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when did gore points or any solid white line become personal last minute exit maneuver spots? does your wheeled steel box create the self importance that it takes to say “fuck you” to the ¾ of a mile worth of cars waiting in that clearly marked “exit only” lane or were you already a douche before the car came? does being purposefully obtuse towards the people who follow the rules of the road and order of traffic (over convenience) have any negative effect on these types ever?

 

it’s been getting worse and worse each year, and i’ve always been able to shrug it off...getting very hard to do lately and afraid i’m either going to stroke out or end up in jail on road rage charges one of these days

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My stuff I gotta do is more important than you or your stuff.

And for the record, you must never have tried driving in China.   That is an eyeopening experience.  Tons of honking and chaos. Zero road rage.

Sort of like Vancouver BC now that I think about it.  Sloop?  any comments?

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43 minutes ago, aA said:

when did gore points or any solid white line become personal last minute exit maneuver spots? does your wheeled steel box create the self importance that it takes to say “fuck you” to the ¾ of a mile worth of cars waiting in that clearly marked “exit only” lane or were you already a douche before the car came? does being purposefully obtuse towards the people who follow the rules of the road and order of traffic (over convenience) have any negative effect on these types ever?

 

it’s been getting worse and worse each year, and i’ve always been able to shrug it off...getting very hard to do lately and afraid i’m either going to stroke out or end up in jail on road rage charges one of these days

Just wait until one of those douchebags drives on your lawn. 

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37 minutes ago, aA said:

when did gore points or any solid white line become personal last minute exit maneuver spots? does your wheeled steel box create the self importance that it takes to say “fuck you” to the ¾ of a mile worth of cars waiting in that clearly marked “exit only” lane or were you already a douche before the car came? does being purposefully obtuse towards the people who follow the rules of the road and order of traffic (over convenience) have any negative effect on these types ever?

 

it’s been getting worse and worse each year, and i’ve always been able to shrug it off...getting very hard to do lately and afraid i’m either going to stroke out or end up in jail on road rage charges one of these days

Buy one of these

Used 1998 Dodge Ram 1500 Truck SLT  $700

https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?listingId=521675649

And of course get your local mechanic to go over it so it's reliable safe transportation... then fuck 'em. Your insurance will be a lot cheaper and you can run over guys who want to play fuck-fuck games in traffic. You don't have to worry about scratching or denting it. And if you do actually wreck it, so what? Go buy another one and keep on truckin'

I lived in and commuted around Boston for a while. The worst asshole drivers I have encountered in the US (I drove a gov't vehicle in Naples Italy for a while.... now -those- people are nuts!) and I got an old F-150 with railroad ties for bumpers. Did I worry about brushing against other cars? Or even shoving them the fuck outta my way? No indeed. Fortunately I had sworn a holy oath to only use my powers for good, or I might have become one of the assholes myself...

- DSK

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1 hour ago, Windward said:

My stuff I gotta do is more important than you or your stuff.

And for the record, you must never have tried driving in China.   That is an eyeopening experience.  Tons of honking and chaos. Zero road rage.

Sort of like Vancouver BC now that I think about it.  Sloop?  any comments?

Vancouver has the most incompetent drivers I have seen anywhere - and that's a lot of places.

They can't even drive in the rain FFS. An inch of snow paralyzes the city and causes dozens of accidents.

U-turns in the middle of the block on major streets? No problem.

Wait for 5 minutes blocking traffic for a parked car to load up, check their phone and then leave? No problem.

Drive straight across the middle of a roundabout? No problem.

Drive the wrong way round a roundabout? No problem.

They don't use their horns though - I'll give them that.

I have enough road rage to suffice for the whole fuckin' city.

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Easily 3/4 of the drivers on the road have no clue what they are doing. I blame paramedics and the auto industry. We save the stupid ones then put them in cars that are safer and safer, so no consequences for stupidity (well, rarely). 

If only retired LE/FF/EMS personnel were allowed to administer the driving portion of the exam it would take years and cost thousands for these idjits to get a license.

 

It isn't a question of age. Its a question of frustration with the lack of accountability in our everyday society. From the checkout line at the grocery, to the waiting lines at the ferry, to just freakin' common sense and common courtesy on the road.

 

I don't think we need road rage. We need to have test that we can take that if you pass it you get a paintball gun. Then you get to tag stupid drivers for local LE to pull over and talk to. I'm good with starting with all retired LE having them!

 

WL

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The darker the window tint the higher the assholiness factor in my experience. People who would never push ahead in line do it in cars because you don't know them, can't see them and so fuck you. In Texas it is becoming a regular occurrence for this to elevate to someone getting shot.

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33 minutes ago, White Lightnin' said:

I don't think we need road rage. We need to have test that we can take that if you pass it you get a paintball gun. Then you get to tag stupid drivers for local LE to pull over and talk to. I'm good with starting with all retired LE having them!

I want real bullets.

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1 hour ago, SloopJonB said:

Vancouver has the most incompetent drivers I have seen anywhere - and that's a lot of places.

They can't even drive in the rain FFS. An inch of snow paralyzes the city and causes dozens of accidents.

U-turns in the middle of the block on major streets? No problem.

Wait for 5 minutes blocking traffic for a parked car to load up, check their phone and then leave? No problem.

Drive straight across the middle of a roundabout? No problem.

Drive the wrong way round a roundabout? No problem.

They don't use their horns though - I'll give them that.

I have enough road rage to suffice for the whole fuckin' city.

Great list, and I've seen every one of those examples as they bleed down here to go to Costco or a little farther to the casinos and shopping outlets.

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6 minutes ago, d'ranger said:

The darker the window tint the higher the assholiness factor in my experience. People who would never push ahead in line do it in cars because you don't know them, can't see them and so fuck you. In Texas it is becoming a regular occurrence for this to elevate to someone getting shot.

Around here the biggest assholes drive pickups.

The bigger and higher they are the bigger the asshole factor.

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I forgot one in my prior list.

Turning on their 4 way flashers excuses anything. Stopped in a no stopping zone, double park on a busy street, park in a bus stop - you name it.

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2 minutes ago, SloopJonB said:

I forgot one in my prior list.

Turning on their 4 way flashers Park Anywhere Lights excuses anything. Stopped in a no stopping zone, double park on a busy street, park in a bus stop - you name it.

FIFY

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2 minutes ago, SloopJonB said:

I forgot one in my prior list.

Turning on their 4 way flashers excuses anything. Stopped in a no stopping zone, double park on a busy street, park in a bus stop - you name it.

 

What's the deal with turning on flashers the second the weather is anything other than sunny?  Especially on the interstate.  We're going the same way fucknuts.

