looking at that face completely breaks the focus of the interview, especially when the interviewee is still answering the question you asked them.

All the best.

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57 minutes ago, sailorgirl218 said:

 Have had countless personal attacks, there is one above in this thread, got my most recent via email a few hours ago. Seems to be part of the job now. Which is definitely sad, and not what I thought was going to be part of the deal with next to no pay, and no social life but hey, as I said, lucky I am tougher than most realise. 

Pretty sad but easily cured. Just put a cardboard cutout of this guy behind you for live feeds and all will be sweet. However how tempting it may be, don't put a Zik cap on him, that may diminish the message.

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2 hours ago, sailorgirl218 said:

Copy. Don't worry, reading all of the hater comments have stopped the giggling.

 

55 minutes ago, random said:

I'm impressed that you found the time to reply Nic.

To qualify my comment.  During an interview, when a face suddenly shows both eyes and teeth to the camera, we all involuntarily have to look at it, particularly when it is attractive.  The act of looking at that face completely breaks the focus of the interview, especially when the interviewee is still answering the question you asked them.

All the best.

Randumb how you must pine away thinking of the old days where you could just dial up and communicate at will and no one could see you as a rude condescending cunt?

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21 minutes ago, jack_sparrow said:

Pretty sad but easily cured. Just put a cardboard cutout of this guy behind you for live feeds and all will be sweet. However how tempting it may be, don't put a Zik cap on him, that may diminish the message.

Ha - love it. And I don't think there will be a Zhik cap even on myself for a while. PS - onto page 21 of the main feed. Pissing my self laughing at the chat between you and inebriated. Gold. 

52 minutes ago, random said:

I'm impressed that you found the time to reply Nic.

To qualify my comment.  During an interview, when a face suddenly shows both eyes and teeth to the camera, we all involuntarily have to look at it, particularly when it is attractive.  The act of looking at that face completely breaks the focus of the interview, especially when the interviewee is still answering the question you asked them.

All the best.

I always read the threads, have been sailorgirl on SA since just after I started my blog... 2005 circa... and I always find time to reply. During a race is just not the time - I have shit to do. Thanks for re-wording your feedback, always happy to take constructive criticism on the chin. Will keep it in mind for my next interviews, hopefully you can also keep your feedback to constructive in nature in future. 

Cheers - SG. 

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1 hour ago, Francis Vaughan said:

Having relatives and colleagues that fall into the category of "bubbly blonde" as well as serious professional, I've pretty good idea how bad that can make dealing with all the existing BS and conservatism.

Personally, I remain in awe of what you do.  There are few on the planet with your sort of drive. I give a little cheer whenever you do an interview and you are treated as part of the sailing fraternity*, and the rock star pros accept you are part of the media entourage, and (just as importantly) a sailor. That has taken amazing effort.  What I am waiting for is when the rock stars start complaining that you passed them over for an interview.

It is going to be interesting. This is the essence of disruptive media. The field is still morphing, and where it goes I doubt anyone can sensibly predict. But stay part of it. I would suggest it will be a pretty good thing.

Thanks mate. 

I have to say there have been a few days recently where I have almost called it. BUT - I just love sailing, and sailors way too much it seems. 

Hopefully I will be around for a while, you guys - the audience, and sponsors pending :) 

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2 hours ago, sailorgirl218 said:

I was waiting for it for sure. Was the best place to be. Is always good going live as well, captures the essence of it all. 

Have had a few directed at me, there is one above in this thread, got my most recent via email a few hours ago. Seems to be part of the job now. Which is definitely sad, and not what I thought was going to be part of the deal with next to no pay, and no social life but hey, as I said, lucky I am tougher than most realise. 

Just ignore them, 99.9 % of us do. :)

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2 hours ago, Francis Vaughan said:

Having relatives and colleagues that fall into the category of "bubbly blonde" as well as serious professional, I've pretty good idea how bad that can make dealing with all the existing BS and conservatism.

