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Yes there is no doubt Alex has a thing for hitting things.! Is it the Thomson curse or is just plain bad luck? He is a renowned boat breaker. Another setback for the ATR campaign and whilst you can't write him off for the Vendee I think we are looking at the 2 favorites leading at the moment in Charal and Apivia. Not sure what they will be able to take from this race if at all anything. They didn't really get a chance to compare their boat to the leaders. Didn't Alex break his new boat in a lead up race last time and it had to get strengthened? It's always great to see an Englishman competing in a French World but the Vendee may remain elusive to Alex and his team unless the curse is eradicated.! :D

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On 11/3/2019 at 4:09 AM, Herman said:

My conclusion; only an alien can get AT on that podium by zapping him there.

Where have you been Herman, I've been worried about you. Did the aliens just send you back to earth?

On 11/3/2019 at 4:33 AM, spennig said:

Sorry, the alien's too busy at the moment, trying to do the same for Mr Boris Johnson.

He seems immune, way to thick skinned.

On 11/3/2019 at 4:58 AM, troll99 said:

Actually AT is comrade of the alien. You never know with AT. 

You guys should not have made fun of the aliens, you see what can happen. Or maybe it's just Alex being  unlucky, again.

For now the biggest concern will be how to save the boat, with or without keel. Don't know why so many of you are worried about the crew though. That may be very considerate, but really, they did not suddenly capsize and they are now prepared for the worst and will have all the survival and safety gear you can imagine, they are sailing in warm waters anyway, and this are two tough old bastards that have seen it all before. Mind you, I am not saying they are not in any danger, they always are, but don't exaggerate it.

4 hours ago, yl75 said:

Quick response by Voiles et Voiliers, and with Guillemot they got some great insights indeed, like:

2 hours ago, troll99 said:

interesting re dropping mast. Sounds logical. So at the moment they sail with storm sail?

As Guillemot says himself, that sounds rather radical, but might save the boat. He also says that the question remains how much damage the keel will do when it goes on a rampage, hanging on just the hydraulic rams. Hard to see how they could stabilize that, as they say in the Boss' communique. They may need to jettison the keel too, after the mast. But that might be easier said then done, unless it is premature ejaculated, after the mast has come (off).

Not the right time for jokes really, we can only hope that they will save most of this beautiful boat !!!

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6 hours ago, staysail said:

There is still a TJV race going on (This thread) and Hugo Bos is no longer racing.  How about keeping all the Hugo Boss posts in the Hugo Boss thread?

This is happening in the TJV, you know. We are all here in this thread, no posts in the Boss thread for 2 days.

It's no doubt the most exciting thing in the race at the moment, so what's your problem.

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11 minutes ago, Fiji Bitter said:

Not the right time for jokes really, we can only hope that they will save most of this beautiful boat !!!

Beautifull agree and certainly revolutionary... this authentic piece of art can't be losed in the Atlantic

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One year time is now little time to rebuild it and perform for the VG2020

Back In the race with the downwind Trades, 

Rouyant in Advens almost hitting the 500miles/24hr

450miles for Enright Bidegorry in 11th Hour Racing (old HB) at the front pack

Chase hammerdown the SteelBull till the doldrums

Very exciting race so far

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1 minute ago, Kenny Dumas said:

We can still talk about HB2. Charlie’s taking miles out of the leaders 

Good to see that!  Maybe they can sell their boat back to the Boss, at double the price. They were gone build new for the TOR anyway.

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47 minutes ago, Fiji Bitter said:

This is happening in the TJV, you know. We are all here in this thread, no posts in the Boss thread for 2 days.

It's no doubt the most exciting thing in the race at the moment, so what's your problem.

Disappointment? I can understand that.