 

As far as the dummies that wait until the last second to hit on offramp after a mile of effort lane, I don't let the special little twats in.

But, I'm uber polite if you're merging onto the road.

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On a cab ride from Buenos Aires (Argentina) to the airport I learned that lane stripes on the highway weren't rules, and they weren't even guidelines.  They might as well have been invisible.  A pretty scary ride, but we did survive so I suppose the locals have some sort of method figured out.

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39 minutes ago, SloopJonB said:

I forgot one in my prior list.

Turning on their 4 way flashers excuses anything. Stopped in a no stopping zone, double park on a busy street, park in a bus stop - you name it.

Illegal in Florida unless you've been in a wreck, or are broke down in a travel lane. I found that out the first month I was here in a riving/pouring rain storm, and I pulled over to the grass and put on my 4 ways..... A nice Sheriff told me that was a no no, and let me go.

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This was based on driving in Vancouver

 

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21 minutes ago, Mrleft8 said:

Illegal in Florida unless you've been in a wreck, or are broke down in a travel lane. I found that out the first month I was here in a riving/pouring rain storm, and I pulled over to the grass and put on my 4 ways..... A nice Sheriff told me that was a no no, and let me go.

Half the shit the incompetents here pull off is illegal - doesn't make any difference. The only things the cops are looking for is speeders, drunks and morons on their cell phones.

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8 hours ago, Hatin' life said:

As far as the dummies that wait until the last second to hit on offramp after a mile of effort lane, I don't let the special little twats in.

This ^^.  I see this ALL the time where I live.  SWMBO and I have come to the conclusion that they are so fucking clueless, that the couple of brain cells needed to rub together to recognize there is even an offramp are still too far apart.  

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11 hours ago, SloopJonB said:

Vancouver has the most incompetent drivers I have seen anywhere - and that's a lot of places.

They can't even drive in the rain FFS. An inch of snow paralyzes the city and causes dozens of accidents.

U-turns in the middle of the block on major streets? No problem.

Wait for 5 minutes blocking traffic for a parked car to load up, check their phone and then leave? No problem.

Drive straight across the middle of a roundabout? No problem.

Drive the wrong way round a roundabout? No problem.

They don't use their horns though - I'll give them that.

I have enough road rage to suffice for the whole fuckin' city.

This list is a carbon copy of DC drivers.  Except they use their horns.   Don't even get me started on Uber adn Lyft, and all of the electric scooters darting in and out of traffic.

I like the idea of an older beater car/truck  remove the front and rear bumpers and replace with a a pressure treated 4x6, or weld in a steel I Beam.  break my bumper  no problem.  20 bucks at Home depot and a couple wacks with a sledge and I'm back in business,  but your BWM fender is royally fucked.

Sitting in stop and go traffic, folks will have books open on the steering wheel while they crawl along. 

women doing makeup, men shaving.  for fucks sake,  get out of bed five minutes earlier.

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I was turning left yesterday to get out of a parking lot, and a nice lady waved me in through her lane which was backed up like 20 cars.  

There are some kind people out there.  

 

And as far as driving, Mexico City, Shanghai / Beijing China, Ho Chi Minh CIty Vietnam, and India in general are places that I let someone else do the driving.  Even Italy is a mess sometimes. 

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2 hours ago, Marcjsmith said:

This list is a carbon copy of DC drivers.  Except they use their horns.   Don't even get me started on Uber adn Lyft, and all of the electric scooters darting in and out of traffic.

I like the idea of an older beater car/truck  remove the front and rear bumpers and replace with a a pressure treated 4x6, or weld in a steel I Beam.  break my bumper  no problem.  20 bucks at Home depot and a couple wacks with a sledge and I'm back in business,  but your BWM fender is royally fucked.

Sitting in stop and go traffic, folks will have books open on the steering wheel while they crawl along. 

women doing makeup, men shaving.  for fucks sake,  get out of bed five minutes earlier.

I commute into NoVa from the west.  As soon as you cross the Shenandoah River, it's like Combat Commuting, and gets worse the closer to the beltway you get.  Don't even get me started on the clueless idiots that don't know how to operate in a traffic circle - they're *almost* as bad as the merge-lane-blasters. 

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15 hours ago, Steam Flyer said:

Buy one of these

Used 1998 Dodge Ram 1500 Truck SLT  $700

https://www.autotrader.com/cars-for-sale/vehicledetails.xhtml?listingId=521675649

And of course get your local mechanic to go over it so it's reliable safe transportation... then fuck 'em. Your insurance will be a lot cheaper and you can run over guys who want to play fuck-fuck games in traffic. You don't have to worry about scratching or denting it. And if you do actually wreck it, so what? Go buy another one and keep on truckin'

I lived in and commuted around Boston for a while. The worst asshole drivers I have encountered in the US (I drove a gov't vehicle in Naples Italy for a while.... now -those- people are nuts!) and I got an old F-150 with railroad ties for bumpers. Did I worry about brushing against other cars? Or even shoving them the fuck outta my way? No indeed. Fortunately I had sworn a holy oath to only use my powers for good, or I might have become one of the assholes myself...

- DSK

mount either steel bumpers from the 60's or      a  12x12.,  run over something, just sand the wood a little..

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1 minute ago, A guy in the Chesapeake said:

I commute into NoVa from the west.  As soon as you cross the Shenandoah River, it's like Combat Commuting, and gets worse the closer to the beltway you get.  Don't even get me started on the clueless idiots that don't know how to operate in a traffic circle - they're *almost* as bad as the merge-lane-blasters. 

gotta remember,  traffic circles are new to VA....  its gonna take time. 

  How far into do you come?   Rt 7 is a nightmare  123 is getting bad and well 66  its always a shit storm.

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Just now, Marcjsmith said:

gotta remember,  traffic circles are new to VA....  its gonna take time. 

  How far into do you come?   Rt 7 is a nightmare  123 is getting bad and well 66  its always a shit storm.

I come in from Winchester to either Chantilly or Springfield.   I usually take 50 in, but, will jump on 7 to the Greenway if something's happening on 50.  I avoid 66 like the plague, unless I'm heading home directly from Springfield.   I swear that once you get east of 15, or south of 7, that people lose their flippin' common sense. 

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Just now, A guy in the Chesapeake said:

I come in from Winchester to either Chantilly or Springfield.   I usually take 50 in, but, will jump on 7 to the Greenway if something's happening on 50.  I avoid 66 like the plague, unless I'm heading home directly from Springfield.   I swear that once you get east of 15, or south of 7, that people lose their flippin' common sense. 