Personally, I remain in awe of what you do.  There are few on the planet with your sort of drive. I give a little cheer whenever you do an interview and you are treated as part of the sailing fraternity*, and the rock star pros accept you are part of the media entourage, and (just as importantly) a sailor. That has taken amazing effort.  What I am waiting for is when the rock stars start complaining that you passed them over for an interview.

It is going to be interesting. This is the essence of disruptive media. The field is still morphing, and where it goes I doubt anyone can sensibly predict. But stay part of it. I would suggest it will be a pretty good thing.

*even if part of the point is that is now the wrong word.

Not often I find myself in the same boat and in complete agreement with Francis, even to echoing his first paragraph with him. You deserve to be proud of your work Sailor Girl.

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19 minutes ago, frant said:

Who are the other 0.09% then or is Randumb 10 times more annoying than he has a right to be?

Frant, we tend to use logarithmic equations when it comes to Random.

I do like him for the fact he doesn't hold a grudge though.

 

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3 minutes ago, jack_sparrow said:

So you owe him money and or he got your sister pregnant?

It was the mutt Jack, not my sister. 

I put her down though, all the other dogs were laughing and calling her names. 

Seemed only humane to end it quickly.

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I'm up to page 31 in the main thread. 

More "criticism" from @random and @despacio avenue - man I love my job ;) 

Thanks for the back up guys - I do take it all on board, because you can always learn something. This year, and this event, in particular more than any other (and yes I did 60 last year), is so bloody tough politically and in terms of rights.  

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2 hours ago, hoppy said:

Who was the guy? One of the ch7 commentators who is pissed off because we would rather watch you stream the start (if allowed) than listen to him and watch only maxis?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA xxxxxxx

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4 hours ago, Francis Vaughan said:

Having relatives and colleagues that fall into the category of "bubbly blonde" as well as serious professional, I've pretty good idea how bad that can make dealing with all the existing BS and conservatism.

Personally, I remain in awe of what you do.  There are few on the planet with your sort of drive. I give a little cheer whenever you do an interview and you are treated as part of the sailing fraternity*, and the rock star pros accept you are part of the media entourage, and (just as importantly) a sailor. That has taken amazing effort.  What I am waiting for is when the rock stars start complaining that you passed them over for an interview.

It is going to be interesting. This is the essence of disruptive media. The field is still morphing, and where it goes I doubt anyone can sensibly predict. But stay part of it. I would suggest it will be a pretty good thing.

*even if part of the point is that is now the wrong word.

G'day Francis, I always enjoy reading your posts, even the tech ones that go way over my head, you bring an honest, erudite, educational balance to what can be full blown un-hinged threads.

Having said that, there are probably many people who dismiss or support Nic as a "bubbly blonde",  but are unaware of her C.V. 

I wonder how many of the contrarians are world champions in there chosen sport... I am posting a link here to Nics C.V. available to anyone who is willing to find it;

http://www.nicdouglass.org/biography/

Disclaimer: I have only ever briefly met Nic once, but she comes from a place I have close family ties to, there aren't many world champions coming out of the Milton / Ulladulla area.

Maybe the detractors on here or elsewhere can post their sailing resume' next time..

 

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5 hours ago, frant said:

LB has let himself down badly by flying the Red Ensign, My Yacht, by virtue of being on the Register of a Royal Yacht Club and by Royal assent as evidenced by a letter from a representative of her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II is entitled to fly the Blue Ensign. Of course we couldn’t have commercially tainted craft doing that as it is not a Yacht but a mere workboat. Maybe rather than a Tory LB is one of the despicable Nouveau Riche folk.

My club RQ has a royal warrant obviously but the right to fly the blue ensign is granted to the vessel not the club here in oz you silly cunt. Or are you mistaking the Australian civil  flag ( a defaced blue ensign) for a real blue ensign. But Don’t be concerned about your ignorance, we let clueless bogans into our club now as well. BTW my respectful comment about your cube collection was based on my belief that you were talking about World Champion cubes. If you were referring to anything else my respect is withdrawn. 

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1 hour ago, shaggybaxter said:

It was the mutt Jack, not my sister. 

I put her down though, all the other dogs were laughing and calling her names. 

