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OK, back it up - provide facts to support your silly assertions.  And get a freaking spell checker. Shit, you come across dumb enough without "centerded".  Does that go good with Hamberders?  Nev

These threads remind me of the disclaimers for investment schemes "past performance is not indicative of future results". Capitalism as we know it is maybe 150 years old and an artifact of the industr

One fact is that the wealth at the top is in the stratospheres and catastrophic.  The working class is losing out even as the economy has grown.  Greed has been glorified.  Certain protected classes l

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3 hours ago, Saorsa said:
3 hours ago, Steam Flyer said:

Most people prefer a government that is civilized. That was kind of the point of introducing democracy

 

I was not aware that democracies were any more civilized than any other form of government.

Generally when people have a say in how they are governed, they don't choose to be oppressed and brutalized.

This may be the key difference between normal, rational, people when given the rights and responsibilities of citizenship, and Republicans.

-DSK

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8 hours ago, Saorsa said:

I was not aware that democracies were any more civilized than any other form of government.

Your lack of awareness is noted.

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1 hour ago, Ishmael said:
8 hours ago, Saorsa said:

I was not aware that democracies were any more civilized than any other form of government.

 

Several theocracies spring to mind...

 

Yep, Iraq was kind of a failed experiment; but then they didn't have a lot of experience and they had a terrible example getting off the mark.

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Ray Dallio coming on CNBC just now.  Headlines are:

Capitalism needs to be reformed  it’s not working

a renewed focus on equal opportunity which is a fading dream for most Americans.  It’s a national emergency

we need to address our education system

we need to make  affordable access to healthcare for ALL Americans a priority.  In other words he’s embracing what I call cappysocialism, a hybrid socialism capitalism model.

 

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2 minutes ago, SailBlueH2O said:

I suggest you spend 6 months in any prison and come back and tell us how many shouldn't be there....

Don’t have to.  I look at incarceration rates amongst developed countries and ask myself who should we emulate?

CANADA!

so safely 2/3rds of them.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/300986/incarceration-rates-in-oecd-countries/

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13 hours ago, Steam Flyer said:

 

Yep, Iraq was kind of a failed experiment; but then they didn't have a lot of experience and they had a terrible example getting off the mark.

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-DSK

The United States has a terrible record, as do almost all colonial powers, in dealing with the aftermath of their meddling. Central America, which is the prime example of the effects of Manifest Destiny, and the Middle East are in the process of payback.  I see Trump's sticking his paw into the Golan Heights issue almost needlessly as being another thing that will bring about payback really quickly.

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5 minutes ago, Laker said:

The United States has a terrible record, as do almost all colonial powers, in dealing with the aftermath of their meddling. Central America, which is the prime example of the effects of Manifest Destiny, and the Middle East are in the process of payback.  I see Trump's sticking his paw into the Golan Heights issue almost needlessly as being another thing that will bring about payback really quickly.

dumbphuck....the US has never been a colonial power

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16 minutes ago, SailBlueH2O said:

ignorant fool....

I guess France was never a colonial power because there is a representative of Tahiti in their Legislature.  It is the same argument. 

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The Philippines were an American colony that we took from the Spanish. It had been a Spanish colony. We didn't grant them their freedom. We colonized them.

Cuba was an American colony.

The UN said we should probably decolonize the US Virgin Islands. It's a colony.

The American Colonization Society (ACS) encouraged free blacks to emigrate to Haiti. So maybe we should call Haiti a former colony.

American Samoa is an unincorporated territory of the United States. It's a colony.

Et cetera.

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2 minutes ago, Mismoyled Jiblet. said:

Philippines were also scene of the bloodiest battle on US soil - the retaking of Manilla in 1945. 100k+ civilians died, mostly from US shelling and bombing.

That's is what it took...and Philippines has never been US soil....sick mofo !

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3 hours ago, SailBlueH2O said:

I suggest you spend 6 months in any prison and come back and tell us how many shouldn't be there....

I suggest you take a look at the US corrections system..... starting with the name, who the hell dreamed that up...... and tell us how wonderful and effective it is.

Look that actual real world, not gaze into your bellybutton and regurgitate all that prejudice and wishful thinking.

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4 minutes ago, Steam Flyer said:

I suggest you take a look at the US corrections system..... starting with the name, who the hell dreamed that up...... and tell us how wonderful and effective it is.

Look that actual real world, not gaze into your bellybutton and regurgitate all that prejudice and wishful thinking.