I live in vienna,  and rt 7 and 123 and chain bridge into DC,  glad I go in early to miss the brunt of it.  but  Yeah  once you get past leesburg  its get bad quick.   with the Construction on 7 and 66  going on   its not going to get better any time soon

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16 hours ago, aA said:

when did gore points or any solid white line become personal last minute exit maneuver spots? does your wheeled steel box create the self importance that it takes to say “fuck you” to the ¾ of a mile worth of cars waiting in that clearly marked “exit only” lane or were you already a douche before the car came? does being purposefully obtuse towards the people who follow the rules of the road and order of traffic (over convenience) have any negative effect on these types ever?

 

it’s been getting worse and worse each year, and i’ve always been able to shrug it off...getting very hard to do lately and afraid i’m either going to stroke out or end up in jail on road rage charges one of these days

What you are not realizing is that they are, obviously, royalty and not some self important douche-nozzle, whose momma didn't raise them right.  I mean, there is no other logical explanation for it other than the fact that those people are actually more important than all the rest. It can't be that that many people are just complete cunts.

and yes. it is getting worse.

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14 hours ago, d'ranger said:

The darker the window tint the higher the assholiness factor in my experience. People who would never push ahead in line do it in cars because you don't know them, can't see them and so fuck you. In Texas it is becoming a regular occurrence for this to elevate to someone getting shot.

Houston probably gives you a 2X factor on this, but its ugly everywhere, no doubt

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39 minutes ago, Grande Mastere Dreade said:

mount either steel bumpers from the 60's or      a  12x12.,  run over something, just sand the wood a little..

12x12 is about the same size as a railroad tie, a little smaller.

The nice thing about the RR tie is that you can saw it off a little longer than the car is wide, for more protection (and to sweep a wider path clear).

And it's really obvious you don't give a shit about getting it banged up. REALLY REALLY obvious to even the most dedicated of the head-up-ass brigade.

- DSK

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1 hour ago, Marcjsmith said:

gotta remember,  traffic circles are new to VA....  its gonna take time.

Yeah - figuring out how to drive in circles is a tough one.

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Just now, SloopJonB said:

Yeah - figuring out how to drive in circles is a tough one.

driving in circles is easy.   people freaking out once they go to the circle and not really understanding that the folks in the circle have the right of way. 

but then you get the douche nozzle who's in the circle that decides to be the "nice guy" and stop and let people in.  and fuck it all up. 

Toss in a cell phone or a grande mocha super frappe and its a shit show.

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I remember driving on a SoCal freeway with my visiting father in the passenger seat. I did it. The exit lane wasn't parked, but it was full back at least 1/4 mile. I didn't barge, mind you, just merged at the last second into a gap someone had inadvertently opened.

Dad was furious with me. I asked him whether he'd rather be back there, waiting in the line or getting on with our day? This is how the game is played, nowadays. If I didn't do it, someone else would.

I don't think he ever forgave me for being so smug.

 

I also think it's a natural response to high density living. Now that we're in bucolic Maine, the only people who do that sort of thing are from out of state. And the only time Mainers honk is to wave and say Hi to their neighbors.

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Saudi is no fun to drive in,  stop at the lights one car length back from the white line on a three lane highway and how many cars are in front of you...???? 

 

 

Yep. 8, four squeezed into each row and half of them in front of the white line. 

Those on the right will turn left, those on the left will turn right.

As For roundabouts don't be surprised if you find something coming the wrong way round.. 

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1 hour ago, Willin' said:

I remember driving on a SoCal freeway with my visiting father in the passenger seat. I did it. The exit lane wasn't parked, but it was full back at least 1/4 mile. I didn't barge, mind you, just merged at the last second into a gap someone had inadvertently opened.

Yeah, but that's not as much as dick move as driving down the shoulder.  I think we've all done what you've done.  leave enough room between you and mark, and If you can't slam the door on me I'll dive in,  and There have been a few time that I wanted to do it, intended to do it, but, no hole ever opened  and I went on to the next light paid my penance, and made my turn. 

two things 

#1. I just wish people would "get it" and when traffic is backed up that the "zipper" method of merging is the way to go.  getting out of the merge lane 100 yards before it ends leaving the rest of lane empty isn't doing anyone any favors when traffic is stop/go

#2.  when traffic is free flowing push the fucking gas pedal and get the fuck up to speed before you merge.  do not merge in front of someone at 45mph when the speed limit is 65.

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2 hours ago, Willin' said:

I remember driving on a SoCal freeway with my visiting father in the passenger seat. I did it. The exit lane wasn't parked, but it was full back at least 1/4 mile. I didn't barge, mind you, just merged at the last second into a gap someone had inadvertently opened.

Dad was furious with me. I asked him whether he'd rather be back there, waiting in the line or getting on with our day? This is how the game is played, nowadays. If I didn't do it, someone else would.

I don't think he ever forgave me for being so smug.

 

I also think it's a natural response to high density living. Now that we're in bucolic Maine, the only people who do that sort of thing are from out of state. And the only time Mainers honk is to wave and say Hi to their neighbors.

i'm certain you are a good person so please don't take this response as an attack on you personally or your character, but irt to your response....wtf? so everyone else 'getting on with their day' have to wait for yours? sorry, but blaming high density living for disrespecting others time and manners is bullshit

 

"if i don't someone else will" is also something most parents addressed with their kids at early ages. sorry bud but your pops was right

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1 hour ago, aA said:
3 hours ago, Willin' said:

I remember driving on a SoCal freeway with my visiting father in the passenger seat. I did it. The exit lane wasn't parked, but it was full back at least 1/4 mile. I didn't barge, mind you, just merged at the last second into a gap someone had inadvertently opened.

Dad was furious with me. I asked him whether he'd rather be back there, waiting in the line or getting on with our day? This is how the game is played, nowadays. If I didn't do it, someone else would.

I don't think he ever forgave me for being so smug.

 

I also think it's a natural response to high density living. Now that we're in bucolic Maine, the only people who do that sort of thing are from out of state. And the only time Mainers honk is to wave and say Hi to their neighbors.

i'm certain you are a good person so please don't take this response as an attack on you personally or your character, but irt to your response....wtf? so everyone else 'getting on with their day' have to wait for yours? sorry, but blaming high density living for disrespecting others time and manners is bullshit

 

"if i don't someone else will" is also something most parents addressed with their kids at early ages. sorry bud but your pops was right

Agreed.

The end point... or even the mid point... of trying to pull ahead is when all lanes of the highway are blocked by people who have whizzed past the people waiting in line and then try to cut in front.

Public resources should allocated on the basis of need and willingness to wait politely in line. Otherwise the only people who get anything/anywhere are the assholes who shove others aside.

Willin' I'm sure you are not the type to literally shove others out of your way, but when you cut in line you are opening the door for others to be even more selfish and rude. And it will bring everything to a halt as well as destroying public civility.