Seemed only humane to end it quickly.

Oi! Where were you today?. Been waiting all afternoon. Heading back tomorrow now- Mum is back in hospital will txt or call tomorrow.

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Just for the record, Randumb would lick his own dick if he could. Because he can’t he just licks the windows. Again congratulations WOXI on a magnificent win.

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I hope your Mum is ok LB.

I've been sailing up and down the bay all bloody afternoon,and couldn't find a living soul. I puzzled and puzzled over it all the way in till I finally realised what was going on..

I'd forgotten to turn my AIS on.

:D:D:lol::D

Hat...coat..

  

 

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Christian,

To claim one could "easily" have a 2m pole plus antenna sticking up off a 1m transom antenna farm suggests you have little understanding of the pitching moment of a super maxi at 30 knots. The reinforcement required to keep such a lever from ripping out of the farm would be significant and for no real benefit.

Further, if you believe you can mount two VHF antenna within 100mm of one another and have one broadcast at 12W (25W at the radio less allowed cable loss) and not destroy the other's receiver then please proceed with the testing and publish the results.

All this nonsense notwithstanding, the facts remain that a 250g VHF antenna splitter is a far, far superior solution to either a transom mounted 3m AIS antenna or a second masthead antenna once all the ramifications are considered. In other words, as I said previously, the rules all but require the use of a splitter.

 

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1 hour ago, HILLY said:

G'day Francis, I always enjoy reading your posts, even the tech ones that go way over my head, you bring an honest, erudite, educational balance to what can be full blown un-hinged threads.

Having said that, there are probably many people who dismiss or support Nic as a "bubbly blonde",  but are unaware of her C.V. 

I wonder how many of the contrarians are world champions in there chosen sport... I am posting a link here to Nics C.V. available to anyone who is willing to find it;

http://www.nicdouglass.org/biography/

Disclaimer: I have only ever briefly met Nic once, but she comes from a place I have close family ties to, there aren't many world champions coming out of the Milton / Ulladulla area.

Maybe the detractors on here or elsewhere can post their sailing resume' next time..

 

Thanks mate x 

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22 minutes ago, Sidecar said:

Your “Royal” club and some others around the world use the plain blue ensign. Other “Royal” clubs in Oz and around the world use the defaced blue ensign, the defacement being unique to the club. Both types of ensign are issued to the vessel, but can only be applied for through the club. If you leave the “Royal” club, you must handover your ensign and pennant. And as you know, there are also prescribed rules of etiquette for using the ensign and pennant.

Been there, done it. Royal Channel Islands Yacht Club, defaced blue ensign.

 

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9 hours ago, jack_sparrow said:

Pretty sad but easily cured. Just put a cardboard cutout of this guy behind you for live feeds and all will be sweet. However how tempting it may be, don't put a Zik cap on him, that may diminish the message.

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So that’s what Cleans been up to. 

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7 hours ago, jack_sparrow said:

That then makes Randumb 00.01%. Is that a Xmas/New Year generosity overshoot statistic of yours Mad?

It was a very rare moment of goodwill, it won’t happen again. 

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5 hours ago, LB 15 said:

Just for the record, Randumb would lick his own dick if he could. Because he can’t he just licks the windows. Again congratulations WOXI on a magnificent win.

I didn’t think Random had windows in mums basement. 

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10 hours ago, random said:

 During an interview, when a face suddenly shows both eyes and teeth to the camera, we all involuntarily have to look at it,

Don’t mind Randumb Nic, he is not used to seeing girls with a full set of teeth. 

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14 hours ago, jack_sparrow said:

Actually I meant what I said and already explained in reply to Lion upthread. While majority of sats with AIS trancievers are low earth orbit (which explains the long ping interval), there are some geostationary at a lower altitude than most geostationary over select locations. They appear to be of the  low cost/shorter time stay up there variety for the reason Lion stats.  

Jeezuz!  Can't even get that right.

"Orbital stability. A geostationary orbit can be achieved only at an altitude very close to 35,786 km(22,236 mi) and directly above the equator.  All geostationary satellites have to be located on this ring."