-DSK

Spend a month in any state prison , I'll give your soft azz 5 months less than fakenoise....and then tell me how many don't belong locked up....there are bad bad people...

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5 minutes ago, Steam Flyer said:

Somebody needs to learn a little history

-DSK

LOL...the colonial system was a one way valve all $$$$$$ flowing toward the ruling country....quite the opposite is true your lame comparison, when in fact in the cases you use as American colonialism  ...the money flowed from the USA to the "colony"....weak..weak..weak 

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1 minute ago, SailBlueH2O said:
11 minutes ago, Steam Flyer said:

Somebody needs to learn a little history

 

LOL...the colonial system was a one way valve all $$$$$$ flowing toward the ruling country....quite the opposite is true your lame comparison, when in fact in the cases you use as American colonialism  ...the money flowed from the USA to the "colony"....weak..weak..weak 

"MY" examples?

I'm not sure what kind of drugs you're on today, but this is worse than usual. The above comment was the first time I have commented on colonialism, and it seems more justified than ever. You have a lot to unlearn about US history.

One nice thing though, to feel that the US has generally been the 'good guy' in international transactions..... however there was certainly a powerful faction in politics that was blatantly in favor of imperialism and taking colonies.... there still is, actually. I take it that you are against this faction. A bit of a surprise given your political leanings

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5 minutes ago, Steam Flyer said:

"MY" examples?

I'm not sure what kind of drugs you're on today, but this is worse than usual. The above comment was the first time I have commented on colonialism, and it seems more justified than ever. You have a lot to unlearn about US history.

One nice thing though, to feel that the US has generally been the 'good guy' in international transactions..... however there was certainly a powerful faction in politics that was blatantly in favor of imperialism and taking colonies.... there still is, actually. I take it that you are against this faction. A bit of a surprise given your political leanings

-DSK

You are hopelessly lost...lost to communist brainwashing 

 

 

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2 minutes ago, SailBlueH2O said:
7 minutes ago, Steam Flyer said:

One nice thing though, to feel that the US has generally been the 'good guy' in international transactions..... however there was certainly a powerful faction in politics that was blatantly in favor of imperialism and taking colonies.... there still is, actually. I take it that you are against this faction. A bit of a surprise given your political leanings

 

You are hopelessly lost...lost to communist brainwashing 

Yeah, it started way way back when I learned to read

So, you gonna make a bold statement that you're against US imperialism?

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I will. Too bad we don't have a man like Teddy to vote for today!

-DSK

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Just now, Steam Flyer said:

Yeah, it started way way back when I learned to read

So, you gonna make a bold statement that you're against US imperialism?

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I will. Too bad we don't have a man like Teddy to vote for today!

-DSK

Don't use big words like colonialism and imperialism out of context ....now  please explain Teddy Roosevelt and the US as imperialists/ LOL....you are weak 

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6 minutes ago, Steam Flyer said:

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I will. Too bad we don't have a man like Teddy to vote for today!

 

Don't use big words like colonialism and imperialism out of context ....now  please explain Teddy Roosevelt and the US as imperialists/ LOL....you are weak 

I gotta go back to work on the boat, but will explain a little.

There have always been fat cats making money from poorer weaker neighbors. This is basically what "imperialism" means, when a government devotes it's resources including military to enabling it's fat cat supporters to this.

Teddy (a product of his times) loved the glory of war but hated imperialism. The above picture is kind of a paradox of the man. He was despised by most of the more wealthy politically motivated people of his time, because he made it far more difficult for them to line their own pockets at the expense of others..... even poor weak furriners.

There you go, a little "brainwashing" or as some would call it, a glimpse of reality.

-DSK

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1 minute ago, Steam Flyer said:

I gotta go back to work on the boat, but will explain a little.

There have always been fat cats making money from poorer weaker neighbors. This is basically what "imperialism" means, when a government devotes it's resources including military to enabling it's fat cat supporters to this.

Teddy (a product of his times) loved the glory of war but hated imperialism. The above picture is kind of a paradox of the man. He was despised by most of the more wealthy politically motivated people of his time, because he made it far more difficult for them to line their own pockets at the expense of others..... even poor weak furriners.

There you go, a little "brainwashing" or as some would call it, a glimpse of reality.

-DSK

Curious...do you use Apple products ?...because that is a good example of the reach you are trying to make

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I realize few watch John Oliver "Last Week Tonight", sadly as it is an excellent show and he uses humor to keep it interesting. Last night the main subject was mobile homes. A racket and the big one? Large companies buying up the mobile parks - why you ask? Because mobile homes depreciate and will fall apart if moved again so the poor people who bought them (at chattel mortgage rates) have a home with declining value so can't sell it and can't move.