Please reconsider!

- DSK

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I tend to be a reactive asshole.

That is not a good trait either.

Best to put your mind in its happy place and let others suffer alone with their assholeness.

 

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58 minutes ago, Steam Flyer said:

Agreed.

The end point... or even the mid point... of trying to pull ahead is when all lanes of the highway are blocked by people who have whizzed past the people waiting in line and then try to cut in front.

Public resources should allocated on the basis of need and willingness to wait politely in line. Otherwise the only people who get anything/anywhere are the assholes who shove others aside.

Willin' I'm sure you are not the type to literally shove others out of your way, but when you cut in line you are opening the door for others to be even more selfish and rude. And it will bring everything to a halt as well as destroying public civility.

Please reconsider!

- DSK

I appreciate the responses guys, and to an extent you are correct. However, there's no rule that says you have to exit at the head of the off ramp, especially when it's a mile or more long. Those that choose to get in the ramp, slow down and queue up at first chance are making a conscious choice. They may or may not be aware that the ramp continues on for a long distance. But the ramp is an off ramp and can be entered at any point right up to where it leaves the main highway, whether there's a slow queue of traffic or no one there at all.

It's not a matter of being rude or polite, it's efficiency. And my entering an open slot in that queue just before the exit ( not barging or forcing anyone out of their space) is no different than me passing someone that's motoring at exactly the speed limit when I choose to go 5 or 10 miles above it.

I regret if you have hard feelings about it, but it's your problem. I'm within the law and I'm playing the game as efficiently as I can. If you choose the other way, good for you, but don't get mad at me for getting where I'm going as quickly and efficiently as possible. 

 

And as someone else mentioned earlier, best to learn how to and accept zipper merging. As the motoring population continues to increase, it'll become more and more necessary. Don't fight it, roll with it!

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This topic reminds me of our rental car on our trip to Cali last fall. The interactive cruise control would cruise at your desired speed until you closed to within about 3 car lengths of the car in front of you, then slow to match that  car's speed. In California, if there's a 3 car length opening on the freeway, well, 3 cars will pull into it, thereby causing my cruise control to further slow down. So eventually, I'm the geezer holding up traffic by going slower than the speed limit when I was cruising at 10-15 MPH above it. 

Should I be pissed off at the assholes that pulled into my  safety zone?

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9 minutes ago, Willin' said:

I appreciate the responses guys, and to an extent you are correct. However, there's no rule that says you have to exit at the head of the off ramp, especially when it's a mile or more long. Those that choose to get in the ramp, slow down and queue up at first chance are making a conscious choice. They may or may not be aware that the ramp continues on for a long distance. But the ramp is an off ramp and can be entered at any point right up to where it leaves the main highway, whether there's a slow queue of traffic or no one there at all.

It's not a matter of being rude or polite, it's efficiency. And my entering an open slot in that queue just before the exit ( not barging or forcing anyone out of their space) is no different than me passing someone that's motoring at exactly the speed limit when I choose to go 5 or 10 miles above it.

I regret if you have hard feelings about it, but it's your problem. I'm within the law and I'm playing the game as efficiently as I can. If you choose the other way, good for you, but don't get mad at me for getting where I'm going as quickly and efficiently as possible. 

 

And as someone else mentioned earlier, best to learn how to and accept zipper merging. As the motoring population continues to increase, it'll become more and more necessary. Don't fight it, roll with it!

Zipper Merging is indeed the most efficient way, but what you're doing is cutting in line, not zipper merging.

Sorry, them's the facts. You're taking advantage of other people's civility.

I've driven in Naples Italy, where all traffic is a honking angry snarl, all the time, at all intersections. Those drivers are doing the same thing you're doing, looking for an opening and taking it. They don't shoot each other because while the Italian culture seems to be to express anger with gestures and loud words and get it out of your system. I've also driven in Bali, where in Denpassar all traffic is a full-time snarl with honking and gestures, and even MORE chaotic because of the ubiquity of motorbikes, donkey carts, and the absence of the concept of lanes. But there, everybody is happy! Their culture is to greet everybody, apparently like a long-lost friend, and ask about your Aunt Tilly (or whatever).

 

2 minutes ago, Willin' said:

This topic reminds me of our rental car on our trip to Cali last fall. The interactive cruise control would cruise at your desired speed until you closed to within about 3 car lengths of the car in front of you, then slow to match that  car's speed. In California, if there's a 3 car length opening on the freeway, well, 3 cars will pull into it, thereby causing my cruise control to further slow down. So eventually, I'm the geezer holding up traffic by going slower than the speed limit when I was cruising at 10-15 MPH above it. 

Should I be pissed off at the assholes that pulled into my  safety zone?

Not to the point of damaging your health, but yeah. When EVERYBODY is driving a car that will not cut close in front (because SAFEY! Think of the children!) then traffic will be a lot more orderly.

- DSK

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20 hours ago, d'ranger said:

The darker the window tint the higher the assholiness factor in my experience. People who would never push ahead in line do it in cars because you don't know them, can't see them and so fuck you. In Texas it is becoming a regular occurrence for this to elevate to someone getting shot.

....and Milwaulee

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8 hours ago, Steam Flyer said:

12x12 is about the same size as a railroad tie, a little smaller.

The nice thing about the RR tie is that you can saw it off a little longer than the car is wide, for more protection (and to sweep a wider path clear).

And it's really obvious you don't give a shit about getting it banged up. REALLY REALLY obvious to even the most dedicated of the head-up-ass brigade.

- DSK

So is a full-width steel tow bar with towing tongue & ball attached. Does a beautiful job on radiators.

Had a cute 20-something in a red Honda car run straight into me when stopped at a traffic light. Big hole in cute car. I get out, take a look, tell her there's no damage to my vehicle, sort it out with your insurance company (and mutter to myself, get a seeing eye dog to do the driving) and drive off - pulling my tow ball back out of her car....

Funny thing, Sydney is full of arsehole drivers too, they always make room for me when I come down the feeder ramp in the 4WD truck at maybe 5 km/h over the speed - suddenly there's a hole for me to merge into. Try the same thing in the Subaru and at least half the time the bastards will all bunch up and make it hard to merge.

What I hate are fuckwits who try to merge doing 30 km/h less than the traffic is moving and then wonder why they don't get given any space. Even worse when you're stuck behind them.

Fortunately for the survival rate of these people most of the time I live on my land in a backward and benighted bit of the country where the worst problem driver is probably me, and I don't care....

FKT

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Merging is not barging. If there is a legitimate lane, use it and take turns merging to single. It's there for a reason.