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6 hours ago, LB 15 said:

Just for the record, Randumb would lick his own dick if he could. Because he can’t he just licks the windows. Again congratulations WOXI on a magnificent win.

Is it time to take the dog for another illegal shit on the National Park beach?  Taunt the Ranger with a barking dog?  BTW did you wave her down yesterday and call her a "lazy fat fuck" or do you only do that on the internet?

You are a casebook Richards supporter, fuck the rules, whatever is best for me me me.

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"These cheating and rule-breaking claims are easy to make, but it is not who we are."

"It was very dark and it was easy to get disorientated"

"We have been accused of something which simply never happened'

"I would have been happy to come fourth in the race! "

“We definitely did not turn it off, it was fried by the media equipment provided.

"We can very clearly prove that we had our AIS on for the entire race.

"We could see their lights perfectly, and we all knew exactly what was going on."

"We were all in sight of each other for the whole race and at night we were within two miles of each other.

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1 hour ago, frant said:

Ah resorting to name calling and abuse again. Yes the letter of assent to fly the Blue ensign is given to the “Yacht” upon application to the Queens representative by virtue of being on a Royal Yacht Club register. Maybe your club allows workboats on the register, don’t really care. But yes the Blue ensign that I choose to fly is defaced with the white stars of the Southern Cross!

Given that you are probably a person emanating an odour of off prawns yourself, and display your ignorance through your ramblings on the forums, I am not particularly concerned to have your respect or otherwise. My sailing CV is OK BTW.

You are an odd chap. When did I say my Jeanneau had a warrant to fly the blue ensign? Why is a charter yacht a prawn trawler? Didn’t ask about your sailing CV just how many S2H you have done and your answer is none which puts the endless drivel you have written about the race in perspective. Go play on your Laser with the blue ensign and leave discussions about offshore racing to those that have actually done it. And speaking of ignorant, You don’t need a warrant to fly the Australian civil ensign on a boat cupcake. That is not the Blue ensign you were wanking on about. You really should shut the fuck up now but you won’t be able to help yourself so play on.

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2 hours ago, random said:

Is it time to take the dog for another illegal shit on the National Park beach?  Taunt the Ranger with a barking dog?  BTW did you wave her down yesterday and call her a "lazy fat fuck" or do you only do that on the internet?

You are a casebook Richards supporter, fuck the rules, whatever is best for me me me.

Have you thought about seeing someone about your obsession? Or are you to busy editing your comments about sailor girl? 

Hey when are you going to tell MR he is a cheating cunt to his face? I might sell tickets. But I doubt he would bother swinging a punch a drugged out hippy in his 60’s. More than likely he would just laugh at you. Like we all do.

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Why has the Ed allowed  the sycophantic "I have sailed on the boat - unpaid" Blue Robinson crap on the home page. If that is the case then more fool he as all the other wonder boys of ocean racing he lists were getting PAID! And that's the problem. The AIS was not working. Richards acknowledged thus after the finish saying it was not required in the rules. They should have made a declaration when they finished. It is likely the race commitee relay boat also knew. So the RC should have protested. 

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9 minutes ago, LB 15 said:

Have you thought about seeing someone about your obsession? Or are you to busy editing your comments about sailor girl? 

Hey when are you going to tell MR he is a cheating cunt to his face? I might sell tickets. But I doubt he would bother swinging a punch a drugged out hippy in his 60’s. More than likely he would just laugh at you. Like we all do.

So did your dog shit on the beach today?  Did you see the Ranger and tell her she is  "lazy fat fuck"?

Tell us more about your practices of abusing the rules to suit yourself.  Then post pictures of the breach on the interweb!

No wonder you are a Richards fan boi, you admire people who take what they want for themselves and bugger the rest of you.

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13 minutes ago, winchfodder said:

Why has the Ed allowed  the sycophantic "I have sailed on the boat - unpaid" Blue Robinson crap on the home page. If that is the case then more fool he as all the other wonder boys of ocean racing he lists were getting PAID! And that's the problem. The AIS was not working. Richards acknowledged thus after the finish saying it was not required in the rules. They should have made a declaration when they finished. It is likely the race commitee relay boat also knew. So the RC should have protested. 