The perfect opportunity to buy up these properties and then start raising the rent.  Check out https://www.mobilehomeuniversity.com/  on how to get really wealthy. This is the "free markets free people" bullshit at it's best. 

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Look up the meaning of banana republic or the overthrow of Chilean government to protect  US mining interests and tell me there was no US Imperialism wasn't the Philipines a US procession. Have any of you conversed with locals in USVI  about the US control there? 

 

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1 hour ago, SailBlueH2O said:
1 hour ago, Steam Flyer said:

There have always been fat cats making money from poorer weaker neighbors. This is basically what "imperialism" means, when a government devotes it's resources including military to enabling it's fat cat supporters to this.

Teddy (a product of his times) loved the glory of war but hated imperialism. The above picture is kind of a paradox of the man. He was despised by most of the more wealthy politically motivated people of his time, because he made it far more difficult for them to line their own pockets at the expense of others..... even poor weak furriners.

There you go, a little "brainwashing" or as some would call it, a glimpse of reality.

 

Curious...do you use Apple products ?...because that is a good example of the reach you are trying to make

You mean like Apple locking people in it's Chinese factories and keeping them in conditions so poor that they have a worker suicide problem?

That would be sorta kinda close to an example but it would require US gov't intervention on Apple's behalf for it to be "imperialism" that we were talking about.

And no, I do not currently own/use any Apple products currently, although it's not mainly a matter of moral objection to Apple. They just don't sell anything I like enough to pay for...... an example of the free market at work

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3 hours ago, SailBlueH2O said:

That's is what it took...and Philippines has never been US soil....sick mofo !

http://www.philippine-history.org/independence-from-americans.htm

https://www.encyclopedia.com/history/encyclopedias-almanacs-transcripts-and-maps/philippine-war

What is worse, we haven't reformed.   American Samoa are US nationals, not even US citizens.  The pacific islands (aside from Hawaii), Puerto Rico and US Virgin Islands have no representation, just taxation.  We absolutely need to offer the islands, historic colonies, statehood.   Its a disgrace we don't give them rights to vote for President and voting members of congress.   

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, Steam Flyer said:

You mean like Apple locking people in it's Chinese factories and keeping them in conditions so poor that they have a worker suicide problem?

That would be sorta kinda close to an example but it would require US gov't intervention on Apple's behalf for it to be "imperialism" that we were talking about.

And no, I do not currently own/use any Apple products currently, although it's not mainly a matter of moral objection to Apple. They just don't sell anything I like enough to pay for...... an example of the free market at work

-DSK

Economic imperialism can be based on pretty shifting sands.  Do you shop at Walmart?  Buy anything made by Huawei or Samsung?  How about Foxconn?  Where are your clothes made?  It's impossible to get on a high horse and pontificate if you purchase anything from an Asian factory or a mega-box retailer.  

Morality, Prices, Quality...Seems you can two out of three.  We seem to have given up on morality, and can be seduced to give up quality if the price is low enough.

 

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1 hour ago, Steam Flyer said:

And no, I do not currently own/use any Apple products currently, although it's not mainly a matter of moral objection to Apple. They just don't sell anything I like enough to pay for...... an example of the free market at work

 

Economic imperialism can be based on pretty shifting sands.  Do you shop at Walmart?  Buy anything made by Huawei or Samsung?  How about Foxconn?  Where are your clothes made?  It's impossible to get on a high horse and pontificate if you purchase anything from an Asian factory or a mega-box retailer.  

Morality, Prices, Quality...Seems you can two out of three.  We seem to have given up on morality, and can be seduced to give up quality if the price is low enough.

Not getting on any high horses.... or at least, I hope not

Just tryin' to 'splain something to SBh2o

I thought the photo of Teddy was a good touch

-DSK

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9 minutes ago, Steam Flyer said:

Not getting on any high horses.... or at least, I hope not

Just tryin' to 'splain something to SBh2o

I thought the photo of Teddy was a good touch

-DSK

It saddens me to know this is how you feel about the USA

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2 minutes ago, SailBlueH2O said:
13 minutes ago, Steam Flyer said:

Not getting on any high horses.... or at least, I hope not

Just tryin' to 'splain something to SBh2o

I thought the photo of Teddy was a good touch

It saddens me to know this is how you feel about the USA

 

???

WTF are you mumbling about now?