Barging is barging, cutting into the single exit lane or the single lane heading someplace specific like onto the freeway. You can tell someone is going to cut, you can feel them hovering like a pick pocket.

I always signal, wait then wave thanks if I find I need someone to let me in, and if they don't let me in I go behind them or go around the block.

Off my freeway there is a duel lane exit and everyone lines up in the right lane and gets pissed if you use the other lane and merge at the end. There are even signs that say stay in lane until merge because drivers back up onto the freeway using the same lane. I don't get it. I'm not doing anything wrong or even rude but the sheeple get so irritated that I'm using the perfectly legitimate second lane. 

My pet peeve are drivers who turn super slow at a turn signals when others are trying to make the light too. People playing with their phones. People that don't honk at the person in front of them not moving because that person is clearly on their phone

And men in big personal trucks who try intimidate other drivers. Especially those trying to barge. Oh hell no, fuck off. :)

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I don't give any quarter to people talking on phones, or texting. I have an old, green with swamp slime truck, and I don't care if some asshole rear ends me while they're on the phone.

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5 hours ago, Willin' said:

. But the ramp is an off ramp and can be entered at any point right up to where it leaves the main highway, whether there's a slow queue of traffic or no one there at all.

 

It can, as long as you follow the road rule that says 'give way when changing lanes'

ie - I have no problem with you jumping into a gap if it's there. But if cars need to let you in, or even brake hard when you jumped into their braking zone, then you are a complete arsehole, and completely deserve it when you get brake checked by the person you pulled behind, or rear ended by the person you pulled in front of.

In my sub 1000 lbs lotus, I'll sometimes roll the dice to find a gap to pull into. Because it's light and quick, and it's me who will come off second best if I collide with anything bigger than a baby stroller. But if a gap doesn't appear, then I go on to the next turn.

In our 10 YO 4wd, I don't do this - as I'm aware that it's theft deterrent exterior can be intimidating, plus all manouvers are conducted by submitting a form in triplicate to the dash and hoping for a positive response. Obviously, a lot more people decide to cut me off when I'm in the lotus vs the old 4wd.

Having done a lot of miles up our hume highway over the last month, I think people who try and overtake someone doing 68mph by doing 70mph (the speed limit) are the ones who shit me the most. Australia seems to have decided sometime in the last 10 years that speeding is antisocial, and hat wearing incontinets in mazdas feel it is their right to block the highway so you can't do so. Ned Kelly be dammed, we are a nation of sheep waiting to be culled.

 

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In a previous life I had a Subaru Loyale.  Some freeway entrance ramps are short and up hill.  No way in hell was that approaching 55 before the merge as that car aged.

I'd put on the flashers, but I'm sure I pissed off some folks.  Couldn't be helped.  My fault for having an underpowered car, but those were dark times indeed.

 

Great car for windsurfing though.  One of my favorites.  (pretty much a shoebox shape.  Very efficient)

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When I'm driving my old landrover fitted with bull bars and rocksliders,  there is a remarkable lack of interest in cutting me up.  However approaching a side road people see an old landrover assume it's going slowly and pull out,  unfortunately I've got a much later engine with nearly twice the horsepower I won't be going slowly.. My brakes work well.. 

Our busiest motorway junctions have cameras on them,  try driving up the hard shoulder,  cutting in, dangerously causing other cars to swerve or another offence and you can get a ticket in the post... 

Recently the highways authorities left the electronic speed limit signs at 30 mph for 17hours after the clearance of an accident. Hundreds of people got done by camera for speeding at the normal Max speed of 70mph..

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18 hours ago, More Cowbell2 said:

I was turning left yesterday to get out of a parking lot, and a nice lady waved me in through her lane which was backed up like 20 cars.  

There are some kind people out there.  

 

And as far as driving, Mexico City, Shanghai / Beijing China, Ho Chi Minh CIty Vietnam, and India in general are places that I let someone else do the driving.  Even Italy is a mess sometimes. 

I always try to be nice and let someone in IF they have their turn signal on and are not trying to wedge in at the last minute trying to jump the line.  I'm a big believer in paying karma forward.

Seoul and Nairobi are two of the THE worst places to drive.  I've only ever taken a cab in Seoul because its utter chaos to drive there.  Nairobi is just an overcrowded shithole with some of the most poorly designed and maintained road systems on the planet.  I have a driver whenever I'm here - I hate driving in this city!

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16 hours ago, A guy in the Chesapeake said:

I come in from Winchester to either Chantilly or Springfield.   I usually take 50 in, but, will jump on 7 to the Greenway if something's happening on 50.  I avoid 66 like the plague, unless I'm heading home directly from Springfield.   I swear that once you get east of 15, or south of 7, that people lose their flippin' common sense. 

Another reason why I will avoid living on the Eastern seaboard like the plague - especially anywhere near the Boston-DC corridor.  I would lose my mind.  I did a several months liaison stint at a 3 letter agency in DC and the only saving grace for my sanity was the hotel was only a few mins away in McClean / Tysons corner.  A lot of the managers and analysts who could work their schedule would come in around 4am and leave by 2pm to miss the rush hour in/out of DC.  In fact one guy was a sailor who live in Naptown and he would get up at 2:30 every morning to commute in.  He said it beat the hell out of sitting in traffic for 2+ hours each way if he worked normal hours.  

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12 hours ago, Marcjsmith said:

two things 

#1. I just wish people would "get it" and when traffic is backed up that the "zipper" method of merging is the way to go.  getting out of the merge lane 100 yards before it ends leaving the rest of lane empty isn't doing anyone any favors when traffic is stop/go

#2.  when traffic is free flowing push the fucking gas pedal and get the fuck up to speed before you merge.  do not merge in front of someone at 45mph when the speed limit is 65.

+1 Brazillion!!!!  The problem is about 99.994% of the global driving population doesn't comprehend these two simple concepts.  Especially #2! :angry:

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4 hours ago, Se7en said:

ie - I have no problem with you jumping into a gap if it's there. But if cars need to let you in, or even brake hard when you jumped into their braking zone, then you are a complete arsehole, and completely deserve it when you get brake checked by the person you pulled behind, or rear ended by the person you pulled in front of.

This ^^.  I'm going to have to defend Willin' a bit here.  As long as there is a car length gap there that someone left, there's no issue taking it - as long as like you said, that no one has to brake hard to keep from hitting you as you take the gap.  It IS the most efficient way to get more cars through the bottleneck.  What fucks me off are the people crawling along in the exit lane a mile back before the exit with a 3 car gap to the car in front.  They are just slowing the traffic down even further.  