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1 hour ago, Rafael said:

Beautifull agree and certainly revolutionary... this authentic piece of art can't be losed in the Atlantic

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One year time is now little time to rebuild it and perform for the VG2020

Back In the race with the downwind Trades, 

Rouyant in Advens almost hitting the 500miles/24hr

450miles for Enright Bidegorry in 11th Hour Racing (old HB) at the front pack

Chase hammerdown the SteelBull till the doldrums

Very exciting race so far

compared to the work they had to do last time this is nothing.

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So is he suggesting cutting the mast? How can they drop it on the boat if needed? Last up[date said after hours of trying to stabilize the keel the decision has been made to rest. They are tired but in no immediate danger

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32 minutes ago, Kenny Dumas said:

MacGuyver would make a couple pontoons out of the life raft, lash them to the foils, jettison the keel and win the race 

Alex is well drilled at being on a stuffed Imoca boat, structural problems, keel problems, foil problems, the list goes on. He's no MacGuyver though. He will have all the advise he needs and one big advantage this time...... There are 2 people on the boat.................!!!!!!

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Looks like their moving under control in the right direction now......

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2 hours ago, Sailbydate said:

Disappointment? I can understand that.

You mean Staysail is disappointed? He is not an Alex fan, you know that. Alex did not get coached in France for keel failure management. Big disadvantage ;)

 

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Maybe blame the French world-view of RTW sailing that’s probably 3 decades behind the current developments in AI & forward facing sonar/Lidar etc?

AI in cars make thousands of decisions in real time to avoid hitting dozens of objects coming from all directions.   Cruising boats (like a well appointed Amel 50 ) have forward sonar giving them nearly 100 meters scans of what’s ahead.

Couple the two together and skippers sleep better & crank the boats up even harder for more thrills and less spills.

Am I missing something here?

 

https://www.yachtingworld.com/practical-cruising/forward-facing-sonar-122919 hi

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12 minutes ago, Fiji Bitter said:

Yes, common sense, but let's not go there... :P

Common sense?   Seriously,  sponsors pony up big bucks for Hugo Boss and here we go again?    AT looks like he’s lost 20-30 pds since last VG and he’s under more pressure to win something - anything at this point.  

How much more can he do with a massive machine like that which will kick his ass mentally in the next VG?  
 

Forget the speed records , finish the damn race.   Change the technology.

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Entire page 9 and a European night and only two posts on SA about those still contesting the TJV! Thanks Sailbydate and Kenny. (SA used to be the go to place for race news, ahead of actual organisers websites, but not so for this one).

And the race is really hotting up as the leaders get to the Cape Verdes and weight up whether to press on west, where the best possibility of a fast crossing of the ITCZ seems to be, at thye expense of speed now, or sail a hotter angle in the lighter, 10 to 14 knot winds. Also position changing within the top ten and the fatster boats fromthe western group now making some progress.

For me too, Charlie and Clarisse's boats most impressive. Arkea making progress too.

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1 hour ago, blunderfull said:

Maybe blame the French world-view of RTW sailing that’s probably 3 decades behind the current developments in AI & forward facing sonar/Lidar etc?

AI in cars make thousands of decisions in real time to avoid hitting dozens of objects coming from all directions.   Cruising boats (like a well appointed Amel 50 ) have forward sonar giving them nearly 100 meters scans of what’s ahead.

Couple the two together and skippers sleep better & crank the boats up even harder for more thrills and less spills.

Am I missing something here?

 

https://www.yachtingworld.com/practical-cruising/forward-facing-sonar-122919 hi

So, at 25 knots that gives them 7 seconds to cover that 100 metres.  What the fuck can they do in that time?  You would barely even have time to register that there is an issue. Even worse if you are on your pilot asleep.  FFS get real.

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1 hour ago, blunderfull said:

Maybe blame the French world-view of RTW sailing that’s probably 3 decades behind the current developments in AI & forward facing sonar/Lidar etc?

AI in cars make thousands of decisions in real time to avoid hitting dozens of objects coming from all directions.   Cruising boats (like a well appointed Amel 50 ) have forward sonar giving them nearly 100 meters scans of what’s ahead.