I think it would be categorised as 'balanced reporting'.  Sadly.

But the angle is predictable.  As you have pointed out, bleats of 'we are not cheats' are distractions from the real issue that is, it does not matter if it was deliberate or not.

The AIS Tx was not working.  Should have retired on being told that.

The infantile concept of "but but we didn't mean to do it, it was the mean and nasty technology that did it" is beyond belief at this level.

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56 minutes ago, frant said:

I suspect that this “confirmation” is never going to happen. Step outside of this forum and have a look at the situation. Those who believe and support WOXI already do, those who don’t are unlikely to be swayed and there are probably none that don’t have a foregone opinion already...

 

..Given that they can’t change the whole post race events why bother prolonging this issue. I could of course be proven wrong in a day or two.

 

You might need to rethink interest now is restricted to those contributing to this thread which btw has hit over 1,800 contributions in a week. There is obviously a lot of "read only" people with over 39,000 views.

As for there being only two WOXI views, those who support and those who do not support. That is nonsense. You forget the many that remain of a open mind, who I suspect out number the believers and non-believers combined.

You also seem to forgot that Richards has a demand for an apology from the RC still on the table. An apology he has sought based on him proving his claim.

As for your brain fart that Richards not delivering on his promise to provide evidence will prolong the issue? That evidence puts it to bed once and for all. You simply don't make any sense.

Of course we could all sit back and wait for next years race. Unfortunately coverage won't include any on board TV cameras as there is a unsubstainated claim their uplink fries onboard electronics.

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3 minutes ago, random said:

I think it would be categorised as 'balanced reporting'.  Sadly.

But the angle is predictable.  As you have pointed out, bleats of 'we are not cheats' are distractions from the real issue that is, it does not matter if it was deliberate or not.

The AIS Tx was not working.  Should have retired on being told that.

The infantile concept of "but but we didn't mean to do it, it was the mean and nasty technology that did it" is beyond belief at this level.

Agree completely.  Even Brad Butterworth reported the AIS was not working. They should have declared and taken a penalty or even retired. Too many peeps getting paid to win and so lose their perspective on sportsmanship and fair sailing. 

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Not reading anything since I left this thread, just to make a comment that's been sitting in my craw.

I am always amused how people think that if one rule doesn't take care of a situation, then some other rule will be the omnibus collect all rule that will get the result they want.  Some have suggested a RRS69.

Gotta tell you what, this will NEVER happen.  Here's why. 1. There's never been any hearing.  2. There has never been anything found (by judges obviously) that a rule has been broken.  3. There has been no finding of guilt. 4. There has been no testimony in a hearing to learn how this may have occurred.  Any judge would have to be insane to initiate a RRS69 without a rule having been broken with a result of DSQ or some other penalty.

If judges were to initiated a RRS69 hearing in a case like this they open themselves up to a libel, slander, defamation lawsuit.

You guys and gals gotta realize, this is over, its in the books, move onto something important in your lives.

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1 hour ago, Glenn McCarthy said:

I am always amused how people think that if one rule doesn't take care of a situation, then some other rule will be the omnibus collect all rule that will get the result they want.  Some have suggested a RRS69.

Quite correct.

1 hour ago, Glenn McCarthy said:

Gotta tell you what, this will NEVER happen.  Here's why. 1. There's never been any hearing.  2. There has never been anything found (by judges obviously) that a rule has been broken.  3. There has been no finding of guilt. 4. There has been no testimony in a hearing to learn how this may have occurred.  Any judge would have to be insane to initiate a RRS69 without a rule having been broken with a result of DSQ or some other penalty.

And if you had bothered to pull that rule quill out of your arse for a moment you would have read serious commentary here re Rule 69 was directed at these comments by Richards in an interview with editor of Sail-World.com Richard Gladwell, not the result on the water.