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13 hours ago, d'ranger said:

I realize few watch John Oliver "Last Week Tonight", sadly as it is an excellent show and he uses humor to keep it interesting. Last night the main subject was mobile homes. A racket and the big one? Large companies buying up the mobile parks - why you ask? Because mobile homes depreciate and will fall apart if moved again so the poor people who bought them (at chattel mortgage rates) have a home with declining value so can't sell it and can't move.

The perfect opportunity to buy up these properties and then start raising the rent.  Check out https://www.mobilehomeuniversity.com/  on how to get really wealthy. This is the "free markets free people" bullshit at it's best. 

Hah! Do you know anyone who has actually done this?

I do. Buying a mobile home park and then just raising the rent isn't a path to riches. They're poor, not stupid, and they have options. Leaving the POS as your disposal problem among them.

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2 hours ago, Importunate Tom said:

Hah! Do you know anyone who has actually done this?

I do. Buying a mobile home park and then just raising the rent isn't a path to riches. They're poor, not stupid, and they have options. Leaving the POS as your disposal problem among them.

Me personally? No, but either it is happening on Oliver got a bunch of actors to pretend to be tenants and lie. I have been in a number of mobile parks and they vary from all being the POS type to mostly newer units. If you are buying where they are mostly POS then, well, you know.  LWT is imo worth watching - in that program he also skewered the mayor of Baltimore and Trump's picks for the Fed.

Google seems to find some data on the issue

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7 minutes ago, d'ranger said:

Me personally? No, but either it is happening on Oliver got a bunch of actors to pretend to be tenants and lie. I have been in a number of mobile parks and they vary from all being the POS type to mostly newer units. If you are buying where they are mostly POS then, well, you know.  LWT is imo worth watching - in that program he also skewered the mayor of Baltimore and Trump's picks for the Fed.

Google seems to find some data on the issue

My friend makes pretty good money in mobiles but could not if he and his dad were not also a construction company.

The fact that they depreciate is, as I said, a double edged sword and is the main reason I don't want them as rentals. If they truly can't be moved, they're very close to being a disposal problem, not an asset. They have to be really old POS's to be immobile, though.

There's real money to be made for the same reason as usual: it's risky and difficult and more than possible to lose your ass.

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18 minutes ago, Importunate Tom said:

My friend makes pretty good money in mobiles but could not if he and his dad were not also a construction company.

The fact that they depreciate is, as I said, a double edged sword and is the main reason I don't want them as rentals. If they truly can't be moved, they're very close to being a disposal problem, not an asset. They have to be really old POS's to be immobile, though.

There's real money to be made for the same reason as usual: it's risky and difficult and more than possible to lose your ass.

The smart money buys the right properties, the others pay the flim flam guys like MHU to show them how. When you pay someone to show you how to make money you will probably lose - Real Estate always seems ripe for the picking, this would be no different.  The smart money are very large corporations, not your run of the mill investor who won't have the cash for the prime parks.   The USA has some 20 million mobile homes (which aren't mobile) so YMMV. 

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22 minutes ago, d'ranger said:

The smart money are very large corporations, not your run of the mill investor who won't have the cash for the prime parks.

I have time to talk to you because my father and grandfather, both pretty run of the mill, went around watching for big companies in distant locations doing stupid shit without eyes on the ground.

The manager is the most important person in a park. A corporation might or might not hire a good one. An individual probably is the manager and might or might not be good at it. Whether big company or individual success or failure will depend on who is actually there dealing with the people.

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12 hours ago, Mismoyled Jiblet. said:

:lol: the scientist who can't read a fucking graph. They are up negligibly.

~10 1/2% is negligible? Is that good or bad?

Spread over >40 years?

You can actually do simple math, right? Well then how come you won't?

-DSK

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14 minutes ago, Steam Flyer said:

Spread over >40 years?

You can actually do simple math, right? Well then how come you won't?

-DSK

So an employee now is doing better than an employee in the 1960s is not acceptable?  Please tell us how much better an employee should now be doing. 10% isn't  good enough? 20%, 30%? 70%?

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29 minutes ago, Importunate Tom said:

I have time to talk to you because my father and grandfather, both pretty run of the mill, went around watching for big companies in distant locations doing stupid shit without eyes on the ground.

The manager is the most important person in a park. A corporation might or might not hire a good one. An individual probably is the manager and might or might not be good at it. Whether big company or individual success or failure will depend on who is actually there dealing with the people.