Couple the two together and skippers sleep better & crank the boats up even harder for more thrills and less spills.

Am I missing something here?

 

https://www.yachtingworld.com/practical-cruising/forward-facing-sonar-122919 hi

Not this shit again!  

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VMG  and heading in the last hour among the leading group, to see who is doing what in the champagne sailing conditions,

Charal             18.0    174
Apivia              17.8    178
Initiatives      17.4    206
11th Hour     17.3    183
Newrest         17.3    202
PRB                 16.9    186
Arkea              16.8    192
BP                    15.4    192
Corum            14.0    192
Apicil               13.2    207

Beware the wind shadow of the Cape Verdes

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3 hours ago, Priscilla said:

Crikey that would put a ripple or two in your muesli smacking into a submerged object whilst hurtling along at 25 knots.

Bloody strong yacht to not have it’s entire bottom destroyed.

Not strong enough though. Worrying that the OD keel pin can't cope with this. It should be able to.

3 hours ago, Kenny Dumas said:

I suppose two hydraulic rams attached to the rotator so the keel might be hanging from a decent single point rather than bashing around?  Otherwise it’s pretty tough to rest on top of a carbon shredding machine. 

Only one hydraulic ram and a "peg leg" solution on the other side that can be used to lock the fin if the ram fails. Not sure how useful that will be in this situation. I suspect that this will be a pretty complicated repair and a shame that it will eat into their prep time for the VG significantly. 

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HB got rid of the keel...

From TJV website:

Hugo Boss update after being forced to withdraw from the race on Sunday

Ross Daniel, Technical Director at Alex Thomson Racing, said:

“Last night Alex and Neal were both able to get some rest onboard HUGO BOSS. In the early hours of this morning the skippers resumed their attempts to stabilise the keel.

“Despite their very best efforts, it became clear that keeping the keel attached would put the boat at great risk. With the keel attached only by the hydraulic ram, and in an unstable position, there was a serious risk of significant damage to the hull. 

“We did everything that we could to preserve the keel but collectively we determined that it was far too dangerous to keep it in place. 

“Therefore, with guidance from our team shore-side, Alex and Neal set about cutting the hydraulic ram to free the keel from the boat. After many hours, they were successful in their efforts and the keel is now no longer attached to the boat. 

“Alex and Neal have filled the ballast tanks onboard and fully extended the foils in order to keep the boat as stable as possible. They are currently in light winds and a slight sea state, and we are comfortable that there is no immediate risk to the boat or the skippers. 

“The next step is for us to put together the best possible strategy to bring the boat slowly and safely to port. We are currently exploring various options and will provide an update in due course”.

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The last hour's average speeds and course for the leading group now showing PRB as the fastest

PRB                 19.5    186
Initiatives      19.0    196
Charal             18.1    178
11th Hour     18.5    183
BP                    17.6   195
Arkea              16.8    192
Apicil               16.2    217  (includes a gybe to get west)
Newrest         15.9    203
Corum            15.7    209

A lot of hand steering going on I imagine. Not easy work.

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"Advens for cybersecurity" from Ruyant / Koch are coming back to the front as bullet (140 Nm gain on leaders in 24 hours and around 520 Nm in 24 hours) ..... New IMOCA in training for VG 2020.... Impressive 

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23 minutes ago, JMore said:

HB got rid of the keel...

From TJV website:

 

“Therefore, with guidance from our team shore-side, Alex and Neal set about cutting the hydraulic ram to free the keel from the boat. After many hours, they were successful in their efforts and the keel is now no longer attached to the boat. 

Doubt they needed any guidance from the shore team - Neal is the smartest of them all and been there and done that ten times over :)  And a qualified NA.

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Charal and Apivia still clear leaders just but Charlie fastest now, last hour's averages kts VMG and course

11th Hour     21.1    183
Apivia             20.4    177
Initiatives      19.6    190
Charal             19.2    187
PRB                 18.4    188
BP                    17.7   198
Arkea              16.8    177
Corum            15.2    206
Apicil              13.8   189
Newrest          6.1    151  (Something wrong there? Heading East at the time.)