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9 hours ago, Se7en said:

 

Having done a lot of miles up our hume highway over the last month, I think people who try and overtake someone doing 68mph by doing 70mph (the speed limit) are the ones who shit me the most. Australia seems to have decided sometime in the last 10 years that speeding is antisocial, and hat wearing incontinets in mazdas feel it is their right to block the highway so you can't do so. Ned Kelly be dammed, we are a nation of sheep waiting to be culled.

 

Speed cameras and demerit points are to blame

The 68mph driver who decides to speed up when being overtaken and the ones that are doing 50mph in the 60 size but always accelerate to 65mph when there is an overtaking lane are the worst

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I had a secretary who told me how she'd cut traffic.  A "legal assistant" is the preferred nomenclature.

She was such a beautiful and wonderful human being, now deceased.  However, her driving was obviously rude and unacceptable.

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The problem is, those asshat drivers just don't care about you or your rules or your feelings. When they dive in and cause everyone behind them to brake check, "who cares assholes I'm faster than you!" When they drive 85mph zig zagging thru commuter traffic doing 65, "so what mofos I'm hot shit and I'm late!"

They just don't care. 

 

I blame MTV 

 

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I'm a passhole. I wait to the last second to merge onto a backed up exit ramp. I'll take your three-second "safety gap" if I need it.  And you know why? Because I'm a sailor, dammit.

And I'm embarrassed for my fellow sailing brothers and sisters posting on this thread that I'm rude. Fuck that. I'm not rude, I'm am excellent driver. I practiced in the driveway. And I practiced on a starting line, at a close crossing, at a congested leeward mark rounding in breeze.

Do you line up like lemmings at that leeward mark, politely waving boats in front of you. Fuck no. You push for the overlap and you take it.  If you don't get the overlap, you take your lumps and get in line. Do you carefully and gingerly maneuver on a start line, delicately leaving several boatlengths between you and everyone else? Fuck no. You throw your (or someone else's) expensive toy within inches of another expensive toy, sheet in at the gun and send it. 

I memorize the construction zones and the exit ramps where the lemmings line up a mile ahead. And blow by them and find at gap at the head of the line, and take it. Because I have my local knowledge. I know the lift is coming and I take it. It's amusing to me and I'm smarter than them because I knew it was gonna happen.

We''re sailors. Drive like one.

 

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8 hours ago, Shootist Jeff said:

.What fucks me off are the people crawling along in the exit lane a mile back before the exit with a 3 car gap to the car in front.  They are just slowing the traffic down even further.  

 

I don't know about that.  You have a cushion and can keep moving versus coming to a complete stop oftentimes.  I leave a pretty big gap in front of me when I've got the work truck and a load of cabinets.  Hard braking increases the chances of something moving and getting dinged up.  It seems traffic behind me doesn't have to come to a complete stop as often as neither do I.  Judging from paying attention to specific vehicles in other lanes makes me think it really doesn't matter time wise, but is easier on brakes and driveline.  Never mind sanity.

 

I could be wrong, but when people don't condense, traffic seems to move at a better pace with less fuckery.

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Auto driving cars will make this flow much better.  

But take all the fun out of it.  

Sailforbeer will be distraught 

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1 hour ago, Hatin' life said:

 

I don't know about that.  You have a cushion and can keep moving versus coming to a complete stop oftentimes.  I leave a pretty big gap in front of me when I've got the work truck and a load of cabinets.  Hard braking increases the chances of something moving and getting dinged up.  It seems traffic behind me doesn't have to come to a complete stop as often as neither do I.  Judging from paying attention to specific vehicles in other lanes makes me think it really doesn't matter time wise, but is easier on brakes and driveline.  Never mind sanity.

 

I could be wrong, but when people don't condense, traffic seems to move at a better pace with less fuckery.

Exactly - that's what happens here in the rain - they bunch up.

And fuck up the flow.

Few people seem to grasp the fact that traffic behaves like a liquid - flow is everything.

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I have cycled in Hanoi, turning left you NEVER stop or risk getting hit from behind. You just start your turn and let traffic flow around you. As long as you are steady and predictable it seems to work. I would never drive there, lanes, lights, shoulders, all are just for decoration. When crossing a busy multi-lane street find the old lady and follow her.

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Our main street was two way back in the days of horse and cart.. It's been one way for many many  years,  it's a huge town of 1,333 people... 

Some road workers on Friday closed a side road one end,  and made the main street 2 way... 

Gridlock ensued as nothing could pass each other especially when two buses arrived in opposite directions. 

Then an ambulance with blue lights and horns going arrived. Drivers were refusing to drive up on pavements to let the ambulance through till the police threatened them with arrest for obstruction.. 

The police took the no entry covers off, told the road workers to go away and it still took over an hour to clear the road... 

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2 hours ago, No Bargers said:

Cell phones should not work if you're in a moving car.

 

Why?

Obviously some people can't do both, But a lot of us can.  Don't change the rules based on the lowest common denominator.

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4 hours ago, Hatin' life said:

 

Why?

Obviously some people can't do both, But a lot of us can.  Don't change the rules based on the lowest common denominator.

My wife's car gets all grumpy with her using maps on her phone... and she is in the passenger seat.  Annoying nanny tech is frustrating at times.

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13 hours ago, sailforbeer said:

I'm a passhole. I wait to the last second to merge onto a backed up exit ramp. I'll take your three-second "safety gap" if I need it.  And you know why? Because I'm a sailor, dammit.

And I'm embarrassed for my fellow sailing brothers and sisters posting on this thread that I'm rude. Fuck that. I'm not rude, I'm am excellent driver. I practiced in the driveway. And I practiced on a starting line, at a close crossing, at a congested leeward mark rounding in breeze.

Do you line up like lemmings at that leeward mark, politely waving boats in front of you. Fuck no. You push for the overlap and you take it.  If you don't get the overlap, you take your lumps and get in line. Do you carefully and gingerly maneuver on a start line, delicately leaving several boatlengths between you and everyone else? Fuck no. You throw your (or someone else's) expensive toy within inches of another expensive toy, sheet in at the gun and send it. 

I memorize the construction zones and the exit ramps where the lemmings line up a mile ahead. And blow by them and find at gap at the head of the line, and take it. Because I have my local knowledge. I know the lift is coming and I take it. It's amusing to me and I'm smarter than them because I knew it was gonna happen.

We''re sailors. Drive like one.

 

Hey Raymond, Wapner's on in 15 minutes.

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5 hours ago, Hatin' life said:

Obviously some people can't do both, But a lot of us can.

No you can't.

If you're yapping on the phone then you aren't paying proper attention to your driving.

Morons on their phones are now a deadlier hazard than drunks.

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19 minutes ago, SloopJonB said:

No you can't.

If you're yapping on the phone then you aren't paying proper attention to your driving.

Morons on their phones are now a deadlier hazard than drunks.