If you watch his show or read some of the links in the google page I provided you would see that what is happening (it starts with how mobile homes are marketed) is a plan to fleece the poor and uneducated. That isn't a good thing. It flies in the face of "big government" and helps keep the poor more so while the wealthy get more so.

Income inequality - it is an issue and history shows if it continues long enough does not end well.  The above is just an example of why good government is a requirement for a successful society.

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2 minutes ago, d'ranger said:

If you watch his show or read some of the links in the google page I provided you would see that what is happening (it starts with how mobile homes are marketed) is a plan to fleece the poor and uneducated. That isn't a good thing. It flies in the face of "big government" and helps keep the poor more so while the wealthy get more so.

Income inequality - it is an issue and history shows if it continues long enough does not end well.  The above is just an example of why good government is a requirement for a successful society.

How does keeping the poor poor help keep the wealthy wealthy?  

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37 minutes ago, Steam Flyer said:

Spread over >40 years?

You can actually do simple math, right? Well then how come you won't?

 

So an employee now is doing better than an employee in the 1960s is not acceptable?  Please tell us how much better an employee should now be doing. 10% isn't  good enough? 20%, 30%? 70%?

What did I say?

Can you read what I wrote? Can you do math? If you cannot do simple math, that kind of shoot holes in your claim to be a scientist...... I can see why you REFUSE to do simple math, because -that- shoots holes in your political ideals. How did you get into this awkward position? Maybe a small amount of thinking about your politics is in order?

Supposedly the "free market" system provides freedom and benefits to those who participate..... "workers" are doing just that, by definition. How much benefit should they get? 10% spread out over 40+ years?

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6 minutes ago, Steam Flyer said:

Supposedly the "free market" system provides freedom and benefits to those who participate..... "workers" are doing just that, by definition. How much benefit should they get? 10% spread out over 40+ years?

-DSK

However much they can earn.

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1 minute ago, d'ranger said:

Income Inequality

Climate Change

Name 2 things the RW pretends doesn't exist or if it does is not a problem. 

Neither is a problem.  

How does it hurt you if Ellen keeps doing her show providing desired entertainment to millions of people?  Should we stop her because it just makes income inequality worse?

Climate change is greening the Earth, causing huge increases in agricultural output, and reducing the number of environment related human deaths.  Win-fucking-win.

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13 minutes ago, SailBlueH2O said:

define ....

Income Inequality

Climate Change

Why? You subscribe to the alternate reality where facts only come from your approved sources.  Irony - those 2 are the elephant in the room and the GOP uses the elephant. YCMTSU.

But just for shits and giggles: The top 1% control more wealth than the bottom 90%, the climate is changing faster than any time in history.  In your world those are Communist Conspiracies.

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Why? You subscribe to the alternate reality where facts only come from your approved sources.  Irony - those 2 are the elephant in the room and the GOP uses the elephant. YCMTSU.

But just for shits and giggles: The top 1% control more wealth than the bottom 90%, the climate is changing faster than any time in history.  In your world those are Communist Conspiracies.

BS....

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2 minutes ago, d'ranger said:

Why? You subscribe to the alternate reality where facts only come from your approved sources.  Irony - those 2 are the elephant in the room and the GOP uses the elephant. YCMTSU.

But just for shits and giggles: The top 1% control more wealth than the bottom 90%, the climate is changing faster than any time in history.  In your world those are Communist Conspiracies.

Your facts are not facts.  What do you count as "history?"  Human history?  Then your fact is meaningless.

I cited facts.  The Earth has more plants than 30 years ago by number and volume.  Lots.  Agricultural output per acre has increased dramatically.  China has doubled its yield/acre since 1980.  Human deaths as a result of the environment are much lower and have been steadily declining since 1800.

How is income inequality bad?

How is the current climate bad?

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1 minute ago, d'ranger said:

Here is a fact: You can't fix stupid.   as Eva Dent.

Which is why no matter how hard we try, there will always be a large group of very gullible people that will believe in made up "crisis" that can only be fixed if you hand power to a certain group of politicians.  

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2 hours ago, Steam Flyer said:

What did I say?

Can you read what I wrote? Can you do math? If you cannot do simple math, that kind of shoot holes in your claim to be a scientist...... I can see why you REFUSE to do simple math, because -that- shoots holes in your political ideals. How did you get into this awkward position? Maybe a small amount of thinking about your politics is in order?

Supposedly the "free market" system provides freedom and benefits to those who participate..... "workers" are doing just that, by definition. How much benefit should they get? 10% spread out over 40+ years?