The leaders in  the following group now pressing hard, Advens with 520 nm in 24 hrs according to the Apivia tracker!

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8 hours ago, Kenny Dumas said:

MacGuyver would make a couple pontoons out of the life raft, lash them to the foils, jettison the keel and win the race 

That's the spirit!

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1 hour ago, yl75 said:

Newrest art et fenêtres (those names ...) has an issue apparently.

Looks like they are back close to speed now. From the jog in their track it looks like a bit of a wind check, they probably had a bit of clean up to do after if it was not planned. 

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I wouldn't be surprised if a few guys in the IMOCA fleet had a quick check of their keel fittings ... particularily with recent builds.

On a more serious note, Advens Cyber Whatever is doing pretty well considering the boat just hit the water in September. Too bad they went for the west option.

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That middle and back pack are reeling off some serious 24hr mileage. Big numbers across the board, really. 

I expect there could always be a few bad clouds in the doldrums, but generally speaking, the crossing looks pretty straightforward FIFO -- no chance for a shuffle, re-deal. 

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55 minutes ago, ague said:

I wouldn't be surprised if a few guys in the IMOCA fleet had a quick check of their keel fittings ... particularily with recent builds.

I strongly suspect they check the keel as part of their daily checks anyway, and remember so far no one else has hit anything (that we know of)!

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it seems the tracking on the AT racing website has been taken down since their withdrawal from the race? Its too bad because it was much better than the tracking one the TJV website.

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HB tracker is still up, (as its just a skinned Geovoile one), just not on their page:

http://alexthomsonracing.geovoile.com/jacquesvabre/2019/tracker/

(edit: although AT's position isn't on it, as it's the same data as the other trackers and presumedly cut off on Yellow Brick at the request of the Team / RO)

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1 hour ago, ctutmark said:

Looks like they are back close to speed now. From the jog in their track it looks like a bit of a wind check, they probably had a bit of clean up to do after if it was not planned. 

What do you mean by "wind check" ?

Their strange tack east  is around 7 nm long, quite strange.

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6 minutes ago, yl75 said:

What do you mean by "wind check" ?

Their strange tack east  is around 7 nm long, quite strange.

spinning out and going head to wind. Much like you see in small boats where they go head to wind before a race to check the wind.

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After a pretty crappy weekend.  England folding like a cheap deck chair and AT Racing crashing out.  I've put the bottle (s) away and gone back to doing some guesstirouting.  Looking at the numbers posted by the leaders I've tweaked my polars somewhat.  On average, in windspeeds above 18 and TWA's 100 to 130 the leaders have been posting 24 hour runs some 20% higher than the previous VG numbers.  So still chasing a moving target.

I wonder how good the new boats Polars are. 

 

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10 minutes ago, Laurence said:

Shame about AT, Why don't these boats have forward-facing sonar?  If you linked it to the autohelm surely you could steer the boat head to wind pretty quickly. 

For fuck sakes it as been said just a few post above.

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Shame about AT, Why don't these boats have forward-facing sonar?  If you linked it to the autohelm surely you could steer the boat head to wind pretty quickly. 

1 hour ago, popo said:

For fuck sakes it as been said just a few post above.

 

12 hours ago, mad said:

Not this shit again!  

Where is a 100m from,  there picking up fish at 800m (this gives you 62 seconds)

 

“We were able to pick up just one ‘mark’ on the screen at 800m and find a shoal of anchovies –
Read more at https://www.yachtingworld.com/practical-cruising/forward-facing-sonar-122919#hIHRMlGYkkxI1bZV.99

Even at 100m 

If you cranked the rudder to steer the boat into wind,  and released the sail. all automated .. If you don't miss it your going to be travelling a lot slower.. 