 

I'm sorry, but you're incorrect.  I totally can.  I can talk to other people in the car, on the phone, even out the window.

I can watch movies.  Drink a beverage. Eat food.  Read signs.  Look for landmarks.  Admire/hate architecture.  Look at clouds.  Read signage in vehicles.  Listen to music.  A whole bunch of things can be accomplished while doing the mindless task of running three peddles, a stick, a handful of gauges and a wheel.  I've even fucked while driving, as I'm sure the vast majority of men here have.

It's all about timing and knowing your limitations.

Something I really hate about modern vehicles?  The dash lights don't dim to zero.  When the weather is fucked and it's 0/0, I don't give a shit about what's on the dash and I don't have time for it.

Time and place for everything.  Prioritize and execute. Ever see a pilot pullover to read a map, or talk to atc?

 

I would agree that most people shouldn't drive.  They don't have the capacity, mental or physical, for such an undertaking.  Adjusting the temperature is potentiality deadly for them.

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On 9/5/2019 at 6:07 PM, Keith said:

This was based on driving in Vancouver

 

If you live in California - there is a city called Irvine - this is Irvine.  Most people are law abiding - then this happens.

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19 hours ago, Hatin' life said:

 

I'm sorry, but you're incorrect.  I totally can.  ...   ...

Time and place for everything.  Prioritize and execute. Ever see a pilot pullover to read a map, or talk to atc?

...    ...

Time and place for everything, agreed. The time to monkey around with a phone is while you're not driving. Also not while you're eating dinner with your family, one of my pet peeves that you may not be guilty of, but I just wanted to mention.

Ever see a pilot flying a plane where swerving a few inches would put him under the wheels of a big-ass truck? Or decide to read a map, talk to ATC, etc etc, during say a take-off?

Time and place for everything.

- DSK

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On 9/7/2019 at 5:45 PM, sailforbeer said:

I'm a passhole. I wait to the last second to merge onto a backed up exit ramp. I'll take your three-second "safety gap" if I need it.  And you know why? Because I'm a sailor, dammit.

And I'm embarrassed for my fellow sailing brothers and sisters posting on this thread that I'm rude. Fuck that. I'm not rude, I'm am excellent driver. I practiced in the driveway. And I practiced on a starting line, at a close crossing, at a congested leeward mark rounding in breeze.

Do you line up like lemmings at that leeward mark, politely waving boats in front of you. Fuck no. You push for the overlap and you take it.  If you don't get the overlap, you take your lumps and get in line. Do you carefully and gingerly maneuver on a start line, delicately leaving several boatlengths between you and everyone else? Fuck no. You throw your (or someone else's) expensive toy within inches of another expensive toy, sheet in at the gun and send it. 

I memorize the construction zones and the exit ramps where the lemmings line up a mile ahead. And blow by them and find at gap at the head of the line, and take it. Because I have my local knowledge. I know the lift is coming and I take it. It's amusing to me and I'm smarter than them because I knew it was gonna happen.

We''re sailors. Drive like one.

 

Golf clap.  Love it!

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I have three driving rants.

1.  Slow drivers. if you can't travel at 100Kph on a dry straight bit of road then either you or the car is not safe to be on the road, and FFS DO NOT speed up when there is a spot where I can pass you, and FFS, just pull over and let the line of people pass you you inconsiderate fuck-wit.

2. We spend a lot of society's resources on making cars and roads safer but we (apart from handing out fines for people doing 5Kph over the limit) do nothing about driver education.  A HUGE part of road accidents are plain driver incompetence but when there are accidents we lower the speed limit, straiten out a curve a bit and bring in tighter regulations about car safety, We never say, "Hey, lets retest some drivers because most seem rather incompetent."  Not addressing the major part of the problem is just plain dumb.

3.  Nissan Tiida's.  I don't know what the fuck is wrong with those things but every time you come up behind one (because they ALWAYS go so fucken slow) you just know they will do something dumb.  Round them up and set fire to the fucken things, would make the world a much better place.

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I would say the vast majority of traffic accidents are caused by slow drivers.  Or the interaction of fast drivers with slow drivers.  There is a major interstate (motorway for you commonwealthers) between Dubai to abu dhabi and I drive it everyday for work.  Its 4 lane the whole way (each way)  and sometimes 5.  Speed limit is 140K/hr (87mph).  There is a major accident almost everyday.  And THE VAST majority of the time is some Indian or paksistani fuckknuckle driving along in the fast lane at <100 kph or they pull out at the last second in front of a car doing almost twice their speed.  Cunts!

I struggled for the longest time why it seemed to be a particular culture of people that are involved in the majority of the accidents.  At first I thought I was just being racist and stereotyping.  But I compared notes with both my expat and local friends and they all said the same thing. 

I couldn't figure it out until I was transitioning jobs a couple of years ago and was home for a couple of weeks.  There is a driving school nearby and all day long there would be this procession of training school cars nose to tail crawling along at snail's pace with adult indian/paki/whatever subcontinent student drivers behind the wheel with similar ethnicity instructors.  And then it occured to me!  I had an epiphany.  The vast majority of us grew up around driving as kids.  We rode along in the car with mom and dad since we were born, we learned to drive as teenagers and have been driving our whole lives.  Its 2nd nature, we don't even really think about it.  But when you come from a place where very few people drive because of the abject poverty and they are learning for the first time as adults in their late 20s and 30s and have no ingrained culture of the car or anything or any awareness of the road, etc - it would be like trying to teach a toddler to drive.  Combine that with a culture here that if they so much as scratch the car they are hired to drive (taxi, delivery truck, whatever) it comes out of their miniscule paycheck and/or they get deported.  So they are shitty drivers who are scared shitless, so they drive at a snail's pace thinking it's safer than going at the traffic pace.  They are truly terrible drivers.  I've been in taxi cabs where I've almost gotten seasick because they literally cannot hold a speed.  Their right foot on the accel pedal is moving constantly.  

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9 hours ago, Shootist Jeff said:

I would say the vast majority of traffic accidents are caused by slow drivers.  Or the interaction of fast drivers with slow drivers. 

It's a recognized thing - it's called Speed Differential - and it is the cause of a huge proportion of accidents.

 

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Not disagreeing with the speed differential.

But would it be such an inconvenience to move over into the fast lane if there is room to let a merging car onto the freeway with a 50ft long uphill entry ramp?

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1 hour ago, Windward said:

But would it be such an inconvenience to move over into the fast lane if there is room to let a merging car onto the freeway with a 50ft long uphill entry ramp?

no more of an inconvenience than pushing the right pedal harder to get up to a speed that is closer to what traffic is actually moving at.