"The mistake that CYCA have made is that they have introduced AIS for the first time this year as a safety measure. The system is just not that accurate, it's flawed and has limited range (about 12nm). There are a whole lot of things that can affect AIS which can only transmit on a VHF frequency," Richards points out.

We think the Race Committee should make a public apology to us. We have been accused of something which simply never happened', says a still irate Richards.

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1 hour ago, frant said:

When did I say that the Jeanneau  did or didn’t have a warrant?  You of course with your inability to comprehend the written word would be in a position where everything I have written has sailed straight over your rednecked head!

your charter boat of course likened to a prawn trawler because of the smell, the prawn trawler it’s catch and the Jeanneau its owner. There are more offshore races, and indeed tougher offshore races around than the S2H of course so again your limited intellect shines brightly for all to see.

Ooh you are knowledgeable about maritime regulations aren’t you. I was totally unaware that a vessel with Australian registration was required to fly the Red ensign.

So why don’t you go back to your holidays in paradise then or can’t you help yourself either?

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Yep- couldn’t help yourself. Now what were you saying about ‘resorting to name calling’? So how come you haven’t done a Hobart? I mean for any Australian Offshore sailor it is a right of passage. Never been asked? To scared? To prone to sea sickness? To useless? All of the above? 

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4 minutes ago, woodruffkey said:

If Murray and Co roll up next year for another round then we can safely tar them all with the same brush.

Yes they must be shitting themselves worrying what an anonymous little oily toad like you thinks about them. 

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1 hour ago, random said:

So did your dog shit on the beach today?  Did you see the Ranger and tell her she is  "lazy fat fuck"?

Tell us more about your practices of abusing the rules to suit yourself.  Then post pictures of the breach on the interweb!

No wonder you are a Richards fan boi, you admire people who take what they want for themselves and bugger the rest of you.

Now now randy pansy settle petal. You may all swelled up with self importance because you think you have achieved some kind of celebrity status by posting the same shit over and over about MR but sadly you are still the same nobody you always were. Riddle me this- you claim you are more than willing to call the WOXI guys cheating cunts to their faces,  yet when Nic showed up in the thread you madly started editing your posts. 

YCMTSU. 

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24 minutes ago, EddyAllTime said:

I'm more surprised the Ed found it in his heart to publish Blue Robinson's comments on the FP given the amount of anti-WOXI sentiment expressed by the faggots in this forum.

WOXI won it. Move on.

What is conveniently forgotten by Robinson is this bonfire was started by Black Jack's Owner, Skipper and Tactician, no one else. Without their having a cry in front of the media no one would be the wiser. 

As for claims of cheating arising from that, it is restricted to a handfull of dumb cunts here and directed at only Richards. I have not sighted one post with Vila's name alongside that claim.

One of the reasons moving on is so difficult for some stems from public statements made by Richards between the finish last Friday and last Monday including a demand of an apology from the RC that is still on the table.

It would seem Mark Richards has not moved on, so why should everyone else?

http://sailinganarchy.com/2019/01/04/jaccuse/

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3 minutes ago, jack_sparrow said:

It would seem Mark Richards has not moved on, so why should everyone else?

Excellent question .

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11 minutes ago, woodruffkey said:

From the Misogynist CuNt who proudly post............      " The head ranger is a nazi but being a lazy fat fuck she drives her great big 4x4 along the beach at exactly the same time every day so we have been sitting in our dinghys just of the beach with our dogs and encouraging them to bark at her as she drives past."

 

Bwahahahahaha

 

Now that was good bait. You are the third little fish I have hooked with that post. And that is not counting the 6 bites Randumb has had. Anyway when did he create you? Just for this thread?

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19 minutes ago, LB 15 said:

Riddle me this- you claim you are more than willing to call the WOXI guys cheating cunts to their faces,  yet when Nic showed up in the thread you madly started editing your posts. 

If you have worked out how to edit posts after the 30 min limit, let me know, because I don't.  Making shit up as usual.

So how did it go with the "lazy fat fuck" women ranger?  Did she laugh, kick you in the nuts or pull the book out? 