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For those not wanting to rehash 6 or more years of Anarchy discussions about FLIR stuff again, here's an option:

Good thoughtful hour podcast with Sam Davies, interviewed by Shirley Robertson  just before the Fastet race. http://shirleyrobertson.com/podcast/  Ep7 

topics: Sam's history, competitive start in synchronized swimming[!], MacGyver memories, Jules Verne attempt with Tracy Edwards (dismasted 1998) , why she left Robertson's Olympic campaign, solo sailing addiction, Vendee race to the race, Vendee pressures and dismasting, SCA and skippering, VOR responsibilities,gender, opportunites, IC charity details,foils. 

Glad I spent the hour listening. Revitalized following IC's progress this race. 

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5 hours ago, ctutmark said:

spinning out and going head to wind. Much like you see in small boats where they go head to wind before a race to check the wind.

 But you don't do it at 9knots for an hour. It's a weird heading,  speed.

 

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1 hour ago, Laurence said:

Shame about AT, Why don't these boats have forward-facing sonar?  If you linked it to the autohelm surely you could steer the boat head to wind pretty quickly. 

Aside. Couldn't help looking up the best answer I'd read in the past. Even the YW article notes the speed limitation, and doesn't mention foilers. I'd hoped HB had made progress on this issue (see HB thread), but obviously anything they tried wasn't enough.

Back to the race.

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2 hours ago, Laurence said:

Shame about AT, Why don't these boats have forward-facing sonar?  If you linked it to the autohelm surely you could steer the boat head to wind pretty quickly. 

Troll or fucking idiot? 

 

Shall I start a poll?? 

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1 hour ago, Laurence said:

Shame about AT, Why don't these boats have forward-facing sonar?  If you linked it to the autohelm surely you could steer the boat head to wind pretty quickly. 

 

Where is a 100m from,  there picking up fish at 800m (this gives you 62 seconds)

 

“We were able to pick up just one ‘mark’ on the screen at 800m and find a shoal of anchovies –
Read more at https://www.yachtingworld.com/practical-cruising/forward-facing-sonar-122919#hIHRMlGYkkxI1bZV.99

Even at 100m 

If you cranked the rudder to steer the boat into wind,  and released the sail. all automated .. If you don't miss it your going to be travelling a lot slower.. 

Fuck you’re a funny kid. 

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Someone seen this one ?

Keel engine broken on Arkea Paprec, so they have to swing the keel ... by hand !

They have at least one to three more gybes to do to escape cabo verde's windshadow, they try to minimise it to save some energy

 

PS : didn't knew this was enven a possibility, is this on every boat ?

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2 minutes ago, popo said:

PS : didn't knew this was even a possibility, is this on every boat ?

I think so, Pip Hare is the only one with an actual winch (the only electric winch in the fleet) but still had to test she could do it by hand, so I'd imagine all the others can set their pedestal to pump hydraulic pressure for the keel?

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26 minutes ago, popo said:

Someone seen this one ?

Keel engine broken on Arkea Paprec, so they have to swing the keel ... by hand !

They have at least one to three more gybes to do to escape cabo verde's windshadow, they try to minimise it to save some energy

 

PS : didn't knew this was enven a possibility, is this on every boat ?

 

23 minutes ago, JonRowe said:

I think so, Pip Hare is the only one with an actual winch (the only electric winch in the fleet) but still had to test she could do it by hand, so I'd imagine all the others can set their pedestal to pump hydraulic pressure for the keel?

You’d think every boat would have that system linked to a grinder pedestal?? 
How dependant are they all on hydraulics?

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1 minute ago, mad said:

You’d think every boat would have that system linked to a grinder pedestal?? 
How dependant are they all on hydraulics?

Only hydraulics are for the keel.

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HB is back on the official site tracker :

https://www.transatjacquesvabre.org/fr/cartographie-et-classement

(but not on HB and Apivia tracker for some reason ...)

