Sol Rosenberg 6,552 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 3 hours ago, Mid said: Accuweather was going to speak up on Trump’s behalf sooner or later. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mid 3,079 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 Quote The statement from NOAA contrasts with comments the agency’s spokesman, Chris Vaccaro, made Sunday. “The current forecast path of Dorian does not include Alabama,” Vaccaro said at the time. Quote Former National Hurricane Center Director Bill Read blasted NOAA leadership Friday night on his Facebook page calling the situation “so disappointing” and saying he would comment because NOAA employees were ordered to be quiet. “Either NOAA Leadership truly agrees with what they posted or they were ordered to do it. If it is the former, the statement shows a lack of understanding of how to use probabilistic forecasts in conjunction with other forecast information. Embarrassing. If it is the latter, the statement shows a lack of courage on their part by not supporting the people in the field who are actually doing the work. Heartbreaking,” Read wrote. “What the Birmingham NWS office sent out Sunday morning was correct and served the public well,” Read continued. “It clearly let the public know that they were not at risk from the impacts of Hurricane Dorian.” https://www.apnews.com/b77db47e44954ee4b4ab948c3d898d8d Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mid 3,079 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 Oh , what a tangled .......................... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mid 3,079 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 Meteorologists Are Outraged After NOAA Backed Trump's False Hurricane Forecast Quote For many meteorologists in the field, the NOAA statement was a clear political move by a federal science agency designed to appease the president's false claim that Alabama was in danger, while throwing the local Birmingham weather service office under the bus. And several weather experts in the field were quick to show their support of the Birmingham office, pointing out that their Sunday tweet, and hurricane models for Dorian, were correct. https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/salvadorhernandez/meteorologists-react-noaa-hurricane-alabama Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dacapo 1,171 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jules 1,903 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 12 hours ago, Mid said: One of the factors in determining harassment in the workplace is duress - i.e. did the boss threaten you with your job, a demotion or cut in pay if you didn't do what your boss asked? Maybe once this shell of a man is removed from office, harassment charges will be added to the ever growing list of criminal allegations. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sol Rosenberg 6,552 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 Looks like the Pride of the GOP wants to keep this in the news. I reckon he’d rather we look at the abzuurdity of this than the jobs report. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jzk 1,506 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jerseyguy 1,263 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 Former NOAA official says the agency siding with Trump rather than the NWS is an act of “moral cowardice.” https://news.yahoo.com/noaa-darkesk-day-supporting-trump-error-official-065019320.html Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jzk 1,506 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 6 minutes ago, Mismoyled Jiblet. said: fuck yeah jerk-z is here to deep throat the authoritarian because he likes freedom! he's so libertarian he think Trumps taint tastes like pumpkin pie! What are you talking about? I posted an image archived at the NOAA National Hurricane Center. Are you saying that this image supports Trump's position? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bus Driver 4,437 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 6 minutes ago, jzk said: What are you talking about? I posted an image archived at the NOAA National Hurricane Center. Are you saying that this image supports Trump's position? That image is more in line with what President Trump said. Wonder why he didn't use that, and decided to show a crudely altered map? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jzk 1,506 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 1 minute ago, Bus Driver said: That image is more in line with what President Trump said. Wonder why he didn't use that, and decided to show a crudely altered map? You really wonder about such unimportant things? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bus Driver 4,437 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 1 minute ago, jzk said: You really wonder about such unimportant things? I do wonder why the President is so dishonest. I do wonder why some of his supporters feel the need to defend his dishonesty. Don't you? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
badlatitude 2,790 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jzk 1,506 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 3 minutes ago, Bus Driver said: I do wonder why the President is so dishonest. I do wonder why some of his supporters feel the need to defend his dishonesty. Don't you? If an actual NOAA NHC image supports what he is saying, as you pointed out, where is the dishonesty? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
VhmSays 327 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 41 minutes ago, jzk said: Using weather reports from days ago to warn frighten people when as president you have the latest reports and then using old and altered reports to claim you were right is pathetic. You trying to defend him using the same means just shows you up as a gullible fool. Edit: and dishonest. https://www.businessinsider.in/A-brief-history-of-how-Trump-came-up-with-the-false-claim-that-Hurricane-Dorian-could-hit-Alabama/articleshow/71026907.cms Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Raz'r 3,450 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 5 minutes ago, jzk said: If an actual NOAA NHC image supports what he is saying, as you pointed out, where is the dishonesty? Then why the sharpie. You ain’t too sharp yourself. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jules 1,903 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 15 minutes ago, Raz'r said: Then why the sharpie. Trump was signing an EO when his Sharpie slipped and drew the bubble on the NOAA image. After he was done signing the EO, he looked over and saw the altered image and realized that right before his eyes was proof positive he'd been right all along. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bus Driver 4,437 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 30 minutes ago, jzk said: If an actual NOAA NHC image supports what he is saying, as you pointed out, where is the dishonesty? Early models had a possibility of Dorian grazing the extreme SE corner of Alabama. On Sunday, when President Trump Tweeted Alabama might be hit harder than originally thought, yet all of the models indicated this was no longer the case. That sounds like the President was either intentionally kept out of the loop on updates, or he wasn't really paying attention to them. Three days later, he displayed a childishly altered map to prove he was "right". Mind you, this is a guy who has never admitted to a mistake - even going so far (when discussing religion and sin) to say he has nothing to confess. Nothing about the broken promises and contracts (especially adultery). Now, you want to go back to a previous report that had expired by the time he made that stupid claim and use it to prove he was right, all along. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bridhb 542 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 He was said to be getting hourly updates while on the golf course. Guess it is difficult to pay attention to a potential national emergency while cheating at golf. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jules 1,903 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 1 hour ago, bridhb said: He was said to be getting hourly updates while on the golf course. Guess it is difficult to pay attention to a potential national emergency while cheating at golf. The best advantage you can have when you play golf is an eraser. No doubt Trump keeps his Sharpies out of his bag. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jerseyguy 1,263 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 9 minutes ago, Jules said: The best advantage you can have when you play golf is an eraser. No doubt Trump keeps his Sharpies out of his bag. Never play golf for money with an opponent who has an eraser on his pencil 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sol Rosenberg 6,552 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 Wasn’t hurricane Michael threatening Alabama on some model at some point? If so, The Most Honest Man in the GOP was perfectly accurate. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mrleft8 2,430 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 11 minutes ago, Sol Rosenberg said: Wasn’t hurricane Michael threatening Alabama on some model at some point? If so, The Most Honest Man in the GOP was perfectly accurate. Yeah.... about a week ago or more..... Maybe Aug 30.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fakenews 1,187 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 38 minutes ago, Mrleft8 said: Yeah.... about a week ago or more..... Maybe Aug 30.... Umm Michael... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mrleft8 2,430 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 44 minutes ago, Fakenews said: Umm Michael... Sorry. My mistake. I thought we were discussing the most recent dick stomping event...... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Not for nothing 250 Posted September 7, 2019 Author Share Posted September 7, 2019 so who do you believe for weather forcasting , Trump with a sharpie /NOAA or the NWS and the computer models that had it right? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bus Driver 4,437 Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 1 hour ago, garuda3 said: so who do you believe for weather forcasting , Trump with a sharpie /NOAA or the NWS and the computer models that had it right? Which NOAA? The current politicized iteration? Or, the previous one? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jules 1,903 Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 4 hours ago, Fakenews said: Umm Michael... Umm Ivan, Katrina and Dennis. Which just happened while that fake hurricane was distracting fake news. Alabama doesn't even exist anymore. Duh! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Not for nothing 250 Posted September 8, 2019 Author Share Posted September 8, 2019 email NOAA and tell them what you think about their tracking of Dorain and use of the sharpie for Trump! webmaster@noaa.gov. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
badlatitude 2,790 Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 Ted Lieu ✔ @tedlieu Dear @NOAA Leadership: You all took one oath. And that was to the Constitution, not to @realDonaldTrump. Stop embarrassing yourself by putting sycophancy over science. And if you are going to make shit up, at least have the courage to sign your statement. Get a spine. https://twitter.com/washingtonpost/status/1170492484868349952 … The Washington Post ✔ @washingtonpost NOAA’s support of President Trump over its own scientists provokes mass uproar in weather community https://wapo.st/2LvBFQq 24.2K 11:07 PM - Sep 7, 2019 Twitter Ads info and privacy 6,721 people are talking about this Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sol Rosenberg 6,552 Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 It was Mulvaney that pressured NOAA to bullshit. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jud - s/v Sputnik 916 Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 On 9/7/2019 at 1:33 PM, Sol Rosenberg said: Wasn’t hurricane Michael threatening Alabama on some model at some point? If so, The Most Honest Man in the GOP was perfectly accurate. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sol Rosenberg 6,552 Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 #10 pointing straight at Alabama. Y'all take cover now, y'hear? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bus Driver 4,437 Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mid 3,079 Posted July 2, 2020 Share Posted July 2, 2020 Inquiry Prompted by Trump’s Hurricane Dorian Claim Is Being Blocked, Investigator Says Quote In a memo to Commerce Secretary Wilbur L. Ross Jr., the inspector general, Peggy E. Gustafson, said that staff in his department had “thwarted” the publication of her report. According to Ms. Gustafson’s memo, the department has said portions of that report contain information that cannot be made public, but will not say which ones. The department’s refusal to cooperate with the release of the investigation “appears to be directly linked to the content of our report and the findings of responsibility of the high-level individuals involved,” Ms. Gustafson wrote. She compared the move to the department vetoing her investigation, a significant statement given that an inspector general’s office is designed to conduct inquiries that are independent from the agency being examined. The inspector general’s investigation looks at events surrounding Hurricane Dorian, which struck the United States in September. On Sept. 1, Mr. Trump wrote on Twitter that Dorian, which was then approaching the East Coast of the United States, would hit Alabama “harder than anticipated.” https://internewscast.com/inquiry-prompted-by-trumps-hurricane-dorian-claim-is-being-blocked-investigator-says/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Not for nothing 250 Posted July 2, 2020 Author Share Posted July 2, 2020 I hope this nov it ends, and the fact that people believe this moron , Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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