Or checking your mirrors before changing lanes,

Realizing that just because you put your turn signal on(if you use it at all) that it doesn't give you permission to come over it signals that you want to come over when its safe.

or how about putting down whatever else you doing and just drive the fucking car.

 

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30 minutes ago, Marcjsmith said:

no more of an inconvenience than pushing the right pedal harder to get up to a speed that is closer to what traffic is actually moving at.

Or checking your mirrors before changing lanes,

Realizing that just because you put your turn signal on(if you use it at all) that it doesn't give you permission to come over it signals that you want to come over when its safe.

or how about putting down whatever else you doing and just drive the fucking car.

 

*sigh...   Ok, I give up.

50 ft and uphill with no merge lane = 90% of all cars on the road mathematically cannot achieve 65 in the space provided.

So yes... you are right.  Push the pedal harder is the answer.

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1 hour ago, Marcjsmith said:

no more of an inconvenience than pushing the right pedal harder to get up to a speed that is closer to what traffic is actually moving at.

Or checking your mirrors before changing lanes,

Realizing that just because you put your turn signal on(if you use it at all) that it doesn't give you permission to come over it signals that you want to come over when its safe.

or how about putting down whatever else you doing and just drive the fucking car.

 

Too many time, the drivers on the road behave in one or the other of 2 options.  

- Treat your attempt to merge as an affront to their existence and speed up to close a reasonable gap.  If you are in front of them, it's just not acceptable.  

- Panic at the sight of an accelerating car in the merge lane and slam on the brakes, closing the gap behind them that you could have seamlessly merged into and creating carnage.   

Just maintain your speed and be predictable.   I'll merge ahead of you or behind you as the gaps in the traffic dictate.  If there is a good gap behind you, then accept that i will go behind you and don't try to be polite.  If there is a gap in front of you, I drive a quick car that will get into it easily.  Don't accelerate to close it off and them panic brake to keep from running into the car ahead.  

Of course, there is the mindless wimps who either stop at the beginning of the access ramp and waits until they can pull out at 12.25 mph or goes to the end of the ramp and waits until there are no cars in sight on the main road before pulling out.  

 

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5 hours ago, Windward said:

Not disagreeing with the speed differential.

But would it be such an inconvenience to move over into the fast lane if there is room to let a merging car onto the freeway with a 50ft long uphill entry ramp?

That's exactly what I routinely do. Keep the traffic flowing, minimise stress on the merging driver.

No skin off of my nose to change lanes long enough to allow the merging driver a clear run.

FKT

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3 hours ago, Windward said:

*sigh...   Ok, I give up.

50 ft and uphill with no merge lane = 90% of all cars on the road mathematically cannot achieve 65 in the space provided.

So yes... you are right.  Push the pedal harder is the answer.

Ww,  yes there are certainly exceptions as you mention.   Yes a Prius or some other anemicaly powered car or  truck may not be able to get up to full speed.  But there are so many instances where ther is a long enough merge lane to get a Prius up to 80 or a full loaded 26’ unhual for that matter,  but the drivers don’t even care to try and they just come over expecting to part the Red Sea like Moses 

and yes there will always be the “me first” pricks who won’t let you merge.  

 

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3 hours ago, Innocent Bystander said:

Just maintain your speed and be predictable.   I'll merge ahead of you or behind you as the gaps in the traffic dictate.  If there is a good gap behind you, then accept that i will go behind you and don't try to be polite.  If there is a gap in front of you, I drive a quick car that will get into it easily.  Don't accelerate to close it off and them panic brake to keep from running into the car ahead.   

Of course, there is the mindless wimps who either stop at the beginning of the access ramp and waits until they can pull out at 12.25 mph or goes to the end of the ramp and waits until there are no cars in sight on the main road before pulling out.  

 

Even this tactic will not work in some locales. I have a 27' Class C RV. When I drive north from San Diego heading for the forests it is chaos driving until I get over the Grapevine pass. I can garan-fukin-tee that I will have at least two incidents where a "merging" car will pace me down the full ramp length & then expect me to create space for them at the end of the lane. Honking at them has no effect. I'm not fast enuff to travel in the 2nd lane (this is CA, slow lane is 60+). Once had a giant, fully tricked out pickem up pace me for a full mile, then force his way over & then brake check me. If I had not had one of the kids riding with me I would have stayed of the brake & let him learn that 15,000 lbs will push 6,000 lbs quite easily.

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On 9/5/2019 at 4:52 PM, SloopJonB said:

Vancouver has the most incompetent drivers I have seen anywhere - and that's a lot of places.

They can't even drive in the rain FFS. An inch of snow paralyzes the city and causes dozens of accidents.

U-turns in the middle of the block on major streets? No problem.

Wait for 5 minutes blocking traffic for a parked car to load up, check their phone and then leave? No problem.

Drive straight across the middle of a roundabout? No problem.

Drive the wrong way round a roundabout? No problem.

They don't use their horns though - I'll give them that.

I have enough road rage to suffice for the whole fuckin' city.

 

I worked with a guy who had once done some database consulting for ICBC. (The provincial government in BC is the mandatory auto insurance 'agency' for PL and PD)

He had this to say:

Over 95% (don't remember exact number but it's close) of ICBC insurance payouts for the entire province are made on behalf of an identifiable group (which, either by policy or law, cannot be made public) having the following characteristics:

a) are males under the age of 30 (understandable)

b) live in the greater Vancouver area / lower mainland  (ok.... )

c) have Asian last names

 

 

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11 hours ago, Marcjsmith said:

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yeah I know it a photo shop  but it seemed appropriate to the thread

 

 

Not a Photoshop  (and maybe off topic) but funny, real-world irony that people have to have it 'splained....

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2 hours ago, oldgoatroper said:

I worked with a guy who had once done some database consulting for ICBC. (The provincial government in BC is the mandatory auto insurance 'agency' for PL and PD)

He had this to say:

Over 95% (don't remember exact number but it's close) of ICBC insurance payouts for the entire province are made on behalf of an identifiable group (which, either by policy or law, cannot be made public) having the following characteristics:

a) are males under the age of 30 (understandable)

b) live in the greater Vancouver area / lower mainland  (ok.... )

c) have Asian last names

I'm afraid that is bullshit.

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1 hour ago, oldgoatroper said:

Well, it was 25 years ago... but maybe you could enlighten me on why that is BS...

Well, you could start by looking at accident scenes as you drive by.

Then you could look at the population numbers - young Asian males make up a pretty small proportion of the B.C. driver demographic. They would all have to be totalling several cars a year to even approach your friends cousins numbers.

As an aside, one of the biggest claim payout categories for ICBC is windshields in Northern B.C. Some people up there have several per year.

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