By the way, in the last HB video I was wondering why when Alex was mentioning "going on the port side", he was showing starboard, but in fact the video is inverted! (Boss and Nokia inverted on their shirts).

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4 hours ago, Laurence said:

Shame about AT, Why don't these boats have forward-facing sonar?  If you linked it to the autohelm surely you could steer the boat head to wind pretty quickly. 

I'm more interested in knowing why they haven't committed to using sheep's bladders to prevent earthquakes.

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3 minutes ago, Gorn FRANTIC!! said:

I'm more interested in knowing why they haven't committed to using sheep's bladders to prevent earthquakes.

Fucker, I’ve got a broken rib and laughing hurts. :P

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7 minutes ago, yl75 said:

HB is back on the official site tracker :

https://www.transatjacquesvabre.org/fr/cartographie-et-classement

(but not on HB and Apivia tracker for some reason ...)

By the way, in the last HB video I was wondering why when Alex was mentioning "going on the port side", he was showing starboard, but in fact the video is inverted! (Boss and Nokia inverted on their shirts).

Thanks. Wondered the same, since the tracker had shown the boat turning west (starboard) at the hit .

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50 minutes ago, mad said:

 

You’d think every boat would have that system linked to a grinder pedestal?? 
How dependant are they all on hydraulics?

On the rams for lifting keels, there’s usually a manual bypass valve and a lever you can stick a PVC pipe over and slowly pump pressure from on side to the other. 
 

Pip Hare’s boat is unique in that it instead of the hydraulic ram she’s using a powered winch with lines and pulleys. All can fail and present technical challenges. 

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So, Arkea is on the good foil, yes?  When is this new boat going to show any sort of turn of speed?  Seems exceptionally ordinary so far.  Actually, it doesn't seem to be any faster with a foil than without.  

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49 minutes ago, Roleur said:

So, Arkea is on the good foil, yes?  When is this new boat going to show any sort of turn of speed?  Seems exceptionally ordinary so far.  Actually, it doesn't seem to be any faster with a foil than without.  

Foil-less on starboard tack/jibe, foil while on port

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26 minutes ago, ctutmark said:

Foil-less on starboard tack/jibe, foil while on port

Right.  So they've been on the good foil for the last 24 hours or so and...  nothing.

Can anyone explain the latest tracker update?  It shows 11th Hour directly between Apivia and the finish line yet, Apivia is somehow 5nm in front.  Only if the route includes a waypoint ON the African coast.  In the real world, 11th Hour is tearing it up. 

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It’s a Juan K leap of faith into imoca (he hasn’t done any imocas of note in 2 generations) - It isn’t going to be spectacular off the line and will probably need more development than VPLP or Verdier. 

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i don't normally do this but fixed...

2 minutes ago, Miffy said:

It’s a Juan K leap of faith into imoca (he hasn’t done any imocas of note in 2 generations) - It isn’t going to be spectacular off the line and will probably need more development than VPLP or Verdier. 

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All the lead boats are impressive.

The new class 40 leader is averaging 16kn as well, bloody fast for a 40' boat.

That tri did stop for a day in the islands though. I am very impressed with the tris speed this race, up to 25kn average over an hour is getting up to ORMA 70 speed.

Charal has put 30nm on 11 hour in a short time, not sure why.

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Repeating myself but the performance of Advens is impressive. They intitally took the western wrong routing option and are now cathcing up with the group chasing the leaders. It is (?) the youngest boat in the IMOCA fleet and already seems to be faily competitive.

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On 11/2/2019 at 10:00 PM, stief said:

Saw a few references earlier to some trouble on IC, and the news is up now: all as good as can be expected

https://www.transatjacquesvabre.org/en/news/news/1556/davies-avoids-disaster-after-pirouette-in-the-canaries

[and hey Herman! good to read you again]

Thanks Stief!!

On 11/4/2019 at 3:03 AM, Fiji Bitter said:
On 11/2/2019 at 4:09 PM, Herman said:

My conclusion; only an alien can get AT on that podium by zapping him there.