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7 minutes ago, EddyAllTime said:

Yet funnily, i doubt any of you WOXI hating faggots would have the balls to front up to MR in person and call him a cheat. Nor would you have the balls to say it to any other crew members of WOXI.

Yes and in the absence of evidence they should be stuffed in a sugar bag and deep sixed at the 50 fathom line. Only one small bag will be needed though.

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1 hour ago, Glenn McCarthy said:

Not reading anything since I left this thread, just to make a comment that's been sitting in my craw.

My dear Glenn,

I would politely suggest you move over here:

https://www.sailingscuttlebutt.com/forum/     Enjoy!

Bye, and BTW, the definition of craw : "the stomach, especially of a lower animal."

 

 

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38 minutes ago, EddyAllTime said:

I'm more surprised the Ed found it in his heart to publish Blue Robinson's comments on the FP given the amount of anti-WOXI sentiment expressed by the faggots in this forum.

WOXI won it. Move on.

There are faggots here?

Look I'm really sorry you were abused in the shower block, so a little trick for the next time you find yourself in the Big House.

Get your family to supply strawberry jam and make sure everyone sees you putting it on your toast and they will leave you alone.  No one wants seeds stuck under their foreskin.

Worked for me anyway.

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1 minute ago, random said:

If you have worked out how to edit posts after the 30 min limit, let me know, because I don't.  Making shit up as usual.

So how did it go with the "lazy fat fuck" women ranger?  Did she laugh, kick you in the nuts or pull the book out? 

Haven’t seen her today. We take the dog into the beach at 5am- hours before she would have rolled her fat arse out of bed. We walk the beach, pick up as much rubbish as we can carry each day and bury her turds deep in the sand below the high tide mark. You see mate some rules are just plain stupid and are for the obedience of clowns like you, and for the guidance of wise men like me. Normally they are made up by lefty sheep who spend their lives wringing their hands in mock outrage. Like you in this thread. 

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22 minutes ago, hoppy said:

I was flying the red ensign in Greece and it confused the fuck out of everyone. Even some Aussies and plenty of British were confused.

That confusion may be genuine. I think the only time a pleasure vessel can fly the Australian red ensign is when it is on the national shipping register, which is a requirement for any Australian vessel leaving Australian waters. @LB 15 would know if otherwise.

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11 minutes ago, random said:

If you have worked out how to edit posts after the 30 min limit, let me know, because I don't.  Making shit up as usual.

 

You onviously did it with in the time limit. You have not looked away from this thread in 6 days after all. I see Nic also saw it and called you on it. Get some sleep mate. JS can take the next fanboy watch. 

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3 minutes ago, jack_sparrow said:

That confusion may be genuine. I think the only time a pleasure vessel can fly the Australian red ensign is when it is on the national shipping register, which is a requirement for any Australian vessel leaving Australian waters. @LB 15 would know if otherwise.

As I understand it an Australian registered ship must fly the red ensign, how ever a domestic recreational vessel can fly the Australian Maritime ensign, the Australian civil ensign or their state flag if they wish. Many Sydney boats fly the gay pride ensign and boats that have Hamilton island as their home port can do what ever they fucking like.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Fuck I love this place.

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4 minutes ago, VOA said:

Did Randy lodge his protest yet. He said he was going to

No he is just going to walk up to IM, MR, GB and SO and call them cheating cunts to their faces. That is how he rolls. He is the toughest motherfucker the internet has ever seen. 

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21 minutes ago, random said:

 

Worked for me anyway.

You should kiss that puckered arse of yours in thanks that you can’t go to jail for deformation. MR and the Oatleys might wind up owning that prickle farm of yours however. Not that they would want it. 

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8 minutes ago, LB 15 said:

You should kiss that puckered arse of yours in thanks that you can’t go to jail for deformation. MR and the Oatleys might wind up owning that prickle farm of yours however. Not that they would want it. 

Defamation relies on the claims being untrue.  I'm sure they would not want to examine the details of non-confirmation with the Rules of the Race.

Heading off to a piss-up.  Hopefully no one wants to talk about the S2H.