-DSK

Are you suggesting that workers 40+ years ago were not getting a benefit for their labors?  You commented on my comment that labor is ~10% more valuable 40 years later. I asked if that was good or bad. You don't  need to be oblique. 

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What we see at work here is the irrationalism of the modern US Reich . . 

They deflect and deny basic facts of economic reality. 

Interestingly however, if you compare Hitler's speeches (as in Triumph of the Will, for example) to Trump's rambling inanities, 

Hitler comes across as quite a bit less irrational. 

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2 minutes ago, AJ Oliver said:

What we see at work here is the irrationalism of the modern US Reich . . 

They deflect and deny basic facts of economic reality. 

Interestingly however, if you compare Hitler's speeches (as in Triumph of the Will, for example) to Trump's rambling inanities, 

Hitler comes across as quite a bit less irrational. 

Can you make a case for anything?  Or are you just drooling on yourself?

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2 minutes ago, AJ Oliver said:

What we see at work here is the irrationalism of the modern US Reich . . 

They deflect and deny basic facts of economic reality. 

Interestingly however, if you compare Hitler's speeches (as in Triumph of the Will, for example) to Trump's rambling inanities, 

Hitler comes across as quite a bit less irrational. 

LOL....goofy old professor...

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26 minutes ago, d'ranger said:

Here is a fact: You can't fix stupid.   as Eva Dent.

Reading stupid shit posted by these right-wing morons will kill off any remaining brain cells.

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1 minute ago, Ishmael said:

Reading stupid shit posted by these right-wing morons will kill off any remaining brain cells.

Can you make a case for why income inequality is bad?  Does it hurt you that friends re-runs continue to be in demand?  Should we destroy them to prevent income inequality?

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1 hour ago, jzk said:

Can you make a case for why income inequality is bad?  Does it hurt you that friends re-runs continue to be in demand?  Should we destroy them to prevent income inequality?

www.inequity.org

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50 minutes ago, Laker said:

www.inequity.org

A domain for sale?  Great.   Do you have a case to make for something?

Why does the running of friends re-runs hurt you?  How does it hurt poor people?

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Did any of you Reichista punks ever see The Triumph of the Will

You must know a lot about it since you commented on the post that mentioned it .  . 

What did you think about it ? 

(To the rest of ya - don't hold your breath waiting for a lucid response) 

BTW, the director of that doco, Ms. Leni Riefenstahl, also did a film about the 1936 Olympics, which featured Star sailing. 

Later, she did time in prison for her role in promoting Hitler - take heed you other little Reichistas. 

Triumph is just about the most chilling thing you will ever see 

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7 minutes ago, AJ Oliver said:

Did any of you Reichista punks ever see The Triumph of the Will

You must know a lot about it since you commented on the post that mentioned it .  . 

What did you think about it ? 

(To the rest of ya - don't hold your breath waiting for a lucid response) 

BTW, the director of that doco, Ms. Leni Riefenstahl, also did a film about the 1936 Olympics, which featured Star sailing. 

Later, she did time in prison for her role in promoting Hitler - take heed you other little Reichistas. 

Triumph is just about the most chilling thing you will ever see 

I will check it out.  

Hitler was certainly very bad.  Who here is advocating a strong, authoritarian government that controls every aspect of the lives of the citizens?

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1 hour ago, jzk said:

A domain for sale?  Great.   Do you have a case to make for something?

Why does the running of friends re-runs hurt you?  How does it hurt poor people?

sorry, www.inequality.org

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1 hour ago, AJ Oliver said:

Did any of you Reichista punks ever see The Triumph of the Will

You must know a lot about it since you commented on the post that mentioned it .  . 

What did you think about it ? 

(To the rest of ya - don't hold your breath waiting for a lucid response) 

BTW, the director of that doco, Ms. Leni Riefenstahl, also did a film about the 1936 Olympics, which featured Star sailing. 

Later, she did time in prison for her role in promoting Hitler - take heed you other little Reichistas. 

Triumph is just about the most chilling thing you will ever see 

 

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7 hours ago, warbird said:

So an employee now is doing better than an employee in the 1960s is not acceptable?  Please tell us how much better an employee should now be doing. 10% isn't  good enough? 20%, 30%? 70%?

Should be somewhere around the growth in productivity.

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1 hour ago, Raz'r said:

Should be somewhere around the growth in productivity.

Why? It can be argued that productivity is tied to the capital investment by the owners in automation. Why would a middle class job of 2019 be worth more than a middleclass job of 1964?

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