Where have you been Herman, I've been worried about you. Did the aliens just send you back to earth?

I was just able to hang on to my towel :lol:  

 

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27 minutes ago, ague said:

Repeating myself but the performance of Advens is impressive. They intitally took the western wrong routing option and are now cathcing up with the group chasing the leaders. It is (?) the youngest boat in the IMOCA fleet and already seems to be faily competitive.

I agree,  looks quick, I'm impressed that they seem to be able to get through the back of the southern pack.  Looks like they have the speed to maybe get upto 6th? They might be able to pull upto BP, who looks like they are off the pace a bit in the trade winds (No surprise there). The final section after the doldrums should suit the foilers more as it's not vmg running. 

 

I have been disappointed by the speed of initiatives Coeur. Whilst an older boat they've had plenty of time to develop it. Transpires they blew out there Gennaker on the first night. 

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23 minutes ago, oioi said:

I agree,  looks quick, I'm impressed that they seem to be able to get through the back of the southern pack.  Looks like they have the speed to maybe get upto 6th? They might be able to pull upto BP, who looks like they are off the pace a bit in the trade winds (No surprise there). The final section after the doldrums should suit the foilers more as it's not vmg running. 

 

I have been disappointed by the speed of initiatives Coeur. Whilst an older boat they've had plenty of time to develop it. Transpires they blew out there Gennaker on the first night. 

https://www.facebook.com/initiativescoeur/videos/708978189623681/

They actually repaired it but it then blew out again around Canary island. Since then, they had switch between their spinnaker/smaller gennaker and code zero hence their lack of speed.

The blew out sail was and old sail that already did a round the world race.

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51 minutes ago, huey 2 said:

[05/11 at 12 PM]
 Ranking: 1st
Gap with the 2th: 120 NM
 distance to goal: 1432,5 NM

Speed: 17 Los..

 
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Charal have sailed this really well so far.  No obvious mistakes and from comments that they are making not pushing the boat too hard either.  I like that style, managing the race and the boat. Reminds me of Armel's approach last VG. Very well earned position at the front.

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Arkea impressive in my view.  No port foil all race, now manual keel canting and still inside the top ten and showing some good turns of speed on the good tack.  A good basis to refine.  

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12 hours ago, Roleur said:

Right.  So they've been on the good foil for the last 24 hours or so and...  nothing.

Can anyone explain the latest tracker update?  It shows 11th Hour directly between Apivia and the finish line yet, Apivia is somehow 5nm in front.  Only if the route includes a waypoint ON the African coast.  In the real world, 11th Hour is tearing it up. 

Saw the same thing, the tracker display had a lag in showing Apivia's position. If you place your cursor on a boat it will display the time of report. 

 

Seems there is general consensus that the two new Verdier boats (Apivia and Advens) are quite quick, always thought they would be. 

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From Charal yesterday;
We’re at 100% of the potential of the boat, we haven’t opened the toolbox since we started and we’re happy with the work done by the team. It's been hot for a long time already, Charal is a well-protected boat, so it's hot under the cockpit roof and below, it's hard to sleep.
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Lucky bastards, never looked at the toolbox....

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9 minutes ago, LeoV said:

From Charal yesterday;
We’re at 100% of the potential of the boat, we haven’t opened the toolbox since we started and we’re happy with the work done by the team. It's been hot for a long time already, Charal is a well-protected boat, so it's hot under the cockpit roof and below, it's hard to sleep.
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Lucky bastards, never looked at the toolbox....

You get the impression Beyou is confident. 

Able to push the boat very hard, is just as quick as the newest designs (although they aren't as optimised) and the greatest problem they seem to be having is that it's a bit hot inside. 

 

Stunning performance so far from that team

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1 hour ago, Icedtea said:

Did I speak too soon? 

Charal now with a 0.7 knot average over the last 5 mins :blink:

Might allready be in a little thing call doldrums ...

Apivia at 7knts ...

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